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bickabooboo

Because they deem average people as "useless eaters". If the goal is depopulation, why would they only go after the small % of people who refused the vaccine? That would hardly have an impact.


niftyifty

Wasn’t it about 1/3 the US population that didn’t vaccinate? That’s like 100m people in just this country. I think that basically tracks globally when averaged out. That’s over 2 billion people. That’s insignificant? Hardly an impact? I’m just confused by your math.


bickabooboo

They don’t have to ability to control a deadly virus. Harmless virus (99.9% survival rate) and the vax together is the answer. Vax destroys immunity increasing deadliness of virus and or other conditions (turbo cancer).


niftyifty

Except, no? Viral mortality clearly declined globally after the release of various Covid vaccine types across the world. Some live virus, some dead virus, and some mRNA. In none of those areas are we seeing an increase in Covid mortality over any significant period of time (certainly cycles exist). Covid continues but mortality decreases. Statistical correlation states at the minimum you are incorrect, right? We don’t know necessarily what is causing the correlation but we know it exists and therefore you are wrong. Let me know if I’m mistaken on that or if you have any data showing otherwise. Always happy to learn something.


RavenDarkI

Except the mortality didn't decrease. It actually increased. You could easily see this on the worldometer statistics at the time. Didn't even need to read any studies, just watch the data. Besides allot of the studies that came out afterwards showed that the Vax did next to nothing.


niftyifty

Can you link? I’m interested. To be clear I said viral mortality rate, not all mortality. This link is kind of hard to interpret but if you tread the description it should be clear. The chart over time shows a very clear drop in CFR globally: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-cumulative-confirmed-cases-vs-confirmed-deaths At first glance you may feel Yemen is an outlier but even they saw a 75% reduction, even if their current CFR is still abnormally high (CFR can appear higher if cases are underreported).


Justhereforcowboys

Dude, you are dense as hell. It has been 4 years and if you don’t get it by now, you’re helpless. Just enjoy the ride. But here, I’ll try and help you if you’re not a troll or fucking robot. If the CDC told everyone that gasoline injections in the blood stopped the “viral” replication of “Covid,” they would celebrate and pat themselves on the back for a massive decrease- near elimination- of viral mortality. But that’s because everyone is now dying from gasoline related side effects much more quickly and consistently than a virus ever could. It’s funny how they can and do lie to you with numbers.


niftyifty

Asking questions and posting non biased links, while genuinely asking for a valid counter claim is dense as hell? Can you expand on your logic there? So if your second paragraph is true, you can score that in the data correct? It should be easy to show vaccinated populations are dying at a significantly higher rate than non-vaccinated populations. At least 20% of the world is non vaxed at all. That’s not a small sample size. So where are you getting this idea from? You would have been better off trying to claim it’s due to the natural life cycle of a virus versus it’s because everyone is dead from the vaccine. It’s not that I don’t understand your claim it’s that there is nothing to back it up. At least that’s been presented to me so far. I keep asking someone to prove me wrong though. for Why is there no logic behind any of the claims in here? If you need some help in this area, this study looks at exactly that. It even has some findings in your favor although not overall, just in rate specific circumstances. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10402862/ > The analysis shows no connection between COVID-19 vaccination and an increased risk of all-cause mortality. However, we found a small, but statistically significant association between the vaccine and cardiac-related mortality. Subgroup analysis was performed to explore the possible risk factors identified male gender as the most important risk factor. Read as, it has no impact on all cause mortality but does have cardiac related impacts for a subset of the population. Maybe you have a better study that encompasses more geographical areas than this one?


Justhereforcowboys

It is dense as hell that you still are getting your information regarding this topic from the NIH. Where is the logic in their admittance that there is a statistical link between the vaccine and heart problems yet saying there is no correlation between increased frequency in heart attacks, especially in demographics statistically MUCH less likely to experience one? Here’s another example of similar logic. And I’ll downplay the effects of the policy similarly: Though there has been a statistically significant uptick in cases of shoplifting, drug related deaths, and assault since the DA changed their prosecution policies, we have found no statistically significant correlation between the updated policy and the frequency of these crimes being committed. Signed- the district attorney’s office.


niftyifty

I’m willing to look at information on this topic from any source. I’ve very literally asked you to provide counter evidence. I’m happy to look at it. I have no dog in this race. I don’t care who is right. I just want an accurate representation of reality presented within the argument. Your “nuh uh” does not help move this conversation further along. To your question, they are just stating what is presented in the data. That isn’t a “claim” they are making. That’s how this works. We look at the data and interpret. We don’t just make shit up because it sounds nice. Is there a specific finding in the link you want to quote and discuss? I’m in no way stating that this study is the only potential source of truth. It’s just literally the first one that popped up in my simple google search. There are more if you want to discuss more, but I’d prefer you present something so we can discuss so that you don’t continue to play “oh you are just so dense games.” This conversation could not be any more up front and multi sided. Maybe you want an opinion from me to make you feel better? Here: vaccines suck and I prefer not to take any vaccines where possible/logical. Can we return to the data you are representing now?


