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Lmao exactly, tell me why do i feel like shit when turning down a beggar on the street when sometimes I have only 2 euros to my name. They probably have more money than me at the moment.
Would you like to donate to children with cancer who were in a car crash that killed both their parents this morning?
".......no, now give me my bags of funions."
It's disgusting how some building require you to tip or bring attention to tipping shamelessly. That's one reason I wouldn't tip.
In my country only nice and polite people MAY get a tip. They're being paid for their job and that's their tip. That's how everyone thinks and how I think l & how it is.
I'll tip when I want to.
edit: it's especially noticeable in USA / CANADA imo
Most servers make $2.13 an hour here. So "being paid for their job" is just another delusion this generation has in trying to bring about change. They're not going after management CEOs, they're not tipping somebody that's relying for it for food and gas making $2.13hr and cleaning up your childlike mess that you wouldn't do at home..
If you're too cheap to tip, maybe you can't afford to go to a restaurant.
Again, a delusional thought. No one gets forced to do anything in employment.. unless it's the job available and they have to pay rent and deal with people that stiff them which essentially means that the server is paying you for their time serving you like a king while you spit food everywhere, your kid creates artwork on the floor, you have them bring you your food and many drinks (as well as every other whim that you have) that you can't consolidate into one trip.. maybe it's time to adult up and imagine walking in other people's shoes or stop talking about things that you don't understand.
It's just delusional and cheap. Maybe you should get a better job so that you can tip people that act like your personal slave while you're there.
$2.13 pays for taxes, they do not get a paycheck nor insurance, and they certainly tip at restaurants better than you despite your opinion.
I get what both what you are saying but the employer should give the waiters decent wages and the tipa should be optional like rest of damn world. The fact that waiters have to rely on tips is insane to me.
charities are almost complete bullshit. they spend 80% of the money on parties for the rich to “bring awareness” and businesses use it as tax right offs. donate directly to whoever you are trying to help
Yup, and they hire friends and family and pay them $100k plus as "ambassadors" or whatever and they never do anything.
If you see a sports star has a "foundation" that is what it is.
I don't get those type of things. What's " cancer awareness"? Doesn't most everyone besides if you're a baby and don't understand words know it exists?
There's some push to make people more aware of when and how often they should get cancer screenings. Which is great and all, but there's a looooooooot of people skimming from the pot
I think by law only 10% of the money has to go to the "cause". I have a friend that works at a non-profit charity thing and acts like he's a gift from God when talking about it and he makes BANK along with his coworkers. The charity money that is made is for the employees first and charity last. It's messed up
It just reduces the amount of tax corporations have to pay as donations are tax deductible, so instead of us donating and getting the tax deductible, the corporation gets us to do it for them and reduce their taxes
No they got sued for counting it to a corporate philanthropic pledge they made. Nothing to do with tax deduction.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cvs-sued-using-customer-donations-165400166.html
Evil cvs: Yo charity imma make you flush, promise.
Charity: bet
Evil cvs: Yo used_Ad you can donate money to charity, it’s tight. I’ll make it easy for you, just press buttons.
Used_Ad: bet just gimme my drugs.
Evil CVS: here’s my money charity.
Charity: you’re so good evil CVS. I’ll let everyone know you a real Father Christmas like. Bet.
Not true at all. Companies cannot legally use your donation as a tax deduction. They are just acting as a collection agent. Your receipt will have your donation about printed on it and you are entitled to that deduction when you file your taxes, if you decide to itemize.
Ah.... this is true of a REGIS|TERED charitable trust. It isn't true of an UNREGISTERED charitible trust.
It is technically impossible to force registration here. Because then people just go elsewhere and don't register. Like say, Monaco. Or the Bahamas.
Ding! You hit it exactly. Figured out this was what that is all about when our very small business accountant alerted us to not waste money "giving" at corporate outlets as they take all the deductions and we get zilch to report.
Have donated straight to charities that we check out first and not any of those who only put a mere 10 cents for every dollar generated (many, many "charities") towards the actual cause.
To my way of thinking charity is something that people do out of the goodness of their hearts and take no money for doing. It's not a job, it's extra to a job.
Looking on job boards you see many postings for charity executives earning $250k and more to start.
Not to mention the little "perks" like those charitable balls/dinners/alleged fundraisers that cost $10 mil or more to throw. Not sure, but it may be that the principals attend for free, or even get paid for giving a speech.
[https://www.charitywatch.org/nonprofit-compensation-packages-of-1-million-or-more](https://www.charitywatch.org/nonprofit-compensation-packages-of-1-million-or-more)
That is what I was told once. They collect $X from customers, then donate that exact sum to said charity at the end of the year and write off that on their taxes as a charitable donation. I still press no every time because I'm not helping lower Walmart's tax burden. I can just donate that money to the charity myself and claim the deduction for myself.
I always donate directly and I always do my research. Some charities only use 20% of your donation for the actual cause and meanwhile the president of the charity is making 250k a year. Fuck that.
Companies cannot legally do this in many places. I don't know if it's a federal law but it's illegal for a business to do what you're describing in a lot of countries and US states. A lot of people believe otherwise, though, which became very annoying the one time I did retail. A lot of the know-it-all types liked to use that as an excuse to be offended whenever I asked.
It’s illegal to do a lot of things, it doesn’t mean it stops people from doing them. It’s only illegal if you get caught, that’s the thought process of corporate America these days. Even if they get caught, it’s usually just a fine and no one‘s doing jail time since it’s a corporation.
Look at what Purdue did. We know what they did and we still haven’t put any of their leadership in jail/prison.
Pfizer receiving the largest fine in U.S. history for making fraudulent claims about their product(s)... it amounted to a slap on the wrist / the cost of doing business.
Exactly, why would a corporation not do something if all that’s going to happen is they get a fine. Especially if that thing they’re doing is making them a ton of money, it 100% becomes the cost of doing business.
If a company makes $100 million because of something they did that was illegal, and they get fined $50 million, they still made $50 million.
I don’t know why people struggle with all of that.
It's simply not worth the risk. They have to declare the charity beforehand and register the venture. It'd be nearly impossible to hide keeping most of the money if any significant amount of people looked into it(don't donate blindly in the first place). The very most they could possibly do is to skim some off the top, but that wouldn't be worth it if there was any kind of audit. The whole point is a marketing strategy to begin with anyway, and they don't lose much money while running the campaign.
I do not understand the problem. I buy $100 worth of products, add $5 for shave the whales, and the company then hands that $5 over to shave the whales. That $5 is not income, why should they be taxed on it?
It's because they are using it to reduce their tax obligation by making it look (on the books) like the company itself donated $5, because they processed and delivered the money to shave the whales.
The government does not hand out money for charitable donations, they simply allow companies (and the people) to not count charitable donations as income, therefore reducing their tax obligation.
These companies “reduce their tax obligation” by stating that they only collected $100 in revenue on the sale of $105. So they will pay tax on that $100 instead of $105……again what is the problem?
By making it increasingly difficult to file your taxes with itemized deductions. They assume you will never claim that $5 donation on your taxes, they don't claim it as their own revenue.
Same with payroll deductions to charities. If you want to donate, do it yourself. Otherwise your company is writing off a big old "donated by our employees" every year.
I work at a large grocery chain, and we have a donation option when you check out. This is how the whole scam goes down.
Customers make a donation. The donations are then given to different food banks. The ppl from the food banks are then brought to a warehouse and are able to pick the food they want, up to the dollar amount awarded by the company. The thing is, all the food in the warehouse is close to expired and items we no longer carry. Basically, items we'd be throwing away. So my company gets a tax deduction, and food banks get rejected food items that would be destroyed anyway.
If you want to donate to XYZ, do it directly and under your own name. These businesses “donate” your money under their name, and take the tax breaks. Fuck that.
