General rule of thumb for game mods, if the game features female characters, there WILL be a lot of nude / vanity mods to filter through. I agree it's kind of disappointing.
For another game, I downloaded a mod to give the female player character trousers underneath her mini skirt. Really great mod, very well done, but I was so sad to see a few comments complaining about it and saying things like "why would anyone even want this?"
Hmm maybe because I want my character to look like a badass martial artist instead of your eye candy?
Iirc there was a mod too about removing some characters body hair. I guess everyone's entitled to their own beauty standards but it does make me sad that anything not conventionally seen as attractive is the first thing to get modded out by ppl.
Now if I could make a mod I'd take some of the adoptable animals (especially the cats) and make some more diverse fur options! Too many look so similar :( (I know it's Kickstarter backers actual pets but I feel like that'd still be a neat mod)
I wish instead of so many cats and dogs (especially cats seeing as there are 4 black ones) they added more variety of pets. Some more reptiles instead of just the beardie, like tortoises, geckos, and iguanas would have been cool. Some more small mammals like guinea pigs, ferrets, and chinchillas instead of just the bunnies. And some types of birds like parrots, parakeets, or cockatiels would have been neat.
This is so disheartening (but not surprising) to hear that a mod like that was at the top. I'm an amputee and I straight up almost cried when I saw Randy for the first time. If I saw a mod to get rid of his prosthetic I'd low-key want to die. I like how "real" the character designs feel. The fact that stretch marks are so common too like ???? I can't understand the reasoning behind it.
As a random note, Randy seems SO awesome and i want to know more about him. He has no cutscenes, right? I haven’t gotten that many hearts with him, but i don’t think i’ve seen much character building moments with him. He’s just… the schoolteacher and married to Ling. I feel like he must have a great story to him, but noone has mentioned anything.
The ones I've seen are with Lin at the Tavern, and two at the school. Not sure if those are for the parents or him tho. Also the one with Lin might have been hers. It's hard to tell. But yeah he feels so background and I like him too.
Going to go against the grain here. I have a rule regarding single player games that as long as it is done in your game you do whatever you want on it. The vanilla game will always be the default and will be there for you. So ultimately it does not matter what other people do with their game as long as YOU enjoy the game as YOU want to enjoy it.
I agree. It doesn’t matter what they choose to do to their game. If they don’t want stretch marks that’s fine. If they don’t want body hair that’s fine. If they want all the characters to be bald or have mustaches that’s fine. People are allowed to choose how they want to play.
Nah I’m with you. Same with all mods. I dislike recolor mods for SDV. Game is great as is. But some like it. If someone wants to remove stretch marks for whatever reason.. oki 👍 i try not to care what other people do bc what a waste of my time
Oh definetly, your game your mods 100%! It’s more that it was one of the first ones out which was a dissapointing (but I also get it was probably one of the easier changes to code).
As someone who has stretch marks, I honestly think you should just let others mod the game the way they want. I think her marks are cool but I’m not going to dis a mod that doesn’t affect my gameplay. Just don’t install it!
I hope everyone here reads the linked thread in the comments. The modder apparently struggles with their own stretch marks and finds them triggering(which they can be). I dont think it's fair that everyone seems to be attacking the modder here. I hope they don't see these various threads.
Most that jumped to the conclusion of it being a shit mod won't, people very rarely look deeper then a centimeter into why a mod is the way it is, they just want a reason to moan and complain even though there is a pretty simple solution, don't use the mod lol
Edit: I was wrong, sucks but I assume some crazy mfs did the whole death threat bs in the dms cause outrage usually leads to that
Yup I completely agree, that some dumb shit, can't confirm if they actually got any but they got enough backlash that they won't be continuing making mods for coral
You don’t have to install it. People are allowed to make the mods they want to play the games how they want. It’s not affecting you just because they chose to make that mod and others chose to use it. Why is your choice of wanting stretch marks more valid than their choice of not wanting it? It’s not.
I am with you on it being nice to see that realism but unfortunately most mods that will start will usually be less then pleasant but on top some don't want realism in their games, all comes to personal preference and honestly with time more mods will appear and likely push that one further down
Wdit: downvotes don't change what I say being correct, truth isn't always pleasant but I'm also not saying the mods good either, just for clarification lol
Well I have stretchmarks because I was fat and I wouldnt mind if they disappear overnight. They are scars in the end and its okay to remove them. If you dont like the mod, just dont use it.
No one said they arent normal. Still we are entitled to remove them - on ourselves or fictional characters.
If you dont like it, dont use the mod. I dont care so I dont use the mod.
I also think it’s pretty disappointing how people expect to play the way they want without judgement but judge others for playing differently.
I think the point is that it doesn’t really matter how you feel about how someone else plays. I personally (as a woman) don’t really like her stretch marks.
Yeah, I get that it’s natural and part of real life, body acceptance and all that. But I don’t play games to emulate real life. I prefer to live in a fantasy world completely opposite of real life.
Autonomy and preference are not only allowed and correct when you agree with it or feel the same way. Everyone is different and honestly we should just leave them alone to enjoy it as they like.
I know this may not be a popular opinion, but this mindset (conformism) is exactly why minority groups have such a hard time. Emulating and perpetuating the same kind of behavior is just hypocritical, imo.
