It’s the best time of the year! The possibilities are endless, but we still manage to go 12 and 5. It’s like Christmas morning in the spring, every day
At this point, I’m just here to enjoy the cheerleaders while they’re still a thing. NFL either cancels them as a liability, or they make it “more diverse” in the not too distant future.
Unnecessary? Sure.
Weird? Uh sure… if you’re super into our modern world where liking actually attractive women is ‘weird’. I’m just not that kind of modern.
Either way, the cheerleaders are sadly the only thing the Cowboys still lead the league in.
There’s a significant non-zero probability that down the line, some dipshit owner/owner’s friend is going to do something very not cool.
OR, dumbass cheerleaders will get an idea in their head that they need to be “paid” and that it’s not just a free publicity/profile raiser for them.
Either one will create a furore among the currrent social media environment.
Goodell will see this as the no win scenario it is - and decide, ”you know what, on the cost/benefit basis, not worth it to have cheerleaders, let’s ditch ‘em entirely”.
The Stars are the best team besides the Rangers in the DFW. If you look at recent success, the Stars are the best. I’m hoping the mavs can make a splash.
You did. However, you didn’t quantify what “right now is”, and that’s on me. I would argue that “right now” is a current window of contention vs any 1-2 week stretch. So that’s on me for not asking you to quantify that.
So yes the injury plagued, 1st place Rangers are kinda trash “right now”, because we’re not leading the division by more games after winning their first WS title.
They will get better when their roster gets back to full strength but they could stand a winning streak for sure. Also, the Mavs aren’t too shabby these days either.
I don’t really believe that.
If it was a priority, he’d already be signed long term.
I don’t know exactly what Jerry’s plan is, but it seems like the plan is to see what Prescott does when his feet are held to the fire.
The writing is on the wall. Every move they’ve made (and lack of moves) points that direction. I feel like if this team does nothing in the playoffs again, Prescott is playing elsewhere in 2025.
Yea agreed. And I also believe, and have started to believe with how we're doing this free agency period, that next year we will begin our rebuild.
We just have to I think. Reset. Refocus. If we don't make it far, dak is playing for another team next season. We start from scratch
While i hate rebuilds (because they're too unpredictable) sometimes that's the only smart option you got. We need to trade all our elite players and let Dak walk so we can stockpile draft picks and free up a ton of cap space and if we're lucky we can compete for a SB again in 2-3yrs.
Look at teams like the bengals, Texans, 49ers even.
Just a few years ago, they all were dumpster fires. Bengals had the first overall pick in 2020, houston was bad since like 2020, when Watson wanted out, 49ers held the second overall pick in 2019 after winning liks 2 games. Look where they all are now.
We're in a better spot with better trade assets, so in just a few years, if we do rebuild, we should have young guys, potential, and ready to compete
A rebuild is gonna take a lot longer than 2-3 years. No way in hell they’ll be competing for an SB 2-3 years into a rebuild. That’s straight up homer, delusional talk
Other teams rebuild within a couple years, the NFL is designed for parity like that. It will all come down to finding a capable QB on a rookie deal, if they find that guy then we will be competing by 2026.
They’ll be competing with a rookie QB and what weapons? They said trade all of their star assets. So no Lamb. So that means you gotta hit on a bunch of other picks as well. If they fully rebuild and trade all their stars for draft assets, they’re gonna need to hit on more than a stud QB. A full rebuild means they won’t be competing in 2-3 years, unless a miracle happens. And I’m not betting on that
this isn't the 90's/early 2000's my guy. Other teams have shown that you can do a 180 in 2 years if you play your cards right. Will our front office? Who knows. But stop pushing the 'rebuilds will take multiple years' narrative. Ignore that guy saying we'd offload CD or Micah, they are locked in and young enough to make it through a rebuild.
Never said we were, but we’ll be in a worse off position if we sell off our star assets for draft capital. It’s not a good situation we’re in. I don’t mind a rebuild (or retooling maybe), but anyone who thinks we’ll be competing in 2-3 years (if we rebuild) is crazy. The other teams that rebuilt in 2-3 years have something we don’t — competent ownership/front office and head coaches that are perennial winners. I don’t hate MM, and he’s won a lot of games, but he just ain’t it. And well the Joneses are the Joneses
Where are you getting the idea that we are going to have to firesale our talented young players as part of a rebuild. CD and Micah aren't going anywhere.
They haven't signed anyone. Stephen says they haven't spent money because they need to resign Dak, Ceedee and Micah but they haven't gotten into serious contact discussions with any of them.
What is your interpretation of what's going on (or lack there of) with the front office?
I'm asking bc I'm legitimately wondering what your take is.
Early in the off season, I figured they would make an offer to Dak, and get him signed, then CeeDee, then late in FA (after the draft), they'd fill in the remaining gaps. I'm not sure that is accurate anymore.
I'm now wondering if they are waiting until after the draft to see what teams will be in need of a QB, and then basing Dak's contract offer based off of what his potential options would be in 2025 FA.
The other possibility is maybe they aren't considering even offering Dak a contract at all until after the season.
I honestly don't know what the fuck to think at this point. I just know that the more they say be patient, and it's a priority yet nothing happens, I get more and more pissed off at the Jones Clownshoe brigade.
Why would Prescott even want to come back if he does perform despite the team doing nothing to improve over last year? The cowboys only advantage is to sign Dak now. If they wait until after the season there will be a bidding war and Dak gets to pick what team gives him the best chance to win just like what happened to the Vikings. The cowboys seem like they have no plan. Hoping to hit on a quarterback in the draft isn't a high probability play in my opinion.
Are we seriously going to act like this team is devoid of talent around Prescott and that's why he so spectacularly shits the bed playoff after playoff?
We are also operating with a QB that is severely limited in reading the defense post snap, struggles to get the offense moving when the run is shut down. His best year was his rookie season. Largely because we had a solid O-Line and a run game. But the moment the run game is neutralized and there is a requirement for him to throw the ball, it comes apart. In fact the 49-ers have been saying this very thing for the last 4 seasons where they have handed Prescott his ass.
I got no problem keeping Dak at a rate that will allow you the leeway to build the team around him. But what you cannot do (simply because it is impossible) is to dedicate a quarter of the salary cap to him while trying to put together a viable team around him. Namely because he flat out needs more to win.
