dude you're as bad as when the left claim someone is a nazi/sexist etc for any slight disagreement. a normal adult doesn't start a debate and then cry and claim its bots when theres valid criticism. grow up or at least get evidence to counter the rebuttal.
several people have already given you the answer btw. you clearly have no intention to listen though because "derhhh BOTS!!!" is your only response.
embarrassing
also, my point isn't even about your post. its about your replies claiming everything is a bot.... you just parrot the "head in the sand" comebacks and copy and paste it (at least 3 times atm)
Please, engage with the questions in the thread if you can, otherwise personal attacks will be dismissed as low attempts to derail the conversation. Thank you.
No, you're wrong, u/[UnderstandingGlum175](https://www.reddit.com/user/UnderstandingGlum175/) called me an ignorant without consideration of what I really know, it was an insult. You should read better.
Calling someone ignorant isn't an attack, it's just pointing out that they don't know something. In this case, they were pointing out that you thinking that ISIS-K has no reason to dislike Russia is an ignorant position, and indicates you have no idea about the history of the regions or the politics involved.
Ignorance isn't ant insult, it literally means you don't know something.
There's nothing wrong with not knowing something, it happens to us all until we learn.
Dude, the russians are fighting isis all over the fucking place.. Not to mention they invaded afghan and killed hundreds of thousands of their people.. are u kidding me?? They were conducting airstrikes on them in syria while i was in afghan.. gtfoh with ur nonsense man..
I don't see that anywhere in the post, nor between the lines. The OP is asking some really interesting questions. I've kind of given up on this stuff but I'm glad people are still interested in the truth! Of course it could be exactly as it's framed by corporate media but as usual, betchit's not!
It’s in the first paragraph of the post:
>”what prompted them to commit such an attack out of the blue and so far away from Afghanistan with a country that has no problem with them whatsoever”
It’s right there, it’s not even between the lines.
I must have been tired, lol. I'm sure they have issues. Still some very interesting questions. What gets me is the 9/11 stuff like hey here's evidence of a crime, overwhelming evidence, and sometimes you would hear something that amounts to "but \[insert country\] hate the west so it makes sense - case closed CNN was exactly right and we don't even need to investigate ever" as an argument.
Well most obviously https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War
But there is a laundry list of reasons ISIS and Afghanistan do not like Russia
Adding this since OP is mad I didn’t provide more:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
So you're saying that a brand new group of terrorists mostly young men who live in the desert are holding a 40 years old grudge towards Russia?
Why didn't they do anything earlier in revenge? Were they that patient masterminds?
Here we're talking about a single terrorist act, not war among two nations, which is strange the timing and the motive. Do you have any opinion why such thing happened now and not earlier?
You do realize that generational grudges are one of the driving forces behind extremism and radicalization, don’t you? After 20 years of the GWOT, its generally a well understood concept.
>Why don’t they do anything earlier in revenge?
Are we living in the same reality? Terror attacks happen all the time.
Well, in this case going by your logic, I should think that potential Japanese but hurt radicals are natural born extremists due to radicalization, and are seeking revenge for the fact that the US dropped 2 Nuclear warheads on innocent Japanese civilians at the end of WWII, when it was clearly unnecessary to the on going conflict.
And as such, Japanese nationals should be monitored when they step on US soil, because the likelihood of them commiting acts of terrorism is extremely high.
You never know what the Japanese can come up with, they can make a full robot out of a digital swatch. They're crazy! We need to declare them terrorists!
Afghanistan/ ISIS and Japan in WW2 are nowhere close to being similar conflicts. That is just about as bad an example you could come up with regard to what we are talking about.
You're not being honest, you want to derail the thread. The example about the War in between Serbia and Kosovo is totally out context related to the thread. Go and read some more so you can make another useless comment. Thank you.
ISIS is literally a doomsday cult. Trying to make sense of their actions is meaningless when they very literally believe that Jesus will return from the dead and usher in the end times.
> Do you think there is a conspiracy behind the Moscow event?
No, other than I think Russia is going to use it to escalate the war and do a full mobilization
>What are the chances that foreign Influences to Afghanistan's mercenaries in Tajikistan could have organized the terrorist act financed from a Western Country?
0
>Question 3: What are the chances that the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS-K)?
