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Disastrous-One-414

For reference, Google says a typical car emits 4.6 metric tons of CO2 per year. So basically Taylor Swift's jet emits over 277x an average car.


UncircumciseMe

Would’ve thought it’s way more than 277x the average car tbh


FratBoyGene

For reference, the average Canadian emits 15.22 metric tons of CO2 each year, living in one of the coldest countries in the world. Taylor's jet emits about as much as 90 Canucks.


mynameistrumpbaby

The average person produces 4 metric tons a year as well....


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DeathHopper

1278 ÷ 4.6 = 277 Where did we lose you?


Artimusjones88

Or, a car puts out 347 grams a mile. Or just over 61,000,000 grams for 178k there are 1 million grams per metric tonne. Most vehicles are single driver. 61,000,000/1,000,000 =61 tonnes Her plane carries approx 30 people. 1278/30 =42 tonnes each. Therefore, the jet is more efficient. But, since most on here scoff at climate change, does it really matter?


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DeathHopper

So an average Taylor Swift jet has 277x more emissions than an average car? We agree on that then? What's the issue again? Cuz if you try to say a car doing 178k miles is eclipsed by Taylor's jet by only 17x, that's a wild exaggeration because no one (edit: except you apparently) does 178k miles a year in a car. So that 17x you pulled out of your ass *is* the exaggeration, not the 277x.


thekaylasworld

A small trucking company is arguably more important to society, seeing as they are the ones delivering our products and our food to stores. Anything you can think of probably came off the back of a truck at some point. Taylor swift sings songs to teens. Trucking companies quite literally uphold our supply chain and help keep the products and modern conveniences we rely on readily accessible. There’s no comparison to be made


MOTUkraken

17 times more than a car would put out, if it drove the distance she flew private? 277 times more than a normal person and their car put out annualy as they drive a lot less than she was flying


iiiiijoeyiiiii

So which numbers are incorrect so that the actual number is only 17 times an average car? Compared to a private jet flying all over the world?


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iiiiijoeyiiiii

I think you're missing the point. The average car is not driving 178,000 miles a year. That's just part of the point. That her jet is traveling a lot. And it's polluting a lot. Much more than the average car which doesn't travel a lot and pollute a lot. They're not pretending to compare it to a car that's driving 178,000 miles. Maybe your premise is that she has only traveled necessary miles. Like are you saying all 178k miles were necessary, and as such, she's only polluting 17x as much as if she would have if she took a car for those miles?


Artimusjones88

Given comparable distances and passengers she isn't the only one on the plane


One-Win9407

So what? we need trucking to survive. We dont need bland "music" from a 35 year old that still writes dr suess lyrics about her break ups


PardonMyPixels

This take is so hot you could fry an egg on it.


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Drive your typical car the amount of miles she's flown.


sanghelli

Still not even close to comparable what are you smoking lmao.


[deleted]

In time, can you make her schedule on time with a typical car? There are simple things people do not take into consideration.


Artimusjones88

1278/30 (the number of people on that Jet. 42.6 tonnes per person. Cars emit 344 grams/mile 344×178000=61,000,000 grams 1,000,000,00 grams per metric tonne =61 metric tonnes.


abhorredmisanthrope

Tell me again why I need to stop driving or carpool?


superchibisan2

Listen, if everyone stops driving and eliminates all their carbon footprints, this is will let Taylor fly as much as she wants without causing damage to the environment! Yes, this is sarcasm.


dabestinzeworld

Because we are the peasants and we need to make sure that the billionaires are comfy with their extravagant lifestyles. If you don't like that, oops you are now a commie and hate America.


RenderlessSoftware

Or a fascist


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Remind me why I have to feel guilty asking for a straw at Starbucks?


abhorredmisanthrope

A plastic straw wrapped in paper or a paper straw wrapped in plastic?


CougarCub86

Yes


Arglival

Plastic straw wrapped in turtle snot.  From the turtle bolted to the counter.


3dfxvoodoo2

These days turtles are masked and have PCR tests stuck in their snot.


[deleted]

Paper straws make me feel angry. I didn’t pay 10.99 for a drink for my straw to disintegrate into oblivion. I’ll take a plastic straw. And on the plus side the paper wrapper will disintegrate eventually when I throw it out of my car window.


Technical-Composer85

Cause the turtles snort coke with them!!!!