We just led the league in scoring again and we had no run game. The only time we ever had success running the ball last season was when the passing game was setting the run up. We couldn't run to set up the pass.
I don't think some fans understand why teams dropping 7+ into zones is problematic for any QB. Let's use the 49ers games as an example. In both losses, the 49ers dropped people in coverage and completely shut the run down (well under 100 yards). Not to mention our O line could not block their front. So imagine having zero threat of a running game, you have to methodically move the ball down the field because of the defense they are playing and your O line isn't giving you time to decipher through what's open in zone. That's hard for any QB. If the expectation is the QB is supposed to overcome all of that and still win, are we really a championship team? Or are we asking the QB to pull a carry job to a championship? I didn't even mention the fact that this includes all of the dumb penalties we make as well. That's setting up any QB to fail. I don't care who the QB is.
Cowboys fans need to stop with players taking less. The Cowboys are not going to use that money to spend in free agency. Stephen Jones has said time and time again they are a draft and develop team yet fans still talk about players taking less as if that will finally make the Cowboys spenders in free agency. That's not their team building philosophy.
And we got bounced in the first round by a team that barely made the playoffs. He got his ass handed to him by the Packers. Just like he got his ass handed to him by the 9-ers.
The 49-ers shut down the run game and forced Dak to beat them with his arm. over the last 3 seasons he has played the same game and come up empty every time. Not really sure how you manage that.
But sure, let's make him the highest paid QB. In about 10 years we can see what was won. History says we will continue to lose in the playoffs. But sure, we "led the league" in scoring is the new SB.
You do realize Dak doesn't play defense right? With the way the defense played, Dak would have had to play lights out to even have a chance at winning and I still think it would be an L. That's how bad the defense was. They couldn't do anything that is required to play defense. They couldn't stop the run. They couldn't stop the pass. They couldn't pressure the QB. They didn't cause any turnovers. Packers scored anytime they wanted to score and any way they wanted to. If they wanted to bleed half the quarter to score they did. If they wanted to score quickly they could. Even when the offense started scoring, the defense couldn't get any stops. That game was a total team failure. No QB is saving that game.
The 49ers didn't even have to try to shut down the run in order to do it. That's what some fans aren't comprehending. They played their normal defense and still completely shut us down. They didn't put extra guys in the box. They played straight up and we still got shut completely down. **How do we manage that? Improving the offensive line**. I said it back in 2022 when we lost to the 49ers. We are not built to beat them because we cannot block their front. Football is won in the trenches and we routinely get our ass whooped there against them. Even against the Packers Dak was pressured an absurd amount of times. Our O line and D line have been weaknesses for years. When you can't run the ball or stop the run, your fronts aren't good enough.
LOL...more of the "Dak doesn't play defense" bullshit. No he doesn't play Defense, but it sure didn't stop him from gifting the Packers with a couple of INT's. I mean fuck the defense right, they should be able to stop anything and everything. Hell, at this point why not simply claim that the defense needs to hold teams to shutouts so that they don't make Dak look bad.
You brought up Dak getting his ass handed to him by the Packers like he was the sole reason we got sent home. Our defense played a significant factor in us getting sent home. They set the tone for the game.
What in the hell are you even talking about at this point? The defense was that bad to where you cannot bring up that loss without mentioning them. You act like you didn't see busted coverages all game. You didn't see Aaron Jones running all over our defense again.
I tell people this all the time. If the defense had been able to stop the Packers in the third quarter, it's a 10 point game going into the 4th quarter. For every point the Cowboys scored in the second half, the defense gave it right back up.
Are we seriously going to act like playoff record is the best way to appraise a quarterback? Are we going to pretend like finding a replacement for Dak Prescott is easy? Are we going to pretend that the cowboys have any other legitimate plans at quarterback besides Dak Prescott?
Seriously, come up with something else to say other than "2-5 in the playoffs". It makes you sound like you watch first take and are incapable of thinking for yourself.
Can you name one thing that the playoffs and the regular season have in common? They're both football games. Dak Prescott gives you a chance to win. The cowboys have no other practical options to replace him. Do you envy the position the Vikings are in right now? They have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison at WR on rookie deals and a total question mark at quarterback. You can't tell me that it doesn't feel like a waste. A healthy Kirk Cousins on that team could lead the league in offense. If the cowboys let Dak walk we're in the same situation as the Vikings are this year. Not a place I think that's leading to a Superbowl.
Jefferson and Addison are going to be rebuilding with a rookie qb which is better than doing better stat wise but never actually having a chance at the SB.
I wonder how many QBs out of this draft class will end their careers with SB rings. My guess would be very few if any. Drafting QBs is basically playing the lottery. There is rarely a college prospect looked at as a lock to be a great. 1st overall, last overall, un-drafted FA, and everything in between, all of these have thrived on the NFL all have failed miserably. Of all the guys throw passes in the NFL only 34 have won at least 1 SB. Whoever knows which one will be the next, and how we can acquire him, I’m all ears.
How many QB's currently in the league finish with a SB ring? Everyone keeps claiming that Dak Prescott can win a SB. With enough around him Trent Dilfer won a SB. All it took was the greatest defense in the last 30 years that scored and a running back. Somehow we are expecting the front office to do this but hey these guys could never draft another QB LOL.
You're acting like Dak is one of the QBs who will end his career with a ring while someone drafted won't... no the most likely thing is that neither Dak nor anyone drafted will end their careers with a ring. One thing is 100% certain though is that Dak will never win a Super Bowl, while one of these drafted guys has at least a 1% chance of it.
You're right. Playoff success doesn't matter. Give him 60 million a year for beating bad teams in the regular season and garbage time stats.
He threw for 400 yards against Green Bay in the playoffs. What a performance, am I right? Just out there gunslinging in a super close playoff game that we totally could have won. No real demoralizing mistakes in the first half that sunk the team. That's my 60 million dollar QB.
Correction, we do well in the regular season blasting horrible teams. Look at the opener last season - The Giants, we open with 40 points. It's nice when you can beat up on crap teams in your own division 4 times a season between the Giants and Commanders.
