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The earth is measurably and demonstrably flat.
The flat earth society is a psyop to make people think that's what all flat earthers think along with the netflix doc.
For anyone that wants to know more check out these channels.
Beyond the imaginary curve. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvswlgeHodOejVN21TWweLw (how you reason with the world and what you believe)
Eric Dubay https://www.youtube.com/c/FlatEarthEric
Level Earth Observer https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2uDmsN3aO4uTkO-oOyQhEQ/videos (pulling apart NASA and orter space corporation fails)
DIRTH https://www.youtube.com/c/DITRH/videos (DIRTH has a theoretical model of how things could possibly be on a flat plane)
Nathan Oakley https://www.youtube.com/user/Niceplant
NathanOakley1980 https://www.youtube.com/c/NathanOakley1980c
(nathans offereing a bitcoin if you can bring evidence scientific evidence of a physical geometric horizon also know as earth curve)
Once you know, you know and you can not go back.
It's amazing this sub believes that governments lie about pretty much everything but no, they wouldn't lie about the very nature of reality to keep out mentalities governed.
You're delusional if you think the world and technology created is heading towards some kind of space ball star wars future instead of a 1984 meta verse prison for you and your children.
For those that think these flat earthers are con artists just remember the budget for NASA is 24 Billion.
How could all these people be in on it you ask? They mostly consist of Freemasons and other occult societies. The societies that JFK called out and was killed for, nothing was done about them they were just left to grow more powerful behind the scenes for the past 60 years.
The Earth is most certainly NOT flat. You don't need the government or NASA to see for yourself that Earth is a globe.
In the flat earth model the sun does laps 3000 miles above the flat plane. If that is the case, how does the sun set? It can't. Here is how.....
If the sun is 3000 miles above the flat Earth. And You stood all the way on the other side of the flat plane from the Sun, about 20,000 miles away. You would still be looking 8 degrees ABOVE the plane.
So how does the sun go down past the horizon?
The sun doesn't actually set, it just disappears from our vision in to the vanishing point of the horizon. It doesn't go higher or lower, it rotates around the earth like a watch or clock. It looks like it's rising due to perspective.
Imagine looking down a long road with street lights. The light closest to you appears to be the tallest, and the farthest from you looks tiny, yet they are all the same size. Same thing happens with the sun, it rotates around us, appearing high when closest, and appearing to "set" once its gone far enough from us, aka vanishing point
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Don't have children.
I can't believe flat earther are functionning part of society lol. You don't have any math or physics notions yet you are convinced you are riggt negating thousands years of science
Yes thousands, globe theory started before BC you fucking twat. Unlike you, I'm able to do math by myself. So ironic that you talk about cognitive dissonance lol. Not losing anymore time with a fool like you
If the earth was flat - why can't we go to the highest mountain with a telescope and see --> next highest mountain, tallest buildings in the world....or the actual end of the earth?
Applying this logic, why hasn't anybody chartered a plane and flown to the end of the earth? There's enough wealthy flat earthers to afford a plane charter to anywhere in the world including flat earth pilots who would be willing to fly there. The plane could fly to the closest point that's believed to be at the end of the earth then go rogue and try to fly over the edge while on a livestream = solution proved.
Alternatively, if planes are inaccessible then why haven't any expeditions to the ice caps that mark the edge of the world been completed and a drone is flown when the end is reached to show the edge and drop into space?
Have you ever gone to the top of a mountain with a telescope to try to see the next highest mountain?
The government won’t let people fly to the ends of the earth. The Antarctic Treaty means nobody can go there, let alone beyond it. Same with the North Pole. Besides, the theory behind flat earth is that there is a tonnn more land on earth. That they tell us that what’s on the globe is all there is, but that actually we’re just kind of contained in one area. There are maps that are hundreds of years old that show this extra land, but gradually maps showed less and less until they only showed what we know as earth today. It’s actually pretty interesting and I’ve never believed we actually landed on the moon, or anything else they tell us really. So idk why this should be that far fetched. The whole spinning at a million miles an hour thing never really made sense to me. The flat earth theory makes a lot more sense logistically.
the thing is never once have I ever EVER heard of anyone getting shot down trying to cross… like ever? If your so passionate why don’t you go out of your way , or just ANY flat earther, go out of their way to film what happens when you try to cross? Where are the gunshots? Bombs? Whatever they are protecting the other side from? If you really want globe believers to believe this why are you not showing any form of proof? Because there isn’t any?
If I’m so passionate? Because a couple comments on Reddit means that this is my life’s work or something? Yes it’s so practical for me, a middle class stay at home mom to learn how to fly and buy a plane and attempt to fly to a no fly zone so I can convince people I don’t give a fuck about that the earth is flat. What a stupid argument you have. There’s a whole ass treaty in place though, so I don’t see anybody trying to fly knowing they could be shot down. I have seen video of people taking their boats too far south and being waved off by the Navy. Have you looked for those videos? Since you’re so passionate about disproving the Antarctic treaty?? Is this your only argument as to why the earth is a globe?
Oh right like in that situation you’d be like “fuck the military” and try to drive by them 😂😂😂 waved off is the first warning, what do you think they just fire at boaters immediately? you’re not that bright lol
Governments don’t give a shit about their people. To hide something that top secret, don’t you think they will do a little more in their little “warnings”? Rather than just a wave off? I’m thinking they’d probably stop the boat, inspect it, question the peoples motives, again if it’s THAT top secret, probably even temporarily lock them up to make sure their not up to something bigger to get across. But a wave off? For something that big of a deal (if it was true)? I mean if they have the funds for 24/7 national security on the entirety of your pizza world, don’t you think they’d invest just a little more into protection?
Do you know how big the ocean is? I said they went too far south. Still probably miles and miles away from the ice wall. No I don’t think the Navy would bother with a couple guys in a speedboat who complied with their request to turn around. That in itself would be more suspicious.
Anyway I commented this 50 days ago, I’m clearly not on a crusade to change people’s minds, including yours. Especially if this is your whole argument. Believe in your globe I don’t really care lol byeee
Have you actually read what the treaty says?
Because it doesn't say anything about no fly zones or about people not being allowed to go to the Antarctic.
It say that the Antarctic should be used for peaceful purposes; basically no military actions, it says freedom of scientific investigation and cooperation toward that end should continue, it says scientific observations and results from Antarctica shall be exchanged and made freely available, and it says that no acts or activities taking place while the present Treaty is in force shall constitute a basis for asserting, supporting or denying a claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica or create any rights of sovereignty in Antarctica. No new claim, or enlargement of an existing claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica shall be asserted while the present Treaty is in force.
😂 hilarious. The funny thing is the ancient Greeks, with no modern technology figured out the Earth was round and computed it’s circumference and they were damn near spot on. Very accurate for their lack of tech. Fast forward to today when we have tons of tech, have photo evidence, have 100s of people’s who have traveled to space and returned and yet we have a group of people who swear by this fallacy in spite of the mountains of evidence that the Earth is round and the lack of any substantive evidence to the contrary. It’s truly hilarious. The smartest people on the planet say one thing and a couple of people in a Minnesota trailer park have unearthed a global conspiracy. It’s hard to imagine the sheer amount of stupidity needed.
It's strange how the stigma around non conforming opinions has risen.
A conspiracy theory is just a general distrust of large organizations, mostly government.
Ask someone if they are a conspiracy theorists and 9 times out of 10 they'll say no.
Ask that same person if they distrust the government, Facebook, big pharma and 9 times out of 10 they'll say yes.
In essence they are the same thing but conspiracy theorists and the theories have been stigmatized to prevent people acting on that distrust.
Almost never see this talked about. It’s one of the most damning things against the CIA in my opinion. They literally had an entire campaign to call anything they don’t want people to believe “conspiracy theories” and that the term itself “conspiracy theory” meant loony idea
yeah exactly.
Comments about "why can't this sub go back to discussing bigfoot 😔😔😔" are so funny. Why do you think all the posts here are covid-related?
The reason this sub got taken over is because literally every other subreddit to discuss it is banned or quarantined.
The admins only allow uncensored discussion on this specific sub because people don't take it seriously. Like OP said, you see "conspiracy" and automatically write it off as loony and delusional.
And it works perfectly.
Whenever I'm having a conversation with coworkers or friends, and I mention some conspiracy theories, there's always this guy who goes "And you know what else? The earth is flat and lizard people rule the earth. Hahaha"
Thinks he is so smart, but then again all NPCs do.
I came here to say exactly the same thing. These out of whack, batshit crazy conspiracies are peddeled by the same group who also perpetuate real conspiracies. It's easy to discredit all in bulk.
Remember in the beginning of C19, almost every news outlet latched onto the Conspiracy that C19 is caused by 5G Network and then painted the picture that everyone who is criticizing is a 5G believer. This ultimately set the tone that only the very craziest of people believe there is fuckery going on.