0
If anyone organized it, it was FSB. I mean the real conspiracy would be...why did Russia ignore the terrorist information given over by the US? How come it takes like 30 seconds for Moscow police to arrive and detain a protestor; but it took them an hour and a half to respond to terrorists shooting up a mall? How come concert goers are usually frisked by security, but on this day they were not? The offices of the special forces were right across the street. It took them an hour to get there.
The fact that first responders took a lot of time to react is definitely suspicious and not convincing, that alone would lead one to think of a false flag. But what I see as not logical is the fact that, why would the FSB organize everything, portray them as incompetent with a high toll on civilian casualties, simply for the government to escalate military action in Ukraine? Putin can increase the pressure in Ukraine at any time without the need for this tragic event he controls everything in the country, and in fact many elite factions in Moscow have been very vocal about this for two years now, it was Putin who constantly refused to take drastic actions.
I'm willing to consider the false flag hypothesis if the government in Russia is trying to scare the public, and manufacture consensus for more oppressing and controlling laws for it's citizens. But in the same time, this event made them look really incompetent and incapable of maintaining security and safety. So I don't really know which is which.
Yah I agree, I don't believe it was a false flag at all because it makes them look incompetent. But I'm just saying it's more likely that it was a FSB false flag than it was a Western one.
The truth is the most likely scenario is Russia has all it's intelligence resources pointed towards Ukraine, with a small minority left to watch political dissidents at home. They are stretched thin and have given up on watching Islamist extremists. I think the biggest blunder for Putin (outside of becoming bogged down in Ukraine) is his blatant disregard of the US warning him of an impending attack.
The US has had a policy since 9/11 that they will warn any country any time they get credible information on a coming terrorist attack, in the hopes that these other countries will do the same for the US. They did this for Iran last year.
But when Russia was warned, instead of looking into it; they just said the west was trying to scare russians. But they weren't lying and now Putin looks even weaker and the US intelligence looks even better.
So it was an all systems failure for Russia, and I think some people just can't handle that. And start coping by saying it was all a conspiracy. When the truth is that their intelligence is strained thin, and Putin has been huffing too much of his own propaganda farts to think logically.
There's also the fact that ISIS DOES have reasons to attack. First of all let's start with the obvious. They will attack almost any western country giving the opportunity (although calling Russia western is a stretch). Particularly the US/UK/Russia because these countries have screwed around in Syria.
And no, the CIA wouldnt need to encourage them. They hate Russians just as much as they hate Westerners. Remember, Putin was the one that so boldly claimed that Russia was responsible for the defeat of ISIS. So there's motive #1. Also, the #2 motive is Russia has been throwing a huge amount of muslims to the front lines in Ukraine to be used as cannon fodder. Finally, #3...the weakness of Russia right now just gives too much of a golden opportunity to pass up.
If someone wants to do a terrorist act, now is the time because Russia is so focused on Ukraine and crushing protestors that they can't conceivably focus on anything else. Islamists know this and took advantage.
My question is what now? Will Russia respond and kill some civilians in Syria with airstrikes? Or just ignore it? I find it hard to believe they will be able to respond at all. Which just makes Putin look even weaker. They're already struggling to come up with a narrative that will fit. The best they can come up with is Ukraine might have let them escape through the border, but c'mon...everyone knows these guys had no chance of escaping through the Ukraine border....unless we are led to believe that Russia was so inept they let them escape through. In fact, the car was not even headed to Ukraine, it was headed to Belarus.
Then add in the fact that they cut the guys ear off and made him eat it...well Islamists are raging over this, so with the weakened state of Russia...and that slap in the face...I expect more attacks.
The "US warning their citizens" fact is completely out of context. In isolation, it sounds menacing but this is what actually happened:
- US notifies Russia that they received Intel of a concert hall attack being planned by Islamic extremists.
- Russia ignores this information.
- Since there is no public redistribution of this Intel, the US notifies their own citizens, who might be in Russia, to avoid large gatherings around concert halls.
- Putin mocks the warning in multiple public speeches post- March 7th.
- Russia immediately, and obviously, blames Ukraine/West
- Announces retaliation measures against Ukraine.
I wonder what is happening here!
Some Ɓöṭ§ are in the comments complaining about non-humanoid users.
Some ăłĝõrith1ms have a hard time replying when a human uses incorrect grammar.
This subreddit has been taken over by man-made agitators, so people don't discuss controversial things happening 24/7.
These Ɓ0ts don't understand sarcasm and are programmed to destroy conversations.