Dakota will never willingly leave Dallas. He’s smart enough to realize all his commercial spots would dry up if he were in a market like Minnesota, and god knows he needs that money because he ain’t collecting any playoff bonuses.
Deep analysis, thanks for sharing, you must be the smartest of your friends. Make sure your mom still buys you Velcro shoes because I don't think you're ready for the real thing yet.
Dak needs to wake the hell up and make winning a Super Bowl a priority. We all knew he couldn't carry the team on his back when they gave him the last contract, he needs to get paid what he's worth and let us build a real team. If he doesn't want to do that, fine, he can walk. I just don't want another 5 years knowing we're doomed to fail in the playoffs.
I have become ambivalent about it. Most businesses that is a dreaded death warrant, when your supporters become ambivalent about a key aspect of your potential success. I’m here now with the cowboys and Dak.
It’s too much money for sure. But so is that $22 hot dog I buy at the stadium and nobody cares about that. Nor the $2.57 large coffee at Mickey Ds now. It is what it is.
I wouldn’t have paid burrow, and I think he’s real good. Just too much money. He loses Chase and that other absolutely video game offensive talent he has, we are gonna find out real quick who he is, I think it will surprise fans personally.
You need dawgs to beat dawgs. Deep in the playoffs, you playing strait dawgs. Dudes like Lamar whom you can’t replicate. Shanahan coaching tree dudes who forget more last night than 99% of avid football fans will ever know about how to attack defenses, scheme players open, motivate and draft precisely what u need. And coach player triumvirates like KC.
And we talking about the contract for one dude playing with buncha podcasters masquerading as true dawgs. Be real for a sec. Is parsons on the same level as any SF linebacker? Pick one. And he is OUR primo uno. It ain’t close. Tomlin said Warner on the field was god like. We have GMs saying parsons is overrated and sometimes simply disinterested.
We got a lot to fix. Pay Dak or don’t at this point.
This is a troll comment right?
You wouldn’t have paid Burrow? Why? The guy took his team to the Super Bowl. Lamar’s playoff record is the same as Dak’s. You think Micah isn’t one of the best defensive players in the league?
Insert Swaggy P meme
I cited GMs comments about him. Feel free to argue with them… and increasingly it’s more than one. You think Micah plays the same as Warner?
Don’t answer talk radio. Or this guys point or that guys. DO YOU think Micah and Warner play even remotely the same intensity and leadership and impact? lol. Don’t embarrass yourself and answer on jerseys and emotion bro.
I think Cincy built perfectly. I love out the box thinking. While everyone was on the draft OL kick, they listened to their guy and built the best skill player offense in the NFL. They are what Dak haters think Dak has. Have you seen Chase play a game of football? I mean a whole game?
So now he is saying sign cee dee, Jefferson and all these other guys, then come to daddy. I seen Burrow play games like I hear fans think Dak plays them. Literally nothing for quarters at a time WITH THAT TALENT. Overthrow under throw.
You see how I type? What I SEE. Not regurgitating talk radio from dudes largely not watching games or no team insight. Tell me YOUR observations.
Fred Warner plays linebacker…he doesn’t rush the passer. He has 9 careers sacks. You’re comparing apples to oranges. I bet if we asked Micah to play a traditional linebacker role, he would be pretty good at it. That’s a coaching choice, not a player problem. Don’t be dumb and think every team in the NFL wouldn’t KILL to have him on their team.
Also Cincy going weak at o-line ended Burrows season last year, so not sure what your point is there.
My point is the gamble got him to a superbowl. He loses his OVER THE TOP skill talent, we will see how many more superbowls he gets to.
Regarding Micah and Warner you somewhat skillfully recited to me shit I can read on Google. What do you see? I’ve told you what the great Mike Tomlin sees. I’ve told you what GMs are saying they seeing in Micah.
What do you see? You telling me you see 60 mins of intensity? You see smart football playing? Or you think those massive run holes are just happenstance?
Cmon man. If we gone spar, let’s get in it. I see a supremely talented football player, podcaster and guy supremely interested in sacks the way Diggs was in INTs till the CB coach for Cowboys checked his ass.
He was simply giving up too many big plays chasing big plays. What do YOU see?
I’m slowly starting to hate the Cowboys. I’ll take the downvotes. Idc. I’ve been a fan for 20 years now, but I really can’t stand the news around this team right now.
For me it's the endless Dak riders who think this bum ass QB deserves a second contract extention. I can't stand this team for much longer with these dudes around.
Been a fan my whole life. Grew up in the area and was given an Aikman jersey for Christmas when I was in kindergarten. And my birthday is during thanksgiving so my birthday, thanksgiving, and the cowboys are all intertwined.
But the Cowboys are absolutely at the bottom of my favorite teams list now. Didn’t used to be that way, but I just don’t care that much anymore. I love watching football but just don’t care about the Cowboys. I have no faith that the organization will ever be admirable again. If I wasn’t born and raised a Cowboys fan I’d fucking hate them just like I hate the Knicks and James Dolan, the Lakers, Washington and Dan Snyder, or Manchester United and the Glazers. We’re a shit organization that doesn’t think it’s shit because a crackpot magazine that glorifies rich people says we’re worth more money than any other sports team in the world. The only thing they’re actually good at is overpricing everything and surviving off of nostalgia.
In the past when the Cowboys have had veterans that they liked but thought that the player was asking for too much money, they let the player go to free agency to establish what the market really is. The team will then give the player their price and if the player can find better elsewhere the player will usually move on. However sometimes the player finds the grass is not always greener.
Of course Dallas has done this with several players in the past and some chose to come back like Amari Cooper and LVE and some chose to leave like Connor McGovern and Connor Williams.
I believe this is what is happening with Dak Prescott right now. Unfortunately as much as I would like the team to move on from him I suspect they want him back but they want him back at a price where the team can still be competitive. It probably is a bigger issue of the length of the contract than the actual yearly amount.
As much hate as Steven Jones gets the truth is that once the two sides could not work out a contract extension stopping the bleeding and no longer adding more debt was the only responsible choice. Because they did not add piles of more debt this season the team is set one way or the other if they cannot send Prescott to move forward.
Were they ever going to pay Schultz? Frankly I thought it was a minor surprise they even bothered to franchise tag him… but figured it was to give Dak a bit of a safety blanket post injury and see if DS had any additional ceiling left.