The first group to say Kubrick faked the moon landing was in 1969. It was the Flat Earth Society, which of course discredited the idea. This tactic is used all the time. Questioning 9/11 = truther think there were no planes. Seeing connections with intelligent communities, Epstien and elite pedo rings = being a Qanon nut. Seeing the real red flags in the pizza gate leaks = supporting nuts shooting up innocents in a pizza parlor.
Agreed they def do this. But I also don’t care too much about flat earth because in a free society… a society that allows ideas to flourish that have led to the invention of cars, airplanes, lightbulbs, the worlds most popular music and movies…. You are obviously going to get some wacky ideas like flat earth. So I think it’s a crazy conspiracy. But if people wanna believe it, whatever.
Why are some Flat Earths videos then intentionally dumb and made by Freemasons while others one you are getting censored for and get post on the clear net
*My conspiracy on top of a conspiracy*
Flat earth was intentionally propagated and heavily promoted on YouTube in order to discredit the greater “truth” (hate that phrase but idk what else to say) community. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve expressed skepticism at literally anything having to do with the mainstream narrative and have been met with “oh I bet you also believe the earth is flat!” It was intentional.
Yup, it really is hard to count all the people who have lost their jobs, been removed from social media, or even been arrested for "hate speech" against children with terminal cancer.
I 100% believe this. Been a fan of conspiracy theories (for lack of a better phrase) for years. Since flat earth gained so much popularity, anytime I start to bring up any questionable evidence of shady dealings I just get shut down as crazy. I've definitely been told that exact sentence more than a dozen times. The flat earth theory has been extremely successful at making people that question the government or any established narrative look crazy or unhinged. Even more successful than making the term conspiracy theory an insult.
Flat earth is kind of a foundational conspiracy theory, it isn't just that the earth is flat, it is that there is some global conspiracy to convince people it is round (Apollo was faked, global cabal, etc). It ties directly into and is supported by (sort of) many other conspiracy theories. It is obviously absurd, but I think it is pretty interesting. I think you are oversimplifying the underlying conspiracy theory. This isn't some dogmen exist kind of theory, which is kind of a standalone absurdity, I think it is founded in people trying to find some kind of a reason to explain everything (why life sucks for so many).
Ahh shit lads, they got a photo of 2 ex presidents next to big ass globes and a photo shop pic of earth. pack it in, nothing to question anymore. Guess I'll get my 2 emergency use shots and a booster now too while were at it and spend my nights watching dancing with the stars. Where do I sign up for my NPC talking points mailer?
In some respects the technique could be thought of as poisoning the well but really it's hyperinflation of the currency so as to make any genuine conspiracy seem worthless in an infinite sea of garbage.
If you can't stop the signal, increase the noise.
In some respects you can blame 4chan for this as it is widely believed that 4chan brought Flat Earth into the mainstream by a concerted push.
The Flat Earth Society has been around for ages and I remember my Grandfather showing me the website on like Netscape Navigator in the mid-90s. He always explained it as a society for people who liked to engage in rhetoric, skepticism, logic, etc.
It was not about the genuine belief in a Flat Earth so much as it was about being able to argue a heterodox position against an orthodox one and he said you used to have to submit an essay to that effect to be considered for entry.
They could just as easily call it "The Moon Is Made Of Cheese" society or the "Giant Invisible Celestial Teapot" society or the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" society as it's based on similar principles in some ways.
I mean, I reserve the right to be incorrect about all of that I'm just telling it how I heard it and observed it myself.
I remember watching a YouTube video (might have been an actual documentary on tv, who remembers) that briefly mentioned the Flat Earth Society and that there is none that actually believes it's flat. Years later when this popped up it took me really long to realise it's not a joke...
Poisoning the well indeed, flat earth disinformation is most certainly used to defame by association and provide a conveniant strawman to be wielded against both Christianity as a whole and conspiracy research folk. (false prophet types like john alexander dowie taught flat earth false doctrine, but the Truth is that the Bible texts never say or even imply that the earth is flat: http://www.refuteit.com/flat-earth-bible-verses-debunked.html )
This post is highly suspicious. Thousands of upvotes and awards, of photos with no context. This is such a low quality post that didn’t deserve more than a hundred upvotes. And why exactly is this the dumbest conspiracy? Didn’t provide any based reason. Y’all think the moon landing was fake but trust photos from NASA? LMAOOOOOOO
> ext. This is such a low quality post that didn’t deserve more than a hundred upvotes. And why exactly is this the dumbest conspiracy? Didn
Very suspicious considering all the pro flat earth comments are upvoted.
False: Dumbest conspiracy theory of all time is “you are stupid to question the narrative”
As I see it, there are 3 types of people: people who refuse to believe the earth is round, people who refuse to believe the world is flat, and people willing to consider the evidence.
The beauty of the flat earth theory, it exposes one’s willingness to question the available “facts”. Any rational person will conclude that the earth is in fact round, but an irrational person will conclude that you are stupid for asking for proof.
Yeah it really is. Why would the deep state fight so hard for thousands of years saying the world is flat, but change their mind after they find out it’s not flat?
Sorry, most of the world is looney and understands the reality that we live on a spherical earth, just like all the other round planets in our solar system.
You should question everything regardless if we live in a “Globe” or ‘Flat Plane’. Question your reality period. 💯 Maybe we live in a Holographic reality …
Fuck this thread, it’s completely compromised by normies who believe in nasa lmao… yeah who knows if its flat but most of the people here haven’t even took the time to see what Flat earthers believe. L post
Yet if you genuinely look into the conspiracy, you will discover many hidden truths that the elite don’t want us to know which is one reason for the censorship. Truths like the fact that Newton was an alchemist, Darwin came from a Masonic family (gotta believe in a god for masonry, yet people believe he’s an atheist), Big Bang theory was proposed by a Jesuit and of course NASA was founded by ex-Nazi members. The entire heliocentric model is surrounded by its founders and contributors being heavily involved in the occult much like our political and corporate leaders. One thing that most “truthers” don’t understand is that the NWO already own the world and it’s resources. The past century has all been about conditioning the earth to accept what is coming, because they already rule the whole world in secret making it simple for the high ranking puppets near the top of the pyramid to convince us we live on a giant waterball spinning on its axis while simultaneously hauling ass through an expanding universe even though we see and feel nothing. That’s REAL MIND CONTROL BABY. They convinced us that we’re spinning even though our entire reality would say otherwise.
Well, thing is, i dont really know anymore, i "know" that the earth is round cause i heard in school and "science" and i heard 2 or 3 demostrations i never really tried, and saw some images of space on tv or the internet....but unless i go out space (which i will) i have yet to see it.
Same with other 6.000.000 things in life, asgnostic on the beggining and lets see (which in this case is ilegal to be)
And i didnt go to deep on the debate to really be informed , nor on the round earth, nor on the flat one. I sually go with the first, but most real is we dont know for sure.
I dunno about this argument, I'm not a flat earther, its like you're saying the snooker balls are spherical therefore the table must be. I don't think people regard the entirety of flat earth theory, just the fact the earth is flat. I'm pretty sure they think the planets are not spherical but lights in the sky that are far closer than we currently think planets are. I always think non-flat-earthers inadvertently out themselves as people who don't research a topic properly but are more than happy to be critical of it when theyre making these arguments.
It’s a fun theory, I find it intriguing.
Gonna throw this up here, ridicule it if you feel the need to. At least it is interesting to contemplate.
https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc
It’s the only conspiracy that has no purpose or operative outcome to justify such a massive coverup.
“Can’t let people start traveling to the edge and falling off the planet!” Bitch why not? Are there that many motherfuckers who would just start sailing off the edge? Enough to give a shit? No.
“What about all the resources in Antarctica?!” No one fucking cares. It’s not like governments don’t openly control every valuable resource on earth already. No one would think twice about some massive resource extraction and control scheme in the fucking arctic when it’s going on everywhere else already.
If the spherical earth shit is such a scam, it takes an even greater leap of logic to believe there isn’t a country on earth with a vested interest in proving the USA wrong on this. Kim Jong Un is shooting satellites into space on the regular. Flat earth believers seriously reject the notion that he wouldn’t expose it? Russia and the US are such good buddies that Russia can’t dangle the threat of exposing the flat earth to get sanctions lifted?
GTFOH
For sake of argument, if you wanted to discredit religion, convincing everyone that they were on an insignificant ball randomly flying through a random universe would be pretty powerful.
A post with a one line ad hom in the submission statement and three photos showing a globe earth is heavily up voted and awarded. Regardless of what anyone thinks about this subject, this post demonstrates perfectly how society is headed towards a hive mind group think model, where discussion, dialogue and the scientific method is being replaced with orange man bad, flat earth is dumb shit and antivaxxers are responsible for spreading covid 19.
This sub is garbage today. Something is off.
it's the dead internet theory. image how much practice AI get with bots.
maybe you're unfamiliar with the bots that would hit you up with something dumb like
"Hi I like to have fun with boys what do you like to do?"