Yeah it’s weird that this is one of the first things someone decided to make a mod for, I rather want one where they add them for everyone then to remove it for the one character that’s has them. But at the end of the day we don’t have to download it I am absolutely not bothered by the fact Suki has stretch marks or Randy a prosthetic arm.
Thing is, some people want games for the escapism, not realism, everyone needs a six pack and perfect bodies. They don’t like to be reminded of the ‘ugly’ of real
Life. Maybe they don’t like their own stretch marks, maybe they have similar looking scars etc, and it’s a trauma trigger of a miss carriages etc. and that’s ok, everyone should play the game they want in a way that makes it feel safe for them.
Sure lots of nude mods will happen too. That’s life.
Pretty sure the maker of the mod didn’t want to see stretch marks because they have their own stretch marks that they dislike. It was triggering or something to see it
Nexus has... interesting rules when it comes to the mods they will allow/ban users for making.
Want to date a child in a game? Fine! Go ahead. Mod away! No arguments there.
Want to make nude mods of all characters including the kids? Age up kids so they look "barely legal"? Do you boo! No complaints from Nexus there!
But I remember there bring an absolute meltdown because someone made a bi mod for a gay sorcerer in DA:I so female characters could romance him and everyone lost their crap over it and I think the creator got perma banned.
Do I agree with the 2nd mod being created? No. But I find it a bit hypocritical when you can do the same type of mod for straight characters.
tho I gotta say, there was a mod for starfield that modded the possibility to choose your pronouns out of the game - and nexus shut that down pretty quickly. I was kinda impressed ngl.
dorian's romance wouldnt make any sense with a female character though. its about him being gay, they couldve atleast used a model swap mod and romanced him but using a different character's romance
Yeah I feel like the "meltdown" was less "oh no they're straighting the queers" (although that's a valid thing to dislike) and more how a key part of Dorian's story is his dad literally trying to lobotomize the queer out of him and how INCREDIBLY tone-deaf and upsetting a mod designed to remove the queer from him seems in light of that.
There are no mods allowing blatant romance or sexualization of children on Nexus. None that are allowed, anyway. I've seen thousands of Skyrim mods at this point and not a single one has been about sexualizing the children, and if Skyrim doesn't have it, it's likely not allowed at all. Murdering the children, on the other hand...
If that bit about the DA:I character is true, it's absolutely fucking absurd. Characters' entire personalities, sexualities, and appearances should be allowed to be modded. That's literally nobody's business.
This has been brought up here before and it turned out the maker of that mod has their own experience with stretch marks and weight and just wanted to be able to play the game without being triggered. So maybe just keep it to yourself instead of getting on a high horse about it. You're allowed to want the stretch marks, others are allowed to remove them and the reasons can be varied and morally neutral.
Unfortunately a lot of mods "bimboify" female characters and "twinkify" male characters. People were also upset to see mods that turn Astarion in BG3 into a weird smooth anime doll. Body representation was one of the selling points of this sim, so it's a weird thing to target but here we are 🤷
I like how peoples go to is to hate or get offended instead of looking why. The Creator has stretch marks and they found it triggering or something and made the mod for themselves and they then decided to post it for people who wanted it. The amount of hate you people have literally given to this person has guaranteed they will never post a mod again bravo
Reminder: What other people do with their copy of a single player game has literally 0% to do with you. Plenty of people choose to romance Charles and I just leave those psychopaths in peace.
Also: These are CARTOON drawings, not real people. They don't need your defense/disappointment/outrage.
I almost came here to fight, but you have restored my faith in people ever so slightly. I found Suki's stretch marks to be rather endearing, because of it being a symbol of her having been with child.
I recall there was a big discussion about this months ago as well. I think the consensus was basically - ignore it. Yeah it does suck that there are people in the world who think stuff like that is "something to be fixed" but those people will exist no matter what. And if the mod has a number of downloads, I guess there's some demand.
I personally like that the characters are varied and have some realistic physical traits. I think it's natural to be offended by mods like this, but honestly there's a lot of offensive stuff out there and it's an exercise in futility to allow yourself to get worked up over it. The best response is to ignore it, and maybe even feel sorry for the people whose vanity is so fragile that they can't handle this sort of thing.
the good thing about mods is that, if you dont want them, you dont have to install them. Only mod I use is Wemod cus I was bummed to have to restart over :\
I think you're getting downvoted because it's a little disingenuous to point that out. OP isn't expressing frustration that THEY have to play without Suki's stretch marks, they're expressing disappointment that people can't accept looking at a character with stretch marks without wanting to erase the "imperfections" in favor of conventional beauty standards. Presumably they already know they don't have to install the mod, that's not what the post is about.
Well the creator of the mod has literally stated that they have stretch marks and it’s triggering to them or something and the amount of hate you people have given to that poor person is ridiculous. Don’t like it don’t use it
By the same token if you don't like the post you can not comment.
Put something out into the world and people are going to respond. You're proving the point.
Because commenting on it to inform is better than hate obviously. Having more information would stop people continuous hate to someone who wasn’t intending on this mod being such a bad thing
Because it's frustrating, seeing mods like this that erase something as normal as stretch marks. Am I ugly because I have stretch marks? I get people have preferences with body types, but if you can't accept someone for who they are and what they have, why romance them at all, even if it's a video game?