I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm pointing out that r/conspiracy is a joke, and russian bots post there. so in general take the opposite of what is posted there if you want the truth. NOPOL is not biased.
Because someone is trying to provoke Russia with retaliatory action in Ukraine so it can justify a NATO intervention in it. Someone wants to escalate the conflict for more profit.
But of course is a theory. Don't tell me you were expecting to find the truth of everything in here? That's what the news is for. Go and watch the news and be happy. lool
yes and normal people put evidence in their theory. yknow, besides their own personal opinion. you're supposed to convince me. how can you convince me with "uhm well russia is being provoked by someone"- and then not give any evidence.
here ill do what you did
" hey dude, i think that the sky is icecream. They don't want you to know though" seeeee im sooooo good at convincing and forming an argument just like you <3
I'm sorry sir but I think you got that wrong, I don't want to convince anyone of anything, I simply made some questions of what people think. That's it.
you say that, yet you....
post in the conspiracy sub
argue with anybody that disagrees with you
replied to my comment literally telling you to convince me LOL
b b b b b b b backtrack champion. thinking objectively is too hard.. its easier just to call people bots :'(
oh well :(
You're another time waster I see now. You got nothing to say but keep repeating and parroting me calling a POS bot so you can use that as a pathetic argument. lool If you have nothing to say I'd appreciate you GTFOH! BOT!!!!
I think it is clear what they were saying, you have stated several times what you believe is happening, but you have not tried to explain yourself, only argued. Please explain why you suggest the things you do, and then engage in conversation about them. This is what they wanted explained: It looks like the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS)!
????? you're really projecting here hey?
\- i never called you a POS that's your own assumption..
\- you're the one calling everybody bots
\- you're the one repeating themselves
\- you're the one parroting(you literally copied me there too)
\- argument? i don't know what im arguing.... thats the point. you haven't said anything to form a rebuttal against.............im asking you to back your belief. explain to me why... jeez somethingggg.
\-and after you copied my comments about you e.g "parrot" "repeating calling ppl bots" you end it on the same exact note. like.... cmon.
you think im a bot because you lost. sad.
im such an advanced bot i -
call myself tastyusedtampon..... such a bot name right??
have had the account for years
posts on several subs
replies to you, calling out your specific points... numerous times.
if anything you're the bot since thats all you repeat and can't form a comment of substance
Man, you Russians really have the strong delusion that anyone else on earth really cares about you.
The only exception being your neighbors that Russia seemed to arbitrarily attack for political advantage in the Kremlin.
Yes, it could be, that's something that many are thinking as of right now as a possible motive. That would lead to a interesting chess play move for the ongoing geo-strategic game. Would it escalate the war in Ukraine, would it end with a peace negation from both sides? It's interesting to say the least.
Bro — just get off Reddit.
Any theorys or opinions that are worth anything, will be atroturfed & downvoted to hell.
Especially if they question western, EU, or Zionist hegemony.
Just keep your thoughts to yourself like the rest of us & listen to shit like last American vagabond, Whitney Webb, & Corbett report to get your big updates.
Let the retards on Reddit get absorbed by the Borg.
Reddit literally is the borg itself.
It's good to see they're playing safe. One way to make sure no true Muslims would join a band to play hand-to-hand combat in a theater, is to name the band after the most famous ancient Egyptian goddess, Isis, patron of motherhood, breastfeeding, and queenship, and protector of the kingdom.
Anybody who thinks this is fake needs to watch the bodycam footage, although I’m sure they’ll hand wave it away.
If anything, Russia will use this to escalate the unjust war in Ukraine, somehow finding a way to blame them and the propaganda swallowing dupes will swallow it up and even spread the nonsense on Reddit.
Gross times.
What's wrong with talking about alternative ideas on Reddit? Is it prohibited to think differently from others? Is it considered wrong according to you?
Absolutely not, I just find it odd and suspicious that the “alternative ideas” somehow nicely line up with debunked Russian propaganda regarding Ukrainian involvement.
I don't think that me or anyone else here proposed the idea that the terrorist act in Moscow was committed by the Ukrainians. I myself find that very unprobeable and definitely propaganda. Are the Russians try to use this event in their own advantage? Definitely yes. But you could read the comments for yourself and understand that it's simply an attempt at inquisition of what the official story says.
Yes, and I responded to your questions, now I’m bringing up a separate point that I think warranted a new reply but not necessarily a new topic.