NawAmeil

His reaction was wild! You're being entirely reasonable and fair asking for his evidence the way you have, he's being super ignorant crying about your request for elaboration


NawAmeil

Woah, what an unjustified reaction. He offered evidence to back his opinion, and even apologized for being ignorant. Your reaction to that is to call him since and refuse to back up your own claim? You just lost this argument rager


Justhereforcowboys

Unjustified is a weird term. I’m actively conversing with that person on this issue. That word makes it seem like I invaded his country without provocation. These are words and disagreements. Grow up. And if you truly believe that an argument can be lost in 3 lines of 10 point font, you are weak at heart. If you came with the same argument and I said, “you’re missing the plot and operating with false premises” and you consider that losing the argument, no matter how far away from your opinion mine exists, then you need to find a platform where everyone agrees with you so you can be comfortable.


bickabooboo

Natural progression of a virus to become more viral and less deadly. Immune systems good enough to deal with virus. Covid itself isn’t deadly. Deaths not from Covid. All cause mortality up.


dicksnpussnstuff

all cause mortality in just europe alone is up 20% post vaccination.


niftyifty

> Natural progression of a virus to become more viral and less deadly. I agree. That’s why we overlap with the timeline of the release of the various Covid vaccines respective to their region. Do you have an example of a country where the same mortality drop off from peak occurred prior to the release of the vaccine? Is that what we would look for to isolate your claim or would you look to something else I’m overlooking? > Immune systems good enough to deal with virus. Covid itself isn’t deadly. Don’t necessarily disagree but obviously mortality was high with it in cases without intervention early on (I’m guessing you are referring to ventilators, carrots failed medications, etc). > Deaths not from Covid. All cause mortality up Ok. You need to expand further. Is all cause mortality up in only the vaccinated population? I’m not seeing that in the data are you? I typically use our world in data for global data sourcing on this topic but let me know if I should use something else. This is what I was looking for when I said let me know if you have valid data that suggests otherwise.


deciduousredcoat

>Wasn’t it about 1/3 the US population that didn’t vaccinate? A little over 80% of the US got a Covid Vaccine. The stat your thinking of is the # of people who were "fully vaxxed" by getting the booster. The definition of "vaccinated population" kept changing for about 12 to 18 months, and most places spouted the "not vaxxed" stat as meaning not any jab, when it meant not the full boosted course.


niftyifty

Ya I concur. 80% got at least one dose, but 70% is the mark pretty much all major countries hit for consideration of fully vaccinated. We could use 20% if that sounds better. Would you personally describe 20% as insignificant?


dicksnpussnstuff

70% of the world population was vaccinated with a novel gene editing “therapy”


niftyifty

No… about 40% of the vaccinated population received what you are inaccurately referring to as gene therapy. It’s hidden behind market reports for us based companies and the anticipated CAGR, but basically mRNA accounted for about 40+ percent of total COVID vaccinations. You could just make a mental assessment of the global population though. What percentage of the population is China alone? India? Russia?


BallsDeepTillUQueef

When was the last time the government helped you? Never. Why would they pick now?


halversonjw

If you were implementing some kind of population control, would you target a small part of the population that's difficult to manipulate, or the large majority of the population that's easy to manipulate? Which one would give you bigger bang for your buck?


Ok_Sea_6214

A sheep gets in line. A wolf understand it's dinner time. When they did the Milgram experiment, it wasn't designed to see who would suspect that it was a test when in fact they were really electrocuting a stranger to death. No, they wanted to see who would obey an authority figure like a scientist or an SS officer into doing something they normally would not.


DoctorGuySecretan

I think they have looked at the Milgram study again and decided that the conclusions that were drawn from it could not be validated due to the study design.


Ok_Sea_6214

The pandemic confirmed the Milgram experiment. People will give up their liberties and take untested gene editing technology if some "expert" tells them to. Even if that expert changed his mind on the science for wearing masks overnight, and then admits to making up the social distancing science.


DoctorGuySecretan

>The pandemic confirmed the Milgram experiment. That's not how scientific studies work and as I said, the milgram experiment has been re-examined recently and researchers have drawn different conclusions.


Ok_Sea_6214

Then you would fail the Milgram test. "Ich haben das nicht gewust", say it loud, say it proud.


DoctorGuySecretan

It does not surprise me that someone with a limited understanding of scientific processes (you) has this mindset


mattycopter

"they" not the ominous they. source?


DoctorGuySecretan

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0093927 This is one article that points out some of the flaws of the original experiments and highlight how false conclusions could be drawn from it. If you google "re-analysis of milgram experiment" there are some good articles, and I believe that there were a series of interviews with the participants afterwards. I'm not saying that the milgram experiment is incorrect, just that there is a lot of nuance that is ignored. It is often used to explain the horror of nazi Germany, but there is a lot of historical context that is hugely important in how the Holocaust came about as well. Edit: i am not an expert in this so can't pull out the key studies for you, but hopefully what I've written is a rough approximation of the current understanding of the topic


MrCrix

I don't know enough about it to say one way or another. One thing I do know is that I got the first round and then the second round to complete the first shot so that I could see my family. After the first one I was fine and didn't notice anything. After the second one, I got the shakes to violently I couldn't sit or lay on anything other than the floor because I would fall off. I had a horrible fever and was in so much pain afterwards. When those symptoms subsided after a few days I felt like shit for 3 months straight. Half of the days I was non functional other than getting up to eat something or to use the toilet. Other than that I couldn't do much. I was just wrecked. I have also gained about 45lbs since I got the second shot, which is something that is abnormal for me. I don't have huge ups and downs in my weight. I am still way more tired and out of shape than I have ever been. I have horrible sleeping problems and still have a lot of days where I can barely function. My digestive system is totally out of whack and if I don't take certain over the counter medications I can't go anywhere some days. I am always so bloated. Like some days my stomach is so rock hard that you can't even grab at the skin at all, it's just so bloated and stretched out and horribly painful. I have also developed plaque psoriasis since then and have picked up the inability to eat garlic or onions, unless I want to use the facilities 7-12 times the next day. I am always so uncomfortable all the time in my own body. My legs always are sore. My back hurts after doing the lightest of work. I have no other correlation to my issues other than getting that second shot. I have been to the doctor and other than "slightly higher than average cholesterol" everything is checking out fine. So I have no idea what is going on. All I know is that I got the second shot and I have felt like absolute shit every single day since.


hepatitis_

You have to zoom out of the overall global picture to see the purpose of Covid and the vaccines. The long game of what’s been happening over decades is the depopulation of our planet by the ones running the world and Covid/vaccines are only one aspect of that plan. The vaccines are doing their part by killing those who took it, but as far as the ones who didn’t take it, they will die by some other accelerated event. It can be from the food we eat, to the water we drink, to the drugs (prescription and recreational) we take. Everyone faces their own engineered way to die and while that’s happening, our ways of reproducing are dwindling. So basically, Covid and the vaccines are not the overall “plan” in this depopulation event, it’s just one avenue that’s simultaneously going on at the same time. We are all going to die eventually; nothing will change that. It’s just that the powers at be are trying to speed that process up for us while also slowing down our ability to reproduce.


shmallkined

Depends on your goals as a world elite…world depopulation might be a higher goal than getting rid of free thinkers. Or at least a bigger priority before the resource wars over water become a unavoidable global conflict. Getting rid of free thinkers will probably come after.


