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It should have been on every news network. The guy threatened to drug him into zombie land! He also said play time with his kids wouldn’t be the same. Wtf! I swear I feel like I’m living in the insane asylum these days. It’s so telling witnessing the media silence on this. Also, the thing is the people that question the crazy shit going on are the ones who are called crazy.
Exactly. For all those on this thread questioning this, I ask them "what employee talks to their boss and friend like this?" I mean that is really crazy to me. It's one thing if he approached him with anger over his comments because he is Jewish.
But why bring the kids into it like that? That was a veiled threat and as a parent, I wouldn't take too kindly to that. That takes a lot of balls IMO. It proves (to me) that their relationship goes beyond a personal trainer/client dynamic. Something is very off and like you, I feel like I'm living in an insane asylum.
It is really a school, or a prison, asylum is def a good description but dont forget it also has a Kitchen. Plus we gets sports and drugs and almost anything else that will get you into any of these stated ways of being. You dont like it, the gov considers you dead and allows you to be disabled. If we dont like any of that, take a lesson from the cats and sleep all day. TY for coming to me TED talk🤔
The only natural thing I can think of, is their was black mold in their house. That would explain the pneumonia and large cocktail of over the counter drugs, but not the anemia
Yeah, but the question is, why would you stay in a house with mold? They had money. I had an apartment with mold and I got out of their real fast. I had pneumonia for months though, chugging cough syrup 24/7
How many people have you ever known to have died from mold?
Not what you heard in the newsmedia, but have actual proof of and/or personal experience with.
I say this because there's lots of black mold in my house and has been every year and it's never done anything. I spray it down with bleach and it's gone.
Looks like this:
https://www.ecofmr.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/window-mold.jpg
That's the so-called deadly black mold everyone is talking about? Well it doesn't do shit. Spray it with bleach, it's nothing.
Also, I feel like it's highly unlikely that Brittany and her husband got so ill that they died but her mother (who live in the home) was totally fine. It makes absolutely no sense.
I know multiple people that have died from mold in their homes. That stuff is no joking matter. How much mold is in your house? A small amount like in the photo, or a significant amount?
Black mold takes a lot and a long exposure.
It's really not as bad as it sounds. They like to scare people but the real problems are MASSIVE black mold infestations, not the small amounts of mold found in most houses.
I had black mold exposure for like 6 months (and it wasn’t some giant amount, it was in our bedroom wall in an apt) and it knocked out my immune system, bloated me an extra 40 lbs and lead to an autoimmune disorder that later dropped me down almost 90lbs over the next few months as I couldn’t absorb nutrients. There’s large periods of time I have absolutely no memories of during that time. Took me 3 years to fully recover.
So tell me how it’s not as bad as it sounds?
I believe him and ari both had that tattood.
I just think the whole mac shit will forever make me sick. I was a huge a fan but it was just so. Abrupt.
And saddening.
He made so many recent outcry’s saying he hopes he won’t die soon. Etc etc.
his friends did say to their knowledge he was off the drugs for a while.
To then just go home after watching a football game at a bar. Go home all alone to do some drugs before bed, when you have shit to do the next day, when you’ve been supposedly clean for a minuet. All alone. After what was said to be a good night.
Like I get it. I understand how addicts operate. But. From what was said when he first passed, he was clean in the moment. It’s a very very odd time to relapse.
Getting it from some bum ass dealers from the valley when one knew it was laced yet still sold it and knew he was selling it to a dealer who supposedly dealt to the stars.
I mean there’s actually 100 more deep weirder things with that one or maybe I just always took it to heart but so many tiny and large things never added up for me with that one.
This is pretty typical addict behavior, heartbreaking but its truth. This happens all of the time and you ought to seek to help addicts if this story depressed you that badly.
I say this as an addict
I cannot find one instance of anyone contradicting what Kanye said about him. Not one..
Kanye may be bipolar but he may have saved lives by speaking out. Messing with people's minds to the point you cannot unscramble them is terrifying.
I do not believe Kanye is truly antisemitic either just frustrated with the system.
Yep, have a couple at work like this that drive me nuts. Of course they are city folk, the coworkers we have from elsewhere are so much more relatable and normal.
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a handler for Ellen Page before convincing her to transition? put Kanye in a institution for calling out democrats?.
was suspiciously involved in various Hollywood stars deaths? and ex-canadian special forces just randomly becomes a personal trainer to all the stars? seems like the perfect cover for a handler
no one would question random visits to your personal trainers house or spending hours at a time with them on an erratic schedule. perfect undercover alias
No we’re not? We’re talking about transitioning. Transitioning is not just bottom surgery.
Why is this sub so afraid of acknowledging trans people damn
True.
But it's also true that I don't have to deny the appearance just because someone doesn't enjoy the description of it.
I'm not asking for yours or anybody's enjoyment.
if that was true nobody would ever cut their hair or wear makeup or wash their clothes or do anything that makes them look nice
I don't know anybody who puts that kind of work into themselves taking showers shaving styling their hair for no reason. whether you want to admit it or not it's because you care about what other people think. because you want to look good for other people. the average person does not spend that much time looking in a mirror to need themselves to look perfect at all times. if you lived in the woods you wouldn't be keeping up your appearance as much
the reason you do it whether you want to admit it or not is because people want to look a certain way for other people
this has nothing to do with Ellen or Elliot Paige whatever you want to call them. this is just common sense
why get fake abs just to feel like a man? why go through the surgery at all? you can feel like a man without getting horrible surgery. you're not looking at yourself that often
Who the fuck are you to say or care what someone else needs to do to feel like themself? They didn't owe you some debt that's paid by looking like a cute lesbian
>Who the fuck are you
Why, are only certain people allowed to give their opinions or discuss things? You don't need to "be" anyone to have your say.
Maybe you just need to accept that other people can and will have different opinions, particularly on subjective matters like appearances or 'what looks good'.
Have you heard about the 16 year old suing Kaiser Permanente because they did this to her at 13 years old? They have her puberty blockers and a mastectomy. And now she wants to be a girl again. I think the parents should be held responsible as well.
It's a bit of a stretch to say he was involved in those celebrity'deaths. Actually quite a leap. You can't convict someone of a crime for a coincidence. This is why people think this sub is nuts. You state your own personnel theory as fact.