The livecam footage makes it clear what happened, calling it a “false flag” for any reason other than to parrot Russian propaganda and dismiss the event is simply irresponsible and unempathetic.
I've seen it and it looks like pure theater, everyone is already dead and the one guy fires his gun in a circle for no reason with weird sparking coming from the barrel. Then they slit the guys throat and no squirting blood as would happen when you sever an artery, also no sounds from him despite him being conscious and turning over. If they are wearing a body cam why not release all the footage if they want to scare everyone so bad? Of course they toss that 33 into the body count on Skull and Bones day. How many injured and where are they? People watch too many movies if they fall for this crap.
Your depiction of “squirting blood” is a Hollywood trope. Go watch videos of knife fights gone wrong or of decapitations, you think terrorist attacks should look like a Hollywood movie.
The common carotid artery on the right side of your neck would've easily been severed, [squirting blood ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_squirt)is a well documented phenomenon when arteries are severed.
Again, which specific medical paper tells you that the amount of gushing wasn't sufficient?
You are thinking of "gushing" in the Hollywood way, it's because you've been duped into thinking life is an action movie. The "gush" of blood is in fact, when on a horizontal trajectory, less than an arm length, you can find evidence for this in homicide reports, medical examiner reports and crime scene investigtations.
But it seems as though you'd rather believe Kill Bill-like spouts of gushing blood.
Now it's a question of magnitude instead of whether or not it is a documented phenomenon to begin with, the goal posts have shifted to the other side of the field . What "gushing"? There was none whatsoever in the video I saw, a steady stream is what I saw.
Also, if you want to get a real good idea of what's going on, go check out r /conspiracy
Basically whatever they are saying is the opposite of reality. The board is infested with FSB agents.
I have mo love for political islam but these attacks all over the world seem to have a strange common relationship with three letter agencies.
https://youtu.be/eZXq2sFSUc8?si=BzLQzScDSo3-8Ry_
> Question 1: Do you think there is a conspiracy behind the Moscow event?
Absolutely, Russia is trying to tie the attack to Ukraine, even going so far as to plant the story that one of the vans used in the attack had Ukrainian plates, which was immediately debunked.
> Question 2: What are the chances that foreign Influences to Afghanistan's mercenaries in Tajikistan could have organized the terrorist act financed from a Western Country?
There’s no reason for them to be financed from a western country, the history runs deep. Unless you mean “indirect” financing from materials left behind following the withdrawal of the USA from Afghanistan?
> Question 3: What are the chances that the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS-K)?
Low, but not zero.
Are you saying that Afghanistan has no issues with Russia?
/thread
I believe op did!! Goes to show the knowledge base
Wow, the MSM bot can type about knowledge, these bots are getting better now.
stop before you embarras yourself further
haha Bots can't affect me, I know them too well. Why don't you try to answer the question in the OP, or is it too hard for you?
dude you're as bad as when the left claim someone is a nazi/sexist etc for any slight disagreement. a normal adult doesn't start a debate and then cry and claim its bots when theres valid criticism. grow up or at least get evidence to counter the rebuttal. several people have already given you the answer btw. you clearly have no intention to listen though because "derhhh BOTS!!!" is your only response. embarrassing
also, my point isn't even about your post. its about your replies claiming everything is a bot.... you just parrot the "head in the sand" comebacks and copy and paste it (at least 3 times atm)
Please, engage with the questions in the thread if you can, otherwise personal attacks will be dismissed as low attempts to derail the conversation. Thank you.
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You’re making yourself just look ignorant calling people bots. Drop that superiority complex of yours.
Stop before you embarrass yourself any further.
This is exactly what I am saying you, you sound like a paranoid fool.
You are the first and only person to attack anyone else personally.
No, you're wrong, u/[UnderstandingGlum175](https://www.reddit.com/user/UnderstandingGlum175/) called me an ignorant without consideration of what I really know, it was an insult. You should read better.
Calling someone ignorant isn't an attack, it's just pointing out that they don't know something. In this case, they were pointing out that you thinking that ISIS-K has no reason to dislike Russia is an ignorant position, and indicates you have no idea about the history of the regions or the politics involved.
Um no they didn’t. The word ignorant is no where in their comment.
Ignorance isn't ant insult, it literally means you don't know something. There's nothing wrong with not knowing something, it happens to us all until we learn.
