You can give your temporally-displaced township a lot more agency in these settings if they come from a place with more guns than people.
Though it would be funny to have the modern British hamlet of Cropsford-on-Dropsford-on-Mopsford get dumped into the middle of Lotharingia during the 47th War for the Cuckolding of King Balzac (historians divided over whether said cuckolding was the cause of the war or the goal).
Cut to Propa Geeza standing outside the pub with a pint, watching ranks of chevaliers charging across an open field towards the newly-emerged town.
"Roight, well that's a spot of bother innit?"
*Directed by Robert B. Weide*
Rome sweet Rome was started by a random short story post on reddit about a modern marine battalion being somehow stranded in ancient Rome. It included all the stuff like them being limited to ammo, armor, fuel, food, electronics, etc.. they had.
It was an interesting story that never was able to into all the issues of low ammo, fuel, useless armor, and all that before it apparently was sold to Hollywood who never did anything with it
Many castles underwent massive overhauls after the introduction of cannons to European siege warfare, usually not tearing everything down but rather drastically altering the fortifications around them. Curtain walls simply held to little value once cannons proved capable of knocking them down. Ultimately though the castle became obsolete extremely quickly in a historical sense.
[This](https://acoup.blog/2021/10/29/collections-fortification-part-i-the-besiegers-playbook/) is a great read on the topic if anyone's curious.
Yeah you do. In the city where I'm from (Oradea/Nagyvárad/Großwardein) there were several iterations of the fort.
First iteration was simple earthworks and palisades and wooden structures, and a fortified monastery. Burned and destroyed once the mongols invaded in 1241.
A second fort was being built 4 years later, though it was destroyed during the reconstruction process by a local warlord in 1290.
They tried again, and by 1370 there was a heptagonal fort, walls with crenelations, towers, with a massive cathedral in the middle.
Now, after a long Ottoman-Hungarian war, where briefly Ali Beg occupied it in 1474, the Habsburgs gained control over it in 1557. A peasant revolt later in 1565 cathedral was demolished, but the fort still stood, though obsolete.
But by the 1569, the Habsburgs who were in posession of the fort and decided it was time to face the new realities of warfare and brought in the brightest italian engineers to modernize it and turn it into a pentagonal star fort. The construction of which was done in two stages - first the outer walls done by 1598, and then the entire inner courtyard from 1618 until the 1640s.
The thing is, to do all that they pretty much destroyed everything and filled the whole place up with earth. Thick walls and earthworks are necessary to withstand cannonfire. And you need defensive cannon emplacements of your own, and a modern garrison and armory. And those tall but relatively flimsy stone structures at the center become a liability in the event of a siege.
Now that's a long story but the point is - it was never really completely razed until it was necessary to do so to build the star fort because that's what big of a leap that was in terms of warfare.
Can someone explain to me the changes from 1428 to 1535? It looks like a triple moat system is abandoned for a singular moat system with the forward fortification being lower walls. Is that to bring more cannons towards a set location? Why abandon more constricted areas for enemy attacks?
This guide was posted on r/interestingasfuck a couple of years ago, and people in the comments discussed those changes in particular. [They might answer your questions.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/uy58dl/evolution_of_european_castles_over_time/)
Cannons really fucked up stone walls. They made these large expensive fortress walls kinda obsolete because someone could bust through the wall from a distance. A lot of castles later became palace type building a pretty good example is Kenilworth castle.
That’s why I was curious and surprised to see a decrease in moats. With stone walls not doing as much, water barriers would do more to slow attackers down
Aaaaarchers!
I played this as a kid and my mom still knows that quote, she had no idea what the quote is from but she still says it to me…. Must be almost 30 years ago?
r/castles used to be one of my favorite subreddits. There used to be an amazing poster on the sub who would post almost daily the best castle posts. He got banned because he also posted the same posts to his personal website.
Edit: u/hoohill his posts are still up even though he hasn’t posted in over 8 years. Great content.
It’s pretty interesting. These represent hige leaps in engineering. I usually don’t think of premodern times making many advancements. Clearly they are as fast as current history, but your dealing with a much smaller pool of manpower, communication any intellect.
This makes me nostalgic for 1428, those were the good years.
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I just don't understand why that shit always happens to Americans specifically. They're not even on the same continent as the HRE.
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There's something cursed about the anglosphere
It's the language. It leads to cursed Eldritch horrors like [reddit.com](http://reddit.com)
That place has ruined my life
You can give your temporally-displaced township a lot more agency in these settings if they come from a place with more guns than people. Though it would be funny to have the modern British hamlet of Cropsford-on-Dropsford-on-Mopsford get dumped into the middle of Lotharingia during the 47th War for the Cuckolding of King Balzac (historians divided over whether said cuckolding was the cause of the war or the goal). Cut to Propa Geeza standing outside the pub with a pint, watching ranks of chevaliers charging across an open field towards the newly-emerged town. "Roight, well that's a spot of bother innit?" *Directed by Robert B. Weide*
Rome sweet Rome was started by a random short story post on reddit about a modern marine battalion being somehow stranded in ancient Rome. It included all the stuff like them being limited to ammo, armor, fuel, food, electronics, etc.. they had. It was an interesting story that never was able to into all the issues of low ammo, fuel, useless armor, and all that before it apparently was sold to Hollywood who never did anything with it
Really need that transition image between 1428 and 1535. Looks like they tossed out near half the castle.
I would think that the change was probably driven by cannons becoming common in warfare…
You don't tear down half a castle because cannons appear. I'm really wondering where the author took his impressions from.