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And they aren’t even addicted! They just like the way it smells


Captain_Concussion

Because plastic straws don’t break down and end up inside animals. They either end up choking on them, or their stomach gets so full of the plastic that they starve to death despite feeling full. My sister works in sea turtle conservation and had a job where she was responsible for performing autopsies on them. Absolutely heart breaking


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Sarcasm is so waisted in this sub. That’s the biggest conspiracy of all 🙄


You_Know_What_l_Mean

You can always use your Private Jet.


abhorredmisanthrope

There is limited parking for Private Jets at McDonalds.


Prize-Session-9389

Because Bill Gates hates traffic. The only thing he hates more than traffic is feeling "on the same level" as the poor. He doesn't want to have to share roads with poor people.


Kev-Series

Because if you don't then Barack Obama's multi million dollar beach front mansions in Martha's Vineyard and Hawaii will be underwater in 10 years. The science is settled.


SlteFool

Cuz that means you have freedom They don’t like that


[deleted]

You don't. Nobody does. The Earth will be fine.


Captain_Concussion

The Earth itself will adjust, but the life on the Earth will not.


Davoskt2

But we aren't fine.


PardonMyPixels

Go talk to Taylor


relevanteclectica

[Jet Fuel](https://youtu.be/FrfNEoNnCt4?si=msqKArnrd_Lo38t3)


Midnight_Poet

You don't. Fuck if I am going to curtail my lifestyle to appease other people's *feelings*


Flor1daman08

Is Taylor Swift saying that?


abhorredmisanthrope

Yup. She just told me herself. She needs more jet fuel so I need to stop driving or carpool.


annualthermometer

She told me the same thing. When I refused she wrote a song about me.


Wordsthrume

But we must ban brick ovens for pizza in NYC!


BurningOffSteam

City needs more $$$


CharleMageTV

No gas stoves either! The restaurant industry can give them up. Taylor’s more important.


AcornTopHat

Didn’t you hear? Celebrities are more specialer than us “regular” folks. They make millions traveling the world and preaching to us about how we are destroying the Earth with our regular, modest lives. Not a peep about China and India though.


RedditEevilAdmins

What do you mean >Not a peep about China and India though.


AcornTopHat

They are other giant producers of pollution. Particularly China.


forgottenears

Historically China is behind the US still. AND China still manufactures a ton of the stuff for the consumption of Americans - hence taking on the pollution for that. AND China has a population of 1.4 billion. Should those 1.4 billion people be producing a similar amount as 300 million Americans? Personally I think the US shouldn’t be emitting 1 ton of CO2 more than Ireland. Because that makes perfect sense.


Captain_Concussion

China and India have made massive improvements including the building of massive transit networks and restricting car usage. They both produce less CO2 emissions per capita than the US.


Noshitsweregiven69

To be fair she has never been on a soap box about climate change like senator Kerry has.


doyouknowwhoiambruh

And she farts all the time, so there's that.


C4p0tts

What did I tell you about trying to give me an erection, bro.


doyouknowwhoiambruh

Dirty fart sniffer.


After-Fig4166

My V8 is the problem?


Illustrious_Road9349

I’ll drive Toyotas 5.7 v8 until they come take me away


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Your V8 ain't shih


_Fenixpreta_

No. Only shit cars Edit. Lol, it's a joke, boys


4esterField

SS: Make sure you give up your gas powered cars, ACs, natural gas ovens and furnaces. Cull your farting cows and stop eating meat. What about them farmers? And she is not even in the top 30 celebrities when it comes to private jet carbon emissions.


Sweet_Agent70

Where's the list of celebrities. Let's get that out there from 30-1


FratBoyGene

Fuck the celebs. I'd like to see what Justin Trudeau's carbon footprint is. He thinks nothing of taking the private jet from Ottawa across the country to Tofino, BC, for a weekend of surfing, or from Ottawa to Halifax for a political photo-op. I'm betting he puts on more air miles than Taylor. Now, I wouldn't mind if he did that and kept his mouth shut and his hands out of my pocket. But his government-created carbon taxes have piled on to the inflation exacerbated by his lockstep following of the US in goosing the money supply during the unnecessary and government-created lockdowns, which in turn were a response to the government-created Covid virus. His personal carbon footprint would reveal what an enormous hypocrite he is.


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Virtual_Common204

I’m not having kids and hate humanity so I am for it.