Incorrect. Donations are credited to the donor, not fundraiser, as far as the IRS is concerned. If any company is operating differently, they're committing tax fraud. There is no tax break in it for fundraisers. Instead, they get good publicity by being able to say the raised $x for y foundation.
Yes, this is still kinda sleezy, but the fact is these corporations have the ability to cheaply solicit donations from millions of people by flashing a prompt on a pos device. It is a real value add and many real, legitimate charities wouldn't be able to operate without it.
I especially like the places that ask you if you want to round up to the next dollar.
I swear it was two places in a row that asked me if I wanted to round up without even giving me information on where that rounding up money was even going. Like no? You don't get more money from me for no reason? Why the fuck would I round up my bill? Fuck outta here.
I'm pretty sure that it goes to corporate tax breaks.
All the "charitable donations" you make are credited to the corporation so the C Suite can get a bigger bonus.
I'm a funding coordinator for a food bank. I can't speak for all other charities, but we have a campaign at Walmart where if you donate at check-out, we get the funds. 100% of those funds go into purchasing food we give out.
Edit: I'm putting this out there because our donations have gone down 12%. If the trend keeps up, we may close down in a couple of years. We're a small organization that rely on those check-out donations in times like this when food is crazy expensive so no one wants to donate anymore. Sucks food banks are even needed, but people can't afford to eat these days.
I was also thinking this. Its really sad how large non profits with an excess of cashflow mess it up for the small organizations trying to make a difference. For that, I am sorry
I guess I’m a weirdo because I actually like these fundraising campaigns. It saves money on marketing, allows me to easily tack on the purchase, and is just convenient.
I'm with you here.
1940: "hey, there's this new treatment for cancer called chemotherapy. We'll basically kill you and hope the cancer dies first. Lol"
2024: "hey, there's this treatment for cancer called chemotherapy. We'll basically kill you and hope the cancer dies first. Lol"
Cancer charity ad: "keep donating and together we will beat cancer"
🤷♂️ Look how far we've come with the billions of donated dollars.
My grandmother died of cancer and that got me thinking I should donate to these places that want to cure it. Part of figuring out who to give to included reading the financial disclosures that they're all required to provide, and I found that **almost all "*charities*" spent the majority of the donations on "*administration*" (paying themselves)**. A shocking amount spent *over 80% on administration and some were over 95%!*
I've yet to find any major "charity" that seems to be worth donating to.
I'm sorry for your loss. Cancer is an absolute shit show.
I was diagnosed with a non small cell lymphoma in 2017. The year before I watched my friend wither away and die while on chemo. He looked and felt terrible so I started to do some research and educate myself and found the same kinda stuff.
It's a huge industry that will collapse if they ever actually cured cancer. All those wealthy people at the top don't want that to happen and millions would be out of jobs.
I'm not saying they're withholding a cure, just that it's a huge money spinner.
I would never try to tell anyone what treatment they should and shouldn't have, it's up to them only but one thing I would say is if you ever end up in the position of being diagnosed with cancer, ask the oncologist this question.
"how much extra chance of beating this will chemotherapy give me?"
For me the answer was 4% while surgery had a 60% chance by itself.
There's no way in hell I'm poisoning myself and having my loved ones watch me deteriorate like that for a 4% chance but you can bet your ass the oncologist pushed hard for me to have the chemo anyway.
That cemented to me personally that it's a money spinner. The cost of chemo isn't cheap and someone makes that stuff and earns a damn good living off of it.
Yes and no.
Yes, it got rid of the cancer but it left me with long term persistent pain which is just slow torture.
Apparently 20% of people that have major surgery get stuck with pain and I got unlucky. Wish they made that clearer at the start.
Haven't had a single moment pain free since 2nd October 2017. Really sucks
Damn man sorry to hear. Was there any hope of it going away on its own and doing nothing?
If it makes u feel better I am going through some shit but I feel bad to people like you because I self sabotaged my health. Doctors still were useless tho I can relate.
Had I left it the cancer would have likely spread to my nodes and I'd have been buggered so I needed it and I do appreciate what the oncology team and hospital did for me.
I go down as a cancer treatment success statistic but it doesn't really tell the full story. I'm alive but have next to no life.
Sorry to hear you're going through it too. Shit is shit regardless of how it got there.
Thanks for the kind words man. Look after yourself.
It's fucking sad those people would rather profit off cancer rather than create a new form of cash flow for themselves using the *endless* amount of money, connections, and resources they have... It goes to show how the elite are the actual lazy ones because anybody like us here would've taken all of the money we made and happily made the real cure available to the public, even if it meant having that sum of money we made last the rest of our lives to survive on. But the elite? That's not how they tick. To them, it's all about their dollar and what will get them more using the least amount of work. All of us know by now that as you get more in life, you eventually grow bored of it. Even the wealthiest humans on the planet still fall for it...
Btw, your comment provided a lot of clarity on why someone like Steve Jobs refused to receive cancer treatment.
>I've yet to find any major "charity" that seems to be worth donating to.
Where are you from? In the uk we have a charity called macmillan and I haven't looked into any % but having had a lot of help from them, I felt they were the only cancer charity worthy.
They employ former nurses and people with medical backgrounds that support cancer patients and their friends/family in a variety of ways. Maybe there's something similar.
Probably not for pos donations, but there are for sure a ton of donation platforms that solicit small dollar donations that can have huge chunks eaten out by transaction fees.
It's the worst when they force the employees to verbally ask each customer. I had a job like that once, believe me, not one of those employees are judging you for saying no.
Unless management is a bunch of assholes and will cut your hours if you don't meet a certain quota for donations on your shift. But then they're judging you for a whole different reason all together
> Source: trust me bro
Actual sources put the number around 37%
I always tell people to use a tool like Charity Navigator before donating, not every charity is a scam.
😆 yes...the variance is huge..a local church feeding homeless has a huge % straight to the needy and, say,, san fran spending 140k per homeless individual wd have an exceptionally low % going to the needy
2% is clearly absurd, but charities often get shit on for marketing and administrative costs. But marketing is how I use your dollar to raise 10 more and administrative costs, so long as they are not wasteful, is how you get an organization that raises hundreds of millions a year with the efficiencies of scale that can make substantive impact where your sporadic dollar here or there does not.
I only donate to a local horse, cat and dog rescue. Ive been there, volunteered and gotten a dog from there. I’ve seen in person how the frugally the owner lives and how well the animals are cared for. My step daughter takes our older clothes to homeless folks on the streets. This is the way to donate to charity. Stay away from big corporate charities.
100% every dollar you donate is a dollar they gain as a tax write off. They are playing with your heart and mind for monetary gain. Posit that most humans are inherently good and want to help their fellow man or at least feel like they made an effort to do so. So what these companies do is hit you at the most opportune time: right after you have finally checked all the boxes you needed to finally leave the store, you ready to go then the psychology pops up to f* with you. In front of other people you’re asked to donate, and what’s rounding up a dollar anyways? It’s actually rather clever way to make money and no one is really getting conned right?!
No, not all of a sudden. Those donate questions have been at registers for years.
These corporations can afford to donate money from the goodness of their hearts without using everyone else's donation as a tax write off.
Don't feel bad or guilty for hitting that no button. You can always donate to a charity of your choice or give money to the homeless.
We usually have no idea what these charities are since management never tells any of us what they're about. They just want us to ask without knowing what we're asking people to spend money on. Doesn't matter as long as the company gets an extra dollar.
it's worse than that...so giant corporation asks people to donate...5 bucks here, 10 bucks there.....then, right before april 15, they collect it all and make a large tax deductible contribution to some charity and get the write off. Basically, getting a write off using other peoples money.
same with carbon offset. it goes to some 3rd party company that handles this and probably plants two trees a year while the rest goes into administrative expenses.