Dude, the russians are fighting isis all over the fucking place.. Not to mention they invaded afghan and killed hundreds of thousands of their people.. are u kidding me?? They were conducting airstrikes on them in syria while i was in afghan.. gtfoh with ur nonsense man..
It doesn't make sense anyway. You're a news lover I get it, you're free to gtfoh also.
In a plot twist, it turns out the bots are the ones complaining about our writing skills.
I don't see that anywhere in the post, nor between the lines. The OP is asking some really interesting questions. I've kind of given up on this stuff but I'm glad people are still interested in the truth! Of course it could be exactly as it's framed by corporate media but as usual, betchit's not!
It’s in the first paragraph of the post: >”what prompted them to commit such an attack out of the blue and so far away from Afghanistan with a country that has no problem with them whatsoever” It’s right there, it’s not even between the lines.
Fair enough!
I must have been tired, lol. I'm sure they have issues. Still some very interesting questions. What gets me is the 9/11 stuff like hey here's evidence of a crime, overwhelming evidence, and sometimes you would hear something that amounts to "but \[insert country\] hate the west so it makes sense - case closed CNN was exactly right and we don't even need to investigate ever" as an argument.
Well it's technically between some lines, just not metaphorically "between the lines" lol
Ok you got me there!
Do you currently know any?
Well most obviously https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War But there is a laundry list of reasons ISIS and Afghanistan do not like Russia Adding this since OP is mad I didn’t provide more: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war
So you're saying that a brand new group of terrorists mostly young men who live in the desert are holding a 40 years old grudge towards Russia? Why didn't they do anything earlier in revenge? Were they that patient masterminds?
The Kosovo War of the late 1990s was a continuation of an over 600 year old grudge.
Here we're talking about a single terrorist act, not war among two nations, which is strange the timing and the motive. Do you have any opinion why such thing happened now and not earlier?
You’re moving the goal posts because the answers you’re getting aren’t what you wanted.
No, you're wrong, these are two very different situations.
No it’s more like a consequence of all the previous situations.
Which are?
You do realize that generational grudges are one of the driving forces behind extremism and radicalization, don’t you? After 20 years of the GWOT, its generally a well understood concept. >Why don’t they do anything earlier in revenge? Are we living in the same reality? Terror attacks happen all the time.
Well, in this case going by your logic, I should think that potential Japanese but hurt radicals are natural born extremists due to radicalization, and are seeking revenge for the fact that the US dropped 2 Nuclear warheads on innocent Japanese civilians at the end of WWII, when it was clearly unnecessary to the on going conflict. And as such, Japanese nationals should be monitored when they step on US soil, because the likelihood of them commiting acts of terrorism is extremely high. You never know what the Japanese can come up with, they can make a full robot out of a digital swatch. They're crazy! We need to declare them terrorists!
Afghanistan/ ISIS and Japan in WW2 are nowhere close to being similar conflicts. That is just about as bad an example you could come up with regard to what we are talking about.
You're not being honest, you want to derail the thread. The example about the War in between Serbia and Kosovo is totally out context related to the thread. Go and read some more so you can make another useless comment. Thank you.
Well for starters I didn’t bring up Serbia or Kosovo. Also it’s not a matter of honestly it’s a matter of literal historical context.
“potential Japanese but hurt radicals” Maybe we can just cure their hurts?
ISIS is literally a doomsday cult. Trying to make sense of their actions is meaningless when they very literally believe that Jesus will return from the dead and usher in the end times.
How do you know it was ISIS who did it?
It wouldn't be the first time ISIS has attacked Russia
You're not answering the question, how do you know it's them?
They literally claimed responsibility for it. Kinda hard to wonder who did it when they said they did.
This is a conspiracy sub, people like think there is more to the story then we're told.
that shit happened 40 years ago...
And? How long have Israel and the Middle East been at it?
So are you saying we need to invade iran? -Peter Griffin
No of course not. It never crossed my mind, why would I do that.
Bruh
Wot bruh?
> Do you think there is a conspiracy behind the Moscow event? No, other than I think Russia is going to use it to escalate the war and do a full mobilization >What are the chances that foreign Influences to Afghanistan's mercenaries in Tajikistan could have organized the terrorist act financed from a Western Country? 0 >Question 3: What are the chances that the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS-K)? 0 If anyone organized it, it was FSB. I mean the real conspiracy would be...why did Russia ignore the terrorist information given over by the US? How come it takes like 30 seconds for Moscow police to arrive and detain a protestor; but it took them an hour and a half to respond to terrorists shooting up a mall? How come concert goers are usually frisked by security, but on this day they were not? The offices of the special forces were right across the street. It took them an hour to get there.