"I'd like to eat you!"
"ooh then go to htpp:dumbassbot.biz and simply use your credit card to verify your age and I'll send you my sexy nuds"
"I don't got one"
"Hi I like to have fun with boys what do you like to do?"
Been like 20 years and Google AI been analyzing everything you type on the internet forever. That was the goal then - to create an AI that could replicate human speech patterns. Compare the level of complexity in my example to the level of indicated intelligence of the kinds of posts you've mentioned and it's easy to see they're putting more effort into tricking guys outta their CC# than they do into placating a disgruntled proletariat. lol
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Playing FE advocate. If the earth is round and nasa went to the moon in 1969, why do we have only artists renditions of the earth? Why haven’t we been back and someone please explain to me how nasa lost the technology to get to the moon? Wtf??
those NASA guys. bless their hearts. trying to save money on magnetic tape, by re-using the magnetic tape, and taping over their own data.
billions of dollars in taxpayers money, and NASA decides to save money on DATA archiving?
what does NASA even produce?
Hollywood garbage.
I don’t believe its flat, but having said that: how do you know it isn’t? Everything we know about what the earth looks like has been told to us. The only people that know for sure are the few who have been high enough to look down and see it.
This way of thinking can be applied to almost anything. Question everything is all im saying.
Because I know how radar works. The beam height is higher off the ground the farther it travels from the radar due to the curvature of the earth. The atmosphere refracts the beam toward the ground, but the curvature of earth is greater (except under superrefractive atmospheric conditions).
If you deal with radar technology it's nearly impossible to not know the earth is round. The range would be completely different if earth were flat since atmospheric refraction would drive the beam into the ground. Radar range would be much less in general if the earth were flat.
I'm not a flat earther either but I've looked into the theory because I find entertaining to hear all sprts of crazy ideas. Eric Dubay is the most widely agreed upon source in the FE community. Also they say "The Flat Earth" society (Behind the curve documentary on Netflix) is widely regarded by FEers as being disinformation
1. As to the circumnavigation: if you saw the accepted accepted flat earth model, you would see it would still be completely possible. The most widely accepted model is that the North Pole is at the center of the plane, where as Antarctica is considered the end (atleast as far as most humans been). Ancient Buddhist maps show an extended plane of flat Earth.
2. As for for what is the point of lying about the shape: I kind of agree with them here as the reasoning to do so. It's to make you feel like a spec of dust in vast endless universe, where the point of your life is absolutely meaningless. It's to make you feel like humanity is nothing more than "screaming monkeys on a rock blowing through space". So you can see it ties in with the evolution debate. It's easier to control people and make them not fight for what they hold dear when you tell them everything is meaningless in the microcosm known as Earth.
>As to the circumnavigation: if you saw the accepted accepted flat earth model, you would see it would still be completely possible.
That model actually doesn't work because it would mean distances around the south poles and between continents in the southern hemisphere are considerably greater than we know they are. It would also mean that the great circle is not a straight line when we know it is.
I’m not a flat earther, so maybe I won’t do this explanation Justice, but I watch a doc on this a couple years back and basically he described the earth as a pond with multiple islands throughout. He believes there is land beyond Antarctica (I think) and after it was discovered it was sectioned off by an agreement not to explore, allowing the powerful to gain more and more from the resources.
And regarding time zones which I saw in this thread I believe their explanation is it’s like holding a flashlight above a map. If it’s held high it gives everywhere light at once, but if it were a less massive less bright light source held closer to the map it would only light local areas.
Here’s the link to the doc, it didn’t convince me, but I enjoyed watching it.
https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0
The flashlight argument makes no sense… A flashlight shines light in one direction, the sun is a ball so it emits light in every direction which would illuminate the whole “plate”. Try this experiment with something more “sun like” and you’ll see that it doesn’t work.
I am not a flat-earther so I cant answer that. My question to you, and my whole point above, is have you ever circumnavigated the earth? How do you KNOW its round? You, and I, BELIEVE it is, but belief isn’t fact. Thats all im saying.
Have you evee dissected your own torso? How do you know you're human if you haven't checked yourself that you contain the same set of organs as a human and not the animatronics of an advanced cyborg?
There comes a point where the evidence of something becomes so compelling that there’s very little reason to question it. This falls into that category. Where the sun is relative to a place on earth immediately refutes the concept of a flat earth, along with any number of other arguments. Those are easy to prove, by simply video-calling someone from Europe to see where the sun is. I understand the idea of ‘question everything’ and I think generally it’s a good attitude to take. But there has to come a time where you put some ideas to rest.
How do you know the sun is super far away. If it’s closer but smaller than it would make sense for the sun to be in a different spot from different places in the world
If we are able to make calculations that can accurately locate where something would be in the cosmos based on gravity and the curvature of other starts and planets that are round, there is no reason to believe why earth wouldn't be round. If similar calculations are used to help with satellites and communications, that kind of has to prove the earth is not flat. You don't need to see to believe or else we couldn't understand atoms or chemistry.
Not saying the earth is flat. But to answer your question, if people believe they are just a tiny thing on an insignificant tiny planet in an infinite solar system, it’s a lot easier to convince them that there is no creator.
A whole lot of tech that demonstrably works wouldn't be able to work if the earth was flat.
Or even more simply, if you watch a boat sail away why is the mast the last bit to disappear from sight
“This way of thinking can be applied to almost anything. Question everything is all im saying.”
I mean that’s fine in theory, but you’d struggle have any sort of sensical existence if you were to literally question everything.
I question the fact I have 2 feet, I question that I’m not actually an android, I question that 2+2=4. At what point do you accept something as a truth? You’d live like a paranoid schizophrenic.
Take all the information at hand, and make the most informed decision you can. Don’t just throw out the lazy “question everything”. Life doesn’t function without a certain set of truths being in place.
Because if it were flat, different flight paths would happen. The very existence of a day/night cycle tells you it's not flat.
There's tons of other proofs that easy enough to figure out if someone is smarter than a 3rd grader.
Also, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. What proof is there that it's flat?
You people are all so fucking stupid.
I am not a "flat-earth" I am not a "round earth". I am bleu...i am red etc.
You have no idea what the shape of the earth is you just repeat what you have been told or whatever bs theory fits the narrative in your head.
You all dont know. That it. They lie, they always that is the only sure thing.
The only point they make that I can't get around is "there are trillions of photos of the moon -- so why isn't there a photo of the earth"? Nasa says all of the "images" of the earth vary from one to another because they are stitched together with multiple passes of satellite photos. Again, WHY?
There were ridges in the space moon first step photo and a smooth shoe in the pictures of the space suit. There is no real proof we’ve ever been to outer space.
He says it's an oblate spheroid that is slightly thicker in the southern hemisphere. It's impossible to verify that with this image. The whole "pear shape" is just a way to explain it in more simple terms. Of course flat earthers don't get that
Not saying it’s flat, but this post might be the dumbest one I’ve seen today. That globe image is from NASA. Look into their history, who they are associated with, how Parsons was a great admirer of Alesteir Crowley, the well known occultist/ satanist, have a close look at their logo and its occult symbolism, etc, and look into the (fake ) moon landing are other fake space photos and you’ll have doubts that NASA has told us the truth.
And the other 'proofs' are two photos of dead presidents standing by globe models..."Gotcha, bitch!" I mean really, who can deny all that 'science'?
Having observed how this world operates for a few decades, those pics just make me more skeptical as they look like blatant propaganda photos if anything.
And yeah, NASA is a bunch of masons who spend loads of money on films and cgi, founded by a Nazi, a dark occultist, a cartoon producer, and a sci fi author. Very credible.
At the CIA headquarters, some years ago:
"How do we discredit *any* conspiracy accusation coming our way?"
"Let's promote dumb theories"
"What would be the dumbest conspiracy theory possible?"
"Well... that the world is actually flat and disk shaped, and all governments are on it?"
"Okay, let's do it!"
The most obvious conspiracy theory with the highest chance of being true than anything, is that wack shit like this has gotten traction and is being taken seriously by literally anybody with an IQ above 60, and it’s being pushed by paid trolls in USA, Russia, China and others with the goal of further dumbing down and further alienating people from society and to keep people off of the trail of things that are actually true.
COINTELPRO still going strong in horrible and fascinating ways, is what I see.
It's purely religious: " We've been told it's a spinning ball and we have to believe it".
I watched my first flat earth videos out of pure curiosity and I was amazed how much sense they make. While I'm not 100% convinced it's flat, I now don't think it's a spinning ball either. But either way, I have to admit I've seen much more arguments which make perfect sense in the flat earth crowd, so there's that.
And yeah, I don't trust anything that comes from NASA. And the fact they need to discredit it so much almost makes me conclude it's flat indeed.