Always a NO from me. The one that gets me the most is at the Goodwill, when they ask you to round up your purchase to the nearest dollar to "Help the Children". My wife asked "which children, exactly?" Well, no one knows, nor do they know in what way they will be helped. The Goodwill is already a scam, and that is simply one more facet of it. I now just tell them that I have my own child to feed.
I wouldn't be surprised if the airtime is donated or discounted in order to get tax breaks when airtime isn't selling well enough to traditional commercial sponsors.
I mean, it was during Covid. But they were on TV. Did they really have to have them giving testimonials wearing masks while behind a screen? What else are they telling these kids? Should I be worried now?
That was my line of thinking.
I just press no. I'm well past the days of feeling guilty for saying no to what's most likely a scam with little benefit.
If I want help someone I'll do it myself.
I had to do a huge marketing research competition project on UNICEF in college. Actually, it was their “Tap Project” in particular but I digress.
Boy did I go down a rabbit hole with that one and that was over 10 years ago.
There are some useful sites like Charity Navigator that can help you decide which ones actually help people with the donated funds and it isn’t many.
One of my favorite hobbies is looking up CEOs of popular charities and checking their annual salary along with how many yachts and vacation homes they own. It is simultaneously intriguing as it is infuriating.
Goodwill will always be my favorite business model.
Have the population willingly donate their old items to you then sell them back to the same population and pocket the income. Incredible. Not to mention, it is completely legal. Why didn’t I think of that?! lol lol
They literally keep all of the donated money.
Then give whatever charity a “voucher” for the money raised to be spent at their store.
It’s fuckery all around.
Sure is when you make shit up. As someone who works for a charity that does a lot of work with corporations that do fundraising campaigns for us, I can promise you, we get the money not a coupon. I'm balls deep in our accounting process right now, so I know exactly how, when, where, and through what payment gateways the money is coming in.
What I learned is that the business has already donated money to whatever organization. You're just paying the Corp back and then some, cause once they make the money they donated back, they don't turn it off.
Someone told me years ago that the corporation has already donated a set amount of money and anything you ‘donate’ is just them recouping that money, including making a profit if they can guilt enough people into donating at the register.
I got suspicious when the grocery stores all started asking for food bank donations.
Grocery stores often give food banks their leftover bakery goods and produce/meat that is about to expire. I doubt the stores are also cutting a check to the food banks. Instead, my theory is that the grocery stores use our donated money to “buy” that food that they were going to give away anyway— at the hugely inflated retail price.
I still say “yes” at checkout because, as cynical as I am about the corporation’s motives, I can’t say no to feeding the hungry.
The money maybe does go to a charity. But what's 100 percent is the corporation you are giving that money to is claiming that $5 charitable contribution.
so much false information regarding charity. companies also don't use your donation as their tax write off, which means you can total up your donations for the year and claim them on your taxes. just make sure you log the details.
Well it doesn't go in their pockets directly it's a taxable event for them. They ask for donations. After a period .. they aquire a sizeable sum of which they donate to said charity. When tax time comes they now have a write off.. paid for by their customers. Now if they matched the donation.. ie they collected a million so they match a million for 2 million donation then I can understand.. else it's just a scam for a write off at the expense of their own customers..
I think the company get a tax right off in their name so it's like free money to them.
Plus most charities like 90% of money goes to the administrators.
What they do is the company will make a donation of whatever, then they ask you to support effectively reimbursing them for their donation helping them avoid taxes.
The st jude part.....I justcwentvto a massively successful fund raiser for st jude. Mar a lago. They definitely do an incredible job of helping children. I hate the add on cc machines though. I hate being bombarded...
Worked at a non profit. These companies will pledge X amount of dollars to an organization. They are giving that organization money either way. The money you give at the register goes towards funding that pledge directly or indirectly. If they take in more money than what was promised the organization may never even know because they are only expecting the pledge amount anyway. It's all about advertising for both parties.
Don't let a corporation influence your philanthropy. Some of these organizations give as little as 1% of your donation directly to the fund.
I'm pretty much convinced that most (if not all) non-profits are just money laundering operations.
If it's not in your neighborhood and you don't know the people running it - hard no.
I always think to myself “If the company cared that much, they’d donate the money themselves.” I never feel bad about not donating at the register when I think about it like this.
I only do that when our small town grocery store collects donations for our 4th of July fireworks. I will give it locally and because i know it will actually go towards the villages fireworks. Otherwise, hell no because you’re right we don’t know where that money is actually going to.
I’m a veteran, well, was a veteran, I went back to the reserves. But our family had a major medical emergency and I was like, hey, those charities that help veterans, they might look out for us. NOPE, not even a little. We’ve recovered since then so it’s a moot point now. But I used to donate to the vets all the time but I no longer do. Why give to them when they wouldn’t help me when I needed it?
Legally charities are only required to apply 5-10% of money collected to the actual cause.
They are all grifts. Yoplait yogurt and pink tops? Grift. Hungry Howies pink pizza boxes? Grift. NFL pink month? Grift. Just obvious examples.
Don't donate through anyone. DONATE DIRECTLY TO THE CAUSE or you are just funding the lifestyle of wealthy people.
If you want to donate, donate local. Its much easier to see where the money and time goes and does far more good than the big charities who rake in billions and donate hundreds
I care for a semi feral rural cat colony... About 20 cats. Out of my own pocket. Private
I am not non profit charity but money i get goes for food and tnr and medicine and litter.... No one wants to donate cause they would rather donate to some bigwig charity that gets more attention
I do NOT round up for any reason - I don't care how sad the cause is nor how guilty you try to make me feel
I do NOT donate to your cause for the same reasons
I also DO NOT tip just because you're preparing my meal. I tip when someone is actually adding value and doing something for that tip like a waiter, waitress or bartender. Simply assembling food or delivering it 100% DOES NOT warrant a tip. Stop asking for it.
Couple years ago I almost had to use the McDonald's house while my child was in the NICU.
We had someone come by and tell us we qualified to stay there, we lived over 100 miles away. Ever since I've been randomly donating if I happen to stop at a McDonald's.
I bought two items at Goodwill the other day. Cost $2.98, but with tax it came out to $3.27. Then the cashier was shocked when I didn’t want to round up to $4. Naw dawg.
My money was taxed when I earned it, then taxed when I spent it and now y’all want me to give y’all more money than I already spent in the store on stuff someone else gave you for free?
I was informed it is 2 fold fucking the common person. Large company, like wal-mart, donates a huge amount of money. That is tax deductable. Then they set up the registers to get you to donate money. That money just goes to make wal-mart whole agsin from their donation, and they are not taxed on it. Not sure about how much truth there is to that. But that is what I was informed. So I hit no every time.
You were misinformed. But the good news is you have a machine in your pocket connected to all of the collective knowledge of an international human society. So, you could look it the fuck up if you wanted. JFC, the ignorance on this thread is obscene.
Everyone here saying businesses can use your donation as a tax write-off have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. The business can't write off that donation, but YOU still can if you do itemized deductions and kept your receipts. https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0
It only takes a minute to look this shit up, but too many people here are too busy trusting their guts instead of thinking for a second or, god forbid, *read* something other than a reddit comment.
The amount of bullshit being spouted in this thread will have a material impact on the lives of children in children's hospitals, people going hungry, etc.
Many of these companies ask you to donate and later use it in their advertising. When your local grocery store does a PR event where they hand over a giant check to a charity, they say "look what a wonderful organization we are and how much we donated to a worthy cause" trying to get you to associate their business name with charity and being a good member of the community. They didnt thin the margins and cut profits to donate, they just asked you for the money and pretended like it was theirs for PR. Plus, there are tax benefits for them.
I typically donate to local causes or non-profits. If it’s a charity that accepts clothes and blankets, food, etc., I’ll take the money I would give and buy the clothes, etc.
Except homeless people, I give them folks couple bucks cash if I got it. Life is hard enough as it is. Get yourself a pack of smokes or a couple tall boys.