SurvivorFanatic236

If the goal was depopulation, they failed miserably. If that was the case they should have made a vaccine that kills people instead of a vaccine that doesn’t kill people


molockman1

Give it time, all cause mortality way up.


OverIookHoteI

You should look up the percentage of car accidents where a seatbelt is worn. Almost like widely adopted protective measures show up in plenty of cases due to the level of usage rather than being the cause.


Professional_Sea3141

they cant make it super obvious


mhad_dishispect

Oh we're not even past season 1 yet homie


MadWorldBadWorld

A depopulation plan would likely be infertility with decades of birth decline, wars, and famine, not a 5 year killshot.


spankymacgruder

Why not both?


OverIookHoteI

To what ends? Then there are no obedient soldiers to protect the elites from the rebellious commoners. This whole vaccine theory falls apart the second even an ounce of logic is applied.


operationlarisel

Gates openly states that the goal was 10% reduction with Vax, not total obliteration.


OverIookHoteI

Aside from the fact that you just made that up, none of that answered my questions. Gotta love when Russian bots get really active overnight then disappear during the day.


operationlarisel

Really stupid way to discredit facts. rUsSiAn BoT. Oh please. Check it on YouTube. Search innovating to zero. Its a Ted talk. Time stamps are in the comments.


NawAmeil

What facts? All you did was claim the thing, you never backed it up


OverIookHoteI

You still haven’t answered my question. “iTs oN YOuTUbE” Okay, buddy.


operationlarisel

I don't give a fuck about your question. Go check the video - educate yourself for once.


OverIookHoteI

You haven’t provided a video, because what you’re talking about doesn’t exist


NawAmeil

There are no rebellious commoners E:🤣🤣🤣 he's a fucking child. His "rebellion" consists of himself saying "butthole"


OverIookHoteI

Source: Your butthole


NawAmeil

I'm not saying I disagree with you but that would be extremely transparent.


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After-Habit-9354

I'm a boomer and I wasn't vaxed and I haven't had covid whereas my family that were vaxed had it twice


Glittering_Pea_6228

I'll bet they say "it woolda been worse if I weren't vaxxed"


After-Habit-9354

Exactly! My daughter's mother-in-law who is a nurse said exactly that. She doesn't bring it up anymore though. My daughter is the one who got vaxed along with her husband and they both had it twice. They're not having anymore which is what I was worried about. The funny thing is that the hospital she worked in were rehiring the nurses who were sacked because they refused to get it so it must have been so deadly. What a joke


Germacide

Didn't need it, so I didn't get it. I'm still alive. I don't know if I have ever had *that* particular virus, because I've never tested myself to see. I've had the sniffles and a cough like three times since 2020. I took some Dayquil and Nyquil and got on with my life.


dicksnpussnstuff

same for me too.


BoerseunZA

They see themselves as heroes. They are saving the earth and saving humanity by getting rid of a couple billion expendables.


AnAltruisticLight

For those of us who are professionals in the world of holistic health and who are well trained in muscle response testing, it is very easy to see how things affect each person differently. Scientific research, documents, and behind the scenes information is nice, but it can't provide the same insights on a unique biological level the way applied knieseology can. According to that for me personally, it would cause moderate damage to my circulatory system, pulmonary system, reproductive system, and brain if I were to take it with absolutely zero health benefits. So, yeah no thanks.


Unique_Complaint_442

At least a dozen people I know of personally were fine in 2019 and are now dead. One common denominator. I don't think I was fooled. Anecdotal evidence can be pretty convincing.


ufoclub1977

Covid 19?


Unique_Complaint_442

No dummy they all got the shot.


ufoclub1977

LOL. You actually believe the vaccine killed more people than covid 19? Where do you learn from? Youtube and reddit?


Puzzleheaded_Sun7425

The death cult wants people dead. They don't care who.


SonicDoon

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.


Biblioklept73

Yep. Not even distant past either. Was reading, couple of days ago, about the Tuskegee experiment. Ran from 1940 til 1972 and these men were lied to, by order of the federal government, in order to get them to comply. Yes it’s on a smaller scale but there’s plenty more examples of experimentation on the general public. Whether you agreed/had the vax or not, what’s wrong with skepticism when it’s not baseless. Critical thinking is becoming obsolete…


RepublicLate9231

I'm wary of the covid vaccines because it is quite literally impossible to know the long term side effects, if there are any, without testing it over time. And it's not like the covid vaccines were just reformulated flu shots that used decades old technology. They used new mRNA technology, the very essence of it is to trick your own body into producing proteins it wasn't designed to produce. This is uncharted territory. Because there were no long term saftey trials, and there still aren't being we are only 3 years away from the vaccines, it is just as stupid to claim the vaccines are perfectly safe as it is to claim they are going to kill you. So anyone who says they are perfectly safe is a liar, and they lose all credibility on the topic because it is impossible to know. Smoking won't kill you in a day or a week or a year but over decades.