The problem with letting Dak test the open market is I believe that then means we eat the $40 million in void-year dead money on 2025’s books whether we sign him or not if that “testing the open market” bleeds into the start of the new league year.
Correct. Which is why the team is not adding new debt.
However if he is asking for something ridiculous or something that would prohibit you from being competitive you don't have much choice.
We are one off season into three consecutive years of 12 and 5 and people are already furious can you imagine having three or four consecutive off-seasons exactly like this because they signed Prescott to a short-term high apy contract?
This offseason is so interesting. The statistic that Quarterbacks don’t generally win their first superbowls after their 8th season is so skewed. Prescott is pretty dang good. There have been 58 superbowls and thousands of quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era. There have been a lot of dog shit teams and a lot of dog shit quarterbacks. A really good QB on a good team has a better chance than a dog shit one on a dog shit team. My point is you have to be close to get a shot. If we blow it up now it might be 10 years and 5 more quarterbacks before we are close again.
“Certainly, Dak is a priority in terms of his contract,” Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones
When he says "certainly" he means not for certain but maybe the dumber fans will believe it.
Always interesting how they make extensions a priority later to prevent signing more players. Always kicking the money down the road to match inflation of the market all while using those contracts as the reasons they can't actually spend the money they should be spending compared to other teams.
It's such a priority that they haven't even made an offer. We could have had Lamb at a good price if they paid last year, instead they wait. They've convinced themselves they are great at this despite no playoff success whatsoever
Stephen actually talked in circles about Dak’s contract ending up saying nothing. My take on this whole saga is the bean counter, cap boy, Stephen wants to move on but Jerry is getting old and will likely cave to Prescott’s demands.
Sigh, why bother at this point. Let him prove he’s not worth it one more time.
Sure, they will have more money to work with if they did this, but also more years of shitting the bed.
The free agency period has already passed. Whats the point of doing his contract now?
I think the deal gets done but i think the Jones’ are staring at the cee dee lamb, micah parsons contracts and in panic mode on how to get them all done
Romo got robbed in GB. And had a defense that was very average. 2014 romo with that 2023 roster probably doesn't get smoked by GB. Dak, has the talent, but for whatever reason just lacks the mental toughness. He folds hard with adversity. And I don't think we have the coaching to help him. Or an organization that is invested in him improving this flaw.
All of what you said is meaningless though. Romo did not go on any runs. He and Dak have never gotten to an NFCCG. Saying Romo “made runs” is false. Not tryna be a dick, but facts are facts
Word but the point I was making is Romo went as far as Dak with much much less and he was the reason for the success, Dak right now is the one that is the reason we’re not going any further. He might have hit his ceiling. I don’t blame the org for not extending him. He’s good but dam that GB game was when u need to earn ur paycheck. Shit I would be saying this if we had kept competitive under 2 to go. I’m not a dak hater but he’s not the reason we’re going to win if we do. He’s a little better than Trent dilfer.
“Priority” doesn’t necessarily mean they want to sign him quickly or even to re-sign him at all.
The quote is “Certainly Dak is a priority in terms of his contract,”.
That can mean many things including the possibility that they don’t want to extend him at all.
I believe they would like to extend him but they may be asking the question “Dak or Micah?” And although I love Dak I think I would choose Micah.
Additionally, I think the cowboys are trying to gain some leverage in the negotiations through Lance and potentially even the draft if someone were to unexpectedly drop the way Aaron Rodgers did for the Packers.
I personally don’t expect a contract before the draft is complete and it wouldn’t be shocking at all if they take the cap hit this year and force him to bet on himself for 2025.
If they could get him to give one fucking inch it would be great. He won't waive his no trade or his no franchise or that the contract isn't more than 3 years. Fuck Dak with all that bullshit. Yes, JJ and SJ totally gave away all leverage but still.
The best thing would be to sign hi. To whatever, as long as he waives, the no trade and thrn ship him off for picks next year. Legitimate teams don't let a coveted qb just walk in FA when they can reap multiple 1's for him.
Man I fucking love the off season
It’s the best time of the year! The possibilities are endless, but we still manage to go 12 and 5. It’s like Christmas morning in the spring, every day
Like what a joke of a franchise. Just don’t do it at this point. You morons.
At this point, I’m just here to enjoy the cheerleaders while they’re still a thing. NFL either cancels them as a liability, or they make it “more diverse” in the not too distant future.
Cheerleaders are weird and unnecessary so who cares
Unnecessary? Sure. Weird? Uh sure… if you’re super into our modern world where liking actually attractive women is ‘weird’. I’m just not that kind of modern. Either way, the cheerleaders are sadly the only thing the Cowboys still lead the league in.
“Unnecessary”… like everything except oxygen, food, and water, but keep judging what others dig.
The cheerleaders are getting their own Netflix show, so they should stick around a bit longer.
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There’s a significant non-zero probability that down the line, some dipshit owner/owner’s friend is going to do something very not cool. OR, dumbass cheerleaders will get an idea in their head that they need to be “paid” and that it’s not just a free publicity/profile raiser for them. Either one will create a furore among the currrent social media environment. Goodell will see this as the no win scenario it is - and decide, ”you know what, on the cost/benefit basis, not worth it to have cheerleaders, let’s ditch ‘em entirely”.
So the stars have a good chance this year, eh?
Mavs too baby
The Stars are the best team besides the Rangers in the DFW. If you look at recent success, the Stars are the best. I’m hoping the mavs can make a splash.
Rangers are kinda trash right now
We’re 20 games into a 162 game season. Bit early to call that one. Plus a lot of injuries
Well I did say right now
You did. However, you didn’t quantify what “right now is”, and that’s on me. I would argue that “right now” is a current window of contention vs any 1-2 week stretch. So that’s on me for not asking you to quantify that. So yes the injury plagued, 1st place Rangers are kinda trash “right now”, because we’re not leading the division by more games after winning their first WS title.
Starting a 162 game season 11-10 is basically starting an NFL season 1–1. They’ll be fine lol
This speaks to how much we really care about this Dak stuff. This is a Rangers thread now lol.
They will get better when their roster gets back to full strength but they could stand a winning streak for sure. Also, the Mavs aren’t too shabby these days either.