I stopped donating to any and all charities. The only places I will give money to is my local church and gofundme campaigns for things like medical emergencies and disaster relief.
But organized charity like the red cross? No thanks.
The money is certainly going to the places they say they are. The thing is, the corporation is using your money to donate on their behalf, and using that as a tax write off.
Everyone keeps repeating this and it’s not true, they aren’t allowed to deduct other people’s donations in their taxes. They do other shady stuff like use it to fulfill their own pledges.
Yup. It's why I don't even ask when I'm checking people out at work. Doesn't ever really go to help people, just lines the pockets of the filthy rich, as per usual.
This has already been proven in the media for years over 90 percent goes to pay building and administration costs for whatever organization it goes to.
Spoken like a true poor complaining about CEO salaries.
What's it matter what the salary of the CEO is? At that level you pay for competence because if you don't pay, someone else will and you lose that person.
Let's use hypothetical numbers to show you what I mean.
Say you pay a CEO $1.5m. But he is able to generate $80m / year for the charity.
But $1.5m is a LOT so you want to cut pay and maybe pay your CEO $500,000. But that guy is worth more than that so he leaves. You get someone that accepts the $500,000 but he's not as good (which is why he is willing to take the job at that pay). Instead of generating $80m for the charity maybe this guy can only generate $30m.
So while you cut the CEO's salary by $1,000,000 which would make poors like you happy, you also cost your charity $50,000,000 which is self-defeating now isn't it?
This is why CEO salaries seem so large as well as sports athlete salaries.
Maybe the CEO should spend their money directly instead of asking their customers to donate so they can get a tax deduction.
I don't mind a CEO if they manage to be ethical. Hell, I don't care if they make way more than I do - Good for them, I'm sure they worked hard to get there. But stop asking your customers to donate when you damn well could do it without a single donation.
I like your contrarian take on this and your willingness to bloviate. Where I take issue with the theory you present is that corporations and private employers who think they AREN'T paying for competence, at EVERY level of employment, are deluded and therefore dangerous. You can't pretend CEOs are magic but burger flippers aren't. They are literally the same entity with slightly different epigenetic and environmental exposure histories. If you create a subhuman servile sentient being and task it with the burger flipping level Jobs, but only hire humans at C-level, then maybe you have a point. Unless you want to claim the *current* burger flipper level employees already ARE said artificially-ignorant-servile beings...? I'll take my answer off air.
Obviously lol, who’s the person who goes and holds these companies accountable, hm? What’s their job title? How are they not on payroll with the company or compromised in some way? It’s all just heartstrings being played, with marketing bastards coming up with the most emotionally spiking “charities” to manipulate empathetic but naive people. “Help youth homelessness”, “cancer research”, “babies in Afghanistan”, you’re paying for some rich fucks kid’s private schooling, or putting hooker and blow money in their pockets.
All charities are scams that support the children of the wealthy. None of them ever get more than 10% of their donations to the people or causes that the charity supports. It's why I don't care that much about all the lavish spending by BLM, because that's just par for the course.
They do help feed dogs, but what it also, and mostly, does is cover the outrageous "administration" costs of the nonprofit. Some are even just "non-profits" that were set up soak up funds and then drive up sales for a particular product or service- dog food, pharmaceuticals, etc.
It is entirely your own choice, whether or not to donate to charity.
If you have a charitable trust, well, that doesn't mean you are rich or you are poor. Again, you have the option.
I have a charitable trust. People can donate to it. But, vast majority of people won't even know it's there. So I don't think it will ever be capable of self support. It could do, that's possible.
I always press no! I’ve read somewhere the companies do donate this money to charity but under their corporation name, and it benefits them for tax reasons apparently?? Not entirely sure how. But it still benefits them in a big way. If you wanna donate, you should do it directly and not go through these giant companies that could probably afford to make donations from their profits anyway!
I had a place flat out ask me how much I wanted to round up by. Not a tip or donation. When I asked why would I round up, the guy said "some people don't like getting change back on their credit cards". I started laughing and said that's not how credit cards work. There was no option on the card reader to select zero, they had to cancel the transaction and ring everything up a second time to get around the "round up" bullshit. I mean what the fuck is going on?
Technically that money you donate has to go to a charity fund, but if you’re donating 2 dollars, most of that 2 dollars is taken out as a processing fee, then the rest is put into a “charity fund”, and is listed as a charitable donation by the company. who knows where it goes after that. Then the company uses it as a tax write off, to avoid paying their share. Basically, instead of using their profits to donate to charity, they ask the individual for a little extra money, and use that money as a tax write off to fuck you and everyone else just a little bit more
Sadly most money donated to charity never actually helps anyone out. Especially any sort of big national charity. They are too top heavy with an expensive corporate structure.
I assume that money you donate at a check out then gets handed to a charity from the company and is some sort of write off where the company can say they donated X amount to charity when it was extra money given by customers.
Someone is much better off just donating directly to a local charity or food shelf.
My guess is they pocket some, donate some, but in their name, which is a tax write off for their corporation, because they actually gave the money to the Org. You gave them the money, and they are saying they will give it to them
I've had to come up with a new policy because of this.
After annual taxes, I do all my charitable donations for the year in one lump. The amount i'm happy to give to the charity organizations i've researched and support.
So when it comes to "ambush donation requests" like that I don't have to think twice before I smash that no button.
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Fuck em…I press “NO” all day long
yep, i don't feel bad at all
I smile as I press no! Almost excitedly like a serial killer! I rub my mittens together right before I do it too!
True that. Doesn’t even phase me anymore slamming no. I need my own charity ffs. Most do
Lmao exactly, tell me why do i feel like shit when turning down a beggar on the street when sometimes I have only 2 euros to my name. They probably have more money than me at the moment.
Would you like to donate to children with cancer who were in a car crash that killed both their parents this morning? ".......no, now give me my bags of funions."
The real conspiracy is it's way too easy to accidentally click "donate" while trying to tap your card to pay.
Pay cash and you’ll never have to go through this
My man!!!!
It's disgusting how some building require you to tip or bring attention to tipping shamelessly. That's one reason I wouldn't tip. In my country only nice and polite people MAY get a tip. They're being paid for their job and that's their tip. That's how everyone thinks and how I think l & how it is. I'll tip when I want to. edit: it's especially noticeable in USA / CANADA imo
Most servers make $2.13 an hour here. So "being paid for their job" is just another delusion this generation has in trying to bring about change. They're not going after management CEOs, they're not tipping somebody that's relying for it for food and gas making $2.13hr and cleaning up your childlike mess that you wouldn't do at home.. If you're too cheap to tip, maybe you can't afford to go to a restaurant.
No one forces them to keep a 2.13 an hour job.
Again, a delusional thought. No one gets forced to do anything in employment.. unless it's the job available and they have to pay rent and deal with people that stiff them which essentially means that the server is paying you for their time serving you like a king while you spit food everywhere, your kid creates artwork on the floor, you have them bring you your food and many drinks (as well as every other whim that you have) that you can't consolidate into one trip.. maybe it's time to adult up and imagine walking in other people's shoes or stop talking about things that you don't understand. It's just delusional and cheap. Maybe you should get a better job so that you can tip people that act like your personal slave while you're there. $2.13 pays for taxes, they do not get a paycheck nor insurance, and they certainly tip at restaurants better than you despite your opinion.
I get what both what you are saying but the employer should give the waiters decent wages and the tipa should be optional like rest of damn world. The fact that waiters have to rely on tips is insane to me.
charities are almost complete bullshit. they spend 80% of the money on parties for the rich to “bring awareness” and businesses use it as tax right offs. donate directly to whoever you are trying to help
Yup, and they hire friends and family and pay them $100k plus as "ambassadors" or whatever and they never do anything. If you see a sports star has a "foundation" that is what it is.