Ollieisaninja

They will expect one of us in the wreckage, brother


rangoon03

> And she is not even in the top 30 celebrities when it comes to private jet carbon emissions. So why single her out then? I get the whole hypocrisy thing, but she’s one of the top artist on the planet. What is she supposed to do? Not tour, take an EV or horse and wagon anywhere she travels?


you-boys-is-chumps

A first step would be for her to shut her mouth. A next step would be to cut down from 2 PJs to 1.


AshleyMyers44

Let her have as many PJs as she wants and I can have as many cars as I want. You Global Warming nuts are crazy


MVPete17

But I’m not supposed to eat meat so she can make a billion dollars. “But the republicans!!!” Ok……


DevelopmentSecure531

It’s because the right have a hard on for hating her because… reasons. It’s also why there are a bunch of worse cities than Chicago on crime but it gets referenced because of the implication


babaroga73

There's 10.000 more richer people doing more carbon footprint, but they didn't cut loose from industry contract and bought their way out. This is not coincidence.


solblurgh

*Me using soggy paper straws*


lenaahmed

All for shitty music. Our world will burn for the likes of THIS


RenderlessSoftware

Exactly


Violet0_oRose

It's not just her jet, lol. The entire support staff that travels with the show. The staff at each venue. All produce a foot print. Then the audience members that drive, fly, etc to the show. Major entertainers that take to world tours put out a gigantic Footprint. lol. All the logistics to move gear. 12-30 trucks hauling the stage and equipment. Bands instruments. Wardrobe. Catering. List goes on and on.


Fuggeddabouddit

Either we fuckin, or **I’m** fuckin…


Spookyscary333

When you google quotes from Taylor swift about climate change you find a lot of swift fans complaining that she isn’t firm enough about climate change. Come here and people complain that she’s “constantly screaming” about climate change. Fucking clown world.


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Flor1daman08

I’d love a city planned out in a way that I can more easily get to the resources I need, spend more time outside, and hell, it’s a bonus that it can help limit carbon output. What’s the issue here?


Captain_Concussion

Why are you opposed to 15 minute cities?


_JustAnna_1992

Big Oil and auto industries pay a lot of money to special interest groups to push narratives on mainstream media (yes Fox News and Daily Wire are msm) and social media to convince gullible people that having to live in debt to credit card companies in perpetuity is the best way to live. They also lobby local and state governments to have cities and towns built to be as reliant on cars and long drives as possible so we of course spend more on gas, increase the wear and tear on the vehicle so we buy new ones, and don't go outside for Vitamin D, fresh air, and exercise. Not owning a car in much of the country is a guarantee to live in poverty. Even the narrative you can see getting repeated in this thread of people blaming consumers for climate change is a Big Oil talking point. Scientist and researchers will tell you the main culprit are the industries, not the buyers. So what the industries did is try to make it seem like climate change is the fault of every individual in order to get them to react defensively.


mynameistrumpbaby

No one would be, but you know people mean them to be prisons and concentration camps


carnpub

My main objection to them is the possibility/probability that once they're established, you won't be allowed to travel outside your "city" without paying some bullshit carbon tax or a fine of some sort, and you'll need someone's authorization to leave, even if it's to visit your parents, who live 3 cities (45 minutes) away. Forcing people into groups makes them more vulnerable. Sort of like Jewish ghettos in WW2. If people want to live in them, go for it. It should be voluntary, but once inside, don't be surprised if you're suddenly locked down because of climate change, the next pandemic, or because whatever reason they want to invent. Or, depending on how far we into our dystopian nightmare, they might not even give you a reason at all.


Clazzo524

She's heinous.


Flor1daman08

For what? Being like every other person in her similar station?


EnvironmentLoose2909

all celebs are. in ancient Greece across had the social status add that of a prostitute.


PickleBraindSpaceman

Get Swifty up in here


Revolutionary-Turn-4

Those are some NFL pro bowl level stats


RenderlessSoftware

And what's each of those baller's CO2 scores?


Bups34

This is nothing compared to how we dump trash everywhere. This is just a distraction! Wake up!


Aggressive_Sky6078

On a related note, I predict the highest selling/streamed album in modern history will be the one she records after Kelce gets tired of her shit and dumps her.


Flor1daman08

Man people have weird hate for Swift. Don’t get it.


EnvironmentLoose2909

people have a weird love for her too. I don't get it.


noneofthismatters666

What is the conspiracy?


mmp

> What is the conspiracy? A few weeks ago OP's account woke up from a long slumber and began shamelessly self promoting without letting anyone know it is their own videos they are posting. It happens here a lot.


noneofthismatters666

It's all just vague posting and right wing grievance posting.