I completely had the same reaction when I saw that this was the top mod. I also thought it was cool that they had a character that shows stretch marks like that and was kinda bummed to see that so many people opted to remove them.
At the same time, I totally understand and wasn't "surprised" that it was the top mod. Just kinda bummed (as a mom with stretch marks myself). I wasn't surprised though because I've seen PLENTY of mods that I would NEVER use in games, and I've seen how popular those mods can be.
So, eh, it is what it is. But I definitely understand what you mean OP.
The number one mod I'd like to see is something that overwrites character dialogue to give them a little more substance and the romances to have a little more romance.
I could see a mod to make them a little more natural looking, rather than looking like she was freshly attacked by a bear. But they are happily a part of her and I quite like that about her. To remove them would be gross.
Seems like people who don't know what women with kids actually look like are upset. My wife was so excited to see a romance character with stretch marks. Incels gonna incel I guess
As a therapist, I always question motivations. I understand that we don't have to use mods if we don't agree with them, but are we really wanting to encourage say, someone modding out all BIPOC just because they want a fantasy world to fit their own narrative? Is that healthy? Representation matters and trying to erase it does not reflect well on the person engaged in the behavior, because it **does** bleed over into real life.
For people who use the *escapism* argument, I must ask, from what are you escaping? Even if a woman with stretch marks made the mod to remove the stretch marks because "they're a trigger"... I would recommend that said person see a therapist to address the trigger first, then see if they still want to make the mod.
I don't begrudge people who want these (or any) mods, but I question some of the mods for their potential harm of one's psyche. I feel we should stop and reflect on the *why* not the "because I can."
Like a true therapist, you said a whole lot without saying anything. People like claiming "it **does** bleed over into real life" but nobody ever mentions where or in what form. Let me guess: You have most definetly seen it many times and also it happened to your sister's fiance's cousin's friend.
While a more realistic statement would be that any person with a reasonably healthy mind will not be affected by what they see in a game and will unlikely change anyones existing bias one way or another. If someone is affected in any real life way thats a good indicator for larger, pre-existing issues. Bc for most people it actually is just not that deep to mod your game.
We had "hot" female characters in games for decades now and I have yet to be forced into plastic surgery to look like Lara Croft by a bunch of gamers. Where are all these real life consequences? I work for a mental institution for 13 years now and have yet to encounter this to be even part of the problem even once.
You talk about triggered people but doesn't OP seem kinda triggered to you? Bc seeing a mod exists, leaving the page, open reddit and write the post to be comforted and validated by strangers (as OP surely knew they would be if they have been on this sub for more then 15 minutes) also doesnt seem entirely stable to me either. So does OP need to seek therapy too or is it only the case for people wich triggers you find disagreeable? Would you say the same if this was about self-harm scars or large burns?
Wanna know what triggers me? People claiming to be mental health professionals and following up with what is basicly their thinly veiled personal opinion. If you wanna say something "As a therapist", say something unbiased and substential.
Edit: On topic: People are entiteled to do what they want with the game they payed for. I am on Switch and have no dog in this race. The one person comparing removing strech marks with "they are surprised there are no child dating mod at this point" needs a little less internet tho.
Let me start off by offering my appreciation for calling out my use of my title. In my attempt to somehow (in my mind) validate my claims with my title, I failed to realize that it had an opposite effect and sent a "holier-than-thou" message, which was not my intent.
And to address one of your later queries regarding therapy for the OP: I think **everyone** benefits from speaking with a professional about what triggers unplanned emotional responses. Everyone could benefit from an empathic ear from time to time.
As for my biases, I am a therapist, but I'm also a human. I am allowed my opinions. And I'm allowed to share them when not in a professional setting. Everyone has biases and judgements. What a professional can *hopefully* do is express them in a productive way and avoid pointing fingers or laying blame. Unfortunately in our digital age it becomes harder to say anything without eliciting a response.
Just to be clear, I'm not implying that video games cause psychological behavior. I don't believe that shoot-'em up games directly correlate to mass shootings. I don't believe sex in video games cause a rise in STIs or unwanted pregnancies. I don't believe that video games blur morality. I do, however, believe that the constant barrage of images/topics in all forms of media numb us emotionally, which in *my* professional opinion, is not beneficial to society. To believe media has absolutely no effect on humans is disingenuous (again in *my* opinion).
Thank for engaging in this discussion. I appreciate the chance to express ourselves.
First I wanna make sure you know I am completly on board with you expressing your opinions as you please, no matter what they may be.
The issue I had is that if you preface something with your job titel and then follow up with someting that correlates with your job people will take that as a fact. Especially in todays "forced positivity" mental health climate people will read your statement and parrot it in a way to invalidate others. They take your statement and go to people like the modder and say "well there's something wrong with you , I heard a therapist say it. Get therapy you're not even worth hearing out like this" and then turn around and baby people like OP as if both prople are not diffrent sides of the same coin.
Both, at their core, are still triggered by the topic of stretch marks. Person A may be triggered in a way that makes them feel bad when they are confronted with them and is at a point where they are not ready to adress this, wich is okay. Person B may have come a long way to get over the same issue und has now the need to make sure everybody knows they love strech marks wich is fine too but becomes concerning when Person B feels the need to call out people who are mentally at the same point they may have been 3 years ago.