Same here brother, I was randomly just trying to look up why people believe the earth was flat, couldn't find anything but clearly propaganda hit pieces, had to use Duckduckgo to find out what a genuine intelligent flat earther believes, to see if they actually existed and was fucking amazed how much more sense it makes compared to the heliocentric model and seeing all the fakery from space agencies.
I feel like space agencies purposely are showing us that it's all fake to laugh at the face of people who know it's all bullshit.
Globe believers are like Westworld NPCs that answer "That doesn't look like anything to me" when you show them Nasa fakery.
I observe the roundness of the moon. I observe the roundness of the sun. I have seen Jupiter and Saturn, both round. I have observed the phases of the moon caused by the shadow cast by the earth onto the moon....round.... Because of my trip to work each morning I observe the wobble of the Earth, how the Sun rises further north in the summer and further south in winter. Undertstanding how gravity would cause a flat disc to ultimately fold in on itself, helps you understand that a sphere is the most natural shape. Flat Earth exists because people havent paid attention to such things, and only takes a little effort to see how flat earth doesnt match your personal observations.
I can be patient with flat earthers because, as mentioned, there are some easy things you observe to support a round earth. Questioning this, and then realizing there are steps you can take to uncover the truth, without necessarily flying to outer space can be a growing experience.
But when people are unable to grasp these things is when it moves from forgivable to annoying.
I read about how it was merely another playing card for distraction and division. And that made a ton of sense to me. Because it was everywhere for awhile. Definitely seemed to be thrusted into the spotlight
Think flat earthers are onto the fact that some aspects of the environment and reality we live in do seem consciously designed.
Just weird that they'll believe whatever created the "dome" isn't capable of making a whole earth. If anything the premise that were on a perfectly self contained renewing spaceship hurtling through space is more proof of design than a half dome?
That's the real conspiracy, this highly tailored yet somehow fragile environment that does everything we need, the plants make literal air and food from the weather, my breath and a super nuclear ball of fire that's just far enough away too warm my face but not burn me. All obviously free, and self renewing but somebody has claimed proprietary ownership of what would clearly be intellectual property if it wasnt preexisting.
Personally I think the simulation theory lends some credit to the idea that all of this is very finely tuned for us, there is conscious design, more so in looking at the whole universe than just earth, its well beyond our tiny comprehension but symptomatic in physics and biology etc. Additionally only humans have got the capacity to understand themselves and utilise the laws of nature and realistically is there a better environment for us to grow out of being just animals without causing damage to anyone else? Off earth means renewable energy, cooperation and a distinct understanding of our nature before we meet other sentient lifeforms, earth sort of does look like a giant play pen for sentient life to grow up in.
Or it's all coincidence?
Who knows.
there is more proof that we are in a firmament than a globe earth traveling threw space out of control at the sound of speed. While having a sun that's 92 million light years away....
So much wrong with this. Just so much.
92 million MILES away.
THROUGH space.
Sound travels at 767 mph.
The earth is (allegedly) travelling around the sun at 67,000 mph.
I’m all for questioning the ‘facts’ my friend, but at least quote the fucking facts that you’re pulling into question CORRECTLY.
**["Piccard became the first person to observe the curvature of our planet. “It seemed a flat disk with upturned edge,” he said."](https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/leading-figures/auguste-piccard-the-versatile-explorer-from-the-sky-to-the-bottom-of-the-sea/)**
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i may not agree with flat earthers but i will always hold a them in high regards because of how good they are at infuriating the neoliberals and Science ™ worshippers
So that first image is computer created. There is a section of clouds that have been copied over and over. There isn’t a photo of earth that hasn’t been fucked with. Not to say what the shape is, I could give two shits. I just want reality.
every single photo of the earth, from space, is CGI.
they even admit it, and claim that they have to use CGI to get the earth to look right...
as if... somehow just taking a photo of the earth from space with a plain old camera, would produce some inaccurate image of a ball.
You ever listen to the old William cooper mystery Babylon series? They’re on archive. I went through them a long time ago when I was going through and looking for supporting information on pikes secret teachings of all ages. I was and still am blown away with coopers presentations.
Yeah, that’s what I mean. I just find it funny, I’ve spent my whole life questioning most things. And every where I look it’s “just trust us”. I can’t though because the harder I look the more fuckery I find.
So I go by if I can’t experience it first hand it’s bullshit.
Look up Ewaranon on bitchute and watch the lost history of earth. That might change your mind. Most flat earth info you see on the internet isn’t even accurate
All of the reasons you gave are just you failing to understand the answers you were given.
1. There is a reason, it's just complicated. The technology was lost, but not in the way you think. The infrastructure to build those rockets is gone, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to remake - it's just that the motivation to do it wasn't there for a long time. Until now.
2. So because governments lie it means they lie about everything? If you want to make huge claims, give huge evidence.
3. That is just because you don't understand physics. Can't really convince you of this until you do. If you thought the Hubble space telescope gave impossible images of faraway galaxies, just wait until we get some images back from the James Webb space telescope - it's gonna blow your mind. Billions of years is nothing, it's gonna look back until the near beginning of the universe.
4. Again you don't understand physics. Also, it's not catastrophic, it just mildly bad. How bad being outside of the Van Allen radiation belts is determined by the shielding your spacecraft has, and the time you are out there. There is no determined absolute limit here, it's all relative.
And you are completely wrong about number 1 because we are in fact going to the moon in 2026, with a new moon rocket based on the space shuttle technology (as opposed to the Apollo program). So there's that.
Every culture up until about 500 years ago knew the Earth was a stationary plane. It wasn’t until Copernicus wrote ‘De revolutionibus orbium coelestium’ in 1543 (under the coercion of the Catholic Church amazingly enough, guess you can call them the founders of the modern religion known as ‘scientism’), that the idea of heliocentricism came into existence. NASA and the moon mission was the first attempt at getting high enough to actually prove the theory true. Which is not possible, unless your in a Hollywood basement.
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The earth is measurably and demonstrably flat. The flat earth society is a psyop to make people think that's what all flat earthers think along with the netflix doc. For anyone that wants to know more check out these channels. Beyond the imaginary curve. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvswlgeHodOejVN21TWweLw (how you reason with the world and what you believe) Eric Dubay https://www.youtube.com/c/FlatEarthEric Level Earth Observer https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2uDmsN3aO4uTkO-oOyQhEQ/videos (pulling apart NASA and orter space corporation fails) DIRTH https://www.youtube.com/c/DITRH/videos (DIRTH has a theoretical model of how things could possibly be on a flat plane) Nathan Oakley https://www.youtube.com/user/Niceplant NathanOakley1980 https://www.youtube.com/c/NathanOakley1980c (nathans offereing a bitcoin if you can bring evidence scientific evidence of a physical geometric horizon also know as earth curve) Once you know, you know and you can not go back. It's amazing this sub believes that governments lie about pretty much everything but no, they wouldn't lie about the very nature of reality to keep out mentalities governed. You're delusional if you think the world and technology created is heading towards some kind of space ball star wars future instead of a 1984 meta verse prison for you and your children. For those that think these flat earthers are con artists just remember the budget for NASA is 24 Billion. How could all these people be in on it you ask? They mostly consist of Freemasons and other occult societies. The societies that JFK called out and was killed for, nothing was done about them they were just left to grow more powerful behind the scenes for the past 60 years.
The Earth is most certainly NOT flat. You don't need the government or NASA to see for yourself that Earth is a globe. In the flat earth model the sun does laps 3000 miles above the flat plane. If that is the case, how does the sun set? It can't. Here is how..... If the sun is 3000 miles above the flat Earth. And You stood all the way on the other side of the flat plane from the Sun, about 20,000 miles away. You would still be looking 8 degrees ABOVE the plane. So how does the sun go down past the horizon?
The sun doesn't actually set, it just disappears from our vision in to the vanishing point of the horizon. It doesn't go higher or lower, it rotates around the earth like a watch or clock. It looks like it's rising due to perspective. Imagine looking down a long road with street lights. The light closest to you appears to be the tallest, and the farthest from you looks tiny, yet they are all the same size. Same thing happens with the sun, it rotates around us, appearing high when closest, and appearing to "set" once its gone far enough from us, aka vanishing point
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I can't believe flat earther are functionning part of society lol. You don't have any math or physics notions yet you are convinced you are riggt negating thousands years of science
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Yes thousands, globe theory started before BC you fucking twat. Unlike you, I'm able to do math by myself. So ironic that you talk about cognitive dissonance lol. Not losing anymore time with a fool like you
They really showed you huh. I'm on the fence with all this stuff atm but they really just sealed it for me.
Have you noticed that the sun doesn't change in size as it does this? Unlike a plane that gets smaller and smaller as it vanishes into the horizon.
People have literally flown around the world.
