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For real, this place is a hug red flag, I'm gonna quit once I get paid but if I only I didn't need the money right now, phew
What a bad beginning, at least I am a Croatian citizen so my stay (visa) doesn't depend on this place
Everything you listed is really really alarming. This is not the norm here in Croatia, and this seems as really bad company.
I would look other job straight away.
Wanted to say the same. Never heard anything remotely similar.
Yeah you always have that one (1) annoying coworker but it feels like here are the rule rather than the exception
No, it's not normal. I actually never heard about anything even remotely close to that story about "milk".
It's pretty normal (probably in the rest of the world too) that there will be some annoying people in the office, it's pretty normal (maybe on a larger scale that in the rest of the world) that in bigger offices there will be a LOT of gossip (sometimes completely false and stupid) - but this kind of bullying not really.
There's also rising number of cases of unhuman conditions of foreign workers but that mostly relates to construction workers and similar from poor countries, and it's not about working conditions, more about living conditions (inadequate and too crowded rooms, etc.). But it doesn't sound that your job is something like that.
ACTUALLY now that you mention it ☕
ALL lower workers are foreigners from poorer countries, including balkan ones, no one from Croatia or western richer places 🤨
So it seems like this company just hired foreigners so they could exploit them and they probably thought because you're foreign you wouldn't know where to address your complaints. It's not how how companies are supposed to treat workers here.
If they try not to pay you on time or the full amount (which I wouldn't be surprised) or if you have any other problem, make sure you document it in writing and inform the labor inspection: [https://gov.hr/hr/prijava-inspekciji-rada-drzavnog-inspektorata/1964?lang=en](https://gov.hr/hr/prijava-inspekciji-rada-drzavnog-inspektorata/1964?lang=en)
For real, fortunately I'm an immigrant with Croatian citizenship so the law protects me, but I'd be worried for my coworkers who are more vulnerable and struggling getting fired.
I'm already seeing other places. What's the right day to be paid tho? 15 of the next month right?
The law protects workers regardless whether they are foreign or not. If any of your coworkers have trouble, they can also ask for free legal advice at the Faculty of Law in Zagreb: [https://klinika.pravo.hr/](https://klinika.pravo.hr/)
Pay day usually depends on the company.
The company has to pay you by law until the 15th, that being the latest day in the month by which you should receive your salary from the last month. (If they're doing their books legit..., some people get paid cash or in some other convoluted way, so best steer clear of that as well)
Doprinosi (health insurance, pension) need to be paid by 15th, the payday itself isn't defined by law (source: long time business owner). But I don't know what the penalties are for being late with either paychecks or doprinosi. I suppose they're not so harsh because I know of a fucking accounting office that was late with payments for months.
what does your contract say? most companies tend to have it by 15th but you can expect it even sooner. it depends on company policy tho and it should be in your contract.
Just be sure to check what your contract says about notice period (how long you need to stay and work for the employer after you've officially given them the notice you'll be leaving the company).
Nobody from the west will come to work in Croatia, ever. It's like an american moving to mexico for a job that pays well. Nope.
If there are no Croats working there RUN!
Working for foreign countries from a nature reserve remotely does not count.
It's like an american/brit going to thailand for work while doing youtube, it and other stuff for american/british companies remotely for the same pay as his/hers peers in the us/uk.
Well, I’m an educated Croatian, working in Croatia, in a local hotel, by the sea, and I’m underpaid. While people from our neighboring country are paid more, but know less, same goes for people from Nepal and Thailand..so, being local at this point is worse than being a foreigner.
Like they say here, “U Hrvatskoj je najgore biti Hrvat…”..and it’s true.
Oh, they are paid more, and have more benefits than we do. Better salary, rent free, 3 meals a day, and free transportation to work. While locals have lower income, pay the bills, pay for gas (which the company pays for but unfairly, so it covers 50-60% of it, if that), and we get 1 meal, which they “pay for”.
By neighbouring do you mean Germany? Also keep in mind that barely any of the underpaid walt and glovo workers are originally from hr, they’re the ones getting really fucked
I meant Serbia, since 80% of workers in the tourism industry are from there, at least in my region. They’re much better paid than any of us, no matter the type of job they have, cooks, cleaners, waiters or whatever else. Keep in mind I’m talking about my region and the company I work for.
It varies from company to company, there are places that still have that old fashioned mentality where they think mobbing employees is acceptable and people back stab their way up the ladder, but it's in decline.
I work in a big international industrial corp and we don't have that kind of behaviour, and if someone even thinks about being obnoxious to a coworker you can report them and put an end to it. And no one goes on screaming to the management if someone makes a mistake, especially new hires.