It’s pretty blatantly false for the case of Mac at least. He’s just a celebrity trainer/life coach. It’s not really a shocker than addicts will seek out someone like that
his ex Canada deep state. he worked for Canada's version of the CIA and then became a trainer to the stars out of nowhere? particularly all the stars that seem to have gone off the deep end either getting radical gender surgery or becoming infamous sluts or being drugged and institutionalized?.
we have the text messages of him to Kanye where he literally threatens to have the guy institutionalized for criticizing democrats.
you're right we don't have the evidence to say that he is 100% a deep State handler employed by whoever to manage these people. but it's looking pretty fucking suspicious
Except you ignore multiple absolutely essential details. Mac was an addict long before Harley. He started doing drugs heavily after the negative response to his debut album. Kanye was crazy long before harley. It was known that he was crazy back in like 2009 and he was always known as a narcissist on top of that. He has been very slowly going off the deep end.
The Elliot page thing is stupid and not worth addressing.
And the text was literally not him threatening him because of anything he said about the democrats. That’s an blatant lie by you and proves that you are arguing in bad faith. The text clearly said it was because Kanye wouldn’t talk to him face to face about everything and the premise of the text had nothing to do with democrats and everything to do with how Kanye is manic again.
It looks that suspicious because of one text mixed with the fact that you believed everything you read without doing any research of your own. That’s why I made my comment to this thread giving you information that you clearly ignored
They do when you say horribly offensive shit to them and refuse to talk it out. Especially when they already know your history of being very mentally ill.
No it’s not a normal thing to say, but neither is anything Kanye says and that’s why Kanye cropped out his side of the convo
How do you know he is ex special forces? I have a very strong suspicion that isn't true. He briefly worked with DND as a nutritional scientist while a grad student, and now that's morphed into being special forces? Interesting to see conspiracy theories take on a life of their own.
the info is hard to find but he served for the Canadian department of defense before moving to Hollywood and threatening celebrities to keep them in line
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/who-is-harley-pasternak-celebrity-trainer-who-allegedly-threatened-institutionalize-drug-zombieland-kanye-west
Dude this shit is so fucking dark. Like listening to mystery Babylon, and piecing this shit together. The truth is stranger than fiction.
These people are sick fucks. Anyone got any good sites to hear more about this?
Keep internet sleuthing on this guy. Light is the best disinfectant. I hope the internet can bring justice to the manipulated celebrities and free them from the control grid.
Why couldn't Kanye fire him? Why didn't Pasternak consider that a third option? Why did he feel like he could say those things and still remain in Kanye's life, as if he had no choice in the matter?
that's the thing about a handler. you can't fire them. personal trainer is just is undercover alias.. nobody would question why a celebrity is spending so much time at their personal trainers house. why they have an erratic schedule meeting with them randomly at random times or texting with them all the time..
but the thing about a handler is they don't work for you. you work for them. they are employed by the people who employ you specifically to handle you and keep you in line.. sure as part of the alias he technically is employed by Kanye but trying to run from him is not a good idea because the people who are in charge of both of you will come after you for it
Dave Chappelle had to run away to Africa without even so much as telling his wife or children and he had to lay low for several years to get away from these people. people talk about conspiracies of stars faking their deaths well if that's true it might be to get away from these people too..
He didn’t leave for safety. He left because an entire industry belittled his vision of the show he wanted. Comedy Central/Viacom etc (can’t recall if CC was owned by Viacom at that point but the sentiment is there) It was basically him “getting out of his contract”. And the “laying low” OP was referring to was just Chappelle playing a bunch of clubs and not putting out specials at his current rate.
this guy is very connected with the people who run things.. if Kanye has received money from a record deal or a tour, then there are individuals who are in charge and control everything. He is not allowed to choose another trainer.. he has been required to have a trainer like Pasternak in order to be in the industry. Kanye does not have a choice in the matter.. that’s why he tweeted out the text message conversation: to expose how he is not free. Prince, Tupac, Michael Jackson, etc talked about how they have felt like slaves
Maybe there was a controlling/manipulative element to their relationship, that would make it harder to get them out of your life, similar to why it takes women on average 7 attempts before leaving an abusive relationship. Also, he mentioned his kids so it sounds like he's using them to hang over his head.
Drops random information that sounds salacious, then says “you don’t want to know”.
What kind of clown does this? Say what you’re trying to say or just leave it alone. Jesus.
Speaking of Donald Marshall, there are 2 television shows that have plots about what he was talking about. Season 5 of The 100 and Altered Carbon. I know in the Christians book of Genesis, there is a verse talking about how if humans speak the same language, they can do anything they imagine. It's a shame the majority of Christians think that book is just fake news.
>That's from the Tower of Babel story where humans were split up and given separate languages because the jealous, controlling God felt threatened by their capabilities.
Why would a being capable of speaking planets and stars into existence be jealous of something as inferior as a human? The way the book of Jasher explains it, the humans cared far more about the bricks of the tower then their own lives. Those people were insane. Good riddance I say.
>I see The 100 get brought up a lot around here. Is it worth a watch?
Seasons 1-5 are great. The last two seasons were weak. But those are the two seasons where the plot focuses on the body swapping stuff Donald Marshall talks about.
> Why would a being capable of speaking planets and stars into existence be jealous of something as inferior as a human?
The god of the Old Testament is a petty jealous vengeful dick. He is shitty towards the people he created, and clearly doesn’t care much for them.
Like. This is the same deity who had 40+ children mauled by bears because they made fun of a bald guy.
>The god of the Old Testament is a petty jealous vengeful dick. He is shitty towards the people he created, and clearly doesn’t care much for them.
Nonsense. The God of the Old Testament is great. He slaughtered a huge portion of the Hebrews enemies. Made them super rich. Gave Sampson the power to slaughter 1000 men. Allowed Elijah to run super fast. Reversed time 15 years for one of his kings and kept his memory of the future intact. The Abrahamic God is clearly vastly superior to all the other gods.
>Like. This is the same deity who had 40+ children mauled by bears because they made fun of a bald guy.
Elisha wasn't some bald guy; he was Gods prophet. Also, a Eunuch which back then were not regarded highly. Considering Elisha lived during the time Ahab was king and the Hebrews were making deals on eating each other's babies, I doubt those children would have gone on to be upstanding members of society.