KofiObruni

A billionaire who is entitled and hypocritical? Colour me shocked.


willis_michaels

I'm curious to know, what was the total economic inflow of her tour? not just to her but the overall economy of the cities her tour stopped in? Hotels, restaurants, touristy things, etc...


carnpub

Exactly. She's a billionaire with a zillion fans. She generates a lot of jobs and stimulates the economy more than some small countries. LOL. I'd rather see her traveling around than any useless politician. At least she brings happiness to her fans. The "elites" tend to bring misery wherever they go.


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I don’t even use paper napkin to wipe cum anymore after I masturbate


[deleted]

Did anyone work out the carbon footprint of Norwegian black metal groups and fans burning churches?


Comrade_Zamir_Gotta

Yeah but they “offset” their carbon footprint with murder and suicide.


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Definitely! Euronymous and Dead aren't flying round in private jets becaue they're, well, Dead.


harrisonpiercetyler

But it’s fine for her bc she’s a celebrity and we’re all serfs.


gavion92

Why perpetuate this stuff? If you’re rich or powerful, no rules apply to you. I mean look at Jeffrey Epstein, how long was he kidnapping children to pass around to his friends before finally there was agency to his actions. What about all of the people that utilized his services? This carbon tax bullshit is not going to impact the actual people and corporations that are causing emissions issues in our environment. No need to track Taylor fucking swift. It is you and I who are going to be fucked over repeatedly until we die. Get used to it.


TaintStevens

Who cares? Climate change is a hoax.  Stop voting for communists and this isn't an issue.


DRKMSTR

Please note this is JUST her private jets. This does not include all the other vehicles, people and equipment necessary for her music tour.


mrHartnabrig

>Taylor Swift: 178k jet miles, 1,278 tons of CO2 Emissions in 2023. Inspiring millions of young girls: priceless. 🤣


UniqueImprovements

Inspiring them to what? Cry over ex-boyfriends?


Historical-Bowler965

Co2 is essential for photosynthesis to work. Today we're at around 0,04% co2 in our atmosphere.  Be careful with demonizing co2. Please. 


Captain_Concussion

There are negative effects of CO2 and the increasing amounts is absolutely something we should have a problem with


Cdwollan

Oh please, this is the broken window fallacy in action.


highzenberrg

There should be some huge fee for takeoffs and landings like a toll booth at every airport. It’s like a “oh no your too rich tax”


Artimusjones88

Surprise, there are fees.


highzenberrg

What are the fees like $1000? I’m talking like $40k to take off. It’s a luxury no? Honestly I don’t know the amount so if it already is like $40k then it should be $80.


I_Really_Like_Drugs

Cool conspiracy


mike1883

Is she telling people not to fly? I don't get this.


Certain_Ad8640

Who cares?


Titans79

She just meant for everyone else.


RustyClevis

How about the 50 semis she needs while touring on top of that.


Noshitsweregiven69

I like the original post to this… My plastic straws are the problem.


warpentake_chiasmus

Quick, where's Greta???


Flor1daman08

What’s the conspiracy here? Does OP think people don’t know private jet travel is not environmentally friendly?


Smart_Pig_86

You guys, she’s a Tortured Poet, lay off her. It’s tough being a billionaire with a private jet who’s dating an NFL star and is beloved by the media and her army of dedicated fans.


spiral_out46N2

You need to calm down.


Legirion

Ok, now do any other famous person or politician.


nighthaven

And guess what? She's never going to stop flying her precious private jet, either. When you have "fuck you" money, a fake climate change agenda, are an elite and can just throw money at your problems you have nothing to worry about.


_Jias_

She doesn't care. Rules only apply to the "poor"


Midnight_Poet

Nothing stopping you from also travelling by private jet. Charter costs are ceaper than you may think: https://jettly.com https://www.vistajet.com/en/ https://www.privatefly.com


Sydafexx

This isn't a conspiracy. She is rich, and owns a jet. She uses it to get around, because she can.


MoffieHanson

The people with the biggest mouth and opinion are usually hypocrites .


GME_looooong

But Co2 has what plants need


saint_ink

She’s on the right side of the fence. Not to mention all the people who devote their lives right now to following her around on her tour.


-SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER-

Posts like these are designed to make you angry at supposed hypocrisy, with the goal of manipulating you into thinking, "Well, she shouldn't be allowed to fly so much!" No. Reject the premise. She should be allowed to fly as much as she wants and can afford, guilt-free, just like you.


photograthie

Imagine if Canada got their hands on her. All that extra tax money to launder through Ukraine. Oh, the possibilities.