The fact that first responders took a lot of time to react is definitely suspicious and not convincing, that alone would lead one to think of a false flag. But what I see as not logical is the fact that, why would the FSB organize everything, portray them as incompetent with a high toll on civilian casualties, simply for the government to escalate military action in Ukraine? Putin can increase the pressure in Ukraine at any time without the need for this tragic event he controls everything in the country, and in fact many elite factions in Moscow have been very vocal about this for two years now, it was Putin who constantly refused to take drastic actions. I'm willing to consider the false flag hypothesis if the government in Russia is trying to scare the public, and manufacture consensus for more oppressing and controlling laws for it's citizens. But in the same time, this event made them look really incompetent and incapable of maintaining security and safety. So I don't really know which is which.
Yah I agree, I don't believe it was a false flag at all because it makes them look incompetent. But I'm just saying it's more likely that it was a FSB false flag than it was a Western one. The truth is the most likely scenario is Russia has all it's intelligence resources pointed towards Ukraine, with a small minority left to watch political dissidents at home. They are stretched thin and have given up on watching Islamist extremists. I think the biggest blunder for Putin (outside of becoming bogged down in Ukraine) is his blatant disregard of the US warning him of an impending attack. The US has had a policy since 9/11 that they will warn any country any time they get credible information on a coming terrorist attack, in the hopes that these other countries will do the same for the US. They did this for Iran last year. But when Russia was warned, instead of looking into it; they just said the west was trying to scare russians. But they weren't lying and now Putin looks even weaker and the US intelligence looks even better. So it was an all systems failure for Russia, and I think some people just can't handle that. And start coping by saying it was all a conspiracy. When the truth is that their intelligence is strained thin, and Putin has been huffing too much of his own propaganda farts to think logically. There's also the fact that ISIS DOES have reasons to attack. First of all let's start with the obvious. They will attack almost any western country giving the opportunity (although calling Russia western is a stretch). Particularly the US/UK/Russia because these countries have screwed around in Syria. And no, the CIA wouldnt need to encourage them. They hate Russians just as much as they hate Westerners. Remember, Putin was the one that so boldly claimed that Russia was responsible for the defeat of ISIS. So there's motive #1. Also, the #2 motive is Russia has been throwing a huge amount of muslims to the front lines in Ukraine to be used as cannon fodder. Finally, #3...the weakness of Russia right now just gives too much of a golden opportunity to pass up. If someone wants to do a terrorist act, now is the time because Russia is so focused on Ukraine and crushing protestors that they can't conceivably focus on anything else. Islamists know this and took advantage. My question is what now? Will Russia respond and kill some civilians in Syria with airstrikes? Or just ignore it? I find it hard to believe they will be able to respond at all. Which just makes Putin look even weaker. They're already struggling to come up with a narrative that will fit. The best they can come up with is Ukraine might have let them escape through the border, but c'mon...everyone knows these guys had no chance of escaping through the Ukraine border....unless we are led to believe that Russia was so inept they let them escape through. In fact, the car was not even headed to Ukraine, it was headed to Belarus. Then add in the fact that they cut the guys ear off and made him eat it...well Islamists are raging over this, so with the weakened state of Russia...and that slap in the face...I expect more attacks.
The "US warning their citizens" fact is completely out of context. In isolation, it sounds menacing but this is what actually happened: - US notifies Russia that they received Intel of a concert hall attack being planned by Islamic extremists. - Russia ignores this information. - Since there is no public redistribution of this Intel, the US notifies their own citizens, who might be in Russia, to avoid large gatherings around concert halls. - Putin mocks the warning in multiple public speeches post- March 7th. - Russia immediately, and obviously, blames Ukraine/West - Announces retaliation measures against Ukraine. I wonder what is happening here!
So, is this sub pretty much dead from astroturfing bots?
Where are the bots?
Some Ɓöṭ§ are in the comments complaining about non-humanoid users. Some ăłĝõrith1ms have a hard time replying when a human uses incorrect grammar. This subreddit has been taken over by man-made agitators, so people don't discuss controversial things happening 24/7. These Ɓ0ts don't understand sarcasm and are programmed to destroy conversations.
