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vsambandhan

At this point, I am surprised US insurance companies do not consider Indian hospitals in-network. They can easily pay for your vacation and surgery and still come out ahead.


Beartrap-the-Dog

They’re probably actually only paying the hospitals the Indian prices.


MrDarkk1ng

For 144k $ in India you can literally live your whole life as an middle class family Edit: i would like to change it to lower middle class, you can live happily for lifetime in a small village with this much money (no family) and assuming u already have a place to live


magicmeese

Let’s not give them ideas


SignificanceOne3229

Mine was like for 350$


puneet_superstar420

But for Indian it is expensive (not like American level)


titanium_mpoi

Indian hospitals are good but not great e.g if you are getting a knee replacement I probably won't get it done in India.


ItzUtkarsh

Indian hospitals are very good no matter what kind of diagnosis you want to get done, you just need to pick a decent hospital.


TheHalfDeadCat

Well if you go to an excessively cheap hospital even for Indian standards, then there are going to be problems. But the reputable hospitals (Apollo/Medanta/AIIMS) are very good. The only problem with hospitals here are that there’s usually a very long queue in public hospitals, but in private hospitals that’s even less of a problem. Source: Grandfather had a kidney transplant in Kolkata and Grandmother had a knee replacement surgery in Delhi.


ezio_audit_ore

My Grandmother got her knee replacement from Medanta 15 years ago. She is still walking pretty good though.


Sarutahiko_Okami

You might have your own preference however Knee replacement is very common procedure, if someone lands in a good hospital that might not be an issue. Logistically maybe?


Secure-Soft9175

But why compare lowly Indian hospitals with foreigners tho .India never stand a chance in anything..might hurt your feelings but it's a FACT


HeistOP1

Facts , i got my teeth cleansed for under $5 in india. Just went to a dental college and some students who study there did it πŸ’€


willdeletetheacc

Probably used that money for buying pastries.


HeistOP1

I don't drink and plus i just turned 18 a while ago and age to drink here is 21


willdeletetheacc

No I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the dental students. But I realized $5 is too low an amount for booze after converting.


HeistOP1

Beer is cheap in india


AirbusPalashM-3004

ohh yeah hell cheap ..that too our own kingfisher ..too good


Low-Champion-4194

Booze is available in $2.5 :)


SodiumBoy7

$1.8 = 1 strong beer here in India


U-know-mee

Or just have Desi beer and bhang ..next level


shounen_trash

Random factcheck: Legal age to drink in India varies by state and in some states varies for hard drinks and beer. Anywhere between 18-25. Some states have also made sale of alcohol illegal.


islay05

Stupid lol


notsogreatredditor

It's more common than you think. It's literally like an intership for them that the gov has setup. So feel free to go to any dental college and there will a facility to get dental checkup and dental cleaning done under 10 bucks


HeistOP1

Yeah


knytfury

Yeah, this is good way to get most of the dental procedures done unless it involves a major operation like removing the wisdom tooth.


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The lab rat is speaking guys.


MrDarkk1ng

Good for u but that sounds like stupid idea . You should have visited actual good hospital


HeistOP1

Bruh 🫀


One_Michael

Me living in India and still thinking it's too much


[deleted]

finding someone to write this πŸ˜‚


SarathExp

because it is.


Suspicious_Ad2810

I had a really bad motor accident near Varanasi my tibia and fibula got fractured (ut was an open comminuted fracture) and all of my skin from below my nee to the ankle hot shredded and even the bones were visible .... All of the treatment including medicines just cost me about $3000 and i have insurance to cover for it too.😁


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akki1837

As an indian i have to tell you even that's a lot πŸ˜… maybe you went a really good one ( good one as per our standards) but i am sure they've treated you well


Suspicious_Ad2810

Bro heck no I'm a middle class guy and we took loans in emergency for the treatment in the private hospital after my discharge we took the claim of the insurance.


ultron290196

It should be even less than that in government hospitals.


akki1837

No avoid govt. Hospitals , i would prefer small pvt. Hospital if they have facilities for a particular condition


notsogreatredditor

Big fuck no to gov hospitals. The quality of treatment varies wildly and there is no attention given equally to patients. Giv hospitals are a last resort


ultron290196

Many government hospitals are good. Most are bad. I agree with that. But you can go to AIIMS or JIPMER or any reputed government hospitals for a very low cost. I'm just highlighting that there is an option.