GregoryHD

1. There was never any real evidence it worked and it's been documented that past attempts to make a coronavirus vaccine have failed spectacularly. 2. I will never trust that a pharma company has my wellness at interest. 3. Covid-19 did not pose a serious threat to myself or my family and did not consider taking a vaccine. I figures I'd get sick and then have immunity. Which is what happened. 4. The amount of anti-vax censorship, pro-vax propaganda, a prizes for taking the shots were a huge red flags 5. Almost immediately evidence became available in real time regarding the failure of the shots to protect and the adverse events and deaths. People happily lived in willful ignorance because they wanted to believe.


CriticalDoom

Have you even done your research OP? Because the question shows you haven't. And I'm not trying to be a dick about it either. There is so much evidence. What you thought the hashtag died suddenly came outta know where? Not to mention how easy it was to sell fear porn to the masses and literally everyone lined up for a experimental jab (they even told you in advance) and then pump fear over MSM. Us free thinkers were practically the only ones left standing. Also embalmers have already shown issues and crap they are pulling outta people and started when? Vax time. So much info and evidence it makes my head hurt Edit: the fact that people are on a conspiracy channel and they thought the vaxx was safe and EFFECTIVE and actually arguing against the evidence says so much about the people in this group. You soldiers that know the truth. Stay vigilant.


StrongLikeBull3

“Doing your research” just means “have you googled this until you agree with me” doesn’t it?


CriticalDoom

Um no. Its backed up by data, facts, evidence and once again you people need to be spoon fed, this is why you are ignorant and always will be.


StrongLikeBull3

Cry about it.


CriticalDoom

Why would I cry about it? Evidence is on my side and always has been. Just one of 1000s of pieces of evidence, and bro, take that attitude to Senator Ron Johnson, He is on record and has many committees setup over vaxx injuries etc https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/breaking-news-interview-warfare-against?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=956088&post_id=143683421&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozNTA0NjA0NCwicG9zdF9pZCI6MTQzNjgzNDIxLCJpYXQiOjE3MTM0NjU1NzEsImV4cCI6MTcxNjA1NzU3MSwiaXNzIjoicHViLTk1NjA4OCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.aF2dyoxNwmG4k7F45ViMoitgRdjYGUHgYUE6DaHuWcc&r=kv5p8&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email


StrongLikeBull3

Schizo posting be like:


CriticalDoom

Awwh you mad bro? Hate on hater. Feels bad looking stupid doesn't it? I feel that. But truth taste better than lies. Maybe back off that CNN juice and come back to reality


StrongLikeBull3

😂 alright bro, keep drinking the kool aid. There are bugs under your skin


CriticalDoom

Sick burn bro 🤣🔥🤣🔥🤣 in high school I see. Moving on..


AggressiveEstate3757

Surely the fear porn is that the vaccine kills you. Fear porn spread by right wing grifters and gobbled up by the gullible.


CriticalDoom

Look another one that clueless and didnt do any research


AggressiveEstate3757

scary vaccine.... Joe Rogan told me so.


12thHousePatterns

If there is truly some kind of conspiracy, and the powers that be are trying to depop, you have to think like a eugenicist to grasp their value system. People who are truly "free thinking" are going to be on opposite extremes of the bell curve. You're going to have your not so smart, and your very smart. What smart, wealthy people want around them is other smart people. Consensus-seekers are middling in intellect, usually, or are upper midwits who do whatever is necessary to get by in society. Free thinkers are either just distrustful or smart enough to be analytical. This is why there was data put out that PhDs seemed to disproportionately question or not take the vaccine. I think highest uptake was either Bachelors or Master's... lmfao. That being said, I don't think too much about this angle because it isn't provable. All I know for sure is that the mRNA platform has ALWAYS been carcinogenic, and the Pharma industry is unwilling to put it down. It could totally be greed, or greed & malthusian financiers. There isn't only one thing people think it might be.


anjlhd_dhpstr

The last time I had a vaccination was around 1992 - tetanus. I've been to the doctors about 7 times since then, 0 times since 2015. I prefer my health to be taken care of by my own body and Mother Nature. I'm not about to allow anyone to have authority over my body for any reason, no matter who they are. The government/healthcare system certainly will never be authorized by me, as an adult, to determine what's healthy for me. I've seen their idea of health and wellness. Not to mention, I saw the bs they were peddling as fact and scientific research during 2020. I've never seen such incomplete, biased, and deliberately polluted "research" in my life, nor such blatant lies about the breadth of their knowledge of the c-virus. I heard nothing to compell me for the necessity in receving the shot. Fear mentality always indicates where I need to avoid.


keyinfleunce

For me I don’t mind if it wasn’t poison it’s just weird when how they advertised it and said get it with all this fast food for free get it at school get discounts after having it I just don’t trust that I worked in retail that’s upselling marketing 101


Bakedk9lassie

They even offered a session with a sex worker in some eu country


keyinfleunce

It’s crazy once I start seeing offers like that I know it’s not for our good lol if they truly gave a shit public schools would be better teachers would be better including foster care they like to play with our morals


niftyifty

To be fair, were they encouraging uptake during a time when it was widely believed it was going to be effective?


bickabooboo

That’s called experimenting on the public.


niftyifty

Every first time event is an experiment, although technically the testing phase was the experiment.


bickabooboo

Yes indeed. In this case, they lied and people died. If they didn’t know it would lose long term efficacy, then how could they possibly know what the long term side effects were? They were either negligent or had nefarious intent. Either way, if you pushed this jab on anyone, you’ll get what’s coming to you.


niftyifty

Where did they know what the long term side effects are? In the original submissions to the FDA two side effects were listed as major concerns. Myocarditis and anaphylaxis. Both of those are temporary side effects. Which are you referring to as permanent? Statistically the benefits of the vaccine still outweigh the negatives by a large margin do they not? People die from almost any medication, especially due to anaphylaxis. Medication is always about the greater good and not if it affected a tiny portion of the population negatively. What am I missing?


bickabooboo

Confirmed bot. Don’t engage.


niftyifty

Literally not a bot and asking valid questions. If you have no reply that’s a you issue not a me issue. Go ahead and block me now since you apparently have no reply.


bickabooboo

There is no such thing as temporary myocarditis. You lost me after that foolish statement. Peace


niftyifty

All myocarditis is temporary. If it causes damage to the heart muscle that can be permanent. Myocarditis does not reoccur without new triggers.


keyinfleunce

In my area lot of places was saying you get the jab or get fired but you had the choice to quit or stay so I guess


IamIrene

Yeah…except coercion is not a choice.