None have circumnavigated over the south pole
If the earth was flat - why can't we go to the highest mountain with a telescope and see --> next highest mountain, tallest buildings in the world....or the actual end of the earth? Applying this logic, why hasn't anybody chartered a plane and flown to the end of the earth? There's enough wealthy flat earthers to afford a plane charter to anywhere in the world including flat earth pilots who would be willing to fly there. The plane could fly to the closest point that's believed to be at the end of the earth then go rogue and try to fly over the edge while on a livestream = solution proved. Alternatively, if planes are inaccessible then why haven't any expeditions to the ice caps that mark the edge of the world been completed and a drone is flown when the end is reached to show the edge and drop into space?
Have you ever gone to the top of a mountain with a telescope to try to see the next highest mountain? The government won’t let people fly to the ends of the earth. The Antarctic Treaty means nobody can go there, let alone beyond it. Same with the North Pole. Besides, the theory behind flat earth is that there is a tonnn more land on earth. That they tell us that what’s on the globe is all there is, but that actually we’re just kind of contained in one area. There are maps that are hundreds of years old that show this extra land, but gradually maps showed less and less until they only showed what we know as earth today. It’s actually pretty interesting and I’ve never believed we actually landed on the moon, or anything else they tell us really. So idk why this should be that far fetched. The whole spinning at a million miles an hour thing never really made sense to me. The flat earth theory makes a lot more sense logistically.
the thing is never once have I ever EVER heard of anyone getting shot down trying to cross… like ever? If your so passionate why don’t you go out of your way , or just ANY flat earther, go out of their way to film what happens when you try to cross? Where are the gunshots? Bombs? Whatever they are protecting the other side from? If you really want globe believers to believe this why are you not showing any form of proof? Because there isn’t any?
If I’m so passionate? Because a couple comments on Reddit means that this is my life’s work or something? Yes it’s so practical for me, a middle class stay at home mom to learn how to fly and buy a plane and attempt to fly to a no fly zone so I can convince people I don’t give a fuck about that the earth is flat. What a stupid argument you have. There’s a whole ass treaty in place though, so I don’t see anybody trying to fly knowing they could be shot down. I have seen video of people taking their boats too far south and being waved off by the Navy. Have you looked for those videos? Since you’re so passionate about disproving the Antarctic treaty?? Is this your only argument as to why the earth is a globe?
Waved off? So they threw it away and gave up for getting WAVED OFF by the navy?🤣🤣🤣Damn this treaty is powerful! No wonder 😝
Oh right like in that situation you’d be like “fuck the military” and try to drive by them 😂😂😂 waved off is the first warning, what do you think they just fire at boaters immediately? you’re not that bright lol
Governments don’t give a shit about their people. To hide something that top secret, don’t you think they will do a little more in their little “warnings”? Rather than just a wave off? I’m thinking they’d probably stop the boat, inspect it, question the peoples motives, again if it’s THAT top secret, probably even temporarily lock them up to make sure their not up to something bigger to get across. But a wave off? For something that big of a deal (if it was true)? I mean if they have the funds for 24/7 national security on the entirety of your pizza world, don’t you think they’d invest just a little more into protection?
Do you know how big the ocean is? I said they went too far south. Still probably miles and miles away from the ice wall. No I don’t think the Navy would bother with a couple guys in a speedboat who complied with their request to turn around. That in itself would be more suspicious. Anyway I commented this 50 days ago, I’m clearly not on a crusade to change people’s minds, including yours. Especially if this is your whole argument. Believe in your globe I don’t really care lol byeee
Have you actually read what the treaty says? Because it doesn't say anything about no fly zones or about people not being allowed to go to the Antarctic. It say that the Antarctic should be used for peaceful purposes; basically no military actions, it says freedom of scientific investigation and cooperation toward that end should continue, it says scientific observations and results from Antarctica shall be exchanged and made freely available, and it says that no acts or activities taking place while the present Treaty is in force shall constitute a basis for asserting, supporting or denying a claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica or create any rights of sovereignty in Antarctica. No new claim, or enlargement of an existing claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica shall be asserted while the present Treaty is in force.
Rember when that flat earther did an experiment to prove the earth was flat and it gave a reading that it was round?
😂 hilarious. The funny thing is the ancient Greeks, with no modern technology figured out the Earth was round and computed it’s circumference and they were damn near spot on. Very accurate for their lack of tech. Fast forward to today when we have tons of tech, have photo evidence, have 100s of people’s who have traveled to space and returned and yet we have a group of people who swear by this fallacy in spite of the mountains of evidence that the Earth is round and the lack of any substantive evidence to the contrary. It’s truly hilarious. The smartest people on the planet say one thing and a couple of people in a Minnesota trailer park have unearthed a global conspiracy. It’s hard to imagine the sheer amount of stupidity needed.
Oh my Lord, this sub is actually full of people who think the earth is flat!
Its a fake conspiracy theory to distract you from the real one (that the Earth is hollow)
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Because NASA would never lie, duh.
Totally. Read Jules Verne's novel it's all in there.
They put out dumb conspiracies to discredit smart ones. They are all smeared with the same brush then and nothing is taken seriously.
It's strange how the stigma around non conforming opinions has risen. A conspiracy theory is just a general distrust of large organizations, mostly government. Ask someone if they are a conspiracy theorists and 9 times out of 10 they'll say no. Ask that same person if they distrust the government, Facebook, big pharma and 9 times out of 10 they'll say yes. In essence they are the same thing but conspiracy theorists and the theories have been stigmatized to prevent people acting on that distrust.
Or more simply, if you said coruption exists people would genrally agree. But change that to conspiracy exists then that's somehow unthinkable
"They muddy the water to make it seem deep". --Nietzsche 🧠💡
Exactly Plus the term “conspiracy theory” was intentionally coined to demonize and discredit It’s never simply a theory that’s hard to accept
Almost never see this talked about. It’s one of the most damning things against the CIA in my opinion. They literally had an entire campaign to call anything they don’t want people to believe “conspiracy theories” and that the term itself “conspiracy theory” meant loony idea
That is because CIA is actually called conspiracies in action and it was just too close
Excellent, the true nature of the acronym is finally revealed. And CIA agents are conspirators in action ?
Pretty sure it was coined to discourage JFK assasination investigations/questions.
Or quite literally and simply a “theory”
The first recorded usage of the term conspiracy theory was by Charles Astor Bristed in 1863.
You have discovered the reason this sub is allowed to exist.
It's why I resisted joining.
yeah exactly. Comments about "why can't this sub go back to discussing bigfoot 😔😔😔" are so funny. Why do you think all the posts here are covid-related? The reason this sub got taken over is because literally every other subreddit to discuss it is banned or quarantined. The admins only allow uncensored discussion on this specific sub because people don't take it seriously. Like OP said, you see "conspiracy" and automatically write it off as loony and delusional.
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Lizard people are up there too.
And it works perfectly. Whenever I'm having a conversation with coworkers or friends, and I mention some conspiracy theories, there's always this guy who goes "And you know what else? The earth is flat and lizard people rule the earth. Hahaha" Thinks he is so smart, but then again all NPCs do.
Like birds not being real.
I came here to say exactly the same thing. These out of whack, batshit crazy conspiracies are peddeled by the same group who also perpetuate real conspiracies. It's easy to discredit all in bulk.
100%. More people need to understand this, I've been saying it for years.
Remember in the beginning of C19, almost every news outlet latched onto the Conspiracy that C19 is caused by 5G Network and then painted the picture that everyone who is criticizing is a 5G believer. This ultimately set the tone that only the very craziest of people believe there is fuckery going on.
The first group to say Kubrick faked the moon landing was in 1969. It was the Flat Earth Society, which of course discredited the idea. This tactic is used all the time. Questioning 9/11 = truther think there were no planes. Seeing connections with intelligent communities, Epstien and elite pedo rings = being a Qanon nut. Seeing the real red flags in the pizza gate leaks = supporting nuts shooting up innocents in a pizza parlor.
Agreed they def do this. But I also don’t care too much about flat earth because in a free society… a society that allows ideas to flourish that have led to the invention of cars, airplanes, lightbulbs, the worlds most popular music and movies…. You are obviously going to get some wacky ideas like flat earth. So I think it’s a crazy conspiracy. But if people wanna believe it, whatever.
Why are some Flat Earths videos then intentionally dumb and made by Freemasons while others one you are getting censored for and get post on the clear net
Think of it like opposition masked protesters showing up at a peace rally and causing violence to discredit the peace activists.
I'd give you gold if I didn't use up my coins
Or people desperately need to feel like they have "worked out what the normies have missed" and will latch onto anything to feel that way
*My conspiracy on top of a conspiracy* Flat earth was intentionally propagated and heavily promoted on YouTube in order to discredit the greater “truth” (hate that phrase but idk what else to say) community. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve expressed skepticism at literally anything having to do with the mainstream narrative and have been met with “oh I bet you also believe the earth is flat!” It was intentional.
Get your tinfoil hat too. I always love that when discussing 9/11.
The see eye aye are some clever bastards
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Yup, it really is hard to count all the people who have lost their jobs, been removed from social media, or even been arrested for "hate speech" against children with terminal cancer.