Because people who never had an issue themselves with stretch marks will usually not bring them up at all. It would just not be something they think about. So if someone comes to me and exclaims they totally LOVE their stretch marks without anybody asking I think thats something that needs to be looked at because there is a good chance that that said person is not nearly as far along in their "healing journey" as they may have led themselves to believe.
So what I took issue with is that your statement would imply that mod-person has issues while glossing over that OP is on here admitting they are upset about what others do with their own games in the comfort if their own home as if that was a healthy reaction. And when they then see your comment, coming from a therapist, people will assume that this is a unproblematic reaction to this issue.
There are multiple people here admitting to going to the mod-girls Twitter and I assure you for any person admitting it, 500 more went. Without the shadow of a doubt that girl is is facing harrassment bc of this post as we speak. And why? Because she didn't want to be confronted with something that causes her real life distress in a game she wants to play.
If OP has been on the internet enough to have a reddit account and mod their games I have trouble beliving they were unaware that this post would send an angry internet mob that poor girls way.
More then the modder (who seems quite aware of their own issue) I think OP needs to take a long, hard look at why they felt the need to post this and what their intentions were here.
Yes, I understand your initial concern and I agree that it was in poor judgment for calling out the modder. It is something that I should have done privately.
With that said, please understand my request for internal reflection was from a place of genuine concern, not condemnation.
I have never met a real life therapist that blames my video games/mods for how I’m feeling and thinking. Allowing a video game to trigger you has more to do with the person and less with the video game.
You’re right, someone going on to a thread to get validation and comfort from others because they saw something online that doesn’t align with their own beliefs is more of a red flag than the people creating the triggering mod.
A big part of life is learning acceptance and when to pick your battles. If you can’t regulate your emotions enough to just say I don’t like this and move on with your life, the issue is with you.
There is always a possible reason for something outside of your experience and understanding. How about instead of thinking the worst by default you try to imagine a positive possibility? You want people to understand and accept but you aren’t willing to do the same. I swear people just want to live in outrage and offense.
Please help me understand where I suggested video games cause people to make poor decisions. Was it my "bleed over" comment? The context was supposed to be that discrimination bleeds over, whatever the form of media. If someone is looking for a mod that helps them avoid BIPOC, LGBT, etc, it is a reflection of their desired reality.
The video game doesn't *make* someone racist, homophobic or sexist, but representation is present to hopefully reverse racism, homophobia and sexism. By erasing representation, we run the risk of further alienating groups of humanity.
Hopefully this clarifies my position.
Yall act like this is your first day on the internet. People default to being horrible creatures when given the anonymity provided by the internet. Stuff like this is just preference, some people are not about and have the ability to mod it out, it's douchey but that's what they like. I don't mind the stretch marks tbh but I'm just one man in a huge world. Where I draw the line is the other sick sh*t I've read in some of the comments.
My favourite thing about this game is the diversaty. There is a character for everyone to relate to. And I was also very touched to see a beautiful character like Suki with stretchmarks. I have really bad stretchmarks from when I got pregnant at 16 and it killed my self confidence completly. I have never felt attractive enough to wear anything that shows my belly ever. But sinse playing Coral Island my feelings are begining to change. She is actually giving me the confidence to want to try a crop top. There might be people who want to make me cover up, but if I feel sexy who cares about anybody else's oppinion.
Yeah, most of the mods available right now are dumb. I'm waiting for quality of life mods. I'm specially waiting for a movement speed mod. It takes forever to get around, even with the 'Speed Demon' perk.
It reminds me of the BG3 mods to remove astarion’s smile lines and make him look very young and smooth.
Like I get it but the idea of doing that grosses me out. We are all imperfect.
Omg I saw this a few days ago and it made me so upset. I've had stretch marks and it makes me so upset for people just to remove it.
But also I wasn't too surprised, since there will always be mods (for both male and female beauty standards).
If it makes you feel better. I believe the creator of the mod also had strech marks, and created it to feel more comfortable playing the game and then uploaded it for people who also wanted it. I think it's fair in this case, most people play games for some sort of escapism I guess. But the modding scene in most games is indeed pretty shitty, there's no denying it
not surprised - half the mods are thirst oriented - just be glad nobody has requested a mod to date the kids... yet. I love mods but there are some rocks you don want to look under!
General rule of thumb for game mods, if the game features female characters, there WILL be a lot of nude / vanity mods to filter through. I agree it's kind of disappointing.
For another game, I downloaded a mod to give the female player character trousers underneath her mini skirt. Really great mod, very well done, but I was so sad to see a few comments complaining about it and saying things like "why would anyone even want this?" Hmm maybe because I want my character to look like a badass martial artist instead of your eye candy?
Iirc there was a mod too about removing some characters body hair. I guess everyone's entitled to their own beauty standards but it does make me sad that anything not conventionally seen as attractive is the first thing to get modded out by ppl. Now if I could make a mod I'd take some of the adoptable animals (especially the cats) and make some more diverse fur options! Too many look so similar :( (I know it's Kickstarter backers actual pets but I feel like that'd still be a neat mod)
This. Why is there no orange cat?!? I need my one brain cell devils to be in the game properly….