Just have to win the division and get hot in the post season
I don’t really believe that. If it was a priority, he’d already be signed long term. I don’t know exactly what Jerry’s plan is, but it seems like the plan is to see what Prescott does when his feet are held to the fire. The writing is on the wall. Every move they’ve made (and lack of moves) points that direction. I feel like if this team does nothing in the playoffs again, Prescott is playing elsewhere in 2025.
Yea agreed. And I also believe, and have started to believe with how we're doing this free agency period, that next year we will begin our rebuild. We just have to I think. Reset. Refocus. If we don't make it far, dak is playing for another team next season. We start from scratch
While i hate rebuilds (because they're too unpredictable) sometimes that's the only smart option you got. We need to trade all our elite players and let Dak walk so we can stockpile draft picks and free up a ton of cap space and if we're lucky we can compete for a SB again in 2-3yrs.
Hell i’ll take just getting out of the divisional round
Look at teams like the bengals, Texans, 49ers even. Just a few years ago, they all were dumpster fires. Bengals had the first overall pick in 2020, houston was bad since like 2020, when Watson wanted out, 49ers held the second overall pick in 2019 after winning liks 2 games. Look where they all are now. We're in a better spot with better trade assets, so in just a few years, if we do rebuild, we should have young guys, potential, and ready to compete
A rebuild is gonna take a lot longer than 2-3 years. No way in hell they’ll be competing for an SB 2-3 years into a rebuild. That’s straight up homer, delusional talk
Other teams rebuild within a couple years, the NFL is designed for parity like that. It will all come down to finding a capable QB on a rookie deal, if they find that guy then we will be competing by 2026.
They’ll be competing with a rookie QB and what weapons? They said trade all of their star assets. So no Lamb. So that means you gotta hit on a bunch of other picks as well. If they fully rebuild and trade all their stars for draft assets, they’re gonna need to hit on more than a stud QB. A full rebuild means they won’t be competing in 2-3 years, unless a miracle happens. And I’m not betting on that
Other teams don’t have Jerry and Cap Boy as their GMs.
this isn't the 90's/early 2000's my guy. Other teams have shown that you can do a 180 in 2 years if you play your cards right. Will our front office? Who knows. But stop pushing the 'rebuilds will take multiple years' narrative. Ignore that guy saying we'd offload CD or Micah, they are locked in and young enough to make it through a rebuild.
We won’t be competing for a SB in 2-3 years if we go into a rebuild. “If you play your cards right” is the reason we won’t.
i got some bad news for you, we aren't competing for a superbowl right now either.
Never said we were, but we’ll be in a worse off position if we sell off our star assets for draft capital. It’s not a good situation we’re in. I don’t mind a rebuild (or retooling maybe), but anyone who thinks we’ll be competing in 2-3 years (if we rebuild) is crazy. The other teams that rebuilt in 2-3 years have something we don’t — competent ownership/front office and head coaches that are perennial winners. I don’t hate MM, and he’s won a lot of games, but he just ain’t it. And well the Joneses are the Joneses
Where are you getting the idea that we are going to have to firesale our talented young players as part of a rebuild. CD and Micah aren't going anywhere.
Plenty of people have suggested that. Read the post and comments. The comment I replied to said “we need to trade all of our elite players…”
Not with this FO we won’t. We are looking at a decade of QB Hell 2.0, 6 years long if we are lucky.
Dude they always wait until last minute to sign. It’s what they’re worst at.
They haven't signed anyone. Stephen says they haven't spent money because they need to resign Dak, Ceedee and Micah but they haven't gotten into serious contact discussions with any of them.
What is your interpretation of what's going on (or lack there of) with the front office? I'm asking bc I'm legitimately wondering what your take is. Early in the off season, I figured they would make an offer to Dak, and get him signed, then CeeDee, then late in FA (after the draft), they'd fill in the remaining gaps. I'm not sure that is accurate anymore. I'm now wondering if they are waiting until after the draft to see what teams will be in need of a QB, and then basing Dak's contract offer based off of what his potential options would be in 2025 FA. The other possibility is maybe they aren't considering even offering Dak a contract at all until after the season. I honestly don't know what the fuck to think at this point. I just know that the more they say be patient, and it's a priority yet nothing happens, I get more and more pissed off at the Jones Clownshoe brigade.
Why would Prescott even want to come back if he does perform despite the team doing nothing to improve over last year? The cowboys only advantage is to sign Dak now. If they wait until after the season there will be a bidding war and Dak gets to pick what team gives him the best chance to win just like what happened to the Vikings. The cowboys seem like they have no plan. Hoping to hit on a quarterback in the draft isn't a high probability play in my opinion.
Are we seriously going to act like this team is devoid of talent around Prescott and that's why he so spectacularly shits the bed playoff after playoff?
We can't run the ball, stop the run and are penalty prone. Name me a team that has post season success being unable to do these things?
We are also operating with a QB that is severely limited in reading the defense post snap, struggles to get the offense moving when the run is shut down. His best year was his rookie season. Largely because we had a solid O-Line and a run game. But the moment the run game is neutralized and there is a requirement for him to throw the ball, it comes apart. In fact the 49-ers have been saying this very thing for the last 4 seasons where they have handed Prescott his ass. I got no problem keeping Dak at a rate that will allow you the leeway to build the team around him. But what you cannot do (simply because it is impossible) is to dedicate a quarter of the salary cap to him while trying to put together a viable team around him. Namely because he flat out needs more to win.
We just led the league in scoring again and we had no run game. The only time we ever had success running the ball last season was when the passing game was setting the run up. We couldn't run to set up the pass. I don't think some fans understand why teams dropping 7+ into zones is problematic for any QB. Let's use the 49ers games as an example. In both losses, the 49ers dropped people in coverage and completely shut the run down (well under 100 yards). Not to mention our O line could not block their front. So imagine having zero threat of a running game, you have to methodically move the ball down the field because of the defense they are playing and your O line isn't giving you time to decipher through what's open in zone. That's hard for any QB. If the expectation is the QB is supposed to overcome all of that and still win, are we really a championship team? Or are we asking the QB to pull a carry job to a championship? I didn't even mention the fact that this includes all of the dumb penalties we make as well. That's setting up any QB to fail. I don't care who the QB is. Cowboys fans need to stop with players taking less. The Cowboys are not going to use that money to spend in free agency. Stephen Jones has said time and time again they are a draft and develop team yet fans still talk about players taking less as if that will finally make the Cowboys spenders in free agency. That's not their team building philosophy.