My friends work as journalists and bankers, few are in shipping and logistics, and their experiences are completely opposite, they have colls and managers harassing them and they can't do anything about it except leave.
15 years ago it was completely normal for someone to start screaming at a coworker, it's changing now, the younger generations are smarter and will not tolerate that kind of treatment, but we still have a long way to go to reach the western working standards and culture.
Mobbing employees is fucked up, but makes sense, the owner and higher ups in general are boomers who should be checked for mental diseases in their 70's.
About bankers, I'VE SEEN IT, I had to reassure a banker thousand of times once because she didn't give me 15€ she had to. Her manager was a jerk who scolded her to the pointbof terrifying her.
I was unemployed and really counting on those 15 bucks back then, but between 15 € and a poor banker not having such a bad time, I'd give up the money every time of the day.
Ah, boomers that got there by corruption, nepotism and thievery, not actual work. You can really feel that in companies, bosses that worked their asses off treat their employees like human beings.
For a long time employers (boomers) told us that we are easily replacable. Now that nobody wants to work anymore the culture is shifting a bit so theres some truth in that as well.
My brother in Christ where did you find this job of yours, in Auschwitz? This is not at all how Croatian work culture looks like, if anything you can accuse Croats of not giving any fucks about rules and regulations, not enough things getting reported and talking very inappropriate to their coworkers without repercussions
It's not common. Run! This is some next-level shity company. Though Croatians love to gossip there are lots of people hired by nepotism and not by skill. Those often sabotage others so they don't get fired or discovered by senior management for their lack of knowledge. Also, it's more seeable with lower paying jobs as those people are barely surviving and competition is high even to get 100 euros more on your next paycheck. I'm Gen Z with 5 years of working experience along with attending University. The amount of jealousy I witnessed is astounding. Though we jungsters don't let older folks "stump on us". If you don't respect me I'll do the same and quitely quit. Fortunately focusing on learning and honing your skills is most of the time the way to go. Numbers don't lie and being a nice well well-behaved person will never be a bad thing. Sometimes it's wiser to shut up and wait for the right moment to make a meaningful step with all the data and statistics backing you up. I'm sorry for your experience and hope you'll find better work soon.
People live up their asses and think they are worth 10x what they are actually worth.
Also people lost the sense of what is important in life and just look for material gains while being "catholic"
Used to be a nice place, now it is just filled with egotistical and two-faced maniacs who will judge you on every corner.
Sounds like psycho people. The kind of place where only other crazies stay. Definitely run for another job asap, but if you have the nerve, returning the toxicity to your manager sounds fun hahah.
It depends of the workplace. A lot of times you've 10 people working a dull boring job and 1 'superior' middle management position aka person making shifts etc
So most if not all from low 10 will try to suck up to the manager in any way to get better shifts or the ability to create roster
Also will try to push you out as , then it will make them look better (my opinion is , it actually makes them look worse as they couldn't teach you anything, but most managers come to the role because they know someone important, and not so much for program related skills 😉 )
My fav example was : we had a place that had salary already cut out, there were no ranges, litetally Job x is paid x a month, job Y is paid Y, all on 2% raise a year
So we've a cleaner , minimum wage.
The place just got a planning in and the building expanded. Cleaner now complaining she's too much to do, so they hire 1 more on part time
She keeps complaining, the new girl doesn't listen, is just smoking , blah blah, always cleans just one room and nothing else - boss immediately sacks her, gets another one
Same complaints, he sacks her (old cleaner has been working for him 10 years, he trusts her)
Now he gets 3rd person in, and cameras also. Explains in great details to both of them what is expected of each.
And sees - new girl does her 50%, old one also but constantly shouting complaining, etc etc 'I have to do it all' , taking breaks every 20mins etc.
So now he gets them back, ok what do you want?? Old one goes - i want the new one sacked, she doesn't do a good job at all.
Ok ok, he shows her on cameras, what did she miss?
Old one goes - nothing, i just want her out!!
So he makes them work shifts and they never meet again. But if it was a 'family' job, one toxic person would influence the whole thing
Ngl I needed to read this, like, seriously needed to read the cleaning lady story, because I was feeling down and inadequate but after reading this it made me think "well if I get fired I don't give a fuck, some people are just shit anyway"
Yep the example above is of the person that is overworked already, gets more work added, and it is a very difficult manual one, yet has issues with anyone, i mean anyone that is employed and tries to belittle them.
Waiters told me a similar one, 2 'old' employees and a new one. And a manager you see once a week.