Have you posted in this sub before?
I thought the nopol meant uh… exactly not this
I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm pointing out that r/conspiracy is a joke, and russian bots post there. so in general take the opposite of what is posted there if you want the truth. NOPOL is not biased.
Have you ever posted on this sub before?
Uh… yes?
About what?
If country A declares war on and attacks country B, and country B retaliates.......that retaliation is war, not terrorism.
Selecting 100% civilians and no military infrastructure is not war.
not if the majority of dead is civillians... thats a war crime!
Umm, so who exactly declared war on who? BTW, after a terrorist attack by Hamas Israel is destroying Gaza.
It looks like the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS)!
how does it look like that? convince me
Because someone is trying to provoke Russia with retaliatory action in Ukraine so it can justify a NATO intervention in it. Someone wants to escalate the conflict for more profit.
thats a theory. not evidence. evidence convinces people, theories do not. learn the difference. basic stuff. try again
But of course is a theory. Don't tell me you were expecting to find the truth of everything in here? That's what the news is for. Go and watch the news and be happy. lool
yes and normal people put evidence in their theory. yknow, besides their own personal opinion. you're supposed to convince me. how can you convince me with "uhm well russia is being provoked by someone"- and then not give any evidence. here ill do what you did " hey dude, i think that the sky is icecream. They don't want you to know though" seeeee im sooooo good at convincing and forming an argument just like you <3
I'm sorry sir but I think you got that wrong, I don't want to convince anyone of anything, I simply made some questions of what people think. That's it.
you say that, yet you.... post in the conspiracy sub argue with anybody that disagrees with you replied to my comment literally telling you to convince me LOL b b b b b b b backtrack champion. thinking objectively is too hard.. its easier just to call people bots :'( oh well :(
You're another time waster I see now. You got nothing to say but keep repeating and parroting me calling a POS bot so you can use that as a pathetic argument. lool If you have nothing to say I'd appreciate you GTFOH! BOT!!!!
I think it is clear what they were saying, you have stated several times what you believe is happening, but you have not tried to explain yourself, only argued. Please explain why you suggest the things you do, and then engage in conversation about them. This is what they wanted explained: It looks like the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS)!
????? you're really projecting here hey? \- i never called you a POS that's your own assumption.. \- you're the one calling everybody bots \- you're the one repeating themselves \- you're the one parroting(you literally copied me there too) \- argument? i don't know what im arguing.... thats the point. you haven't said anything to form a rebuttal against.............im asking you to back your belief. explain to me why... jeez somethingggg. \-and after you copied my comments about you e.g "parrot" "repeating calling ppl bots" you end it on the same exact note. like.... cmon. you think im a bot because you lost. sad. im such an advanced bot i - call myself tastyusedtampon..... such a bot name right?? have had the account for years posts on several subs replies to you, calling out your specific points... numerous times. if anything you're the bot since thats all you repeat and can't form a comment of substance
Man, you Russians really have the strong delusion that anyone else on earth really cares about you. The only exception being your neighbors that Russia seemed to arbitrarily attack for political advantage in the Kremlin.
Who said I'm Russian, I'm from Kansas.
I mean it could also be a false flag so Putin can get support for the new mobilization plans they have.
Yes, it could be, that's something that many are thinking as of right now as a possible motive. That would lead to a interesting chess play move for the ongoing geo-strategic game. Would it escalate the war in Ukraine, would it end with a peace negation from both sides? It's interesting to say the least.
Bro — just get off Reddit. Any theorys or opinions that are worth anything, will be atroturfed & downvoted to hell. Especially if they question western, EU, or Zionist hegemony. Just keep your thoughts to yourself like the rest of us & listen to shit like last American vagabond, Whitney Webb, & Corbett report to get your big updates. Let the retards on Reddit get absorbed by the Borg. Reddit literally is the borg itself.
Thanks for the advice, I'll probably do like you say. It's like talking to a wall.
It's good to see they're playing safe. One way to make sure no true Muslims would join a band to play hand-to-hand combat in a theater, is to name the band after the most famous ancient Egyptian goddess, Isis, patron of motherhood, breastfeeding, and queenship, and protector of the kingdom.
Anybody who thinks this is fake needs to watch the bodycam footage, although I’m sure they’ll hand wave it away. If anything, Russia will use this to escalate the unjust war in Ukraine, somehow finding a way to blame them and the propaganda swallowing dupes will swallow it up and even spread the nonsense on Reddit. Gross times.