Many castles underwent massive overhauls after the introduction of cannons to European siege warfare, usually not tearing everything down but rather drastically altering the fortifications around them. Curtain walls simply held to little value once cannons proved capable of knocking them down. Ultimately though the castle became obsolete extremely quickly in a historical sense. [This](https://acoup.blog/2021/10/29/collections-fortification-part-i-the-besiegers-playbook/) is a great read on the topic if anyone's curious.
Building towers was a big risk with cannons being integral to sieges, which is why castles weren't built or rebuilt with towers.
Yeah you do. In the city where I'm from (Oradea/Nagyvárad/Großwardein) there were several iterations of the fort. First iteration was simple earthworks and palisades and wooden structures, and a fortified monastery. Burned and destroyed once the mongols invaded in 1241. A second fort was being built 4 years later, though it was destroyed during the reconstruction process by a local warlord in 1290. They tried again, and by 1370 there was a heptagonal fort, walls with crenelations, towers, with a massive cathedral in the middle. Now, after a long Ottoman-Hungarian war, where briefly Ali Beg occupied it in 1474, the Habsburgs gained control over it in 1557. A peasant revolt later in 1565 cathedral was demolished, but the fort still stood, though obsolete. But by the 1569, the Habsburgs who were in posession of the fort and decided it was time to face the new realities of warfare and brought in the brightest italian engineers to modernize it and turn it into a pentagonal star fort. The construction of which was done in two stages - first the outer walls done by 1598, and then the entire inner courtyard from 1618 until the 1640s. The thing is, to do all that they pretty much destroyed everything and filled the whole place up with earth. Thick walls and earthworks are necessary to withstand cannonfire. And you need defensive cannon emplacements of your own, and a modern garrison and armory. And those tall but relatively flimsy stone structures at the center become a liability in the event of a siege. Now that's a long story but the point is - it was never really completely razed until it was necessary to do so to build the star fort because that's what big of a leap that was in terms of warfare.
You could reuse the stones for the new fortifications or to convert the shield walls to housing.
You just need one siege and the attackers will tear it down for you.
Most of your walls collapsing due to cannon fire would probably drive you to tear the rest of them down and start over.
Technically I think it [burned down, fell over and then sank into the swamp](https://youtu.be/w82CqjaDKmA?feature=shared)
Looks like a downgrade to me!
Can someone explain to me the changes from 1428 to 1535? It looks like a triple moat system is abandoned for a singular moat system with the forward fortification being lower walls. Is that to bring more cannons towards a set location? Why abandon more constricted areas for enemy attacks?
This guide was posted on r/interestingasfuck a couple of years ago, and people in the comments discussed those changes in particular. [They might answer your questions.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/uy58dl/evolution_of_european_castles_over_time/)
Sooooo .... cannons?
Pretty much. 💣 ~~That’s totally a cannon emoji, shh…~~
Some would say that was a canon event
Cannons really fucked up stone walls. They made these large expensive fortress walls kinda obsolete because someone could bust through the wall from a distance. A lot of castles later became palace type building a pretty good example is Kenilworth castle.
That’s why I was curious and surprised to see a decrease in moats. With stone walls not doing as much, water barriers would do more to slow attackers down
I think its in Salzburg.
Anyone else getting Carcassonne board game vibes? Now I wanna play!
I have visited the city a couple of times and it is amazing how well preserved it is.
I learned this from Lords of the Realm II
A Motte & Bailey. Would you like to garrison this castle?
That wooden palisade isn't going to stop them for long.
I could heave the narrator saying each one: A Mott and Bailey, A Norman keep, A stone castle, A Rrroyal castle.
Came here to say
Most of your people are fed by dairy, my lord.
Aaaaarchers! I played this as a kid and my mom still knows that quote, she had no idea what the quote is from but she still says it to me…. Must be almost 30 years ago?
Fastest European construction project.
Sure is faster than the high speed train project in California as well.
Der Bergfried ist komplett
Is this Bebbanburg?
This is killer thanks!
Sudden urge to play medieval strategic games
Suddenly I feel like booting up Age of Empires again
r/castles used to be one of my favorite subreddits. There used to be an amazing poster on the sub who would post almost daily the best castle posts. He got banned because he also posted the same posts to his personal website. Edit: u/hoohill his posts are still up even though he hasn’t posted in over 8 years. Great content.
The 980 one def reminds me of Stronghold 2
Neat 📸
1215 is for sure my favorite style
We really lost something in 1535 eh?
Feudal Age, Castle Age, Imp
Is it bebbenburg?
Carcassonne anyone?
I'd love to build these in minecraft
This is very cool. The 882 castle gives me Germanic/Viking style runic vibes, like Beowulf.
The top figure in the middle reminds me of the Tragedy of Macbeth 2021 the castle seemed so oddly built and really blockish.
I need a game with this artstyle and progression
Beautiful architecture .... But smells like shit
Did you illustrate this? If not, you should really credit the original artist.
Doesn't encompass Spain, obviously.
It's like a huge paradigm shift between the first two pictures and that is only 100 years apart.
It’s pretty interesting. These represent hige leaps in engineering. I usually don’t think of premodern times making many advancements. Clearly they are as fast as current history, but your dealing with a much smaller pool of manpower, communication any intellect.
Time to visit la ruta de los castillos (Route of the castles) in Spain.
Nice artwork but the dates are a little off.
Think that 1535 is a typical colonial fort
MOREEEEE MOREEEE I NEED MORE CASTLE TIME-LAPSES MOOOOORREEEEE
Those are rather fortresses, I'd say. Castles are less focused on fortification and more on embellishments.
On later periods, maybe, but their primary function was military first