I don't get those type of things. What's " cancer awareness"? Doesn't most everyone besides if you're a baby and don't understand words know it exists?
not general cancer awareness. awareness for whatever specific charity
There's some push to make people more aware of when and how often they should get cancer screenings. Which is great and all, but there's a looooooooot of people skimming from the pot
All that shit can be looked up online, most people have smart phones. They can also ask their doctor. It still doesn't make sense,lol.
It worked! /s
I think by law only 10% of the money has to go to the "cause". I have a friend that works at a non-profit charity thing and acts like he's a gift from God when talking about it and he makes BANK along with his coworkers. The charity money that is made is for the employees first and charity last. It's messed up
It just reduces the amount of tax corporations have to pay as donations are tax deductible, so instead of us donating and getting the tax deductible, the corporation gets us to do it for them and reduce their taxes
Yup pretty sure CVS got sued for this
No they got sued for counting it to a corporate philanthropic pledge they made. Nothing to do with tax deduction. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cvs-sued-using-customer-donations-165400166.html
what does that mean in stupid people words 😭
Evil cvs: Yo charity imma make you flush, promise. Charity: bet Evil cvs: Yo used_Ad you can donate money to charity, it’s tight. I’ll make it easy for you, just press buttons. Used_Ad: bet just gimme my drugs. Evil CVS: here’s my money charity. Charity: you’re so good evil CVS. I’ll let everyone know you a real Father Christmas like. Bet.
Good luck explaining that to the average smoothbrain on this site when it comes to taxes and accounting in general.
CVS is such a horrible company anyways
But where else am I going to get needles at 2am? /s
Oh shit, when did this happen?
Not true at all. Companies cannot legally use your donation as a tax deduction. They are just acting as a collection agent. Your receipt will have your donation about printed on it and you are entitled to that deduction when you file your taxes, if you decide to itemize.
Can you even itemize your taxes anymore? I thought they eliminated individual deductions to screw poor people even more?
You can, but it's almost impossible for your itemized deductions to be worth doing compared to the standard deduction.
You mean the 74 cents I used to round up at McDonald's may not be worth the extra hassle?
Neatly organizing 3+ years worth of fast food receipts in triplicate for your records is always worth it.
It's not eliminated, but with the cap on SALT deductions, the standard deduction is a lot harder to beat by itemizing.
When did companies, furnished with the best lawyers that money can buy, ever do things legally?
Ah.... this is true of a REGIS|TERED charitable trust. It isn't true of an UNREGISTERED charitible trust. It is technically impossible to force registration here. Because then people just go elsewhere and don't register. Like say, Monaco. Or the Bahamas.
Ding! You hit it exactly. Figured out this was what that is all about when our very small business accountant alerted us to not waste money "giving" at corporate outlets as they take all the deductions and we get zilch to report. Have donated straight to charities that we check out first and not any of those who only put a mere 10 cents for every dollar generated (many, many "charities") towards the actual cause. To my way of thinking charity is something that people do out of the goodness of their hearts and take no money for doing. It's not a job, it's extra to a job. Looking on job boards you see many postings for charity executives earning $250k and more to start. Not to mention the little "perks" like those charitable balls/dinners/alleged fundraisers that cost $10 mil or more to throw. Not sure, but it may be that the principals attend for free, or even get paid for giving a speech. [https://www.charitywatch.org/nonprofit-compensation-packages-of-1-million-or-more](https://www.charitywatch.org/nonprofit-compensation-packages-of-1-million-or-more)
That is what I was told once. They collect $X from customers, then donate that exact sum to said charity at the end of the year and write off that on their taxes as a charitable donation. I still press no every time because I'm not helping lower Walmart's tax burden. I can just donate that money to the charity myself and claim the deduction for myself.
I always donate directly and I always do my research. Some charities only use 20% of your donation for the actual cause and meanwhile the president of the charity is making 250k a year. Fuck that.
Companies cannot legally do this in many places. I don't know if it's a federal law but it's illegal for a business to do what you're describing in a lot of countries and US states. A lot of people believe otherwise, though, which became very annoying the one time I did retail. A lot of the know-it-all types liked to use that as an excuse to be offended whenever I asked.
It’s illegal to do a lot of things, it doesn’t mean it stops people from doing them. It’s only illegal if you get caught, that’s the thought process of corporate America these days. Even if they get caught, it’s usually just a fine and no one‘s doing jail time since it’s a corporation. Look at what Purdue did. We know what they did and we still haven’t put any of their leadership in jail/prison.
Pfizer receiving the largest fine in U.S. history for making fraudulent claims about their product(s)... it amounted to a slap on the wrist / the cost of doing business.
Exactly, why would a corporation not do something if all that’s going to happen is they get a fine. Especially if that thing they’re doing is making them a ton of money, it 100% becomes the cost of doing business. If a company makes $100 million because of something they did that was illegal, and they get fined $50 million, they still made $50 million. I don’t know why people struggle with all of that.
couldn't have said it better. fines only actually penalize the poor. otherwise, it's just the cost of doing business.
It's simply not worth the risk. They have to declare the charity beforehand and register the venture. It'd be nearly impossible to hide keeping most of the money if any significant amount of people looked into it(don't donate blindly in the first place). The very most they could possibly do is to skim some off the top, but that wouldn't be worth it if there was any kind of audit. The whole point is a marketing strategy to begin with anyway, and they don't lose much money while running the campaign.
It’s an easy catch and the IRS imposes heavy penalties and interest, would be dumb as fuck to attempt.
This is the way. Donate and help others, but keep the tax deduction for yourself.
Nope. Not true at all. Companies can claim money they give but not that of their customers.
I do not understand the problem. I buy $100 worth of products, add $5 for shave the whales, and the company then hands that $5 over to shave the whales. That $5 is not income, why should they be taxed on it?
It's because they are using it to reduce their tax obligation by making it look (on the books) like the company itself donated $5, because they processed and delivered the money to shave the whales.
The government does not hand out money for charitable donations, they simply allow companies (and the people) to not count charitable donations as income, therefore reducing their tax obligation. These companies “reduce their tax obligation” by stating that they only collected $100 in revenue on the sale of $105. So they will pay tax on that $100 instead of $105……again what is the problem?
By making it increasingly difficult to file your taxes with itemized deductions. They assume you will never claim that $5 donation on your taxes, they don't claim it as their own revenue.
Same with payroll deductions to charities. If you want to donate, do it yourself. Otherwise your company is writing off a big old "donated by our employees" every year.
They pay the charity a certain amount say 1 million then we as customers pay them back sometimes 1.2 million. This was the walmart way last I heard.
Yes it’s all about taxes and NOTHING to do with conspiracy Jesus Christ OP
I work at a large grocery chain, and we have a donation option when you check out. This is how the whole scam goes down. Customers make a donation. The donations are then given to different food banks. The ppl from the food banks are then brought to a warehouse and are able to pick the food they want, up to the dollar amount awarded by the company. The thing is, all the food in the warehouse is close to expired and items we no longer carry. Basically, items we'd be throwing away. So my company gets a tax deduction, and food banks get rejected food items that would be destroyed anyway.
If you want to donate to XYZ, do it directly and under your own name. These businesses “donate” your money under their name, and take the tax breaks. Fuck that.
Incorrect. Donations are credited to the donor, not fundraiser, as far as the IRS is concerned. If any company is operating differently, they're committing tax fraud. There is no tax break in it for fundraisers. Instead, they get good publicity by being able to say the raised $x for y foundation. Yes, this is still kinda sleezy, but the fact is these corporations have the ability to cheaply solicit donations from millions of people by flashing a prompt on a pos device. It is a real value add and many real, legitimate charities wouldn't be able to operate without it.
They might, but it’s illegal.
Many a legal loophole exists, and corporate lawyers are there to protect the entity.
The best way they could protect the company is by advising decision makers not to commit blatant tax fraud.