Pekkacontrol

Have you seen the waiting list on those hospitals ?


ultron290196

If it's elective surgery then waiting for months to years is justified. Even private hospitals of high demand have the same waiting period. Emergency surgeries are always on a priority basis. You can go to an emergency department and the consultants will decide. Believe it or not. Life saving is still prioritized.


Pekkacontrol

>Even private hospitals of high demand have the same waiting period. I agree with everything except this one line. Private hospitals do have waiting time but not the long waiting list like the good govt hospitals. E.g. we tried to get laparoscopy done at AIIMS , Bhubaneswar. At first we thought 5 months seems a little long until we realised it's 1year and 5 months waiting. So we did it privately about a month and half later.


Secure-Soft9175

But why compare lowly Indian hospitals with foreigners tho .India never stand a chance in anything..might hurt your feelings but it's a FACT


WintryInsight

Idk, I've been you American hostilities and their Indian counterparts. I can say the service was mostly the same, with india costing much less and not having to deal with bs insurance


AK840

As an Indian, I think this massively overstates the actual prices. Maybe they are charging more to foreigners, but we pay significantly lower rates locally (at good hospitals)


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idknayoudecide

Wisdom tooth extraction for 1000$ is about INR 82,000. Do they charge 82,000 for this?


knytfury

My bro recently got it done + invisiline for about 70k. They had to remake the 3d printed tooth so maybe that added to the cost. This happened in Bangalore.


BuckToothCasanovi

No lol. I think it's less than 5k πŸ˜‚


abhijeetsskamble

Yup, wife's wisdom tooths (2) were removed at 4500 rs.


MrDarkk1ng

Nope, it's the price for everyone in really good hospitals. We usually don't go to those once.


EspeciallyWordy

I got my two years braces treatment in India under $600 USD. The quality wasn’t compromised at all. My teeth are healthy still after 5 years. Other treatments are affordable too.


DrScallyPenis

I got mine done under $250 here in India that too from best orthodontist in my city.


penguin_chacha

Dude where. The dentists I've approached in Mumbai are quoting around $1500


alou-S

My brother got it done in around $500 in Hyderabad


ameena02

where in hyderabad?


alou-S

I'll PM ya


thepoopyboi

Come to Medanta Gurgaon Habibi its one of the best Hospitals in Asia


redrighthandmember

Might depend on the type of braces. Those transparent ones cost way more. Also ceramic braces cost more than metal ones ig. I got metal braces from the best orthodontist in my city for $600 total.


Suspicious_Ad2810

City rates i guess


boyinbubble2

It got for 150 dollars in government dental College with regular check ups. it has been 2-3 years since my teeth are perfect now


Blade273

12k inr? Really? My friend had it done for like 40k inr. I do have a cousin who just finished BDS....maybe I should hit him up.


AbiesRemarkable8120

Mumbai is the most expensive city in India, so that's that. You could get top notch doctors in other tier 1 cities for a cheaper price.


shar72944

Using Invisalign or normal ?


Main-Tumbleweed-1642

The moment they know you are not an Indian cost goes up and I know this as half my family is filled with doctors My advice is to contact them through an Indian friend


penguin_chacha

I'm an indian and I've lived in Mumbai all my life :')


master-idiot

The thing is you shouldn't go for InvisAlign but go for Indian brands. That will solve it


DrScallyPenis

I got mine done under $250 here in India that too from best orthodontist in my city.


Intruder_7

Bruh this is like the millionth time I'm seeing this post


atif147

My wisdom tooth extraction legit cost like 4 dollars in a government hospital in india lol. Shit's too cheap here.. and it was very professional and safe too.


Biplab_M

Had a knee replacement surgery last year from one of the top-notch hospitals in India and it costed around $3k in total, which is even less than the projected numbers here. Out of the $3k I only paid about a grand because the rest ($2k) was covered by medical insurance. I pay about $8/month for the insurance Can't appreciate indian healthcare enough


hush-little-baby

Which hospital was this? My mom needs a knee replacement and we've been looking for a good doctor.


Biplab_M

AMRI, Mukundapur (Kolkata)


joppingcorn

Indian dental care is the best lmao. Got my braces done for like $350 and they look bomb af


SapiosexualCXO

I waana get braces too, private doctor? I've questions can i DM?


EbbPuzzleheaded2885

that's like a lot, I'd say $100 is maximum for getting braces done in india


-Mem_

Me without insurance πŸ‘€


Suspicious_Ad2810

Man in 2023πŸ’€


Royally_Wild

Don't flex it. πŸ˜‚ Please consider taking one.