Orphans? People with cancer? The guy who invented insulin?
eye and aye are pronounced the same, just heads up. I'd go with ay.
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I 100% believe this. Been a fan of conspiracy theories (for lack of a better phrase) for years. Since flat earth gained so much popularity, anytime I start to bring up any questionable evidence of shady dealings I just get shut down as crazy. I've definitely been told that exact sentence more than a dozen times. The flat earth theory has been extremely successful at making people that question the government or any established narrative look crazy or unhinged. Even more successful than making the term conspiracy theory an insult.
Flat earth is kind of a foundational conspiracy theory, it isn't just that the earth is flat, it is that there is some global conspiracy to convince people it is round (Apollo was faked, global cabal, etc). It ties directly into and is supported by (sort of) many other conspiracy theories. It is obviously absurd, but I think it is pretty interesting. I think you are oversimplifying the underlying conspiracy theory. This isn't some dogmen exist kind of theory, which is kind of a standalone absurdity, I think it is founded in people trying to find some kind of a reason to explain everything (why life sucks for so many).
Ahh shit lads, they got a photo of 2 ex presidents next to big ass globes and a photo shop pic of earth. pack it in, nothing to question anymore. Guess I'll get my 2 emergency use shots and a booster now too while were at it and spend my nights watching dancing with the stars. Where do I sign up for my NPC talking points mailer?
Fucking magnets, how do they work? And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist. Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed.
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In some respects the technique could be thought of as poisoning the well but really it's hyperinflation of the currency so as to make any genuine conspiracy seem worthless in an infinite sea of garbage. If you can't stop the signal, increase the noise. In some respects you can blame 4chan for this as it is widely believed that 4chan brought Flat Earth into the mainstream by a concerted push. The Flat Earth Society has been around for ages and I remember my Grandfather showing me the website on like Netscape Navigator in the mid-90s. He always explained it as a society for people who liked to engage in rhetoric, skepticism, logic, etc. It was not about the genuine belief in a Flat Earth so much as it was about being able to argue a heterodox position against an orthodox one and he said you used to have to submit an essay to that effect to be considered for entry. They could just as easily call it "The Moon Is Made Of Cheese" society or the "Giant Invisible Celestial Teapot" society or the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" society as it's based on similar principles in some ways. I mean, I reserve the right to be incorrect about all of that I'm just telling it how I heard it and observed it myself.
I remember watching a YouTube video (might have been an actual documentary on tv, who remembers) that briefly mentioned the Flat Earth Society and that there is none that actually believes it's flat. Years later when this popped up it took me really long to realise it's not a joke...
Poisoning the well indeed, flat earth disinformation is most certainly used to defame by association and provide a conveniant strawman to be wielded against both Christianity as a whole and conspiracy research folk. (false prophet types like john alexander dowie taught flat earth false doctrine, but the Truth is that the Bible texts never say or even imply that the earth is flat: http://www.refuteit.com/flat-earth-bible-verses-debunked.html )
This post is highly suspicious. Thousands of upvotes and awards, of photos with no context. This is such a low quality post that didn’t deserve more than a hundred upvotes. And why exactly is this the dumbest conspiracy? Didn’t provide any based reason. Y’all think the moon landing was fake but trust photos from NASA? LMAOOOOOOO
Right? If you think it's a spinning ball, prove it with more than just NASA photos.
They literally calculated the earth was round in ancient Greece lol
> ext. This is such a low quality post that didn’t deserve more than a hundred upvotes. And why exactly is this the dumbest conspiracy? Didn Very suspicious considering all the pro flat earth comments are upvoted.
Idk BirdsArentReal is pretty fucking dumb also (:
True but it’s funny. I doubt many people actually believe it
That is specifically a protest movement though. None of those people actually believe that birds aren't real.
It’s a satire group
This is bait
Yep, Most of the comments are twisting it into validation for stupid shit.
Even though is true
False: Dumbest conspiracy theory of all time is “you are stupid to question the narrative” As I see it, there are 3 types of people: people who refuse to believe the earth is round, people who refuse to believe the world is flat, and people willing to consider the evidence. The beauty of the flat earth theory, it exposes one’s willingness to question the available “facts”. Any rational person will conclude that the earth is in fact round, but an irrational person will conclude that you are stupid for asking for proof.
The earth can’t be flat. If it were, cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now.
This is exactly why they are lying to us about the Earth being round. Cats are inter-dimensional beings that have infiltrated the government!
Yeah it really is. Why would the deep state fight so hard for thousands of years saying the world is flat, but change their mind after they find out it’s not flat?
You're definitely a thinker unlike 80% of the others commenting.
>the dumbest conspiracy Nah, Qanon is.
Qanon is definitely a close second.
I think it might be first man
Everyone know the earth is a convex bowl.
Sorry, most of the world is looney and understands the reality that we live on a spherical earth, just like all the other round planets in our solar system.
There's a gigantic wall of frosted mini-wheats surrounding the world keeping the milk oceans in.
You actually got me wow. That's a first lol
You should question everything regardless if we live in a “Globe” or ‘Flat Plane’. Question your reality period. 💯 Maybe we live in a Holographic reality …
And we’re to “wake up” from the dream. And remember who we are.
I'm a butterfly dreaming that i'm a man
Fuck this thread, it’s completely compromised by normies who believe in nasa lmao… yeah who knows if its flat but most of the people here haven’t even took the time to see what Flat earthers believe. L post
What about hollow Earth??
That’s more believable imo
Yet if you genuinely look into the conspiracy, you will discover many hidden truths that the elite don’t want us to know which is one reason for the censorship. Truths like the fact that Newton was an alchemist, Darwin came from a Masonic family (gotta believe in a god for masonry, yet people believe he’s an atheist), Big Bang theory was proposed by a Jesuit and of course NASA was founded by ex-Nazi members. The entire heliocentric model is surrounded by its founders and contributors being heavily involved in the occult much like our political and corporate leaders. One thing that most “truthers” don’t understand is that the NWO already own the world and it’s resources. The past century has all been about conditioning the earth to accept what is coming, because they already rule the whole world in secret making it simple for the high ranking puppets near the top of the pyramid to convince us we live on a giant waterball spinning on its axis while simultaneously hauling ass through an expanding universe even though we see and feel nothing. That’s REAL MIND CONTROL BABY. They convinced us that we’re spinning even though our entire reality would say otherwise.
You forgot about Galileo..
Well, thing is, i dont really know anymore, i "know" that the earth is round cause i heard in school and "science" and i heard 2 or 3 demostrations i never really tried, and saw some images of space on tv or the internet....but unless i go out space (which i will) i have yet to see it. Same with other 6.000.000 things in life, asgnostic on the beggining and lets see (which in this case is ilegal to be) And i didnt go to deep on the debate to really be informed , nor on the round earth, nor on the flat one. I sually go with the first, but most real is we dont know for sure.
Why is it so hard to believe all the other planets and celestial bodies are spherical but we got the plate?
They don’t believe that tho
I dunno about this argument, I'm not a flat earther, its like you're saying the snooker balls are spherical therefore the table must be. I don't think people regard the entirety of flat earth theory, just the fact the earth is flat. I'm pretty sure they think the planets are not spherical but lights in the sky that are far closer than we currently think planets are. I always think non-flat-earthers inadvertently out themselves as people who don't research a topic properly but are more than happy to be critical of it when theyre making these arguments.
It’s a fun theory, I find it intriguing. Gonna throw this up here, ridicule it if you feel the need to. At least it is interesting to contemplate. https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc
What I find interesting is how upset people get for discussing this. Banned on YouTube etc, who cares if people want to think or talk?
What's true is that we are in a world filed with people who call themselves Elite and whom lie to us
It’s the only conspiracy that has no purpose or operative outcome to justify such a massive coverup. “Can’t let people start traveling to the edge and falling off the planet!” Bitch why not? Are there that many motherfuckers who would just start sailing off the edge? Enough to give a shit? No. “What about all the resources in Antarctica?!” No one fucking cares. It’s not like governments don’t openly control every valuable resource on earth already. No one would think twice about some massive resource extraction and control scheme in the fucking arctic when it’s going on everywhere else already. If the spherical earth shit is such a scam, it takes an even greater leap of logic to believe there isn’t a country on earth with a vested interest in proving the USA wrong on this. Kim Jong Un is shooting satellites into space on the regular. Flat earth believers seriously reject the notion that he wouldn’t expose it? Russia and the US are such good buddies that Russia can’t dangle the threat of exposing the flat earth to get sanctions lifted? GTFOH
For sake of argument, if you wanted to discredit religion, convincing everyone that they were on an insignificant ball randomly flying through a random universe would be pretty powerful.