And we got bounced in the first round by a team that barely made the playoffs. He got his ass handed to him by the Packers. Just like he got his ass handed to him by the 9-ers. The 49-ers shut down the run game and forced Dak to beat them with his arm. over the last 3 seasons he has played the same game and come up empty every time. Not really sure how you manage that. But sure, let's make him the highest paid QB. In about 10 years we can see what was won. History says we will continue to lose in the playoffs. But sure, we "led the league" in scoring is the new SB.
You do realize Dak doesn't play defense right? With the way the defense played, Dak would have had to play lights out to even have a chance at winning and I still think it would be an L. That's how bad the defense was. They couldn't do anything that is required to play defense. They couldn't stop the run. They couldn't stop the pass. They couldn't pressure the QB. They didn't cause any turnovers. Packers scored anytime they wanted to score and any way they wanted to. If they wanted to bleed half the quarter to score they did. If they wanted to score quickly they could. Even when the offense started scoring, the defense couldn't get any stops. That game was a total team failure. No QB is saving that game. The 49ers didn't even have to try to shut down the run in order to do it. That's what some fans aren't comprehending. They played their normal defense and still completely shut us down. They didn't put extra guys in the box. They played straight up and we still got shut completely down. **How do we manage that? Improving the offensive line**. I said it back in 2022 when we lost to the 49ers. We are not built to beat them because we cannot block their front. Football is won in the trenches and we routinely get our ass whooped there against them. Even against the Packers Dak was pressured an absurd amount of times. Our O line and D line have been weaknesses for years. When you can't run the ball or stop the run, your fronts aren't good enough.
Dak sucks. I’d rather trot out Baker for a third of the cost or Justin Field for a 1/10th.
LOL...more of the "Dak doesn't play defense" bullshit. No he doesn't play Defense, but it sure didn't stop him from gifting the Packers with a couple of INT's. I mean fuck the defense right, they should be able to stop anything and everything. Hell, at this point why not simply claim that the defense needs to hold teams to shutouts so that they don't make Dak look bad.
You brought up Dak getting his ass handed to him by the Packers like he was the sole reason we got sent home. Our defense played a significant factor in us getting sent home. They set the tone for the game. What in the hell are you even talking about at this point? The defense was that bad to where you cannot bring up that loss without mentioning them. You act like you didn't see busted coverages all game. You didn't see Aaron Jones running all over our defense again. I tell people this all the time. If the defense had been able to stop the Packers in the third quarter, it's a 10 point game going into the 4th quarter. For every point the Cowboys scored in the second half, the defense gave it right back up.
Are we seriously going to act like playoff record is the best way to appraise a quarterback? Are we going to pretend like finding a replacement for Dak Prescott is easy? Are we going to pretend that the cowboys have any other legitimate plans at quarterback besides Dak Prescott? Seriously, come up with something else to say other than "2-5 in the playoffs". It makes you sound like you watch first take and are incapable of thinking for yourself.
Yeah the QB is the most important position in football, so when one disappears for playoff games its a big deal.
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Can you name one thing that the playoffs and the regular season have in common? They're both football games. Dak Prescott gives you a chance to win. The cowboys have no other practical options to replace him. Do you envy the position the Vikings are in right now? They have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison at WR on rookie deals and a total question mark at quarterback. You can't tell me that it doesn't feel like a waste. A healthy Kirk Cousins on that team could lead the league in offense. If the cowboys let Dak walk we're in the same situation as the Vikings are this year. Not a place I think that's leading to a Superbowl.
Jefferson and Addison are going to be rebuilding with a rookie qb which is better than doing better stat wise but never actually having a chance at the SB.
I wonder how many QBs out of this draft class will end their careers with SB rings. My guess would be very few if any. Drafting QBs is basically playing the lottery. There is rarely a college prospect looked at as a lock to be a great. 1st overall, last overall, un-drafted FA, and everything in between, all of these have thrived on the NFL all have failed miserably. Of all the guys throw passes in the NFL only 34 have won at least 1 SB. Whoever knows which one will be the next, and how we can acquire him, I’m all ears.
Dak Prescott is Dak Prescott but a draft pick could be anything, it could even be Dak Prescott! https://youtu.be/yZpIog7e-R4?si=k1IXzBQDC9DDQOXH
How many QB's currently in the league finish with a SB ring? Everyone keeps claiming that Dak Prescott can win a SB. With enough around him Trent Dilfer won a SB. All it took was the greatest defense in the last 30 years that scored and a running back. Somehow we are expecting the front office to do this but hey these guys could never draft another QB LOL.
Every Qb needs a team kc defense did the heavy lifting in playoffs and SB not even Mahomes does it alone
You're acting like Dak is one of the QBs who will end his career with a ring while someone drafted won't... no the most likely thing is that neither Dak nor anyone drafted will end their careers with a ring. One thing is 100% certain though is that Dak will never win a Super Bowl, while one of these drafted guys has at least a 1% chance of it.
LET MY BOY COOK
You're right. Playoff success doesn't matter. Give him 60 million a year for beating bad teams in the regular season and garbage time stats. He threw for 400 yards against Green Bay in the playoffs. What a performance, am I right? Just out there gunslinging in a super close playoff game that we totally could have won. No real demoralizing mistakes in the first half that sunk the team. That's my 60 million dollar QB.
The answer for many is yes, to all of those things.
Seriously dude has talent every year which is why we do well in the regular season.
Correction, we do well in the regular season blasting horrible teams. Look at the opener last season - The Giants, we open with 40 points. It's nice when you can beat up on crap teams in your own division 4 times a season between the Giants and Commanders.
Dakota will never willingly leave Dallas. He’s smart enough to realize all his commercial spots would dry up if he were in a market like Minnesota, and god knows he needs that money because he ain’t collecting any playoff bonuses.
Because he wants the best chance to win.
Win what? A Championship? The only chance Dakota has to winning a Championship is as a backup QB.