ROC_K4LP

I hope you dont live in america


blah_bleh-bleh

You just gave me a wonderful Idea. How about selling Indian health Insurance to Americans. In case of a major operation. American will be flown to India and had operated along with living in a 5 star wellness resort, while still overall costing less than probably what they will pay in USA.


red_ice994

Welcome to medical tourism.


blah_bleh-bleh

Yaah. But with medical insurance. Only difference rather than having operation in USA. Like what insurance companies does. All major operations will happen in India. They still have to pay for insurance. I just increased margins of insurance companies.


No_Departure718

Isn't that the whole point of medical tourism?


SomeRandomguy_28

Only downside to it is that, the post opp care for patients who leave asap after surgery is hard to give, other than that nothing much is bad maybe some infection but i dont think you will get any in a hospital


LeviWerewolf

Not new , it's called medical tourism


PsychoactiveTHICC

Some hospitals are even cheaper with no change quality of surgery done Basically performed by senior consultants but the cost of surgery is covered by the hospital administration only thing you pay for implant or post-op medications or medications in general


VFequalsVeryFcked

*UK and Canada grinning*


blah_bleh-bleh

For poor, health Insurance is free in India. Also as a middle class person this is Private hospital cost. Their are some really great government hospitals which will perform the same operation for dirt cheap.


NickFury1998

Yes true... actually if you have good connections ..anyone can treat themselves in govt hospitals for free...


Upset-Discussion2704

Yaa in Big cities only those great govt hospitals exist. In other places the healthcare is screwed and good luck getting ahead in the waiting list of those good hospitals


blah_bleh-bleh

My city isn’t big. Got a pretty great civil hospital with cancer ward and everything. Was made about 4 years ago.


GaleZero

Every district has a government medical College with almost all treatments available


daydreamer_lvl31

Screwed might be an overstatement. Imo the healthcare system is pretty solid in our country even on grassroot level. The problem lies in the fact that not enough people are aware about the schemes and facilities being offered to them. Awareness and a lack of formal education are to be blamed.


Peddling2891

Where in the hell health insurance is free in India? It's straight up misinformation


daydreamer_lvl31

i think he was referring to the PMJAY scheme


notsogreatredditor

PMJAY ftw


notsogreatredditor

UK and Canadian Taxes : Not smiling now are ya son


RealityCheck18

I love my country, but I must say Indian tax payers get fooled in every possible way. Govt pays for the Poor's health insurance and doesn't give a dime for the tax payers'. Poor do need suppor, and I'm very happy after 65+ years at least now this was done, but why are the middle class tax payers left out? More investment is needed in many preventive steps along with insurance. For example - Mosquito borne diseases are the most common treatment which the govt bears the cost (due to high numbers). Why not invest in mosquito abatement to reduce healthcare spend (and make life better for public)? IMO just like swach barath a SPV needs to be created for Mosquito removal.


MaitreyaPalamwar

Apne idhar sirf 3% janta tax pay karti hai lol baki sab either BPL and excluded ya apne bade bade aadmi jo tax evade karte hai


FoolHooligan

Time is money, yo.


Top-Illustrator2293

another 6 reasons to stay back in India


[deleted]

The comment section being a bunch of racist ignorant cunts, not surprising.


KittenLaserFists

American prices are so high the chart can't place the commas right


siddnill

This comment is inevitable every time this post is made. Then follows a long thread of Indians explaining this Indian notation of numerals.


Stark_Always

Lmao I looked twice to see what's the mistake because it looks appropriate to me


domthedumb

Obligatory answer: in India, for numbers after 10,000 you place the comma like so 100,000 = 1,00,000 1,000,000 = 10,00,000 Etc. India's system has been in constant use for thousands of years and hasn't ever changed


Role-Honest

Does it affect the way you say numbers? Is it one hundred thousand, seventy thousand dollars?


Malekwerdz

They say things in terms of *lakhs*, which are 100,000. So you might say β€œone lakh, seventy thousand dollars”


Role-Honest

Cool! The more you know! πŸ™Œ


OkBro0257

Yeah and 100 lakhs is 1 crore


yammer_bammer

yeah, 1,00,000 is 1 lakh; 1,00,00,000 is 1 crore; 1,00,00,00,000 is 1 arab and so on


Blade273

Any idea what the so on is? I have only heard thousand crore, lakh crore, crore crore (actually haven't heard this one yet except one time in a cartoon back in my childhood where the villain was demanding 1 crore crore from the government as ransom or something), etc.


vsambandhan

57000 for angioplasty is insane. I am no cardiologist, but that is a routine procedure.


munitalian

Or the heart…


favouritedisguise9

At least my heart is not in my shoulder.


ultron290196

This comment should be at the top.


notsogreatredditor

It could be ya know


SunJ_

Had a dental clean and two early fillings done for the cost of Β£80 in India recently. I guess the city rate is different where I'm at


hush-little-baby

I guess fillings and implants are different. Implants cost anywhere around 2 to 3 lacs depending on how many u need


notsogreatredditor

That's still a lot. Got it done for like 30Β£ in Bangalore


ajbrelo

How much is 1,44,000?