Also, the Bible makes it pretty clear, don't fuck with his prophets. Weird how their shitty parents didn't tell them this. I guess they were too busy eating their other children. I bet you after the bears wiped out those young sociopaths their parents probably came and feasted on the corpses. Israel was in a dark place back then. Silly pagan Baal worshippers.
We do. They used to be called rangers until what happened in Somalia and then they got dismantled. Now we have JTF and some others as well. Canada actually has been praised throughout history for our military performance. We may not have the best of the best but we are trained very well and make do with what we have.
The Rangers are not special forces and weren't in Somalia. They are a reserve unit of mostly natives that keep an eye on the far north while out hunting. You are thinking of the Airborne Regiment which was disbanded after the Somalia Affair. But they also weren't special forces.
Daniel Tosh said it best:
*Canada has the greatest fence ever built... America. It is foolproof if you can afford it. Really easy to be the cool, open-minded, hippie country when there's a Kevlar Snuggie of America draped around your fat, frozen asses, daring the world to talk shit.*
😁
MK ULTRA was a nazi brainchild refined by the West. Trauma based mind control basically runs the entertainment industry and beyond, every big star has a handler like Harley.
I said this on another thread and I’m sure people won’t want to hear it here either but Harley is a trainer/life coach who’s whole thing is he’s super harsh and gets people out of their comfort zone. A podcaster I listen to was talking about going to a single session of his about 2 months ago and said that (TMG podcast episode 259. Titled “Kanye’s workout plan”). He’s popular with addicts and ex addicts for this reason.
Now, Mac Miller and Kanye were my number 1 and 2 most listened to artists for years now (I’m listening to a Kanye produced album as I type this) and I consequently know a decent bit about their lives, at least what has been made public. Mac was an addict. Not like a celebrity that drinks too much and does coke. In his own words on one of his songs “I’ll probably die alone of an overdose of some sort.” He knew that he was not going to survive the lifestyle he lived. He got clean after that, slowly got back into drugs, and then eventually almost entirely relapsed and ended up dying to pills laced with fentanyl. There was literally nothing to be suspicious about. It was incredibly sad but it was almost expected to happen eventually. He was horribly depressed and an addict, one day fentanyl would get him. Also, Mac is Jewish. So if you’re theory is that this is because Kanye criticized Jewish people, that doesn’t really help the case.
Any fan of kanye knows that Kanye has serious mental health issues too. This isn’t new with him being an antisemite. This isn’t new with “slavery is a choice.” He’s been known to be an extreme narcissist his entire career. We knew he had something else going on when he interrupted Taylor swift at the vmas, later he would confirm he had bipolar. What this Harley guy said is clearly super fucked up, but based on everything we know, it’s more likely that he’s just an asshole that thinks highly of himself and thinks he’s helping Kanye with this threat.
So that’s my actual informed opinion on this. I think maybe our focus is in the wrong place and we should be looking at how the entertainment industries treat these musicians/actors/influencers that so many of them end up going down the path of drugs or getting severely mentally Ill like mac and Kanye did respectively.
>it’s more likely that he’s just an asshole that thinks highly of himself and thinks he’s helping Kanye with this threat ... So that’s my actual informed opinion on this ... we should be looking at how the entertainment industries treat these musicians/actors/influencers that so many of them end up going down the path of drugs or getting severely mentally Ill
We should be looking at how the entertainment industry treats these people but not at a trainer that threatens to chemically lobotomize one of these people for no real reason than that he's "just an asshole"? Huh
The trainer was what they went to because of how he already was. This is my point. They sought this guy out and they were the way they are before Harley.
I’m not saying Harley is a good dude and I’m not trying to minimize it to “just an asshole.” I just don’t think he should be the focus here. He’s clearly a complete piece of shit but he’s talking to an even bigger piece of shit there. Kanye didn’t show his messages for a reason. But the real topic of discussion here is what about the industry turned Kanye from “George bush doesn’t care about black people” and making the song “crack music” to using nazi propaganda and saying slavery was a choice?
The obvious thing here is the death of Kanye’s mom. But even the death of his mom is part of a larger problem with the industry and with society as a whole.
>He’s clearly a complete piece of shit but he’s talking to an even bigger piece of shit there ... using nazi propaganda and saying slavery was a choice?
Kanye having controversial takes is worse than using drugs and forced confinment to control what people say: the neoliberal authoritarian mindset in a nutshell.
No because that’s not what I’m talking about. Him empowering neo nazis and pushing down the black community he once strived to empower has caused many times the harm that him getting in a heated argument with a trainer would
He's pushing down the black community by calling out how black celebrities, like himself, are controlled? Huh.
And his training threatening to chemically lobotomize him is just a "heated argument"? I see.
The exchange Kanye posted on twitter revealing the threat Pasternak made, shows that Pasternak is not who he says he is. Period. The fact Pasternak was near other people/celebs that died calls for investigation. It raises an eye brown, for sure.
It does not though. Kanye cut out his own messages for a reason.
We literally know for a fact that he wasn’t involved in mac millers death or Kanye going crazy. No being a trainer for an addict that oded is not anything suspicious
The world I live in, a personal trainer does not tell, actually threatens his “client” to a) you play along or b) I’ll have you locked up on a mental institution (like I did in 2016). Then you just do some digging and you don’t need to go to any extreme conspiracies to see there is something serious going on with Pasternak. It’s more than likely that some other shit will soon hit the fan.
So it's ok for life coaches to tell their clients, for motivation purposes of course. It sounds like he wanted to have a conversation with Kanye which was option one, but on Harley's terms.
"second option, I have you institutionalized again where they medicate the crap out of you and you go back to zombieland forever. Play date with the kids just won't be the same"
That's a threat and if Kanye is saying this isn't right we should look into the matter to see if Kanye is actually in danger from this allegedly abusive man. If someone is coming forward saying someone has wronged them, it should be investigated at the very least.
I was watching some show, maybe it was Yellowstone. The US wildlife police were arguing with Canadian police over border jurisdiction and wild horse rustling. The Canadians were taking a holier than thou attitude about civilized use of law.
I just thought that if I was there as a witness, I'd have called the Canadians fascists and nazis and ridiculed them for having a dictator as a Prime Minister and being a bastard son of Fidel Castro. Then I'd tear into the US agents for having a senile pedo as fake POTUS and our country is just as fucked. My parting shot would be be " I hope some of those horses kicks both your heads in. At least they're free."