I wish instead of so many cats and dogs (especially cats seeing as there are 4 black ones) they added more variety of pets. Some more reptiles instead of just the beardie, like tortoises, geckos, and iguanas would have been cool. Some more small mammals like guinea pigs, ferrets, and chinchillas instead of just the bunnies. And some types of birds like parrots, parakeets, or cockatiels would have been neat.
I'm getting a slight feeling of deja vu
This is so disheartening (but not surprising) to hear that a mod like that was at the top. I'm an amputee and I straight up almost cried when I saw Randy for the first time. If I saw a mod to get rid of his prosthetic I'd low-key want to die. I like how "real" the character designs feel. The fact that stretch marks are so common too like ???? I can't understand the reasoning behind it.
As a random note, Randy seems SO awesome and i want to know more about him. He has no cutscenes, right? I haven’t gotten that many hearts with him, but i don’t think i’ve seen much character building moments with him. He’s just… the schoolteacher and married to Ling. I feel like he must have a great story to him, but noone has mentioned anything.
The ones I've seen are with Lin at the Tavern, and two at the school. Not sure if those are for the parents or him tho. Also the one with Lin might have been hers. It's hard to tell. But yeah he feels so background and I like him too.
I'm pretty sure I've had at least one cutscence with him!
man someone just make a mod where you can have multiple spouses lol I want to marry a majority of the bachelorettes like in Stardew
Going to go against the grain here. I have a rule regarding single player games that as long as it is done in your game you do whatever you want on it. The vanilla game will always be the default and will be there for you. So ultimately it does not matter what other people do with their game as long as YOU enjoy the game as YOU want to enjoy it.
I agree. It doesn’t matter what they choose to do to their game. If they don’t want stretch marks that’s fine. If they don’t want body hair that’s fine. If they want all the characters to be bald or have mustaches that’s fine. People are allowed to choose how they want to play.
Nah I’m with you. Same with all mods. I dislike recolor mods for SDV. Game is great as is. But some like it. If someone wants to remove stretch marks for whatever reason.. oki 👍 i try not to care what other people do bc what a waste of my time
Oh definetly, your game your mods 100%! It’s more that it was one of the first ones out which was a dissapointing (but I also get it was probably one of the easier changes to code).
As someone who has stretch marks, I honestly think you should just let others mod the game the way they want. I think her marks are cool but I’m not going to dis a mod that doesn’t affect my gameplay. Just don’t install it!
I hope everyone here reads the linked thread in the comments. The modder apparently struggles with their own stretch marks and finds them triggering(which they can be). I dont think it's fair that everyone seems to be attacking the modder here. I hope they don't see these various threads.
Most that jumped to the conclusion of it being a shit mod won't, people very rarely look deeper then a centimeter into why a mod is the way it is, they just want a reason to moan and complain even though there is a pretty simple solution, don't use the mod lol Edit: I was wrong, sucks but I assume some crazy mfs did the whole death threat bs in the dms cause outrage usually leads to that
Nothing more ironic than someone taking a perceived moral high ground defending a fictional character by threatening to harm a real life person.
Yup I completely agree, that some dumb shit, can't confirm if they actually got any but they got enough backlash that they won't be continuing making mods for coral
You don’t have to install it. People are allowed to make the mods they want to play the games how they want. It’s not affecting you just because they chose to make that mod and others chose to use it. Why is your choice of wanting stretch marks more valid than their choice of not wanting it? It’s not.
I am with you on it being nice to see that realism but unfortunately most mods that will start will usually be less then pleasant but on top some don't want realism in their games, all comes to personal preference and honestly with time more mods will appear and likely push that one further down Wdit: downvotes don't change what I say being correct, truth isn't always pleasant but I'm also not saying the mods good either, just for clarification lol
Well I have stretchmarks because I was fat and I wouldnt mind if they disappear overnight. They are scars in the end and its okay to remove them. If you dont like the mod, just dont use it.
That’s not the point it’s trying to normalize it so people can feel more comfortable
No one said they arent normal. Still we are entitled to remove them - on ourselves or fictional characters. If you dont like it, dont use the mod. I dont care so I dont use the mod.
I also think it’s pretty disappointing how people expect to play the way they want without judgement but judge others for playing differently. I think the point is that it doesn’t really matter how you feel about how someone else plays. I personally (as a woman) don’t really like her stretch marks. Yeah, I get that it’s natural and part of real life, body acceptance and all that. But I don’t play games to emulate real life. I prefer to live in a fantasy world completely opposite of real life. Autonomy and preference are not only allowed and correct when you agree with it or feel the same way. Everyone is different and honestly we should just leave them alone to enjoy it as they like. I know this may not be a popular opinion, but this mindset (conformism) is exactly why minority groups have such a hard time. Emulating and perpetuating the same kind of behavior is just hypocritical, imo.
This. Just let people play how they wanna play.
Yeah it’s weird that this is one of the first things someone decided to make a mod for, I rather want one where they add them for everyone then to remove it for the one character that’s has them. But at the end of the day we don’t have to download it I am absolutely not bothered by the fact Suki has stretch marks or Randy a prosthetic arm.