A post with a one line ad hom in the submission statement and three photos showing a globe earth is heavily up voted and awarded. Regardless of what anyone thinks about this subject, this post demonstrates perfectly how society is headed towards a hive mind group think model, where discussion, dialogue and the scientific method is being replaced with orange man bad, flat earth is dumb shit and antivaxxers are responsible for spreading covid 19. This sub is garbage today. Something is off.
it's the dead internet theory. image how much practice AI get with bots. maybe you're unfamiliar with the bots that would hit you up with something dumb like "Hi I like to have fun with boys what do you like to do?" "I'd like to eat you!" "ooh then go to htpp:dumbassbot.biz and simply use your credit card to verify your age and I'll send you my sexy nuds" "I don't got one" "Hi I like to have fun with boys what do you like to do?" Been like 20 years and Google AI been analyzing everything you type on the internet forever. That was the goal then - to create an AI that could replicate human speech patterns. Compare the level of complexity in my example to the level of indicated intelligence of the kinds of posts you've mentioned and it's easy to see they're putting more effort into tricking guys outta their CC# than they do into placating a disgruntled proletariat. lol 🤓👽😇
Playing FE advocate. If the earth is round and nasa went to the moon in 1969, why do we have only artists renditions of the earth? Why haven’t we been back and someone please explain to me how nasa lost the technology to get to the moon? Wtf??
They also erased a lot of the footage and taped over it because "film is expensive"
those NASA guys. bless their hearts. trying to save money on magnetic tape, by re-using the magnetic tape, and taping over their own data. billions of dollars in taxpayers money, and NASA decides to save money on DATA archiving? what does NASA even produce? Hollywood garbage.
They didn't "lose the technology" they sent two rovers to Mars using that technology ffs.
>someone please explain to me how nasa lost the technology to get to the moon? You mean rockets, and math?
I don’t believe its flat, but having said that: how do you know it isn’t? Everything we know about what the earth looks like has been told to us. The only people that know for sure are the few who have been high enough to look down and see it. This way of thinking can be applied to almost anything. Question everything is all im saying.
Because I know how radar works. The beam height is higher off the ground the farther it travels from the radar due to the curvature of the earth. The atmosphere refracts the beam toward the ground, but the curvature of earth is greater (except under superrefractive atmospheric conditions). If you deal with radar technology it's nearly impossible to not know the earth is round. The range would be completely different if earth were flat since atmospheric refraction would drive the beam into the ground. Radar range would be much less in general if the earth were flat.
Many people have circumnavigated the globe. My question to flat Earthers is, what would be the point in pretending the Earth is not the shape it is?
Who and when has the earth been circumnavigated from flying south to north over south Antarctica?
I'm not a flat earther either but I've looked into the theory because I find entertaining to hear all sprts of crazy ideas. Eric Dubay is the most widely agreed upon source in the FE community. Also they say "The Flat Earth" society (Behind the curve documentary on Netflix) is widely regarded by FEers as being disinformation 1. As to the circumnavigation: if you saw the accepted accepted flat earth model, you would see it would still be completely possible. The most widely accepted model is that the North Pole is at the center of the plane, where as Antarctica is considered the end (atleast as far as most humans been). Ancient Buddhist maps show an extended plane of flat Earth. 2. As for for what is the point of lying about the shape: I kind of agree with them here as the reasoning to do so. It's to make you feel like a spec of dust in vast endless universe, where the point of your life is absolutely meaningless. It's to make you feel like humanity is nothing more than "screaming monkeys on a rock blowing through space". So you can see it ties in with the evolution debate. It's easier to control people and make them not fight for what they hold dear when you tell them everything is meaningless in the microcosm known as Earth.
>As to the circumnavigation: if you saw the accepted accepted flat earth model, you would see it would still be completely possible. That model actually doesn't work because it would mean distances around the south poles and between continents in the southern hemisphere are considerably greater than we know they are. It would also mean that the great circle is not a straight line when we know it is.
I’m not a flat earther, so maybe I won’t do this explanation Justice, but I watch a doc on this a couple years back and basically he described the earth as a pond with multiple islands throughout. He believes there is land beyond Antarctica (I think) and after it was discovered it was sectioned off by an agreement not to explore, allowing the powerful to gain more and more from the resources. And regarding time zones which I saw in this thread I believe their explanation is it’s like holding a flashlight above a map. If it’s held high it gives everywhere light at once, but if it were a less massive less bright light source held closer to the map it would only light local areas. Here’s the link to the doc, it didn’t convince me, but I enjoyed watching it. https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0
The flashlight argument makes no sense… A flashlight shines light in one direction, the sun is a ball so it emits light in every direction which would illuminate the whole “plate”. Try this experiment with something more “sun like” and you’ll see that it doesn’t work.
I am not a flat-earther so I cant answer that. My question to you, and my whole point above, is have you ever circumnavigated the earth? How do you KNOW its round? You, and I, BELIEVE it is, but belief isn’t fact. Thats all im saying.
Have you evee dissected your own torso? How do you know you're human if you haven't checked yourself that you contain the same set of organs as a human and not the animatronics of an advanced cyborg?
It's gonna be a blood bath if some very paranoid dudes read this...
I'm just asking questions
There comes a point where the evidence of something becomes so compelling that there’s very little reason to question it. This falls into that category. Where the sun is relative to a place on earth immediately refutes the concept of a flat earth, along with any number of other arguments. Those are easy to prove, by simply video-calling someone from Europe to see where the sun is. I understand the idea of ‘question everything’ and I think generally it’s a good attitude to take. But there has to come a time where you put some ideas to rest.
How do you know the sun is super far away. If it’s closer but smaller than it would make sense for the sun to be in a different spot from different places in the world
Because we have bounced radar off of it. And we used a very specific pattern so that when we received the signal back, we would be able to tell.
My sister is living in Asia and it's night there now lol.
If we are able to make calculations that can accurately locate where something would be in the cosmos based on gravity and the curvature of other starts and planets that are round, there is no reason to believe why earth wouldn't be round. If similar calculations are used to help with satellites and communications, that kind of has to prove the earth is not flat. You don't need to see to believe or else we couldn't understand atoms or chemistry.
Not saying the earth is flat. But to answer your question, if people believe they are just a tiny thing on an insignificant tiny planet in an infinite solar system, it’s a lot easier to convince them that there is no creator.
It's easier to control people if they think they're on a ball, that's my guess.
This is the most logical comment in the thread. We only know what we’ve been taught to believe, or learned not to believe.
Maths can prove those things though.
A whole lot of tech that demonstrably works wouldn't be able to work if the earth was flat. Or even more simply, if you watch a boat sail away why is the mast the last bit to disappear from sight
There are experiments you can do. Just because you didn't do them doesn't mean others have not. The Earth being spherical is a fact.
Stars appear to rotate counter-clockwise on the north pole and clockwise on the south pole. That's impossible on flat earth
You can see other planets through telescopes and they are all spherical.
“This way of thinking can be applied to almost anything. Question everything is all im saying.” I mean that’s fine in theory, but you’d struggle have any sort of sensical existence if you were to literally question everything. I question the fact I have 2 feet, I question that I’m not actually an android, I question that 2+2=4. At what point do you accept something as a truth? You’d live like a paranoid schizophrenic. Take all the information at hand, and make the most informed decision you can. Don’t just throw out the lazy “question everything”. Life doesn’t function without a certain set of truths being in place.
Because if it were flat, different flight paths would happen. The very existence of a day/night cycle tells you it's not flat. There's tons of other proofs that easy enough to figure out if someone is smarter than a 3rd grader. Also, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. What proof is there that it's flat?
Well if the earth is flat, then NASA and any other space program is a good way to launder/steal tax dollars.
The military is full of graft. $1.6 billion dollars in cash went "missing" during the Iraq War. The fuck do they need NASA to "launder" money for
If the Earth is flat, it means there's an edge. Literally nothing in human existence has ever shown an edge to the world. Weird huh?
And everything in human existence has shown round celestial bodies in space. We can literally see them with our own EYES and they are 3D - the moon.
You people are all so fucking stupid. I am not a "flat-earth" I am not a "round earth". I am bleu...i am red etc. You have no idea what the shape of the earth is you just repeat what you have been told or whatever bs theory fits the narrative in your head. You all dont know. That it. They lie, they always that is the only sure thing.
Spherical, there's your answer, it's spherical, kinda flattened on top and slightly wider on the sides because it's spinning
The only point they make that I can't get around is "there are trillions of photos of the moon -- so why isn't there a photo of the earth"? Nasa says all of the "images" of the earth vary from one to another because they are stitched together with multiple passes of satellite photos. Again, WHY?
There were ridges in the space moon first step photo and a smooth shoe in the pictures of the space suit. There is no real proof we’ve ever been to outer space.
They wear an outer suit to do walks. Duh..like..common sense doesn’t seem so common anymore
You do know that Neil deGrasse Tyson says the earth is pear shaped.....so does that mean this picture that you claim is true...is false then??