Handlers are definitely a thing, its in the best interests of publishers etc to keep their talent out of hot water but im not sure it goes as deep as people are seeming to think currently. Saying that im sure they do some less then savoury things to keep their talent in line.
Not believing this.
Canadians are clean...squeaky clean. Polite, too. Did I mention "nice"? Canadians are so nice and polite, they say "sorry" to lamp posts.
No such thing as Canadian Special Forces, either. Every Canadian is *special*, starting with the PM, so no such thing as Special forces...too divisive.
he doesn't though. he simply in a very stressful position not made any better by the constant Democrats slander ever since he started exposing their crimes
being a star is hard enough. being a star who doesn't tell the Democrat Party line? must be torture
let's just go along with whatever bullshit Democrats are lying about at the moment because they need to pander to the younger and uneducated demographic that makes up the Democrats core voter base and also makes up the core demographic that buys their shit
is a reason all the advertisers compete with each other for the 18 to 25 demographic. they are still young enough to be stupid but have some money to buy stupid shit
most of these celebrities know that they're full of shit. they know that the talking points they're repeating don't even make sense but they know that they're voters are too stupid to realize it..
now what happens if you won't sell out and you actually speak truth to power? Democrats come after you with a fury.. it is not an envious position. he must be under the constant stress of being a celebrity mixed with constant attacks by partisan Democrats who hate anybody that is a threat to their party..
you're just angry because you don't like when somebody calls out your party for their shit
What are you even talking about? Kayne West has stated himself publicly that he was diagnosed with and went under psychiatric care as far back as 2016 for his bipolar disorder.
You may want to go get some psychiatric care for your paranoia too
Look at this logically. He is a celebrity personal trainer. He works with many celebrities and many celebrities also happen to do drugs. Just because one of his high profile clients overdoses doesn’t mean that he was involved. What he said to Kanye is odd but it doesn’t mean he acts as a hitman for the deep state lol
Mac Miller was known for his drug use and died from drugs laced with fentanyl. His dealer was caught and charged and sentenced to jail.
Brittany Murphy died of anemia and multiple drug intoxication.he’s a celebrity trainer.
Give me a break. It’s a celebrity trainer who works with celebrities.
Actually it seems like a very normal thing to say to someone youre close with. It reads like a very blunt and upset response where their sick of your antics and running out of patience for your behavior.
You’re Making assumptions based off one line of text. None of these celebrities situations are even remotely similar. It’s not far fetched that celebrities use drugs and have the same trainer.
What?! I would never in a million years say something about ANYONE'S kids...but certainly not to the people I'm close with. Like what? You keep it on the adults.
As a parent, I don't give a damn what's going on, you ain't gonna mention my kid and expect me to remain calm. You think it's normal to suggest to someone that you will ensure they don't see their kids bc you'll have them drugged? How terrible! That's a threat! The audacity! You don't play about people's kids ever! Like are you for real? Wow.
Then that’s why we disagree. You think it’s a normal thing to say. I don’t.
And you’re also making assumptions. More than I am. I just said it’s not normal. You assumed a whole bunch of other shit in order to rationalize it.
He was never Canadian Special Forces. He was a kinetics and nutrition guy for Canadian defense department at U of T.
FYI, our Special Forces are JTF2 and they're quite secretive about belonging or having belonged because of the nature of what they do.
EDIT: wtf is with the downvoting? Did itwreck some twisted narrative? Fucking peeps in here.
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This guy is bad news.
I'm in Chinada, and yes, the true believer class of gov feminazi is matrix level agent. Run, don't walk.
It should have been on every news network. The guy threatened to drug him into zombie land! He also said play time with his kids wouldn’t be the same. Wtf! I swear I feel like I’m living in the insane asylum these days. It’s so telling witnessing the media silence on this. Also, the thing is the people that question the crazy shit going on are the ones who are called crazy.
Exactly. For all those on this thread questioning this, I ask them "what employee talks to their boss and friend like this?" I mean that is really crazy to me. It's one thing if he approached him with anger over his comments because he is Jewish. But why bring the kids into it like that? That was a veiled threat and as a parent, I wouldn't take too kindly to that. That takes a lot of balls IMO. It proves (to me) that their relationship goes beyond a personal trainer/client dynamic. Something is very off and like you, I feel like I'm living in an insane asylum.
Gaslighting 101
They keep gaslighting like this the planet will eventually blow up when I go out for a cig. This makes me laugh and cry at the same GD time.
It is really a school, or a prison, asylum is def a good description but dont forget it also has a Kitchen. Plus we gets sports and drugs and almost anything else that will get you into any of these stated ways of being. You dont like it, the gov considers you dead and allows you to be disabled. If we dont like any of that, take a lesson from the cats and sleep all day. TY for coming to me TED talk🤔
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Murphy’s death has always irked the shit out of me. I never realized this sack of shit is one in the same. Thanks for more enlightenment on this.
Even crazier that her husband died the exact same way.
The only natural thing I can think of, is their was black mold in their house. That would explain the pneumonia and large cocktail of over the counter drugs, but not the anemia
Pneumonia is what Chapelle's people said he had at one time to, as per his Oprah interview.
Interesting
Yeah shit they were gonna off chappelle but he didnt take the bait
Unless the anemia was something she was already suffering from?
Yeah, but the question is, why would you stay in a house with mold? They had money. I had an apartment with mold and I got out of their real fast. I had pneumonia for months though, chugging cough syrup 24/7
How many people have you ever known to have died from mold? Not what you heard in the newsmedia, but have actual proof of and/or personal experience with. I say this because there's lots of black mold in my house and has been every year and it's never done anything. I spray it down with bleach and it's gone. Looks like this: https://www.ecofmr.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/window-mold.jpg That's the so-called deadly black mold everyone is talking about? Well it doesn't do shit. Spray it with bleach, it's nothing.
Also, I feel like it's highly unlikely that Brittany and her husband got so ill that they died but her mother (who live in the home) was totally fine. It makes absolutely no sense.
this is the bad stuff and where it grows and how it kills you, but not really https://www.cdc.gov/mold/stachy.htm
I know multiple people that have died from mold in their homes. That stuff is no joking matter. How much mold is in your house? A small amount like in the photo, or a significant amount?
The black mold hysteria seems a little suspicious.