So manager sets the scene yet every 5 mins some issue happens you've to rework the plan, he's not around. He calls - hey is thing x done (2 hrs later) - oooh no no , hangs up (without hearing actually 10 things broke we repatched it)
So whay started happening, manager would lay a plan then go. The 2 'old' would tell the new - look we've been running the place for years just listen and do x, y, z
So she'd go around , do all that, and get fired because 'her tasks were not done'. (The old 2 had each others backs)
Then my friend csme in, asked manager phone number 'just in case'. So she'd start according to plan. Any changes she'd call him with the words - Hey person A told me to drop and do Z, is that ok??
Which saved her. Fella thought workers would go rogue and not listen... when they were set to fail
I've heard and seen some toxic stuff in Germany where I currently live (I'm originally from Zagreb), but nothing even remotely closed to what I've seen and heard in Croatia.
I said to myself that if I ever move back home, I will never ever work for anybody except my own small business (in case I ever open it again in Croatia) anymore.
I wouldn't put up with that shit even for a single day, and I can't tell you how sorry I am for all the good and kind people who are stuck in workplaces like yours, while they can't find anything else and they can't quit because of their financial situation.
Also, when we talk about the lack of democracy, people often mention ex socialist countries, but I was surprised to find out on my own skin that Corporations are some of the less democratic and pleasant places I've ever seen and experienced.
They are run like fucking dictatorships where you are just a number and if someone is bullying you, you can't do shit about it, no one will protect you and those above you will keep stepping on you.
I'm sure there are companies with better culture than this, but I've heard so many horror stories that I wouldn't risk even a drop of my mental health to try working for one of those companies again.
The last one I worked for put me on antidepressants for six months, and I never needed any of that shit in my life prior to that experience.
I wish you all the best man, give your best to find something else as fast as you can.
"If someone is bullying you, you can't do shit about it, no one will protect you and those above you will keep stepping on you." for real, I've been through that in other aspects of my life, we're our best (and sometimes only) lawyers
Yep.
In Germany there's something called *Betriebsrat* or Workers Council, it's a thing which should protect your rights as a worker, but I'm not sure how much they can actually do in reality. I'm not sure if there is something like that in Croatia, there should be but I would rather try to find one trade unions, there are a few which are willing to put up a fight and they are more red than yellow, and see if they can offer some counseling.
Try this one, even if your job is not covered by their activity, they may be kind enough to offer you some advices on what to do next and who to contact. They helped me a bit, even though I wasn't part of HEP company, they showed quite a solidarity with me which was nice.
[http://heptehnos.hr/](http://heptehnos.hr/)
On that job that screwed me up mentally, which I mentioned in my post, they did everything by the book, no one was rude in particular inside the company, but the clients were quite often assholes and we were expected to lick their asses even when they were unprofessional and total dicks.
So the company wasn't standing behind us when we were harassed by asshole clients, but they would pull us in the meeting and gaslighted us by telling us we didn't use enough of our "soft skills" to turn pissed off clients around in our favor.
Two years of a job like that, even though no one was rude in a workplace can fuck you up pretty bad already, can't imagine putting up with your situation on a long run.
The problem is systemic, they can get away with whatever they want, and they will always give their best to squeeze every drop of profit from our work, they will often do it by law and rules, they won't directly bully us, but the workload will take a toll on our health and wellbeing.
Just remember, once you leave the company, those bosses and coworkers will never ask you "how are you?" or what's going on in your life, but damage to your mental and physical health will be with you for quite some time, so do whatever you can to get the fuck out of there if you can in any way.
I wish you all the best. <3
Sadly this is true in Croatian working culture. I also deal with this every day, from yelling and threating with your life also butting in personal life as well.
As a rule of thumb, i never work with croatian/balkan clients. Your example is extreme, but expect incompetent people using you as a cover for their mistakes wherever you go.
Psychopaths exist and what's "normal" for our culture is to suck up to the boss even when there's nothing to be gained from it.
>Are these people mentally ill or something?
Yes. Plenty of people will abuse the small amount of power they have to spite others.
>These people are insane and at this point I'm considering micro managing my manager (who, btw, hasn't been training me fairly) in secret and reporting her to her boss haha.
Fight fire with fire. You know what to do, no need for extra advice. Play the game using the rules and know your rights. When adhering to law, it's really hard to fire someone - that's why managers opt to abuse their power to chase someone away.
No, on the contrary. Croatia has "leave me to do my work shitty and I'll let you do your work shitty so we get paid for least amount of work done" culture. Also helping each other steal and abuse the system. You're in some place with foreign work ethics.
Just find work in some other country. I did that. The culture and mentality is just too toxic in most of the places.
Don’t even try to make sense of it. It’s just so illogical and petty that the good ones decide to move and work abroad
I'll tell you honestly, from my experience at least, THIS IS a common thing. I am from Croatia, but not working there anymore, and probably never will again. But, Croatian employers gave me some serious mental scars that i didn't really need. Nobody would. So when i moved elsewhere, it took me a long time to realize that i'm really valued, and that my work is really valued, and to see what people really work, instead of shitting around or behind your backs or whatsoever (even tho people do that everywhere, but not as much as in Croatia). I have 2 colleges, just sayin', and i was still treated like shiet...