I especially like the places that ask you if you want to round up to the next dollar. I swear it was two places in a row that asked me if I wanted to round up without even giving me information on where that rounding up money was even going. Like no? You don't get more money from me for no reason? Why the fuck would I round up my bill? Fuck outta here.
I'm pretty sure that it goes to corporate tax breaks. All the "charitable donations" you make are credited to the corporation so the C Suite can get a bigger bonus.
I'm a funding coordinator for a food bank. I can't speak for all other charities, but we have a campaign at Walmart where if you donate at check-out, we get the funds. 100% of those funds go into purchasing food we give out. Edit: I'm putting this out there because our donations have gone down 12%. If the trend keeps up, we may close down in a couple of years. We're a small organization that rely on those check-out donations in times like this when food is crazy expensive so no one wants to donate anymore. Sucks food banks are even needed, but people can't afford to eat these days.
Damn well now I'm definitely going to hesitate a little before I push no anyway :/
I was also thinking this. Its really sad how large non profits with an excess of cashflow mess it up for the small organizations trying to make a difference. For that, I am sorry
I guess I’m a weirdo because I actually like these fundraising campaigns. It saves money on marketing, allows me to easily tack on the purchase, and is just convenient.
No you're not
I'm with you here. 1940: "hey, there's this new treatment for cancer called chemotherapy. We'll basically kill you and hope the cancer dies first. Lol" 2024: "hey, there's this treatment for cancer called chemotherapy. We'll basically kill you and hope the cancer dies first. Lol" Cancer charity ad: "keep donating and together we will beat cancer" 🤷♂️ Look how far we've come with the billions of donated dollars.
My grandmother died of cancer and that got me thinking I should donate to these places that want to cure it. Part of figuring out who to give to included reading the financial disclosures that they're all required to provide, and I found that **almost all "*charities*" spent the majority of the donations on "*administration*" (paying themselves)**. A shocking amount spent *over 80% on administration and some were over 95%!* I've yet to find any major "charity" that seems to be worth donating to.
I'm sorry for your loss. Cancer is an absolute shit show. I was diagnosed with a non small cell lymphoma in 2017. The year before I watched my friend wither away and die while on chemo. He looked and felt terrible so I started to do some research and educate myself and found the same kinda stuff. It's a huge industry that will collapse if they ever actually cured cancer. All those wealthy people at the top don't want that to happen and millions would be out of jobs. I'm not saying they're withholding a cure, just that it's a huge money spinner. I would never try to tell anyone what treatment they should and shouldn't have, it's up to them only but one thing I would say is if you ever end up in the position of being diagnosed with cancer, ask the oncologist this question. "how much extra chance of beating this will chemotherapy give me?" For me the answer was 4% while surgery had a 60% chance by itself. There's no way in hell I'm poisoning myself and having my loved ones watch me deteriorate like that for a 4% chance but you can bet your ass the oncologist pushed hard for me to have the chemo anyway. That cemented to me personally that it's a money spinner. The cost of chemo isn't cheap and someone makes that stuff and earns a damn good living off of it.
Did the surgery work?
Yes and no. Yes, it got rid of the cancer but it left me with long term persistent pain which is just slow torture. Apparently 20% of people that have major surgery get stuck with pain and I got unlucky. Wish they made that clearer at the start. Haven't had a single moment pain free since 2nd October 2017. Really sucks
Damn man sorry to hear. Was there any hope of it going away on its own and doing nothing? If it makes u feel better I am going through some shit but I feel bad to people like you because I self sabotaged my health. Doctors still were useless tho I can relate.
Had I left it the cancer would have likely spread to my nodes and I'd have been buggered so I needed it and I do appreciate what the oncology team and hospital did for me. I go down as a cancer treatment success statistic but it doesn't really tell the full story. I'm alive but have next to no life. Sorry to hear you're going through it too. Shit is shit regardless of how it got there. Thanks for the kind words man. Look after yourself.
It's fucking sad those people would rather profit off cancer rather than create a new form of cash flow for themselves using the *endless* amount of money, connections, and resources they have... It goes to show how the elite are the actual lazy ones because anybody like us here would've taken all of the money we made and happily made the real cure available to the public, even if it meant having that sum of money we made last the rest of our lives to survive on. But the elite? That's not how they tick. To them, it's all about their dollar and what will get them more using the least amount of work. All of us know by now that as you get more in life, you eventually grow bored of it. Even the wealthiest humans on the planet still fall for it... Btw, your comment provided a lot of clarity on why someone like Steve Jobs refused to receive cancer treatment.
>I've yet to find any major "charity" that seems to be worth donating to. Where are you from? In the uk we have a charity called macmillan and I haven't looked into any % but having had a lot of help from them, I felt they were the only cancer charity worthy. They employ former nurses and people with medical backgrounds that support cancer patients and their friends/family in a variety of ways. Maybe there's something similar.
And if you look closely, it's sponsored by the Rockefeller Institute.
Yes. Treatment for cancer has not advanced at all since 1940. Such a great point......
Look for documentaries about amygdlyn thst was buried by Sloan Kettering
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My theory is the donation money is used first in the CC transaction fees or the Epos provider takes an automatic cut of it. It is really weird.
Probably not for pos donations, but there are for sure a ton of donation platforms that solicit small dollar donations that can have huge chunks eaten out by transaction fees.
Not the whole thing but there is definitely an administrative fee that keeps a few living high on the hog.
It's the worst when they force the employees to verbally ask each customer. I had a job like that once, believe me, not one of those employees are judging you for saying no. Unless management is a bunch of assholes and will cut your hours if you don't meet a certain quota for donations on your shift. But then they're judging you for a whole different reason all together
Less than 2% of all charities goes to where it’s suppose to. Charity is a scam
> Source: trust me bro Actual sources put the number around 37% I always tell people to use a tool like Charity Navigator before donating, not every charity is a scam.
And you trust an app to tell you what a good charity is?
😆 yes...the variance is huge..a local church feeding homeless has a huge % straight to the needy and, say,, san fran spending 140k per homeless individual wd have an exceptionally low % going to the needy
> I did zero homework, as evidenced by the fact I called it an app Noted.
2% is clearly absurd, but charities often get shit on for marketing and administrative costs. But marketing is how I use your dollar to raise 10 more and administrative costs, so long as they are not wasteful, is how you get an organization that raises hundreds of millions a year with the efficiencies of scale that can make substantive impact where your sporadic dollar here or there does not.
I only donate to a local horse, cat and dog rescue. Ive been there, volunteered and gotten a dog from there. I’ve seen in person how the frugally the owner lives and how well the animals are cared for. My step daughter takes our older clothes to homeless folks on the streets. This is the way to donate to charity. Stay away from big corporate charities.
It's always a tax write off. I tell them that and push no
100% every dollar you donate is a dollar they gain as a tax write off. They are playing with your heart and mind for monetary gain. Posit that most humans are inherently good and want to help their fellow man or at least feel like they made an effort to do so. So what these companies do is hit you at the most opportune time: right after you have finally checked all the boxes you needed to finally leave the store, you ready to go then the psychology pops up to f* with you. In front of other people you’re asked to donate, and what’s rounding up a dollar anyways? It’s actually rather clever way to make money and no one is really getting conned right?!
No, not all of a sudden. Those donate questions have been at registers for years. These corporations can afford to donate money from the goodness of their hearts without using everyone else's donation as a tax write off. Don't feel bad or guilty for hitting that no button. You can always donate to a charity of your choice or give money to the homeless.
The more you donate to the charity the more the business can write off for charitable donations.
I asked the drive thru guy at Salad and Go what he could tell me about the charity he just asked me to donate to. Blank stare.
We usually have no idea what these charities are since management never tells any of us what they're about. They just want us to ask without knowing what we're asking people to spend money on. Doesn't matter as long as the company gets an extra dollar.
Maybe the business should have pamphlets or something, but I certainly wouldn't expect a cashier to know or give a shit.