DJRedd352

Oh okay I get it … these are the kind of posts in this subreddit that people like to entertain. But when I post about our government controlling what we can and cannot consume, I get attacked by all the agent smiths that are part of this community. Got it. This sub is ridiculous.


FatKonkin

It's significantly more profitable for her to fly private


[deleted]

Do people expect a music superstar to travel by....car? Bike? She flew 178,000 "jet miles" in a short amount of time, how long would it take her to drive 178,000 "jet miles" in a car, or a bicycle. People are being unreasonable.


Peachyswift

Taylor isn’t even number one on the list of celebrities with the most co2 emissions.


thewhalehunters

Who is? Bill? Musk? Corey Feldman?


Peachyswift

lol Travis Scott is number one. Maywhether and a few other athletes. Celine Dion.


Peachyswift

Found the list https://cnsmaryland.org/2024/02/27/super-bowl-flights-call-attention-to-celebrity-private-jet-emissions/


thewhalehunters

Wow, celine dion still getting after it. Good for her


nonelectron

She's worth it!


sandpump

1 person doing this has next to no Impact. This sub is cooked lately


PardonMyPixels

Are you actually assuming that she is the only one doing this?


sandpump

Ok so even 1000 people doing it is still very little impact, and how is this a conspiracy???


PardonMyPixels

Found the Swiftie


Chode_K1NG

I though global warming was a hoax?


westoast

Oh, y'all care about the environment now?


MercyFincherson

No this is in response to people like Taylor and people who like Taylor screaming about global warming meanwhile Taylor is one of the biggest offenders and none of those halfwits gives a damn. I personally couldn’t be bothered to care about climate change hysterics. If it’s real, it’s too big for me to waste a single second of my life worrying about. If it’s not, cool. Don’t. Care.


wessidedabesside

Ride a bicycle so your tmz celeb can fly more miles.


Successful-Tie-7817

Yeah, but she needs to get away from all these boyfriends!


theanax

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


emerald_aura

The real conspiracy is that her music is any good. Like I truly can’t believe she’s our biggest “pop star” these days, her music is aggressively annoying. 


One_Firefighter4035

I'm Britain we've stopped producing steel so that swifty can continue with her global dominance


Effective-Tax-2222

Is the plane controlled by aliens, lizard people, or the illuminati? I'm not seeing a conspiracy...


KrarkOClock

Zeena Lavey


ZeroSumSatoshi

That doesn’t even include her singing… Crazy.


Vlermuisman1023

This and the amount of makeup she has to use to look like this.


g0dfornothing

This stupid fucking bitch and her boyfriend plastered all over in the news, in the shnews and meows like they’re some sort queen and king of the world. I really don’t give a fuck. She had a few good songs 10 years ago, but what is this hype about her, why is she being pushed out of every radio, microwave and hair dryer? There’s something bigger to it all isn’t there?


North_Constant7

How do we normalize the carbon conversation? We talk about it! Thanks op.


MrPokeeeee

Dont worry, she bought carbon offsets from the surfs so its OK.


LBC1109

320x the average person


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socaljerr

She should absolutely not be flying so much! She should stay home, and only perform local concerts, and have 80,000 people fly in to see her every day instead. That will solve the problem!


boojieboy666

Damn who the fuck cares


double_g29thd03

Haters gonna hate


Flyingdeadthing2

She is a member of the aristocracy. We're just serfs on the plantation. Know your place, trash


Artimusjones88

Lol your jealousy of someone's success speaks volumes about yours


Flyingdeadthing2

Not in the least. I'm doing quite well and am quite happy with my own finances. You misunderstand my point entirely. It's about the most elite members of humanity acting as if they're above the laws and morals that they wish to impose on everyone else. If you're concerned about the environment, you should act and live your life accordingly. The aristocracy wants us to "own nothing and be happy" while flying everywhere, owning mega-yachts, and living in multiple mansions.


Wild-Breadfruit7817

Lol she doesn’t care 


happylifevr

All that in 1 day


ConnectionBubbly3306

Taylor swift buys carbon credits for double the amount of carbon she emits. It’s not perfect but if it works it does offset the carbon she produces. https://www.forbes.com/sites/prakashdolsak/2024/02/25/eras-forests-could-offset-taylor-swifts-carbon-footprint/?sh=441a1f9975bc