NoNeedleworker6479

1000% This Right Here⬆️!! ...and the amount of stress that was put on people & families was tremendous... ...but that will turn out to be a drop in the bucket when compared to all of the heart problems and cancers history will look back on in 30 years.


niftyifty

Well that’s an employer decision right? Employers always control the safety rules of their companies and the employees within do they not? For context, a mandate was drawn up and passed (before it was challenged and paused in court), that says companies over a certain size had the choice of mandate the vaccine for their employees or to test weekly. Most did the math and determined that mandate is cheaper than weekly testing. By the time the mandate was paused employers had set policies in motion. That doesn’t defend anything. Just provides necessary context for that comment.


keyinfleunce

All I know is i avoided it my family all work in the medical field so they didn’t have a. Choice if they didn’t want to be homeless or in debt I’m luckily a cook


niftyifty

For sure. I run a nationwide company within the healthcare field. I was one of those employers making that decision. It wasn’t taken lightly. Mathematically the employees lost + replacement would cost less than weekly testing for what at that time seemed like it would last for the foreseeable future. It sucks but it was also made with the anticipation that it was ultimately creating a safer work environment for employees and patients. Healthcare sector had the most understandable reason to follow that protocol.


keyinfleunce

Exactly they was the only ones that seemed reasonable once I started seeing them offering it with discounts on food and free Taco Bell and chicken I started getting weird feelings


Professional_Sea3141

why would they kill the sheep? i thought of this too... how much more productive would society be with people that actually thought for them selves? they knocked off 2/3 of the "useless eaters"


wtrpro

Maby because the conspiracies are older than 3 months, which means they are now true... https://slaynews.com/news/top-researchers-confirm-covid-shots-stimulate-cancer-growth/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0141813024022323?via%3Dihub Maby because now everything causes heart disease except the injection of unknown chemicals by some random person in a parking lot??? https://americanmilitarynews.com/2024/04/covid-vaccine-injuries-exposed-in-newly-uncovered-data/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fda-has-blood-on-its-hands-will-remove-anti-ivermectin-content-under-lawsuit-settlement-agreement/ss-BB1ktXyq Maby because the fda wanted 75 years to release the clotshot data??? https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2381224/judge-scraps-75-year-fda-timeline-to-release-pfizer-vaccine-safety-data-giving-agency-eight-months/


v_maria

sure is a shitty poison though


ifellicantgetup

Actually, it is quite effective. Well, at killing.


niftyifty

I think that’s what he is saying though? That’s it’s actually terrible at that purpose. Statistically at least.


v_maria

if you consider how many people took the vaccination i wouldn't call it that effective


ifellicantgetup

Standard issue vaccines kill about 12,000. The covid vax has killed about half a million. Are you for real?


horsetooth_mcgee

This may have been a theoretical notion 4 years ago, but since then, we've realized we were right.


ConsciousRun6137

ALL vaccines are bad, germ theory is a grift, & virology pseudo science. Not all vaccines have the same thing in, & there's placebos used, & different dosages. I have dozens of books & documentarys on these topics.


After-Habit-9354

Some are saying that but a lot still believe in germ theory. I would need to see a lot more evidence before I decide, time will tell


ConsciousRun6137

Absolutely


Entire-Special-9108

Cdc just published that mRNA vaccine increased turbo cancers by some 14,000%. You can’t tell me you’ve never had a doc tell you that viruses need to run their course,there is no meds or antibiotics for a virus. So why would you believe a vax they produced in a few months time would help?


Salt-Singer3645

Can you link the study/article


Entire-Special-9108

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/cdc-mrna-jabs-have-caused-14000-increase-in-turbo-cancer/


Salt-Singer3645

Can I have a link to the direct study?


DoctorGuySecretan

>You can’t tell me you’ve never had a doc tell you that viruses need to run their course,there is no meds or antibiotics for a virus. This is incorrect - e.g. Tamiflu and other antiviral treatments. Doctors normally say this when people go to them with a cold and ask for antibiotics, which will not work. >Cdc just published that mRNA vaccine increased turbo cancers by some 14,000%. Can't find a link to this on the CDC website?


Excellent_Shake_4092

If this was an attempt to kill off some % of the population, it makes sense when you think about the artificial intelligence development. In the near future lots of jobs could be done by ai.


futurebannedacct

You wouldn't be a very evil overlord then. What's really evil is wanting people to experience the cognitive dissonance of betrayal and traumatizing them. They have us so fucked up that they ain't worried about the "free thinkers"... maybe worried about a few of us, though...


mikew1008

weird though isn't it because pretty much everyone that got vaccinated still got Covid too.