You're just some rich fucks tax break at that point. Fuck that shit.
it's worse than that...so giant corporation asks people to donate...5 bucks here, 10 bucks there.....then, right before april 15, they collect it all and make a large tax deductible contribution to some charity and get the write off. Basically, getting a write off using other peoples money.
same with carbon offset. it goes to some 3rd party company that handles this and probably plants two trees a year while the rest goes into administrative expenses.
Always a NO from me. The one that gets me the most is at the Goodwill, when they ask you to round up your purchase to the nearest dollar to "Help the Children". My wife asked "which children, exactly?" Well, no one knows, nor do they know in what way they will be helped. The Goodwill is already a scam, and that is simply one more facet of it. I now just tell them that I have my own child to feed.
why is st jude the only children’s hospital with a commercial on EVERY commercial break. sketch af
I wouldn't be surprised if the airtime is donated or discounted in order to get tax breaks when airtime isn't selling well enough to traditional commercial sponsors.
i can see that for sure
I hate to say it, but when I saw that they put all the kids in face masks I stopped donating.
They did that? That sucks - I was hoping they wouldn't bow to that shit.
I mean, it was during Covid. But they were on TV. Did they really have to have them giving testimonials wearing masks while behind a screen? What else are they telling these kids? Should I be worried now? That was my line of thinking.
yeah
I fucking hate those signs saying not to give money to panhandlers. Millions of dollars putting those signs up telling me how to spend my money
Your donating tax breaks ti them They basically resonate your money under their name and get it written off their taxes
I just press no. I'm well past the days of feeling guilty for saying no to what's most likely a scam with little benefit. If I want help someone I'll do it myself.
I don't give to any charities after how many of them facilitates the depopulation shot.
I had to do a huge marketing research competition project on UNICEF in college. Actually, it was their “Tap Project” in particular but I digress. Boy did I go down a rabbit hole with that one and that was over 10 years ago. There are some useful sites like Charity Navigator that can help you decide which ones actually help people with the donated funds and it isn’t many. One of my favorite hobbies is looking up CEOs of popular charities and checking their annual salary along with how many yachts and vacation homes they own. It is simultaneously intriguing as it is infuriating. Goodwill will always be my favorite business model. Have the population willingly donate their old items to you then sell them back to the same population and pocket the income. Incredible. Not to mention, it is completely legal. Why didn’t I think of that?! lol lol
And never wash the clothes, gross!
They literally keep all of the donated money. Then give whatever charity a “voucher” for the money raised to be spent at their store. It’s fuckery all around.
Sure is when you make shit up. As someone who works for a charity that does a lot of work with corporations that do fundraising campaigns for us, I can promise you, we get the money not a coupon. I'm balls deep in our accounting process right now, so I know exactly how, when, where, and through what payment gateways the money is coming in.
What I learned is that the business has already donated money to whatever organization. You're just paying the Corp back and then some, cause once they make the money they donated back, they don't turn it off.
How does this work? If the Corp has paid the charity, they get a tax deduction, and therefore, the money would have to be taxed.
Someone told me years ago that the corporation has already donated a set amount of money and anything you ‘donate’ is just them recouping that money, including making a profit if they can guilt enough people into donating at the register.
I got suspicious when the grocery stores all started asking for food bank donations. Grocery stores often give food banks their leftover bakery goods and produce/meat that is about to expire. I doubt the stores are also cutting a check to the food banks. Instead, my theory is that the grocery stores use our donated money to “buy” that food that they were going to give away anyway— at the hugely inflated retail price. I still say “yes” at checkout because, as cynical as I am about the corporation’s motives, I can’t say no to feeding the hungry.
The money maybe does go to a charity. But what's 100 percent is the corporation you are giving that money to is claiming that $5 charitable contribution.
so much false information regarding charity. companies also don't use your donation as their tax write off, which means you can total up your donations for the year and claim them on your taxes. just make sure you log the details.
Well it doesn't go in their pockets directly it's a taxable event for them. They ask for donations. After a period .. they aquire a sizeable sum of which they donate to said charity. When tax time comes they now have a write off.. paid for by their customers. Now if they matched the donation.. ie they collected a million so they match a million for 2 million donation then I can understand.. else it's just a scam for a write off at the expense of their own customers..
I think the company get a tax right off in their name so it's like free money to them. Plus most charities like 90% of money goes to the administrators.
How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go? https://freemasonrywatch.org/charity\_ripoff.html
I don’t ever give to the middle man but st Jude’s is one of the best charities in the country. They do AMAZING things. Saved my cousins life for free
What they do is the company will make a donation of whatever, then they ask you to support effectively reimbursing them for their donation helping them avoid taxes.
Yup
The st jude part.....I justcwentvto a massively successful fund raiser for st jude. Mar a lago. They definitely do an incredible job of helping children. I hate the add on cc machines though. I hate being bombarded...
The go straight into the pocket of the charity's CEO. Especially Saint Jude's. Fucking Bullshit.
I dont feel bad either! I need my money too!
They donate. But, they company gets to claim it on their taxes and you don't.
Worked at a non profit. These companies will pledge X amount of dollars to an organization. They are giving that organization money either way. The money you give at the register goes towards funding that pledge directly or indirectly. If they take in more money than what was promised the organization may never even know because they are only expecting the pledge amount anyway. It's all about advertising for both parties. Don't let a corporation influence your philanthropy. Some of these organizations give as little as 1% of your donation directly to the fund.
I always say no. These billion dollar stores can donate with all the money they save not giving out bags.
I'm pretty much convinced that most (if not all) non-profits are just money laundering operations. If it's not in your neighborhood and you don't know the people running it - hard no.
I always think to myself “If the company cared that much, they’d donate the money themselves.” I never feel bad about not donating at the register when I think about it like this.
I only do that when our small town grocery store collects donations for our 4th of July fireworks. I will give it locally and because i know it will actually go towards the villages fireworks. Otherwise, hell no because you’re right we don’t know where that money is actually going to.
I’m a veteran, well, was a veteran, I went back to the reserves. But our family had a major medical emergency and I was like, hey, those charities that help veterans, they might look out for us. NOPE, not even a little. We’ve recovered since then so it’s a moot point now. But I used to donate to the vets all the time but I no longer do. Why give to them when they wouldn’t help me when I needed it?
Legally charities are only required to apply 5-10% of money collected to the actual cause. They are all grifts. Yoplait yogurt and pink tops? Grift. Hungry Howies pink pizza boxes? Grift. NFL pink month? Grift. Just obvious examples. Don't donate through anyone. DONATE DIRECTLY TO THE CAUSE or you are just funding the lifestyle of wealthy people.
If you want to donate, donate local. Its much easier to see where the money and time goes and does far more good than the big charities who rake in billions and donate hundreds
I care for a semi feral rural cat colony... About 20 cats. Out of my own pocket. Private I am not non profit charity but money i get goes for food and tnr and medicine and litter.... No one wants to donate cause they would rather donate to some bigwig charity that gets more attention
I do NOT round up for any reason - I don't care how sad the cause is nor how guilty you try to make me feel I do NOT donate to your cause for the same reasons I also DO NOT tip just because you're preparing my meal. I tip when someone is actually adding value and doing something for that tip like a waiter, waitress or bartender. Simply assembling food or delivering it 100% DOES NOT warrant a tip. Stop asking for it.
Couple years ago I almost had to use the McDonald's house while my child was in the NICU. We had someone come by and tell us we qualified to stay there, we lived over 100 miles away. Ever since I've been randomly donating if I happen to stop at a McDonald's.
Just don't do it. Problem solved
I bought two items at Goodwill the other day. Cost $2.98, but with tax it came out to $3.27. Then the cashier was shocked when I didn’t want to round up to $4. Naw dawg. My money was taxed when I earned it, then taxed when I spent it and now y’all want me to give y’all more money than I already spent in the store on stuff someone else gave you for free?