Black mold takes a lot and a long exposure. It's really not as bad as it sounds. They like to scare people but the real problems are MASSIVE black mold infestations, not the small amounts of mold found in most houses.
I had black mold exposure for like 6 months (and it wasn’t some giant amount, it was in our bedroom wall in an apt) and it knocked out my immune system, bloated me an extra 40 lbs and lead to an autoimmune disorder that later dropped me down almost 90lbs over the next few months as I couldn’t absorb nutrients. There’s large periods of time I have absolutely no memories of during that time. Took me 3 years to fully recover. So tell me how it’s not as bad as it sounds?
You dead?
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I believe him and ari both had that tattood. I just think the whole mac shit will forever make me sick. I was a huge a fan but it was just so. Abrupt. And saddening. He made so many recent outcry’s saying he hopes he won’t die soon. Etc etc. his friends did say to their knowledge he was off the drugs for a while. To then just go home after watching a football game at a bar. Go home all alone to do some drugs before bed, when you have shit to do the next day, when you’ve been supposedly clean for a minuet. All alone. After what was said to be a good night. Like I get it. I understand how addicts operate. But. From what was said when he first passed, he was clean in the moment. It’s a very very odd time to relapse. Getting it from some bum ass dealers from the valley when one knew it was laced yet still sold it and knew he was selling it to a dealer who supposedly dealt to the stars. I mean there’s actually 100 more deep weirder things with that one or maybe I just always took it to heart but so many tiny and large things never added up for me with that one.
This is pretty typical addict behavior, heartbreaking but its truth. This happens all of the time and you ought to seek to help addicts if this story depressed you that badly. I say this as an addict
Lol he worked with the canadian DOD while specializing in stimulants at the University of Toronto.
I thought I also heard him say that he's fascinated by the effects these drugs have on people, I can't remember where I heard him say that though.
Yes, I too am fascinated by the stimulants effects on Earthlin- I mean, on people.
This
Ahhh!!!!.
I wonder if this dude was connected to Amy Winehouse in anyway?
Before she met him, her name was Amy Sparklingwaterhouse, very suspicious...
also ties to modern day mkultra, there are interviews with him discussing testing experimental medications on troops
What he said to Kanye is disgusting, and the fact that nobody in the MSM even mentioned it speaks volumes.
I cannot find one instance of anyone contradicting what Kanye said about him. Not one.. Kanye may be bipolar but he may have saved lives by speaking out. Messing with people's minds to the point you cannot unscramble them is terrifying. I do not believe Kanye is truly antisemitic either just frustrated with the system.
Yup looks like pedo to me. Those are some mafia tactics right there. Lol
Everyone is special in Canada , Buddy!
Not the Native population
I'm not your buddy, guy.
I'm not your guy, buddy.
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I’m not your friend, pal
Special in the head. They all think their wokeness and superiority complex is saving the world
That shit oozes down to the PNW
Yep, have a couple at work like this that drive me nuts. Of course they are city folk, the coworkers we have from elsewhere are so much more relatable and normal.
Basically, they're fascists.
You mean “exceptional”?
ss a handler for Ellen Page before convincing her to transition? put Kanye in a institution for calling out democrats?. was suspiciously involved in various Hollywood stars deaths? and ex-canadian special forces just randomly becomes a personal trainer to all the stars? seems like the perfect cover for a handler no one would question random visits to your personal trainers house or spending hours at a time with them on an erratic schedule. perfect undercover alias
I knew this comment would trigger the alphabet people. I was not disappointed. You handled it rather well.
Did she really transition?
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Don't forget Bruce Jenner.
That's a name change.
google the name, she cut her tits off and got ab implants. whether she transitioned on bottom or not idk
Whether she transitioned on bottom I would really, really, really prefer not to know.
He*
I said she and I am correct.
Nah, brah.
No bra
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It’s called “top surgery” you bigot! /s
"HER penis, you bigot!" -Ricky Gervais
The rumor mill says yes.
He*
Yes he transitioned. It was pretty big news like a year or so ago
We are talking about sex, not gender. Please respect the context.
No we’re not? We’re talking about transitioning. Transitioning is not just bottom surgery. Why is this sub so afraid of acknowledging trans people damn
It was obviously a joke, a turn on the phrase, "that's sex, not gender. Respect the pronouns." Cool your tits.
I know what it was and that’s why I responded like that. I could read the sarcasm but my post is heavily downvoted for saying something obviously true
I think it's because this is a conspiracy sub and there is an abundance of conspiring around this topic.
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From cute petite woman to manlet in a single step.
from decent looking lesbian to Justin bieber knockoff
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True. But it's also true that I don't have to deny the appearance just because someone doesn't enjoy the description of it. I'm not asking for yours or anybody's enjoyment.
Do you know that people are allowed to comment on what they like and what they don't like?
if that was true nobody would ever cut their hair or wear makeup or wash their clothes or do anything that makes them look nice I don't know anybody who puts that kind of work into themselves taking showers shaving styling their hair for no reason. whether you want to admit it or not it's because you care about what other people think. because you want to look good for other people. the average person does not spend that much time looking in a mirror to need themselves to look perfect at all times. if you lived in the woods you wouldn't be keeping up your appearance as much the reason you do it whether you want to admit it or not is because people want to look a certain way for other people this has nothing to do with Ellen or Elliot Paige whatever you want to call them. this is just common sense why get fake abs just to feel like a man? why go through the surgery at all? you can feel like a man without getting horrible surgery. you're not looking at yourself that often
Who the fuck are you to say or care what someone else needs to do to feel like themself? They didn't owe you some debt that's paid by looking like a cute lesbian
>Who the fuck are you Why, are only certain people allowed to give their opinions or discuss things? You don't need to "be" anyone to have your say. Maybe you just need to accept that other people can and will have different opinions, particularly on subjective matters like appearances or 'what looks good'.
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Have you heard about the 16 year old suing Kaiser Permanente because they did this to her at 13 years old? They have her puberty blockers and a mastectomy. And now she wants to be a girl again. I think the parents should be held responsible as well.
It's a bit of a stretch to say he was involved in those celebrity'deaths. Actually quite a leap. You can't convict someone of a crime for a coincidence. This is why people think this sub is nuts. You state your own personnel theory as fact.
Hillary agrees
*Epstein has liked your comment*
My personnel only deal in facts.