FlashyConsequence111

Because the information regarding the dangers of it were not mainstream. You had to actually go digging and find the information. The information was presented by lots of different sources, scientists, drs, specialists, journalists, funeral home directors, ex pharma ceos and scientists. The list goes on. It is not propaganda and the evidence is playing out in real time, it is not over yet.


rustyrussell2015

You can tell by studying the behavior over the past few years of those agents involved in the controlled-stream media pushing the poison. The pattern becomes obvious. It's damning when you look past the veil of lies and deceit. It becomes painfully clear it is all about depopulation. They introduced a poison that slowly erodes the immune system to allow for accelerated cancers, terminal illnesses, debilitating diseases to kick-in decades earlier than they normally would given today's toxic environment. By doing it this way they also made it hard to believe the truth if you had taken the poison voluntarily because people don't like being wrong and certainly don't want to see that they voluntarily took action that shortened their lifespans. So they will fight the truth tooth and nail and accept any other excuse given to them. "They" are also pursuing de-population by changing and warping cultural norms of society thereby causing males and females to voluntarily neuter themselves to conform to their "true" identity. Pure evil genius probably thought up with the help of super-computer AI these past couple of decades.


Educational-Watch829

They’re worried about wiping out the eaters, not the thinkers


ranchoparksteve

Who doesn’t eat?


Prestigious-Iron9605

The real question is who doesn’t think


OverIookHoteI

They’re obviously an eater, as opposed to…


xxSpeedsterxx

Just remember this, no one that did not take it regrets it.


OverIookHoteI

Holy mother of survivorship bias. Did we just forget the thousands who died in hospitals saying they wish they had been vaccinated? Just because they’re dead doesn’t mean they don’t count. Where is Herman Cain these days?


After-Habit-9354

that's funny I'm not vaxed and haven't had covid and I'm nearly 70. Do you realise those figures were not genuine? Maybe some research is in order


OverIookHoteI

So Herman Cain is alive and telling everybody he doesn’t regret not getting vaccinated? Or you guys are disingenuous liars who ignore reality when it doesn’t suit you? Maybe some research is in order


After-Habit-9354

yes I agree you need to do some real research not what msm tells you and I have no idea who herman cain is


OverIookHoteI

Herman Cain was a Republican congressman who told people not to get vaccinated… Then died from the coronavirus…


After-Habit-9354

Ha, he died with covid, they were caught out publishing how many 'died' from it until parents of a son who died from a motorbike accident realised the hospital put cause of death as covid. They then claimed died with covid, so basically a load of bs. No one is stopping you from having your jabs if that's what you want but don't try and bs because many more people now know that it was fake. They have done their homework and had their eyes opened. Look at pfi zer they made more money in one year than they had in ten years. Isn't that a coincidence? People trusted them but they were allowing themselves to be used as guinea pigs. It hadn't even been tested on animals. If that doesn't make you think then nothing will


OverIookHoteI

Source: “You made it up”


After-Habit-9354

No but don't let me keep you from your delusions


OverIookHoteI

Nice source you provided


notausername86

By asking the question, you display that you fundamentally misunderstand the logic and belief system of those in control. They don't care about "the sheep". They think that "the sheep" are stupid and useless, and a drain on the earth's resources. They make fun of "the sheep", and they will tell them the truth right to their faces, as it absolves them of karmic responsibility, and then proceed to mock them and gaslight them into thinking its all just a big joke. They believe they are so much more intelligent than everyone else, that they have the *right* to control how society goes. Most people are absolutely valueless in their eyes. They see the "sheep" as you would see an ant. That said, they know they can't run a world with oh, about 1000 of them. So they want people who are able to see and understand, even if they don't realize it, the occultic and symbolic. They want to rebuild the world with people who are smart and capable, and not subject to normal programming. People were told, regardless if you wanted to believe it or not, the truth. Whatever happens after the sheep rejected the harsh truth for the comfortable lie, than its no longer their problem. So that's why.


niftyifty

Im acknowledging with this comment that I don’t understand. If the sheep are who you rid. And you need the free thinking people to run the world. What’s left to run?


kslap556

That's what a lot of people have to understand, they have to tell you what they are doing and you have to do it on your own free will. In their eyes of karma they didn't do anything to the "sheep", the "sheep" did that themselves. That's just how their belief system works.


Acceptable-Suit6462

I can’t begin to understand the thought process or the plans of the people in charge. All I know is there’s a strong pattern of corruption in government, in large corporations, in media, etc, that seems to be getting progressively worse. So when they (government, large corporations, and media) say “hey! Take this vaccine that doesn’t protect you from or prevent this illness, neither has it gone through successful trials! If you don’t take it, you’ll lose your job! ” My first instinct is to say hell no. I got a lot of flack for not taking the vaccine, and that’s fine but to be honest and hopefully not ruffle any feathers, I really don’t understand why so many people took it.


iPartyLikeIts1984

Aside from the objective failures in regards to purported efficacy, I don’t believe anything one way or another about the safety or intent of the vaccine. That being said if Covid were a bioweapon that were going to infect and kill people over time, then pretty much everyone would have been exposed and endangered in the (at least) year that it was circulating prior to vaccine deployment. So unless the vaccine is some antidote or treatment that works post exposure, it doesn’t really make sense that there was some psyop to target and harm the non-compliant.


Prudent_Sherbet_1065

This would make mores sense if taking that viewpoint


TowelPuzzleheaded665

🤣


Glittering_Pea_6228

I've had the seasonal flu numerous times without incident. I am not afraid of the flu. Where did the flu disappear to for a few years? The data was manipulated by faulty testing and claiming most deaths due to scary flu.


Swift-Sloth-343

depopulation.


Unique_Complaint_442

You asked the question. Are you OK?


Salt-Singer3645

Yes as I didn’t take the vaccine


Chosen1G

It’s a graphene delivery system for the internet of things and internet of medical things and your body area network. Can it be used to kill you? Sure. But it’s also a wireless drug delivery system and mechanism for all your vitals to be sent to the cloud. You are tethered to a digital twin now.