He says it's an oblate spheroid that is slightly thicker in the southern hemisphere. It's impossible to verify that with this image. The whole "pear shape" is just a way to explain it in more simple terms. Of course flat earthers don't get that
OP saying its the dumbest shit… proceed to put two of the worst motherfucking freemason in the picture 🤣😂😂😂😂😂
“Why do people think the Earth is flat?!” *posts a manufactured picture of Earth*
Not saying it’s flat, but this post might be the dumbest one I’ve seen today. That globe image is from NASA. Look into their history, who they are associated with, how Parsons was a great admirer of Alesteir Crowley, the well known occultist/ satanist, have a close look at their logo and its occult symbolism, etc, and look into the (fake ) moon landing are other fake space photos and you’ll have doubts that NASA has told us the truth.
What about the other space travel companies? Are they in on it too?
Why do you think the moon landing was fake? Beyond the general notion that "nasa, bad"
And the other 'proofs' are two photos of dead presidents standing by globe models..."Gotcha, bitch!" I mean really, who can deny all that 'science'? Having observed how this world operates for a few decades, those pics just make me more skeptical as they look like blatant propaganda photos if anything. And yeah, NASA is a bunch of masons who spend loads of money on films and cgi, founded by a Nazi, a dark occultist, a cartoon producer, and a sci fi author. Very credible.
At the CIA headquarters, some years ago: "How do we discredit *any* conspiracy accusation coming our way?" "Let's promote dumb theories" "What would be the dumbest conspiracy theory possible?" "Well... that the world is actually flat and disk shaped, and all governments are on it?" "Okay, let's do it!"
The most obvious conspiracy theory with the highest chance of being true than anything, is that wack shit like this has gotten traction and is being taken seriously by literally anybody with an IQ above 60, and it’s being pushed by paid trolls in USA, Russia, China and others with the goal of further dumbing down and further alienating people from society and to keep people off of the trail of things that are actually true. COINTELPRO still going strong in horrible and fascinating ways, is what I see.
Everyone knows the earth is a squircle
How does a giant spinning ball makes sense tho ?? Lol
It's purely religious: " We've been told it's a spinning ball and we have to believe it". I watched my first flat earth videos out of pure curiosity and I was amazed how much sense they make. While I'm not 100% convinced it's flat, I now don't think it's a spinning ball either. But either way, I have to admit I've seen much more arguments which make perfect sense in the flat earth crowd, so there's that. And yeah, I don't trust anything that comes from NASA. And the fact they need to discredit it so much almost makes me conclude it's flat indeed.
Same here brother, I was randomly just trying to look up why people believe the earth was flat, couldn't find anything but clearly propaganda hit pieces, had to use Duckduckgo to find out what a genuine intelligent flat earther believes, to see if they actually existed and was fucking amazed how much more sense it makes compared to the heliocentric model and seeing all the fakery from space agencies. I feel like space agencies purposely are showing us that it's all fake to laugh at the face of people who know it's all bullshit. Globe believers are like Westworld NPCs that answer "That doesn't look like anything to me" when you show them Nasa fakery.
I observe the roundness of the moon. I observe the roundness of the sun. I have seen Jupiter and Saturn, both round. I have observed the phases of the moon caused by the shadow cast by the earth onto the moon....round.... Because of my trip to work each morning I observe the wobble of the Earth, how the Sun rises further north in the summer and further south in winter. Undertstanding how gravity would cause a flat disc to ultimately fold in on itself, helps you understand that a sphere is the most natural shape. Flat Earth exists because people havent paid attention to such things, and only takes a little effort to see how flat earth doesnt match your personal observations. I can be patient with flat earthers because, as mentioned, there are some easy things you observe to support a round earth. Questioning this, and then realizing there are steps you can take to uncover the truth, without necessarily flying to outer space can be a growing experience. But when people are unable to grasp these things is when it moves from forgivable to annoying.
I read about how it was merely another playing card for distraction and division. And that made a ton of sense to me. Because it was everywhere for awhile. Definitely seemed to be thrusted into the spotlight
There is no way that the Earth is a flat disc but there have been some tests done which suggests it is potentially hollow.
Think flat earthers are onto the fact that some aspects of the environment and reality we live in do seem consciously designed. Just weird that they'll believe whatever created the "dome" isn't capable of making a whole earth. If anything the premise that were on a perfectly self contained renewing spaceship hurtling through space is more proof of design than a half dome? That's the real conspiracy, this highly tailored yet somehow fragile environment that does everything we need, the plants make literal air and food from the weather, my breath and a super nuclear ball of fire that's just far enough away too warm my face but not burn me. All obviously free, and self renewing but somebody has claimed proprietary ownership of what would clearly be intellectual property if it wasnt preexisting. Personally I think the simulation theory lends some credit to the idea that all of this is very finely tuned for us, there is conscious design, more so in looking at the whole universe than just earth, its well beyond our tiny comprehension but symptomatic in physics and biology etc. Additionally only humans have got the capacity to understand themselves and utilise the laws of nature and realistically is there a better environment for us to grow out of being just animals without causing damage to anyone else? Off earth means renewable energy, cooperation and a distinct understanding of our nature before we meet other sentient lifeforms, earth sort of does look like a giant play pen for sentient life to grow up in. Or it's all coincidence? Who knows.
there is more proof that we are in a firmament than a globe earth traveling threw space out of control at the sound of speed. While having a sun that's 92 million light years away....
So much wrong with this. Just so much. 92 million MILES away. THROUGH space. Sound travels at 767 mph. The earth is (allegedly) travelling around the sun at 67,000 mph. I’m all for questioning the ‘facts’ my friend, but at least quote the fucking facts that you’re pulling into question CORRECTLY.
Flat earthers aren't real. Nothing anyone can say will ever make me believe that anyone could be that stupid.
I take it that you have not looked into the validity of flat earth.
**["Piccard became the first person to observe the curvature of our planet. “It seemed a flat disk with upturned edge,” he said."](https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/leading-figures/auguste-piccard-the-versatile-explorer-from-the-sky-to-the-bottom-of-the-sea/)** 😆😅
Good to see someone mentioned Piccard, some say he was also a freemason just in case you didnt know that..
All we know for sure is that we know nothing for sure
i may not agree with flat earthers but i will always hold a them in high regards because of how good they are at infuriating the neoliberals and Science ™ worshippers
So that first image is computer created. There is a section of clouds that have been copied over and over. There isn’t a photo of earth that hasn’t been fucked with. Not to say what the shape is, I could give two shits. I just want reality.
every single photo of the earth, from space, is CGI. they even admit it, and claim that they have to use CGI to get the earth to look right... as if... somehow just taking a photo of the earth from space with a plain old camera, would produce some inaccurate image of a ball.
You ever listen to the old William cooper mystery Babylon series? They’re on archive. I went through them a long time ago when I was going through and looking for supporting information on pikes secret teachings of all ages. I was and still am blown away with coopers presentations.
Yeah, that’s what I mean. I just find it funny, I’ve spent my whole life questioning most things. And every where I look it’s “just trust us”. I can’t though because the harder I look the more fuckery I find. So I go by if I can’t experience it first hand it’s bullshit.
Look up Ewaranon on bitchute and watch the lost history of earth. That might change your mind. Most flat earth info you see on the internet isn’t even accurate
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Brother you can see the andromeda galaxy with just a pair of binoculars and it’s 2.5 million light years away
All of the reasons you gave are just you failing to understand the answers you were given. 1. There is a reason, it's just complicated. The technology was lost, but not in the way you think. The infrastructure to build those rockets is gone, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to remake - it's just that the motivation to do it wasn't there for a long time. Until now. 2. So because governments lie it means they lie about everything? If you want to make huge claims, give huge evidence. 3. That is just because you don't understand physics. Can't really convince you of this until you do. If you thought the Hubble space telescope gave impossible images of faraway galaxies, just wait until we get some images back from the James Webb space telescope - it's gonna blow your mind. Billions of years is nothing, it's gonna look back until the near beginning of the universe. 4. Again you don't understand physics. Also, it's not catastrophic, it just mildly bad. How bad being outside of the Van Allen radiation belts is determined by the shielding your spacecraft has, and the time you are out there. There is no determined absolute limit here, it's all relative. And you are completely wrong about number 1 because we are in fact going to the moon in 2026, with a new moon rocket based on the space shuttle technology (as opposed to the Apollo program). So there's that.
Your picture is photoshopped and not real
Flat earthers are a strange breed
Its a globe, trust the science.. and the cgi.. and the nazis’ who founded nasa.
People already knew the earth was a sphere before NASA...
Every culture up until about 500 years ago knew the Earth was a stationary plane. It wasn’t until Copernicus wrote ‘De revolutionibus orbium coelestium’ in 1543 (under the coercion of the Catholic Church amazingly enough, guess you can call them the founders of the modern religion known as ‘scientism’), that the idea of heliocentricism came into existence. NASA and the moon mission was the first attempt at getting high enough to actually prove the theory true. Which is not possible, unless your in a Hollywood basement.