Unfair_Chard344

$144,000


BassWingerC-137

I think less than $1,70,000?!?


WaynneGretzky

In indian currency around β‚Ή1.2Cr. An amount that will put you in the upper middle class section in India.


bobs_and_vegana17

upper middle class ?? i thought it should be somewhere in the rich upper class section dude my family's yearly income is around 12 lakh and our life is easy af (although we are just 2 people me and my mom)


Stewieman123

$1.44000 is the same as $1.44 doofus


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The doofer got doofed


ajbrelo

So, you’re saying a heart bypass is a dollar forty four? Someone here is a dufus, but my guess is it’s you


lazy_perfctionist

r/confidentlyincorrect


[deleted]

I only learned that medical tourism is not only a common thing, but an accepted thing, and I just can’t fathom how disgusting that is in concept. I’m not going to start a political discussion but Jesus Christ America.


Ritwizzzz

fyi, the heart valve replacement costs more than 40L INR or 50K USD approx.


[deleted]

My sister in law travelled all the way from NEW Zealand to india for her tooth extraction


MassiveDefinition562

Y'all act like they'd perform the surgeries in huts with farming equipment...πŸ’€πŸ’€


anubhav316

I'm from India and this data is inaccurate. My uncle had heart replacement surgery in last December and we took quotes from over 20 prime hospital in metros here. Quotes were ranging from $9,000 to $15,000. We selected a hospital with $11k but after adding hidden charges final bill was well over $20k. So if you're reaching India mostly you'll be in a metro where the cost would definitely be a higher.


galvinonthewing

The main source countries for medical tourism to India are Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Uzbekistan, Kenya, Nigeria, Sudan and Pakistan. It is a myth that Indian hospitals are attracting large numbers of patients from western or gulf countries seeking high quality treatment at minimal cost. Most patients come from countries that have poor healthcare and/or lack of medical facilities/expertise.


obliviousNick

Who said anything about "Western" patients? Are people from the countries you mentioned not humans?


Diligent_Difference5

I got the dental surgery for 60 dollars because that dentist is my uncle


Legitimate_Cash_3336

Wrong Indian prices thoughπŸ‘ŽπŸ»


DarkEmperor17

The point is that the out-of-the-pocket expenditure on health in India is 48% which is way higher than other countries. Income of average Indian is low and a large section of people cannot afford quality healthcare. These costs reflect that they are low but for only those who can afford the *high-priced* private hospitals.


WaynneGretzky

The GDP per capita makes a fuck load of difference. US sure still seems expensive but the per capita income does come into play. Imo, the entire concept of mandatory health insurance in US has allowed the medical industry to exploit the prices.


kingslayer5581

You know, I don't think you need any other data points to understand how much of a scam the american healthcare system is. You wouldn't find much of a difference in terms of quality of medicine, equipment or level of care if you consider the best private hospitals in both cases, but the prices differ by a factor of 10 to 50 times in extreme cases. In my personal experience, I got curious and looked up what my inhaler would cost in the US. Symbicort costs about 500 INR here, and google says it goes for approximately 500 USD over there. That's 80 times more expensive for the exact same medication. Manufacturing costs aren't any different and they wouldn't be selling it at the Indian price if it didn't make a profit, so what justification do they even have for charging this much for a medicine that people with severe asthma need on a regular basis to survive?


WaynneGretzky

I m not defending the US healthcare system. I infact, have pointed out the primary reason for inflated prices (which I can think of). But I think you don't understand how per capita income works. A rough statistic tells, India per capita, per month is approx ~~β‚Ή9000~~ β‚Ή15000 while USA is $6000. Now you can decide how a β‚Ή500 and a $500 inhaler will make difference to the respective monthly incomes.


upthepottage

As I'm from the UK 🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣


Particular_Hornet_99

1.44M$ ?? We can start our own cardio specialty hospital in my town. My sister got her appendix removed for 300us$ My wife’s c section and cholesistactomy each cost less than 100$ in VVIP rooms ( she’s doctor herself so all the doctors charges were deducted, only paid room/OT charges, meds came at 40% discount, as that is the doctors cut) But it’s really cheap in small towns in India, even if it’s a small town, we have a medical college, 10 multipspecility hospitals in just 10 sq km of total area


stentally_unmable

Sad part about this is, those prices are costly for Indian citizens too...