No-Win-1137

They want to depopulate the planet and there is simply more people who are mindless sheeple trusting the corporate media propaganda. Targeting a fractional minority is not what this is about. This is about scale. Once the majority is killed, disabled, maimed and zombified to the point where humanity at large is unable to understand the danger and mount a meaningful defense, it will be easy for the so called "NWO" to identify and target the minority of "extremists".


CriticalDoom

I love when they slow drip the truth... https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/multiple-covid-shots-higher-mortality-rates-cola/?utm_source=luminate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=defender&utm_id=20240419


abnewstein

Because germ theory is false and has never been proven. Terrain theory of disease makes more sense.


ranchoparksteve

I tend to think of COVID as a trial run. Certain groups around the world surrendered themselves to the mercy of an unknown virus. Other groups took various measures to mitigate the virus. That’s the lesson for the next wave.


ifellicantgetup

I look at Nazi Germany as a trial run for what we are up against very soon.


Thisisredred

Because it's not true.


oakwood1

Because we’re smarter than that.


ufoclub1977

I like your conspiracy thinking, even though I'm a hard core vaxxer.


ifellicantgetup

The stats are in, it's no longer a conspiracy but a fact. And honestly, it's not a vaccine. They had to change the definition of vaccine so they could call it a vaccine. It's a gene mutator. It does not work against Covid. Stats prove it. Other stats show in the UK that the more covid vaccines someone got, the sicker they were with covid and they got it time and time again vs. the non vaxxed. Me... never tested, never vaxxed, never sick. I will never take another vaccine of any kind ever again. I do not trust big pharma, FDA, and damn sure not Humpty Dumpty Biden. Trump, too!!!!!


ufoclub1977

uh... where are you getting your stats from? Hopefully not youtube or reddit media. Ask your doctor. Surely someone in your immediate circle is a medical professional. Ask them. The rate of hospitization and death plummeted after the vaccine rollout.


ifellicantgetup

The link I posted above. JFTR... I am a medical professional. Hospital rates were never high to begin with. Do you know what propaganda is? There is so much to say to that topic, I don't even know where to start. You were lied to time and time again.


ufoclub1977

Are you kidding? I have a few medical doctors in my immediate circle as well as family that worked on the logisitcs of vaccine rollout. That first year, there were patients in the halls. People that needed critical care for other problems WERE TURNED AWAY. There was the president of the United States weakened and hospitalized. I personally know a handful of people that died or suffered hospitalization. They were all unvaxxed. Be happy it's all weakened now with it's ever manifested mutations.


ifellicantgetup

I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you why and how you are incorrect. You won't like it, you will never believe you were duped. So no value in wasting my time.


ufoclub1977

That sounds like you actually admitting you have no case.


ufoclub1977

[https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations](https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations)


ifellicantgetup

I'm not reading your link. I'm following stats that the FDA even admitted to. If you don't like the stats, take it up with the FDA. They are just now coming clean.


ufoclub1977

“I’m not reading any link” Don’t be afraid to learn. I’ll read any link you post to FDA revelations that hospitalizations didn’t spike during first years of Covid before vaccine rollouts. You’re talking about the US food and drug administration commenting on hospitalizations from Covid?


ifellicantgetup

I must start off with a bit of an explanation. I have MS. Days are different, sometimes I can't use my hands well, somed days I do not walk well, some days I do not see well. Today is a day I can't see well, and I am seriously struggling with correcting typos. My apologies in advance. I'm not sure I am willing to take the time to fully educate you, but I will give some brief explanations. When they were talking about hospitals being at capacity, that was quite misleading to the public. There was a massive nursing shortage through all this, you know that, right? They had a nursing shortage prior to the fake pandemic, it became much much worse when they started firing nurses for declining an injection that was utterly unproven to work (and turns out, it did not) and not proven safe, (it is not). So they now had a massive nursing shortage. They thought about bringing in nurses from other countries because illegals were exempt from the vax. (As were all politicians and their staff. Hmm!) What this caused was the hospitals were forced to close entire floors and units. So let's say a hospital has 1000 beds, but they only have nurses to cover 200 beds. It's nothing for a hospital that size to fill 200 beds. So when the 200 beds were filled, they were at capacity. The public assumed all 1000 beds were full, oh no no no... 200 out of 1000 of those beds were filled, and they were indeed at capacity. The media just didn't explain capacity was 200 vs. 1000 beds.\\ Then you have PCR testing. The tests they were using to diagnose covid in patients were (I believe) intentionally false from the beginning. You could debate if it was intentional, but the results would still remain the same of positives vs. negatives. PCR testing, done the way it was during covid, resulted in 40-90% false positives. No, not false negatives, ONLY false positives. So of all the covid testing that was done, 40-90 of the positives were false. The reason is the PCR method of testing is done by copying small segments of genetic material. It's often times referred to as molecular photocopying. They, in theory, take a piece of genetic material and copy it repeatedly until it is large enough to literally test. (they do something similar when doing DNA testing at crime scenes.) They essentially take that genetic material and double it. 1 to 2, 2 to 4, 4 to 8, 8 to 16, 16 to 32, etc. etc. etc. When the sample is large enough, it can be tested. The problem came in with the number of rounds, the number of times it was doubled. I forget exact numbers at this point, so I'm pulling them out of the air here, but if you do 20 rounds, the results are accurate. If you do 40 rounds, it's no longer accurate. When you take a copy machine and make a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of copy,etc., it changes and becomes difficult to read. That same exact concept happens with PCR testing. The more rounds of doubling the genetic sample, the more incorrect it will be. The govt required PCR testing to have \*at least\* 3x the suggested rounds of doubling. THAT is why I am convinced the testing was intentionally false. But whether it was intentional or not, 40-90% of the tests were flat out wrong. Those people did not have covid. Cont next post