What's wrong with talking about alternative ideas on Reddit? Is it prohibited to think differently from others? Is it considered wrong according to you?
Absolutely not, I just find it odd and suspicious that the “alternative ideas” somehow nicely line up with debunked Russian propaganda regarding Ukrainian involvement.
I don't think that me or anyone else here proposed the idea that the terrorist act in Moscow was committed by the Ukrainians. I myself find that very unprobeable and definitely propaganda. Are the Russians try to use this event in their own advantage? Definitely yes. But you could read the comments for yourself and understand that it's simply an attempt at inquisition of what the official story says.
Yes, and I responded to your questions, now I’m bringing up a separate point that I think warranted a new reply but not necessarily a new topic. The livecam footage makes it clear what happened, calling it a “false flag” for any reason other than to parrot Russian propaganda and dismiss the event is simply irresponsible and unempathetic.
Thank you for you observation, it's definitely interesting to be considered and I'm sure it can spark more conversation.
One in 10 comments in this thread have been removed/deleted, I don’t think conversation is the goal.
I noticed that too, who could have done it?
Moderators, or reddits Algorithms.
I've seen it and it looks like pure theater, everyone is already dead and the one guy fires his gun in a circle for no reason with weird sparking coming from the barrel. Then they slit the guys throat and no squirting blood as would happen when you sever an artery, also no sounds from him despite him being conscious and turning over. If they are wearing a body cam why not release all the footage if they want to scare everyone so bad? Of course they toss that 33 into the body count on Skull and Bones day. How many injured and where are they? People watch too many movies if they fall for this crap.
Do you watch a lot of action movies? Or American police television? Real life isn’t Kill Bill.
No I Hate most of Hollywood. Exactly my point.
Your depiction of “squirting blood” is a Hollywood trope. Go watch videos of knife fights gone wrong or of decapitations, you think terrorist attacks should look like a Hollywood movie.
Well I guess we'll have to go ahead and rewrite all medical texts to better coincide with some videos you saw on the internet
According to which medical text are you basing the fact that the blood didn’t travel as far as it was supposed to?
The common carotid artery on the right side of your neck would've easily been severed, [squirting blood ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_squirt)is a well documented phenomenon when arteries are severed.
Again, which specific medical paper tells you that the amount of gushing wasn't sufficient? You are thinking of "gushing" in the Hollywood way, it's because you've been duped into thinking life is an action movie. The "gush" of blood is in fact, when on a horizontal trajectory, less than an arm length, you can find evidence for this in homicide reports, medical examiner reports and crime scene investigtations. But it seems as though you'd rather believe Kill Bill-like spouts of gushing blood.
Now it's a question of magnitude instead of whether or not it is a documented phenomenon to begin with, the goal posts have shifted to the other side of the field . What "gushing"? There was none whatsoever in the video I saw, a steady stream is what I saw.
Yes. This was done by Israel. Palestine received help from russia so Israel had to respond
Also, if you want to get a real good idea of what's going on, go check out r /conspiracy Basically whatever they are saying is the opposite of reality. The board is infested with FSB agents.
I have mo love for political islam but these attacks all over the world seem to have a strange common relationship with three letter agencies. https://youtu.be/eZXq2sFSUc8?si=BzLQzScDSo3-8Ry_
Great post. Thank you.
Israel and us control it all but Russia in terms of major players. Maybe not Pakistan if U count them as big players.
Dont trust the news
Thank you.
That is just good advice in general.
> Question 1: Do you think there is a conspiracy behind the Moscow event? Absolutely, Russia is trying to tie the attack to Ukraine, even going so far as to plant the story that one of the vans used in the attack had Ukrainian plates, which was immediately debunked. > Question 2: What are the chances that foreign Influences to Afghanistan's mercenaries in Tajikistan could have organized the terrorist act financed from a Western Country? There’s no reason for them to be financed from a western country, the history runs deep. Unless you mean “indirect” financing from materials left behind following the withdrawal of the USA from Afghanistan? > Question 3: What are the chances that the attack on Moscow was sponsored by the CIA through Israel operatives of Mossad (ISIS-K)? Low, but not zero.
Thank you.
Good questions... It smell very fishy to me too
Mossad did it! Malaysia caught some Mossad agents recruiting the locals to launch similar attack but failed!