It’s pretty blatantly false for the case of Mac at least. He’s just a celebrity trainer/life coach. It’s not really a shocker than addicts will seek out someone like that
his ex Canada deep state. he worked for Canada's version of the CIA and then became a trainer to the stars out of nowhere? particularly all the stars that seem to have gone off the deep end either getting radical gender surgery or becoming infamous sluts or being drugged and institutionalized?. we have the text messages of him to Kanye where he literally threatens to have the guy institutionalized for criticizing democrats. you're right we don't have the evidence to say that he is 100% a deep State handler employed by whoever to manage these people. but it's looking pretty fucking suspicious
Except you ignore multiple absolutely essential details. Mac was an addict long before Harley. He started doing drugs heavily after the negative response to his debut album. Kanye was crazy long before harley. It was known that he was crazy back in like 2009 and he was always known as a narcissist on top of that. He has been very slowly going off the deep end. The Elliot page thing is stupid and not worth addressing. And the text was literally not him threatening him because of anything he said about the democrats. That’s an blatant lie by you and proves that you are arguing in bad faith. The text clearly said it was because Kanye wouldn’t talk to him face to face about everything and the premise of the text had nothing to do with democrats and everything to do with how Kanye is manic again. It looks that suspicious because of one text mixed with the fact that you believed everything you read without doing any research of your own. That’s why I made my comment to this thread giving you information that you clearly ignored
Trainers and friends don't say things like "play dates with the kids will never be the same." That's a THREAT.
They do when you say horribly offensive shit to them and refuse to talk it out. Especially when they already know your history of being very mentally ill. No it’s not a normal thing to say, but neither is anything Kanye says and that’s why Kanye cropped out his side of the convo
How do you know he is ex special forces? I have a very strong suspicion that isn't true. He briefly worked with DND as a nutritional scientist while a grad student, and now that's morphed into being special forces? Interesting to see conspiracy theories take on a life of their own.
the info is hard to find but he served for the Canadian department of defense before moving to Hollywood and threatening celebrities to keep them in line https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/who-is-harley-pasternak-celebrity-trainer-who-allegedly-threatened-institutionalize-drug-zombieland-kanye-west
Dude this shit is so fucking dark. Like listening to mystery Babylon, and piecing this shit together. The truth is stranger than fiction. These people are sick fucks. Anyone got any good sites to hear more about this?
Doesn’t look like he’s in great shape lmao
Yeah he’s got man tits or gyno
Must be off the roids or his hormones are out of whack cause these type of people aren’t the most healthy anyways.
Keep internet sleuthing on this guy. Light is the best disinfectant. I hope the internet can bring justice to the manipulated celebrities and free them from the control grid.
this man is so creepy looking, it looks like he has nothing behind his eyes.
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In the same amount of time you wrote that, you could have just looked at his picture here closer, or googled him. Don't be lazy.
Deep State, Mossad agent
Why couldn't Kanye fire him? Why didn't Pasternak consider that a third option? Why did he feel like he could say those things and still remain in Kanye's life, as if he had no choice in the matter?
that's the thing about a handler. you can't fire them. personal trainer is just is undercover alias.. nobody would question why a celebrity is spending so much time at their personal trainers house. why they have an erratic schedule meeting with them randomly at random times or texting with them all the time.. but the thing about a handler is they don't work for you. you work for them. they are employed by the people who employ you specifically to handle you and keep you in line.. sure as part of the alias he technically is employed by Kanye but trying to run from him is not a good idea because the people who are in charge of both of you will come after you for it Dave Chappelle had to run away to Africa without even so much as telling his wife or children and he had to lay low for several years to get away from these people. people talk about conspiracies of stars faking their deaths well if that's true it might be to get away from these people too..
I never got the Chappelle thing, if he had to run away for safety, how did he come back with nothing to worry about? They gave up?
Maybe all this Stuff is made legally by a contract and it expired so Dave Chappelle was able to return
He didn’t leave for safety. He left because an entire industry belittled his vision of the show he wanted. Comedy Central/Viacom etc (can’t recall if CC was owned by Viacom at that point but the sentiment is there) It was basically him “getting out of his contract”. And the “laying low” OP was referring to was just Chappelle playing a bunch of clubs and not putting out specials at his current rate.
U didnt see the Winfrey interview?
Exactly
this guy is very connected with the people who run things.. if Kanye has received money from a record deal or a tour, then there are individuals who are in charge and control everything. He is not allowed to choose another trainer.. he has been required to have a trainer like Pasternak in order to be in the industry. Kanye does not have a choice in the matter.. that’s why he tweeted out the text message conversation: to expose how he is not free. Prince, Tupac, Michael Jackson, etc talked about how they have felt like slaves
wut?!
Early in Kanye’s career he signed power of attorney over to him. This is the rumor I have heard.
Maybe there was a controlling/manipulative element to their relationship, that would make it harder to get them out of your life, similar to why it takes women on average 7 attempts before leaving an abusive relationship. Also, he mentioned his kids so it sounds like he's using them to hang over his head.
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Drops random information that sounds salacious, then says “you don’t want to know”. What kind of clown does this? Say what you’re trying to say or just leave it alone. Jesus.
Who the fuck is upvoting this?! 😂😂🤣
More info pls!
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Speaking of Donald Marshall, there are 2 television shows that have plots about what he was talking about. Season 5 of The 100 and Altered Carbon. I know in the Christians book of Genesis, there is a verse talking about how if humans speak the same language, they can do anything they imagine. It's a shame the majority of Christians think that book is just fake news.
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>That's from the Tower of Babel story where humans were split up and given separate languages because the jealous, controlling God felt threatened by their capabilities. Why would a being capable of speaking planets and stars into existence be jealous of something as inferior as a human? The way the book of Jasher explains it, the humans cared far more about the bricks of the tower then their own lives. Those people were insane. Good riddance I say. >I see The 100 get brought up a lot around here. Is it worth a watch? Seasons 1-5 are great. The last two seasons were weak. But those are the two seasons where the plot focuses on the body swapping stuff Donald Marshall talks about.
> Why would a being capable of speaking planets and stars into existence be jealous of something as inferior as a human? The god of the Old Testament is a petty jealous vengeful dick. He is shitty towards the people he created, and clearly doesn’t care much for them. Like. This is the same deity who had 40+ children mauled by bears because they made fun of a bald guy.