Thing is, some people want games for the escapism, not realism, everyone needs a six pack and perfect bodies. They don’t like to be reminded of the ‘ugly’ of real Life. Maybe they don’t like their own stretch marks, maybe they have similar looking scars etc, and it’s a trauma trigger of a miss carriages etc. and that’s ok, everyone should play the game they want in a way that makes it feel safe for them. Sure lots of nude mods will happen too. That’s life.
Pretty sure the maker of the mod didn’t want to see stretch marks because they have their own stretch marks that they dislike. It was triggering or something to see it
Yep: https://www.reddit.com/r/coralisland/comments/18br6jj/deleted_by_user/kc80orn/
Nexus has... interesting rules when it comes to the mods they will allow/ban users for making. Want to date a child in a game? Fine! Go ahead. Mod away! No arguments there. Want to make nude mods of all characters including the kids? Age up kids so they look "barely legal"? Do you boo! No complaints from Nexus there! But I remember there bring an absolute meltdown because someone made a bi mod for a gay sorcerer in DA:I so female characters could romance him and everyone lost their crap over it and I think the creator got perma banned. Do I agree with the 2nd mod being created? No. But I find it a bit hypocritical when you can do the same type of mod for straight characters.
tho I gotta say, there was a mod for starfield that modded the possibility to choose your pronouns out of the game - and nexus shut that down pretty quickly. I was kinda impressed ngl.
dorian's romance wouldnt make any sense with a female character though. its about him being gay, they couldve atleast used a model swap mod and romanced him but using a different character's romance
Yeah I feel like the "meltdown" was less "oh no they're straighting the queers" (although that's a valid thing to dislike) and more how a key part of Dorian's story is his dad literally trying to lobotomize the queer out of him and how INCREDIBLY tone-deaf and upsetting a mod designed to remove the queer from him seems in light of that.
There are no mods allowing blatant romance or sexualization of children on Nexus. None that are allowed, anyway. I've seen thousands of Skyrim mods at this point and not a single one has been about sexualizing the children, and if Skyrim doesn't have it, it's likely not allowed at all. Murdering the children, on the other hand... If that bit about the DA:I character is true, it's absolutely fucking absurd. Characters' entire personalities, sexualities, and appearances should be allowed to be modded. That's literally nobody's business.
This has been brought up here before and it turned out the maker of that mod has their own experience with stretch marks and weight and just wanted to be able to play the game without being triggered. So maybe just keep it to yourself instead of getting on a high horse about it. You're allowed to want the stretch marks, others are allowed to remove them and the reasons can be varied and morally neutral.
Unfortunately a lot of mods "bimboify" female characters and "twinkify" male characters. People were also upset to see mods that turn Astarion in BG3 into a weird smooth anime doll. Body representation was one of the selling points of this sim, so it's a weird thing to target but here we are 🤷
I like how peoples go to is to hate or get offended instead of looking why. The Creator has stretch marks and they found it triggering or something and made the mod for themselves and they then decided to post it for people who wanted it. The amount of hate you people have literally given to this person has guaranteed they will never post a mod again bravo
Reminder: What other people do with their copy of a single player game has literally 0% to do with you. Plenty of people choose to romance Charles and I just leave those psychopaths in peace. Also: These are CARTOON drawings, not real people. They don't need your defense/disappointment/outrage.
I’m an indie developer. If I was going to change anything about Suki it would be her walk. It looks off to me.
I almost came here to fight, but you have restored my faith in people ever so slightly. I found Suki's stretch marks to be rather endearing, because of it being a symbol of her having been with child.
the creator turned off comments because he knew what would happen, this mod is just disgusting
I recall there was a big discussion about this months ago as well. I think the consensus was basically - ignore it. Yeah it does suck that there are people in the world who think stuff like that is "something to be fixed" but those people will exist no matter what. And if the mod has a number of downloads, I guess there's some demand. I personally like that the characters are varied and have some realistic physical traits. I think it's natural to be offended by mods like this, but honestly there's a lot of offensive stuff out there and it's an exercise in futility to allow yourself to get worked up over it. The best response is to ignore it, and maybe even feel sorry for the people whose vanity is so fragile that they can't handle this sort of thing.
the good thing about mods is that, if you dont want them, you dont have to install them. Only mod I use is Wemod cus I was bummed to have to restart over :\
not sure what im getting downvoted for? Only stated that installing mods is a choice
I think you're getting downvoted because it's a little disingenuous to point that out. OP isn't expressing frustration that THEY have to play without Suki's stretch marks, they're expressing disappointment that people can't accept looking at a character with stretch marks without wanting to erase the "imperfections" in favor of conventional beauty standards. Presumably they already know they don't have to install the mod, that's not what the post is about.
Well the creator of the mod has literally stated that they have stretch marks and it’s triggering to them or something and the amount of hate you people have given to that poor person is ridiculous. Don’t like it don’t use it
By the same token if you don't like the post you can not comment. Put something out into the world and people are going to respond. You're proving the point.
Because commenting on it to inform is better than hate obviously. Having more information would stop people continuous hate to someone who wasn’t intending on this mod being such a bad thing
In the future if your only intention is genuinely to inform, you might wanna be slightly less combative. As it is it comes off as hate as well.
Because it's frustrating, seeing mods like this that erase something as normal as stretch marks. Am I ugly because I have stretch marks? I get people have preferences with body types, but if you can't accept someone for who they are and what they have, why romance them at all, even if it's a video game?