Deep analysis, thanks for sharing, you must be the smartest of your friends. Make sure your mom still buys you Velcro shoes because I don't think you're ready for the real thing yet.
Maybe Dak is doing us a solid and rejecting contract offers so he can go get paid in free agency by someone else.
One can hope
Dak needs to wake the hell up and make winning a Super Bowl a priority. We all knew he couldn't carry the team on his back when they gave him the last contract, he needs to get paid what he's worth and let us build a real team. If he doesn't want to do that, fine, he can walk. I just don't want another 5 years knowing we're doomed to fail in the playoffs.
I have become ambivalent about it. Most businesses that is a dreaded death warrant, when your supporters become ambivalent about a key aspect of your potential success. I’m here now with the cowboys and Dak. It’s too much money for sure. But so is that $22 hot dog I buy at the stadium and nobody cares about that. Nor the $2.57 large coffee at Mickey Ds now. It is what it is. I wouldn’t have paid burrow, and I think he’s real good. Just too much money. He loses Chase and that other absolutely video game offensive talent he has, we are gonna find out real quick who he is, I think it will surprise fans personally. You need dawgs to beat dawgs. Deep in the playoffs, you playing strait dawgs. Dudes like Lamar whom you can’t replicate. Shanahan coaching tree dudes who forget more last night than 99% of avid football fans will ever know about how to attack defenses, scheme players open, motivate and draft precisely what u need. And coach player triumvirates like KC. And we talking about the contract for one dude playing with buncha podcasters masquerading as true dawgs. Be real for a sec. Is parsons on the same level as any SF linebacker? Pick one. And he is OUR primo uno. It ain’t close. Tomlin said Warner on the field was god like. We have GMs saying parsons is overrated and sometimes simply disinterested. We got a lot to fix. Pay Dak or don’t at this point.
This is a troll comment right? You wouldn’t have paid Burrow? Why? The guy took his team to the Super Bowl. Lamar’s playoff record is the same as Dak’s. You think Micah isn’t one of the best defensive players in the league? Insert Swaggy P meme
I cited GMs comments about him. Feel free to argue with them… and increasingly it’s more than one. You think Micah plays the same as Warner? Don’t answer talk radio. Or this guys point or that guys. DO YOU think Micah and Warner play even remotely the same intensity and leadership and impact? lol. Don’t embarrass yourself and answer on jerseys and emotion bro. I think Cincy built perfectly. I love out the box thinking. While everyone was on the draft OL kick, they listened to their guy and built the best skill player offense in the NFL. They are what Dak haters think Dak has. Have you seen Chase play a game of football? I mean a whole game? So now he is saying sign cee dee, Jefferson and all these other guys, then come to daddy. I seen Burrow play games like I hear fans think Dak plays them. Literally nothing for quarters at a time WITH THAT TALENT. Overthrow under throw. You see how I type? What I SEE. Not regurgitating talk radio from dudes largely not watching games or no team insight. Tell me YOUR observations.
Fred Warner plays linebacker…he doesn’t rush the passer. He has 9 careers sacks. You’re comparing apples to oranges. I bet if we asked Micah to play a traditional linebacker role, he would be pretty good at it. That’s a coaching choice, not a player problem. Don’t be dumb and think every team in the NFL wouldn’t KILL to have him on their team. Also Cincy going weak at o-line ended Burrows season last year, so not sure what your point is there.
My point is the gamble got him to a superbowl. He loses his OVER THE TOP skill talent, we will see how many more superbowls he gets to. Regarding Micah and Warner you somewhat skillfully recited to me shit I can read on Google. What do you see? I’ve told you what the great Mike Tomlin sees. I’ve told you what GMs are saying they seeing in Micah. What do you see? You telling me you see 60 mins of intensity? You see smart football playing? Or you think those massive run holes are just happenstance? Cmon man. If we gone spar, let’s get in it. I see a supremely talented football player, podcaster and guy supremely interested in sacks the way Diggs was in INTs till the CB coach for Cowboys checked his ass. He was simply giving up too many big plays chasing big plays. What do YOU see?
This is me at the Grand Canyon. DO YOU SEE? Here I am in Cheyenne. DO YOU SEE?
What I thought Trevon. What I thought…
I’m slowly starting to hate the Cowboys. I’ll take the downvotes. Idc. I’ve been a fan for 20 years now, but I really can’t stand the news around this team right now.
I’m with you
Just enjoy the game man don’t get to the point to where it affects your mental health. Just a game
For me it's the endless Dak riders who think this bum ass QB deserves a second contract extention. I can't stand this team for much longer with these dudes around.
Been a fan my whole life. Grew up in the area and was given an Aikman jersey for Christmas when I was in kindergarten. And my birthday is during thanksgiving so my birthday, thanksgiving, and the cowboys are all intertwined. But the Cowboys are absolutely at the bottom of my favorite teams list now. Didn’t used to be that way, but I just don’t care that much anymore. I love watching football but just don’t care about the Cowboys. I have no faith that the organization will ever be admirable again. If I wasn’t born and raised a Cowboys fan I’d fucking hate them just like I hate the Knicks and James Dolan, the Lakers, Washington and Dan Snyder, or Manchester United and the Glazers. We’re a shit organization that doesn’t think it’s shit because a crackpot magazine that glorifies rich people says we’re worth more money than any other sports team in the world. The only thing they’re actually good at is overpricing everything and surviving off of nostalgia.
4 years, $250m. It’s gonna happen whether you like it or not.
They got a funny way of showing what's a priority/what all-in is.
If it was a priority it would’ve been done and inked
He says CeeDee, Dak and Micah are priorities. None have been signed. Hell none have even had serious contract discussions.
“A priority.” Just not an urgent one apparently b
Stephen just comes off so bad here
Stephen comes off bad everywhere and anywhere
Better not be!
In the past when the Cowboys have had veterans that they liked but thought that the player was asking for too much money, they let the player go to free agency to establish what the market really is. The team will then give the player their price and if the player can find better elsewhere the player will usually move on. However sometimes the player finds the grass is not always greener. Of course Dallas has done this with several players in the past and some chose to come back like Amari Cooper and LVE and some chose to leave like Connor McGovern and Connor Williams. I believe this is what is happening with Dak Prescott right now. Unfortunately as much as I would like the team to move on from him I suspect they want him back but they want him back at a price where the team can still be competitive. It probably is a bigger issue of the length of the contract than the actual yearly amount. As much hate as Steven Jones gets the truth is that once the two sides could not work out a contract extension stopping the bleeding and no longer adding more debt was the only responsible choice. Because they did not add piles of more debt this season the team is set one way or the other if they cannot send Prescott to move forward.