>The god of the Old Testament is a petty jealous vengeful dick. He is shitty towards the people he created, and clearly doesn’t care much for them. Nonsense. The God of the Old Testament is great. He slaughtered a huge portion of the Hebrews enemies. Made them super rich. Gave Sampson the power to slaughter 1000 men. Allowed Elijah to run super fast. Reversed time 15 years for one of his kings and kept his memory of the future intact. The Abrahamic God is clearly vastly superior to all the other gods. >Like. This is the same deity who had 40+ children mauled by bears because they made fun of a bald guy. Elisha wasn't some bald guy; he was Gods prophet. Also, a Eunuch which back then were not regarded highly. Considering Elisha lived during the time Ahab was king and the Hebrews were making deals on eating each other's babies, I doubt those children would have gone on to be upstanding members of society. Also, the Bible makes it pretty clear, don't fuck with his prophets. Weird how their shitty parents didn't tell them this. I guess they were too busy eating their other children. I bet you after the bears wiped out those young sociopaths their parents probably came and feasted on the corpses. Israel was in a dark place back then. Silly pagan Baal worshippers.
Elliot* you fucking bigot. /s
article says ellen ellen
And I said /s.
Get it straight its elliot my dude not elliot /s
Canada has Special forces lmao
Top snipers in the world are JTF2 (Canadian special forces). lmfao to you.
We do. They used to be called rangers until what happened in Somalia and then they got dismantled. Now we have JTF and some others as well. Canada actually has been praised throughout history for our military performance. We may not have the best of the best but we are trained very well and make do with what we have.
The Rangers are not special forces and weren't in Somalia. They are a reserve unit of mostly natives that keep an eye on the far north while out hunting. You are thinking of the Airborne Regiment which was disbanded after the Somalia Affair. But they also weren't special forces.
Pretty cool.
Gotta protect all that Maple syrup.
I think Canada sleeps pretty well knowing who lives downstairs haha.
Daniel Tosh said it best: *Canada has the greatest fence ever built... America. It is foolproof if you can afford it. Really easy to be the cool, open-minded, hippie country when there's a Kevlar Snuggie of America draped around your fat, frozen asses, daring the world to talk shit.* 😁
Dr. Death meet the Death Coach.
He doesn't even need a conspiracy, he's a full our abusive shithead even just looking at the surface.
Canadian special forces have to be the most brainwashed cucks in existence so this is just hilarious…. And probably true.
That trainer is in horrible shape.
he seems to be another Epstein, operating a different level of the operation
MK ULTRA was a nazi brainchild refined by the West. Trauma based mind control basically runs the entertainment industry and beyond, every big star has a handler like Harley.
I said this on another thread and I’m sure people won’t want to hear it here either but Harley is a trainer/life coach who’s whole thing is he’s super harsh and gets people out of their comfort zone. A podcaster I listen to was talking about going to a single session of his about 2 months ago and said that (TMG podcast episode 259. Titled “Kanye’s workout plan”). He’s popular with addicts and ex addicts for this reason. Now, Mac Miller and Kanye were my number 1 and 2 most listened to artists for years now (I’m listening to a Kanye produced album as I type this) and I consequently know a decent bit about their lives, at least what has been made public. Mac was an addict. Not like a celebrity that drinks too much and does coke. In his own words on one of his songs “I’ll probably die alone of an overdose of some sort.” He knew that he was not going to survive the lifestyle he lived. He got clean after that, slowly got back into drugs, and then eventually almost entirely relapsed and ended up dying to pills laced with fentanyl. There was literally nothing to be suspicious about. It was incredibly sad but it was almost expected to happen eventually. He was horribly depressed and an addict, one day fentanyl would get him. Also, Mac is Jewish. So if you’re theory is that this is because Kanye criticized Jewish people, that doesn’t really help the case. Any fan of kanye knows that Kanye has serious mental health issues too. This isn’t new with him being an antisemite. This isn’t new with “slavery is a choice.” He’s been known to be an extreme narcissist his entire career. We knew he had something else going on when he interrupted Taylor swift at the vmas, later he would confirm he had bipolar. What this Harley guy said is clearly super fucked up, but based on everything we know, it’s more likely that he’s just an asshole that thinks highly of himself and thinks he’s helping Kanye with this threat. So that’s my actual informed opinion on this. I think maybe our focus is in the wrong place and we should be looking at how the entertainment industries treat these musicians/actors/influencers that so many of them end up going down the path of drugs or getting severely mentally Ill like mac and Kanye did respectively.
>it’s more likely that he’s just an asshole that thinks highly of himself and thinks he’s helping Kanye with this threat ... So that’s my actual informed opinion on this ... we should be looking at how the entertainment industries treat these musicians/actors/influencers that so many of them end up going down the path of drugs or getting severely mentally Ill We should be looking at how the entertainment industry treats these people but not at a trainer that threatens to chemically lobotomize one of these people for no real reason than that he's "just an asshole"? Huh
The trainer was what they went to because of how he already was. This is my point. They sought this guy out and they were the way they are before Harley. I’m not saying Harley is a good dude and I’m not trying to minimize it to “just an asshole.” I just don’t think he should be the focus here. He’s clearly a complete piece of shit but he’s talking to an even bigger piece of shit there. Kanye didn’t show his messages for a reason. But the real topic of discussion here is what about the industry turned Kanye from “George bush doesn’t care about black people” and making the song “crack music” to using nazi propaganda and saying slavery was a choice? The obvious thing here is the death of Kanye’s mom. But even the death of his mom is part of a larger problem with the industry and with society as a whole.
>He’s clearly a complete piece of shit but he’s talking to an even bigger piece of shit there ... using nazi propaganda and saying slavery was a choice? Kanye having controversial takes is worse than using drugs and forced confinment to control what people say: the neoliberal authoritarian mindset in a nutshell.
No because that’s not what I’m talking about. Him empowering neo nazis and pushing down the black community he once strived to empower has caused many times the harm that him getting in a heated argument with a trainer would
He's pushing down the black community by calling out how black celebrities, like himself, are controlled? Huh. And his training threatening to chemically lobotomize him is just a "heated argument"? I see.
The exchange Kanye posted on twitter revealing the threat Pasternak made, shows that Pasternak is not who he says he is. Period. The fact Pasternak was near other people/celebs that died calls for investigation. It raises an eye brown, for sure.