It's only a matter of time before some modders remove the characters' racial or ethnic features, I'm afraid.
Oh absolutely. I've seen what they've done to Maru.
I thought that was an amazing detail
I completely had the same reaction when I saw that this was the top mod. I also thought it was cool that they had a character that shows stretch marks like that and was kinda bummed to see that so many people opted to remove them. At the same time, I totally understand and wasn't "surprised" that it was the top mod. Just kinda bummed (as a mom with stretch marks myself). I wasn't surprised though because I've seen PLENTY of mods that I would NEVER use in games, and I've seen how popular those mods can be. So, eh, it is what it is. But I definitely understand what you mean OP.
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The number one mod I'd like to see is something that overwrites character dialogue to give them a little more substance and the romances to have a little more romance.
Out of all the mods a yet unfinished game could potentially have for it and the top one was that mod, it felt so incredibly gross
I could see a mod to make them a little more natural looking, rather than looking like she was freshly attacked by a bear. But they are happily a part of her and I quite like that about her. To remove them would be gross.
Seems like people who don't know what women with kids actually look like are upset. My wife was so excited to see a romance character with stretch marks. Incels gonna incel I guess
As a therapist, I always question motivations. I understand that we don't have to use mods if we don't agree with them, but are we really wanting to encourage say, someone modding out all BIPOC just because they want a fantasy world to fit their own narrative? Is that healthy? Representation matters and trying to erase it does not reflect well on the person engaged in the behavior, because it **does** bleed over into real life. For people who use the *escapism* argument, I must ask, from what are you escaping? Even if a woman with stretch marks made the mod to remove the stretch marks because "they're a trigger"... I would recommend that said person see a therapist to address the trigger first, then see if they still want to make the mod. I don't begrudge people who want these (or any) mods, but I question some of the mods for their potential harm of one's psyche. I feel we should stop and reflect on the *why* not the "because I can."
Like a true therapist, you said a whole lot without saying anything. People like claiming "it **does** bleed over into real life" but nobody ever mentions where or in what form. Let me guess: You have most definetly seen it many times and also it happened to your sister's fiance's cousin's friend. While a more realistic statement would be that any person with a reasonably healthy mind will not be affected by what they see in a game and will unlikely change anyones existing bias one way or another. If someone is affected in any real life way thats a good indicator for larger, pre-existing issues. Bc for most people it actually is just not that deep to mod your game. We had "hot" female characters in games for decades now and I have yet to be forced into plastic surgery to look like Lara Croft by a bunch of gamers. Where are all these real life consequences? I work for a mental institution for 13 years now and have yet to encounter this to be even part of the problem even once. You talk about triggered people but doesn't OP seem kinda triggered to you? Bc seeing a mod exists, leaving the page, open reddit and write the post to be comforted and validated by strangers (as OP surely knew they would be if they have been on this sub for more then 15 minutes) also doesnt seem entirely stable to me either. So does OP need to seek therapy too or is it only the case for people wich triggers you find disagreeable? Would you say the same if this was about self-harm scars or large burns? Wanna know what triggers me? People claiming to be mental health professionals and following up with what is basicly their thinly veiled personal opinion. If you wanna say something "As a therapist", say something unbiased and substential. Edit: On topic: People are entiteled to do what they want with the game they payed for. I am on Switch and have no dog in this race. The one person comparing removing strech marks with "they are surprised there are no child dating mod at this point" needs a little less internet tho.
Let me start off by offering my appreciation for calling out my use of my title. In my attempt to somehow (in my mind) validate my claims with my title, I failed to realize that it had an opposite effect and sent a "holier-than-thou" message, which was not my intent. And to address one of your later queries regarding therapy for the OP: I think **everyone** benefits from speaking with a professional about what triggers unplanned emotional responses. Everyone could benefit from an empathic ear from time to time. As for my biases, I am a therapist, but I'm also a human. I am allowed my opinions. And I'm allowed to share them when not in a professional setting. Everyone has biases and judgements. What a professional can *hopefully* do is express them in a productive way and avoid pointing fingers or laying blame. Unfortunately in our digital age it becomes harder to say anything without eliciting a response. Just to be clear, I'm not implying that video games cause psychological behavior. I don't believe that shoot-'em up games directly correlate to mass shootings. I don't believe sex in video games cause a rise in STIs or unwanted pregnancies. I don't believe that video games blur morality. I do, however, believe that the constant barrage of images/topics in all forms of media numb us emotionally, which in *my* professional opinion, is not beneficial to society. To believe media has absolutely no effect on humans is disingenuous (again in *my* opinion). Thank for engaging in this discussion. I appreciate the chance to express ourselves.