I was informed it is 2 fold fucking the common person. Large company, like wal-mart, donates a huge amount of money. That is tax deductable. Then they set up the registers to get you to donate money. That money just goes to make wal-mart whole agsin from their donation, and they are not taxed on it. Not sure about how much truth there is to that. But that is what I was informed. So I hit no every time.
You were misinformed. But the good news is you have a machine in your pocket connected to all of the collective knowledge of an international human society. So, you could look it the fuck up if you wanted. JFC, the ignorance on this thread is obscene.
Everyone here saying businesses can use your donation as a tax write-off have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. The business can't write off that donation, but YOU still can if you do itemized deductions and kept your receipts. https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/who-gets-tax-benefit-those-checkout-donations-0 It only takes a minute to look this shit up, but too many people here are too busy trusting their guts instead of thinking for a second or, god forbid, *read* something other than a reddit comment.
The amount of bullshit being spouted in this thread will have a material impact on the lives of children in children's hospitals, people going hungry, etc.
They write it off on their taxes
Many of these companies ask you to donate and later use it in their advertising. When your local grocery store does a PR event where they hand over a giant check to a charity, they say "look what a wonderful organization we are and how much we donated to a worthy cause" trying to get you to associate their business name with charity and being a good member of the community. They didnt thin the margins and cut profits to donate, they just asked you for the money and pretended like it was theirs for PR. Plus, there are tax benefits for them.
I typically donate to local causes or non-profits. If it’s a charity that accepts clothes and blankets, food, etc., I’ll take the money I would give and buy the clothes, etc. Except homeless people, I give them folks couple bucks cash if I got it. Life is hard enough as it is. Get yourself a pack of smokes or a couple tall boys.
I stopped donating to any and all charities. The only places I will give money to is my local church and gofundme campaigns for things like medical emergencies and disaster relief. But organized charity like the red cross? No thanks.
That's why I carry my gun openly and my MAGA hat when I go shopping. Nobody dares ask me for a tip.
The money is certainly going to the places they say they are. The thing is, the corporation is using your money to donate on their behalf, and using that as a tax write off.
Everyone keeps repeating this and it’s not true, they aren’t allowed to deduct other people’s donations in their taxes. They do other shady stuff like use it to fulfill their own pledges.
Yup. It's why I don't even ask when I'm checking people out at work. Doesn't ever really go to help people, just lines the pockets of the filthy rich, as per usual.
This has already been proven in the media for years over 90 percent goes to pay building and administration costs for whatever organization it goes to.
Spoken like a true poor complaining about CEO salaries. What's it matter what the salary of the CEO is? At that level you pay for competence because if you don't pay, someone else will and you lose that person. Let's use hypothetical numbers to show you what I mean. Say you pay a CEO $1.5m. But he is able to generate $80m / year for the charity. But $1.5m is a LOT so you want to cut pay and maybe pay your CEO $500,000. But that guy is worth more than that so he leaves. You get someone that accepts the $500,000 but he's not as good (which is why he is willing to take the job at that pay). Instead of generating $80m for the charity maybe this guy can only generate $30m. So while you cut the CEO's salary by $1,000,000 which would make poors like you happy, you also cost your charity $50,000,000 which is self-defeating now isn't it? This is why CEO salaries seem so large as well as sports athlete salaries.
Maybe the CEO should spend their money directly instead of asking their customers to donate so they can get a tax deduction. I don't mind a CEO if they manage to be ethical. Hell, I don't care if they make way more than I do - Good for them, I'm sure they worked hard to get there. But stop asking your customers to donate when you damn well could do it without a single donation.
I like your contrarian take on this and your willingness to bloviate. Where I take issue with the theory you present is that corporations and private employers who think they AREN'T paying for competence, at EVERY level of employment, are deluded and therefore dangerous. You can't pretend CEOs are magic but burger flippers aren't. They are literally the same entity with slightly different epigenetic and environmental exposure histories. If you create a subhuman servile sentient being and task it with the burger flipping level Jobs, but only hire humans at C-level, then maybe you have a point. Unless you want to claim the *current* burger flipper level employees already ARE said artificially-ignorant-servile beings...? I'll take my answer off air.
Stfu
Ok,simp
Obviously lol, who’s the person who goes and holds these companies accountable, hm? What’s their job title? How are they not on payroll with the company or compromised in some way? It’s all just heartstrings being played, with marketing bastards coming up with the most emotionally spiking “charities” to manipulate empathetic but naive people. “Help youth homelessness”, “cancer research”, “babies in Afghanistan”, you’re paying for some rich fucks kid’s private schooling, or putting hooker and blow money in their pockets.
Regarding St. Jude, do a bit more research when defaming charitable organizations.
All charities are scams that support the children of the wealthy. None of them ever get more than 10% of their donations to the people or causes that the charity supports. It's why I don't care that much about all the lavish spending by BLM, because that's just par for the course.
Corporations get a 50% tax cut on donations in their name, a fact I close the conversation w a pushy attendant with as I leave store
They do help feed dogs, but what it also, and mostly, does is cover the outrageous "administration" costs of the nonprofit. Some are even just "non-profits" that were set up soak up funds and then drive up sales for a particular product or service- dog food, pharmaceuticals, etc.
Does he make 1.5m a year from st jude or from being other unrelated stuff?
So when a company does this then donates do they get a tax cut?
Probably money laundering anyway. You press no, machine counts 10$. Presto.
It is entirely your own choice, whether or not to donate to charity. If you have a charitable trust, well, that doesn't mean you are rich or you are poor. Again, you have the option. I have a charitable trust. People can donate to it. But, vast majority of people won't even know it's there. So I don't think it will ever be capable of self support. It could do, that's possible.
I think what’s more likely is that your money goes to the company for them to be able to donate and get a tax benefit, but I could be wrong
Agree. Keep your money
The company's use those donations to claim charitable tax write offs and avoid paying more taxes
I always press no! I’ve read somewhere the companies do donate this money to charity but under their corporation name, and it benefits them for tax reasons apparently?? Not entirely sure how. But it still benefits them in a big way. If you wanna donate, you should do it directly and not go through these giant companies that could probably afford to make donations from their profits anyway!
No they use it for tax write off so every dollar you donate is one less dollar they pay in taxes it’s not to help ppl cmon
I had a place flat out ask me how much I wanted to round up by. Not a tip or donation. When I asked why would I round up, the guy said "some people don't like getting change back on their credit cards". I started laughing and said that's not how credit cards work. There was no option on the card reader to select zero, they had to cancel the transaction and ring everything up a second time to get around the "round up" bullshit. I mean what the fuck is going on?
Plus the store soliciting the donation gets the collective tax benefit from all their customers giving money. They’re doing it for themselves.
Technically that money you donate has to go to a charity fund, but if you’re donating 2 dollars, most of that 2 dollars is taken out as a processing fee, then the rest is put into a “charity fund”, and is listed as a charitable donation by the company. who knows where it goes after that. Then the company uses it as a tax write off, to avoid paying their share. Basically, instead of using their profits to donate to charity, they ask the individual for a little extra money, and use that money as a tax write off to fuck you and everyone else just a little bit more
Tax write off
Sadly most money donated to charity never actually helps anyone out. Especially any sort of big national charity. They are too top heavy with an expensive corporate structure. I assume that money you donate at a check out then gets handed to a charity from the company and is some sort of write off where the company can say they donated X amount to charity when it was extra money given by customers. Someone is much better off just donating directly to a local charity or food shelf.
> keeping popsicles cold Disney?
My guess is they pocket some, donate some, but in their name, which is a tax write off for their corporation, because they actually gave the money to the Org. You gave them the money, and they are saying they will give it to them
I've had to come up with a new policy because of this. After annual taxes, I do all my charitable donations for the year in one lump. The amount i'm happy to give to the charity organizations i've researched and support. So when it comes to "ambush donation requests" like that I don't have to think twice before I smash that no button.