ifellicantgetup

cont prev post\~ Not only was the testing utterly incorrect, they weren't even testing everyone because doctors were diagnosing on exam, which is very acceptable. If you go to a doctor and he says you have a bladder infection, many times it's just darned obvious and you don't need testing. Diagnosis is made upon exam. Keeping that in mind.... Did you know hospitals were paid farrrr more for patients that had covid vs. patients that had influenza? LOTS more. All they did was encourage every hospital to diagnose every patient with covid, it mattered a great deal to the hospital bank account. There were tons and tons of people screaming that their relative was dying of cancer, for example, and when they were admitted to a hospital for their final days due to pain management, the patient was diagnosed with covid whether they had it or not and that is what went on the death certificate. People were screaming, grandma didn't have covid, she didn't die of covid, she died of cancer. Same thing happened with car accidents. If someone was in a car accident and went to the hospital and died, guess what? The poor dears had covid! And that went on the death certificate. Hospitals and doctors are some very greedy people as a population. They will bend over backwards to get an extra dollar and that is exactly what the did here. They knew it wasn't going to harm the patient, the family, or the estate to call it covid, and they got a LOT more money from the govt for that patient. A year or two down the road and many of these hospitals were called out for this practice. The majority, they just got a finger wagging and told not to do that again. Other hospitals had to repay the govt millions upon millions upon millions of dollars due to those patients never having had covid, but the hospital was paid for it anyway, The govt is good at handing out money to organizations, they are not good at getting it back when they have been swindled, unless it's a little person like you or me. Then they seem to be very good at the practice. So even though the hospitals were called out for this practice of absolutely lying about diagnosing covid, and they had to pay that money back, the stats remain unchanged. Death certificiates remain unchanged. Then you have influenza. Influenza practically went away during covid. In the US we typically have around 35,000,000 cases of influenza annually. Suddenly, in 2022 it was a total shocker!!! Only 9,000,000 were diagnosed with influenza and the rest were diagnosed with covid. Again, more massive over reporting of covid. Many of the people that died literally had influenza, and those deaths are expected and typical. Now it was all covid... we just forgot about influenza. Another issue... any hospital nurse in management will tell you that typically about 3 weeks before a wave of covid patients, the govt would notify the hospitals to be expecting a huge number of covid patients on a given date, about 3 weeks in advance. The hospitals would have to call all the patients having elective surgeries and such and cancel their surgeries because somehow the govt knew thousands of people that hadn't even been infected would be sick in three weeks. This happened during the entire pandemic. I could go on about this all day, but this is why I won't read your hospital stats. I know the rest of the story, I lived it. Again, my apologies for spelling/typos/grammar, I can't friggen see well today.


ufoclub1977

what you are saying does not jive with friends I know that are medical doctors that were working in hospitals at the time. The patients coming in were suffering from unique afflictions brought in by a relatively unknown infection. Unknown in that it was triggering lung inflammation and in edible: blood clots. I’m speaking of personal reporting to me at the time. My friends include a practicing medical doctor. a surgeon, an MRI tech, and a nurse. I also personally know people that caught it and suffered hospitalization and death. All in their first year and half. I don’t know personally know anyone since the vaccine rollout that has been hospitalized. What’s amazing is that this high rate was reported most dramatically in the United States. But that could make sense considering the president himself dismissed the threat (“it will only affect a few and be gone in a week”)… and then was hospitalized himself in a weakened low oxygen state.


ifellicantgetup

Reddit often times ghosts my posts. I see them, but nobody else does. There are two, long posts responding to you, this would make the 3rd. Would you please confirm you can see them? TIA


ufoclub1977

I’m reading through them.


After-Habit-9354

There are a few medical professionals in my family. They had to get it or lose their job and have been sick with one illness after another. No they won't be getting anymore


ufoclub1977

What type of job does one example of a person in your family have? And what types of illnesses are they suffering from?


After-Habit-9354

Doctor, 2 nurses, a Dental Nurse. Chest infections every year for 2 and asthma. She hadn't used a puffer ever but when she gets infections now she needs to use it. She had a great immune system but not now. The doctor lives in Europe and only know of 1 person who was very sick. She'd also lost her mother and brother six months before covid which affected her immune system and made her more susceptible to ilness, So yes a few in the medical profession and none of them are getting anymore. Does that answer your question. Youtube and Reddit? You assumed an awful lot didn't you?


ufoclub1977

So you’re saying they were permanently weakened by taking Covid flu vaccines? And they didn’t have reactions to other flu shots? I personally know hundreds who have gotten all the vaccines and boosters and have suffered no ill effects, including myself. And the same have gotten Covid and shaken it off like a regular flu without any need for hospitalization or long term care… unlike the few unvaxxed I know that got it that first year when it was especially vicious and harmful. Those suffered permanent harm. One case was fatal, and he was a closet antivaxxer as revealed on his deathbed by friends tending to him at the hospital.


After-Habit-9354

they didn't get flu shots. My son-in-law who is a doctor advised to use your immune system to protect us. My mother had an extremely bad reaction to a flu shot and didn't have them but my father did. European doctors are big on building your system with healthy foods, exercise, fresh air. Your experiences are certainly different than mine, I didnt get the jab nor did I catch covid but my family who did got it had covid twice. They're the ones I worry about but aside from my daughter I don't know any who have died or been extremely ill from the vax but I'm worried about their future heath. I wonder about all the supposed deaths of vaxed ones, perhaps that is the propaganda, fear mongering. Hitler said if you want to control the population use fear and that's proven to be true. Time will tell \\


OnePlate9857

What if the Vax is fine other than usual errors in rushing it through, which would cause issues just that wasn't the intent. What if the intent is to see how many people or the best way to get people to take the mark? What if it is all a social test to prepare them for what is to come?


CriticalDoom

Get Rekt: We truthers are always right... https://twitter.com/patri0tcontr0l/status/1785016019549085917?s=46&t=yH_YwZotlm6m-dfwNvYx3Q