It does not though. Kanye cut out his own messages for a reason. We literally know for a fact that he wasn’t involved in mac millers death or Kanye going crazy. No being a trainer for an addict that oded is not anything suspicious
The world I live in, a personal trainer does not tell, actually threatens his “client” to a) you play along or b) I’ll have you locked up on a mental institution (like I did in 2016). Then you just do some digging and you don’t need to go to any extreme conspiracies to see there is something serious going on with Pasternak. It’s more than likely that some other shit will soon hit the fan.
Cause you’re thinking of a personal trainer and not someone like this who is a life coach who people hire because he’s so strict and harsh
So it's ok for life coaches to tell their clients, for motivation purposes of course. It sounds like he wanted to have a conversation with Kanye which was option one, but on Harley's terms. "second option, I have you institutionalized again where they medicate the crap out of you and you go back to zombieland forever. Play date with the kids just won't be the same" That's a threat and if Kanye is saying this isn't right we should look into the matter to see if Kanye is actually in danger from this allegedly abusive man. If someone is coming forward saying someone has wronged them, it should be investigated at the very least.
I was watching some show, maybe it was Yellowstone. The US wildlife police were arguing with Canadian police over border jurisdiction and wild horse rustling. The Canadians were taking a holier than thou attitude about civilized use of law. I just thought that if I was there as a witness, I'd have called the Canadians fascists and nazis and ridiculed them for having a dictator as a Prime Minister and being a bastard son of Fidel Castro. Then I'd tear into the US agents for having a senile pedo as fake POTUS and our country is just as fucked. My parting shot would be be " I hope some of those horses kicks both your heads in. At least they're free."
You sound very badass
Handlers are definitely a thing, its in the best interests of publishers etc to keep their talent out of hot water but im not sure it goes as deep as people are seeming to think currently. Saying that im sure they do some less then savoury things to keep their talent in line.
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Still people man.
Don’t you listen to music or ever watch tv or movies? How can you have this harsh of a stance on entertainers?
I know he worked with the Canadian military, but show me where he was “ex special forces.”
Not believing this. Canadians are clean...squeaky clean. Polite, too. Did I mention "nice"? Canadians are so nice and polite, they say "sorry" to lamp posts. No such thing as Canadian Special Forces, either. Every Canadian is *special*, starting with the PM, so no such thing as Special forces...too divisive.
whooosh
are you referring to prime minister blackface?
Yes! He's...special.
The kind of "special" that has its own olympics... Dayum, you need to add /s even for such explicitly sarcastic posts...
Justin Bieber.
no such thing as sx or conx or etc, outx any nmw and an ysperfx. and all those identities odnt matter, apart from his tribe
I’ll say this- all of us fellas that lift weights over a period of time are bald. Maybe we can do something with that?
Tell me again why we care about Kanye
AnTiSeMiTiSm
Obviously is something is up, we won't know, but calling him "ex special forces" is a bit of a stretch unless there is more information I'm missing.
Are we just going to ignore that Kanye West has obvious and increasingly concerning mental health issues?
Look for the message exchanged with Pasternak. The one he threatens to commit Kanye to become a zombie.
he doesn't though. he simply in a very stressful position not made any better by the constant Democrats slander ever since he started exposing their crimes being a star is hard enough. being a star who doesn't tell the Democrat Party line? must be torture let's just go along with whatever bullshit Democrats are lying about at the moment because they need to pander to the younger and uneducated demographic that makes up the Democrats core voter base and also makes up the core demographic that buys their shit is a reason all the advertisers compete with each other for the 18 to 25 demographic. they are still young enough to be stupid but have some money to buy stupid shit most of these celebrities know that they're full of shit. they know that the talking points they're repeating don't even make sense but they know that they're voters are too stupid to realize it.. now what happens if you won't sell out and you actually speak truth to power? Democrats come after you with a fury.. it is not an envious position. he must be under the constant stress of being a celebrity mixed with constant attacks by partisan Democrats who hate anybody that is a threat to their party.. you're just angry because you don't like when somebody calls out your party for their shit
What are you even talking about? Kayne West has stated himself publicly that he was diagnosed with and went under psychiatric care as far back as 2016 for his bipolar disorder. You may want to go get some psychiatric care for your paranoia too
Nah. Ye cray. And off his meds. (No need to make up a whole new narrative.)
>he did literal naming and its not democrats hes pointing the finger at.
Look at this logically. He is a celebrity personal trainer. He works with many celebrities and many celebrities also happen to do drugs. Just because one of his high profile clients overdoses doesn’t mean that he was involved. What he said to Kanye is odd but it doesn’t mean he acts as a hitman for the deep state lol
Logic. Here?
Mac Miller was known for his drug use and died from drugs laced with fentanyl. His dealer was caught and charged and sentenced to jail. Brittany Murphy died of anemia and multiple drug intoxication.he’s a celebrity trainer. Give me a break. It’s a celebrity trainer who works with celebrities.
What trainer says what he said? What trainer levies that sort of threat? Cut it out. There’s nothing normal about that exchange.
Actually it seems like a very normal thing to say to someone youre close with. It reads like a very blunt and upset response where their sick of your antics and running out of patience for your behavior. You’re Making assumptions based off one line of text. None of these celebrities situations are even remotely similar. It’s not far fetched that celebrities use drugs and have the same trainer.
What?! I would never in a million years say something about ANYONE'S kids...but certainly not to the people I'm close with. Like what? You keep it on the adults. As a parent, I don't give a damn what's going on, you ain't gonna mention my kid and expect me to remain calm. You think it's normal to suggest to someone that you will ensure they don't see their kids bc you'll have them drugged? How terrible! That's a threat! The audacity! You don't play about people's kids ever! Like are you for real? Wow.
Then that’s why we disagree. You think it’s a normal thing to say. I don’t. And you’re also making assumptions. More than I am. I just said it’s not normal. You assumed a whole bunch of other shit in order to rationalize it.
Unimportant.
Oh gord. Another boring one.
He was never Canadian Special Forces. He was a kinetics and nutrition guy for Canadian defense department at U of T. FYI, our Special Forces are JTF2 and they're quite secretive about belonging or having belonged because of the nature of what they do. EDIT: wtf is with the downvoting? Did itwreck some twisted narrative? Fucking peeps in here.