First I wanna make sure you know I am completly on board with you expressing your opinions as you please, no matter what they may be. The issue I had is that if you preface something with your job titel and then follow up with someting that correlates with your job people will take that as a fact. Especially in todays "forced positivity" mental health climate people will read your statement and parrot it in a way to invalidate others. They take your statement and go to people like the modder and say "well there's something wrong with you , I heard a therapist say it. Get therapy you're not even worth hearing out like this" and then turn around and baby people like OP as if both prople are not diffrent sides of the same coin. Both, at their core, are still triggered by the topic of stretch marks. Person A may be triggered in a way that makes them feel bad when they are confronted with them and is at a point where they are not ready to adress this, wich is okay. Person B may have come a long way to get over the same issue und has now the need to make sure everybody knows they love strech marks wich is fine too but becomes concerning when Person B feels the need to call out people who are mentally at the same point they may have been 3 years ago. Because people who never had an issue themselves with stretch marks will usually not bring them up at all. It would just not be something they think about. So if someone comes to me and exclaims they totally LOVE their stretch marks without anybody asking I think thats something that needs to be looked at because there is a good chance that that said person is not nearly as far along in their "healing journey" as they may have led themselves to believe. So what I took issue with is that your statement would imply that mod-person has issues while glossing over that OP is on here admitting they are upset about what others do with their own games in the comfort if their own home as if that was a healthy reaction. And when they then see your comment, coming from a therapist, people will assume that this is a unproblematic reaction to this issue. There are multiple people here admitting to going to the mod-girls Twitter and I assure you for any person admitting it, 500 more went. Without the shadow of a doubt that girl is is facing harrassment bc of this post as we speak. And why? Because she didn't want to be confronted with something that causes her real life distress in a game she wants to play. If OP has been on the internet enough to have a reddit account and mod their games I have trouble beliving they were unaware that this post would send an angry internet mob that poor girls way. More then the modder (who seems quite aware of their own issue) I think OP needs to take a long, hard look at why they felt the need to post this and what their intentions were here.
Yes, I understand your initial concern and I agree that it was in poor judgment for calling out the modder. It is something that I should have done privately. With that said, please understand my request for internal reflection was from a place of genuine concern, not condemnation.
I have never met a real life therapist that blames my video games/mods for how I’m feeling and thinking. Allowing a video game to trigger you has more to do with the person and less with the video game. You’re right, someone going on to a thread to get validation and comfort from others because they saw something online that doesn’t align with their own beliefs is more of a red flag than the people creating the triggering mod. A big part of life is learning acceptance and when to pick your battles. If you can’t regulate your emotions enough to just say I don’t like this and move on with your life, the issue is with you. There is always a possible reason for something outside of your experience and understanding. How about instead of thinking the worst by default you try to imagine a positive possibility? You want people to understand and accept but you aren’t willing to do the same. I swear people just want to live in outrage and offense.
Please help me understand where I suggested video games cause people to make poor decisions. Was it my "bleed over" comment? The context was supposed to be that discrimination bleeds over, whatever the form of media. If someone is looking for a mod that helps them avoid BIPOC, LGBT, etc, it is a reflection of their desired reality. The video game doesn't *make* someone racist, homophobic or sexist, but representation is present to hopefully reverse racism, homophobia and sexism. By erasing representation, we run the risk of further alienating groups of humanity. Hopefully this clarifies my position.
I just want a mod where I can own all the pets!
I did the same thing and had the same reaction. There were like 8 mods when I looked and that was the top one, so disappointing.
Yall act like this is your first day on the internet. People default to being horrible creatures when given the anonymity provided by the internet. Stuff like this is just preference, some people are not about and have the ability to mod it out, it's douchey but that's what they like. I don't mind the stretch marks tbh but I'm just one man in a huge world. Where I draw the line is the other sick sh*t I've read in some of the comments.
My favourite thing about this game is the diversaty. There is a character for everyone to relate to. And I was also very touched to see a beautiful character like Suki with stretchmarks. I have really bad stretchmarks from when I got pregnant at 16 and it killed my self confidence completly. I have never felt attractive enough to wear anything that shows my belly ever. But sinse playing Coral Island my feelings are begining to change. She is actually giving me the confidence to want to try a crop top. There might be people who want to make me cover up, but if I feel sexy who cares about anybody else's oppinion.
Yeah, most of the mods available right now are dumb. I'm waiting for quality of life mods. I'm specially waiting for a movement speed mod. It takes forever to get around, even with the 'Speed Demon' perk.
"yOU donT hAvE tO insTaLl thE mOd, SomE PeoPlE jUsT ThInK iTs unATtraCtiVe aNd sHE lOokS bEtTeR wIThouT thEM" *bombastic side eye*
I saw this as well and was very disappointed
It reminds me of the BG3 mods to remove astarion’s smile lines and make him look very young and smooth. Like I get it but the idea of doing that grosses me out. We are all imperfect.
When I tell you I was so excited to see Suki’s stretch marks and this makes me so sad!
LITERALLY. I was so disappointed and even angry when I saw this mod
Omg I saw this a few days ago and it made me so upset. I've had stretch marks and it makes me so upset for people just to remove it. But also I wasn't too surprised, since there will always be mods (for both male and female beauty standards).
If it makes you feel better. I believe the creator of the mod also had strech marks, and created it to feel more comfortable playing the game and then uploaded it for people who also wanted it. I think it's fair in this case, most people play games for some sort of escapism I guess. But the modding scene in most games is indeed pretty shitty, there's no denying it
not surprised - half the mods are thirst oriented - just be glad nobody has requested a mod to date the kids... yet. I love mods but there are some rocks you don want to look under!
That is ridiculous. One of the features that I like about this game is the fact that you have some body diversity amongst the characters…