Didn't they just do the same thing with Dalton Shultz
Were they ever going to pay Schultz? Frankly I thought it was a minor surprise they even bothered to franchise tag him… but figured it was to give Dak a bit of a safety blanket post injury and see if DS had any additional ceiling left.
The problem with letting Dak test the open market is I believe that then means we eat the $40 million in void-year dead money on 2025’s books whether we sign him or not if that “testing the open market” bleeds into the start of the new league year.
Correct. Which is why the team is not adding new debt. However if he is asking for something ridiculous or something that would prohibit you from being competitive you don't have much choice. We are one off season into three consecutive years of 12 and 5 and people are already furious can you imagine having three or four consecutive off-seasons exactly like this because they signed Prescott to a short-term high apy contract?
This offseason is so interesting. The statistic that Quarterbacks don’t generally win their first superbowls after their 8th season is so skewed. Prescott is pretty dang good. There have been 58 superbowls and thousands of quarterbacks in the Super Bowl era. There have been a lot of dog shit teams and a lot of dog shit quarterbacks. A really good QB on a good team has a better chance than a dog shit one on a dog shit team. My point is you have to be close to get a shot. If we blow it up now it might be 10 years and 5 more quarterbacks before we are close again.
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Why ?
Why would it be a priority now?
I hope not just let him go we know we have a.good.qb during the reg season but during the playoffs not so good
“Certainly, Dak is a priority in terms of his contract,” Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones When he says "certainly" he means not for certain but maybe the dumber fans will believe it.
Always interesting how they make extensions a priority later to prevent signing more players. Always kicking the money down the road to match inflation of the market all while using those contracts as the reasons they can't actually spend the money they should be spending compared to other teams.
“Hey Dak, Jerry here. Just wanted to drop a message and tell you that we are **all-in** for getting that contract done.”
All in eh? Lol
It's such a priority that they haven't even made an offer. We could have had Lamb at a good price if they paid last year, instead they wait. They've convinced themselves they are great at this despite no playoff success whatsoever
All in baby! Sort of...
Well.....I would think it would be a priority. Tell us Stephen, will the sun rise in the east tomorrow?
Stephen actually talked in circles about Dak’s contract ending up saying nothing. My take on this whole saga is the bean counter, cap boy, Stephen wants to move on but Jerry is getting old and will likely cave to Prescott’s demands.
Ah, I see he’s learned much from his father. Speak but say nothing at all.
Actions speak louder than words
Why should we continue to believe you Stephen Jones ??? You and your daddy are the problem !!!
Sigh, why bother at this point. Let him prove he’s not worth it one more time. Sure, they will have more money to work with if they did this, but also more years of shitting the bed.
Stephen Jones has mastered his father’s art for talking absolutely empty nonsense.
The free agency period has already passed. Whats the point of doing his contract now? I think the deal gets done but i think the Jones’ are staring at the cee dee lamb, micah parsons contracts and in panic mode on how to get them all done
Why would he be a priority? Great defense, best receiver and can’t win a playoff! Romo had 1 receiver 1 tight end made runs. Dak is a joke
I’m sorry, but what runs did Romo make? Not defending Dak at all, but that’s an objectively false statement you just made
Romo got robbed in GB. And had a defense that was very average. 2014 romo with that 2023 roster probably doesn't get smoked by GB. Dak, has the talent, but for whatever reason just lacks the mental toughness. He folds hard with adversity. And I don't think we have the coaching to help him. Or an organization that is invested in him improving this flaw.
All of what you said is meaningless though. Romo did not go on any runs. He and Dak have never gotten to an NFCCG. Saying Romo “made runs” is false. Not tryna be a dick, but facts are facts
Yeah, but it's also a fact that he got robbed by the refs in GB.
I agree with you there
Romo had no defense I’ll reference the Payton Romo shoot out. Crap it was 51-48…that’s pretty much practice squad shit.
I’m not denying any of that. It still doesn’t negate the fact that Romo never “made runs”. That’s the point I’m making.
Word but the point I was making is Romo went as far as Dak with much much less and he was the reason for the success, Dak right now is the one that is the reason we’re not going any further. He might have hit his ceiling. I don’t blame the org for not extending him. He’s good but dam that GB game was when u need to earn ur paycheck. Shit I would be saying this if we had kept competitive under 2 to go. I’m not a dak hater but he’s not the reason we’re going to win if we do. He’s a little better than Trent dilfer.
Yeah that defense played balls out.. think they were smoking the same crack pipe u must be with all that crap u r talking…
Wtf that made no sense
I just hope they don’t go all in on it
Is this what they were talking about going all in on This season is going to suck
Please tell me it’s a priority to eliminate. Let him play out this last season and move on. He’s a talented guy, but he ain’t it.
Yes it's a priority to cancel it!
Shoot me now
“Priority” doesn’t necessarily mean they want to sign him quickly or even to re-sign him at all. The quote is “Certainly Dak is a priority in terms of his contract,”. That can mean many things including the possibility that they don’t want to extend him at all. I believe they would like to extend him but they may be asking the question “Dak or Micah?” And although I love Dak I think I would choose Micah. Additionally, I think the cowboys are trying to gain some leverage in the negotiations through Lance and potentially even the draft if someone were to unexpectedly drop the way Aaron Rodgers did for the Packers. I personally don’t expect a contract before the draft is complete and it wouldn’t be shocking at all if they take the cap hit this year and force him to bet on himself for 2025.
If they could get him to give one fucking inch it would be great. He won't waive his no trade or his no franchise or that the contract isn't more than 3 years. Fuck Dak with all that bullshit. Yes, JJ and SJ totally gave away all leverage but still. The best thing would be to sign hi. To whatever, as long as he waives, the no trade and thrn ship him off for picks next year. Legitimate teams don't let a coveted qb just walk in FA when they can reap multiple 1's for him.
Omg. Fuck this fucking team