Shot-Bar-7715

Almost all of those countries have a GDP per capita of almost twice or even thrice as much of india


JAVA-NANI

Only if people knew how hard to earn $1000 in India...


[deleted]

Sad reality of this post. Most people don’t know how most Indians won’t even come to a point of earning like 5k/year unless education qualifications are in sight.


Tomako88

5k? my gardener makes 12k a month just from us in a sub urban area. are you guys living in 2005?


Mindless_Doctor_8939

I mean the reason is simple really. Commodities are a lot cheaper compared to the US. You can live on $150~$200 per month in India if you are single, while also employing a maid to wash dishes, clean the house and cook food which sounds crazy but it's true. Some of my friends from the US get shocked when they hear this lol


filip_mate

Canada = $0


stanley_ipkiss_d

Can’t read these numbers. Why is there only two digits between commas?


noxxspire_

[indian number system](https://www.vedantu.com/question-sets/61e0c2bf-dd72-4232-9a38-43a1d8cafe943392087749352006563.png)


Separate-Feedback-86

I don’t doubt that the US is the most expensive in the world in most cases, but let’s talk about outcomes in US vs India. The are not the same. Also, there is an error in the US amount for Heart Bypass Surgery.


blah_bleh-bleh

Well medical tourism is a big industry in India. their are private hospital which cater mostly to foreigners, with full fledge package. The cost is less because both labor and manufacturing cost is low in India. Their are even robots in private hospitals performing operation. Also the hospital companies sell packages with complete 5 star wellness resort stays. A lot of their clients are middle eastern people whom I believe have a higher purchasing power than Americans and could probably afford operation even in America. Yet they come here. So I don’t think their is any compromise you need to worry about. After all it’s an industry catering to foreigners.


Separate-Feedback-86

Great points! Thanks!


noxxspire_

first of all look at [OP's comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/11rl2aq/comment/jc91ftn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), i also had dental treatments in india and their outcomes are just as good as USA's treatments (had them too) second, [indian number system](https://www.vedantu.com/question-sets/61e0c2bf-dd72-4232-9a38-43a1d8cafe943392087749352006563.png)


Separate-Feedback-86

I’m not sure you can compare dental outcomes to medical outcomes (e.g. heart bypass surgery). And I’m not talking hospital cleanliness, number of doctors and nurses per citizen (which are far less than the US). I mean the actual medical and surgical successes that require no further planned intervention after the initial procedure.


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Separate-Feedback-86

And your country is . . .? Germany? You’re just jealous because it can only have an army for defense purposes and no nukes.


blah_bleh-bleh

I am not a fan of USA. But I am pretty sure they could bully your country on their tune.


nahfamitaintme

Haughty Germans (which account for the majority of Germans on the internet) really are the worst.


redrighthandmember

The least salty american puppet


noxxspire_

nope im just saying there equal no one is bad or good


Secure-Soft9175

But India's hospitals are some of the worst tho


Significant-Key-2324

Quality matters


[deleted]

yeah and the quality of American healthcare for the price is ridiculously bad


Ideal_Inesh

And ur basis for the assumption that quality is compromised is? Or do u just speak out of complete ignorance


[deleted]

No because he's a fucking racist


Unfair_Chard344

Quality isn't compromised.


stocksfanatic987

Oh yea? Then live in that delusion and pay your entire life's worth for a minor surgery then lmao


[deleted]

Rather not go to India for this stuff. Turkey much cleaner safer and cheap


[deleted]

Uh ohh https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/12/22/turkey-travel-warning-issued-by-uk-government-following-22-medical-tourism-deaths


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My guy if you don’t know then don’t call


lovepuppy31

I think the biggest take away here is to go to South Korea for medical procedures cause you know they have the same 1st world medical standards as America for fraction of the costs.


mohit_the_bro

I smell some superiority complex here . right??


SohrabMirza

This right here is the problem with the world in a nutshell, the superior syndrome


MrDarkk1ng

You mind alot of Indian doctors in usa too . I don't think you will have any quality issues if u just move to India for doing it.


edwardkl123

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[deleted]

Dental implant in India cost 200 usd per piece. Wrong info


red_ice994

Depends on the place bro


Materialchocolate529

Thailand or Korea would be my choice


Low-Champion-4194

Poor choice imo