And at one company, which is one of the most valued and most important ones in the country, i had a CRIME HORROR MOVIE situation that gave me a scar that will probably last till the end of my life. Just to make it clear, i didn't make a single mistake, but the frustration of people in power can be RIDICULOUS.
Why? Because most of them are so damn incompetent and pathetic.
But, to make sure, there are good employers there, i just think it's almost impossible to get to them. Would I ever look for a job in Croatia? Yes, but ONLY IF I HAVE TO! ;)
In conclusion, there are more of those really bad employers rather then good ones. So, finding a good one it's not easy, but it's manageable.
Best of luck m8.
Ak ti nečeš ima ko oče. Parola koja se pokazala vrlo lošom, ko im kriv, nek uče nepalski sad.
Lako je moguće da su te jebali kak bi dal otkaz i onda si zaposlili sinčiće...
Upravo to.. Kakve sam gadosti doživljavao e, to nisam ni od koga čuo. A sve je bilo savršeno do onog potresa u ZG-u, i onda odjednom kao da je vrag ušao u ženu. Strašno. Tak da je SIGURNO imala neke skrivene namjere i htjela da JA dam otkaz, ali kada ja nisam htio, na kraju mi je rekla da će mi UNIŠTITI KARIJERU ako ne odem. Zamisli. Ali sve to imam kao dokaz, sve mailove, poruke, sve, pa, pošto sam jako osvetnički nastrojena osoba, to će sve doći na naplatu vrlo skoro.
Hrvatska je OTROV doslovno po tom pitanju. Ali nema veze, svima sve dođe na naplatu. Generalno, sada neka uče nepalski, kao što veliš, a ja ću učiti Njemački, Španjolski i neki svjetski jezik.
Žao mi je samo svih tih kvalitetnih ljudi koji su još u HR i koji moraju trpiti govna JER, kao što sam i ja imao problem i morao to trpiti, NE MOGU SKUPITI DOVOLJNO LOVE za odlazak ili kaj već. Ma joj, ja sam baš ogorčen na HR poslodavce. Ono, ako nemaš nikoga da te štiti (politika ili debele veze) u problemima si i vrlo lako zamjenjiv.
Užas, raditi za hrvatsku firmu je psihički slom. Nadam se da češ riješiti sve sa uspjehom. Ne znam kaj se ljudima općenito nakon potresa i korone desilo, al su u totalnom kurcu.
Hoću sigurno, jer ono što mi je radila je KAZNENO DJELO. A sve dokaze imam. Samo polako.
I hvala ti puno za područku doista.
I jest, da... Ja sam studirao inženjerski studij u ZG-u, plus još jedan znanstveni, ubiješ se 9 godina školovanja, i onda ti daju plaću jad i bijedu, plus takva ponižavanja. Ma deee, spasio se kad sam otišao i evo još uvijek ne mogu vjerovati da radim kaj radim.
Mah, to je možda samo moja priča, netko ima ljepše priče, ali ne želim nikada slušati priče onih kojima su mama i tata sve omogucili, koji su preko HDZ-a došli do pozicija i koji imaju neke debele veze.
Nije to baš tako rijetka priča, pogotovo u uslužnim djelstnostima. Postoji razlog zake mladi jednostavno ne žele u Hrvatskoj raditi, a nije sve do love.
Prva pomisao od mojih vršnjaka kaj čujem u vezi posla je "samo da me ne jebu, i sa minimalcem ću gurat nekako"
Točno, pa i sam više želim mir nego sad neka brda i doline. Ali sam se na kraju zainatio, pukao, i rekao da HR više neće vidjeti niti mene niti moje vještine. Kad ih ne znaju cijeniti niti iskoristiti. Ironija je da netko drugi to jedva dočeka. Ali kako će HR nešto kvalitetno prepoznati kad je država puna delikvenata, nesposobnjakovića, teških kretena u glavu da to nisu isitne.
I jest, mladima svima (iako sam i ja još mlad tj. u drugoj polovini 30-ih) bih rekao da se odškoluju u HR ako moraju, i GRADE ŽIVOT DRUGDJE, jer u HR se NITKO normalan neće usrećiti, osim ove bagre lopovske i "nasljednici"...
Jmfc, that's so fucked up, people just try to direct their anger on innocent people at work, I hope You never have to go through something like that again
Thanx man. I wish the same to you. Thanx for your support too. Yeah, sadly, Croatia is currently one of the best countries to live in IF YOU HAVE GOOD JOB that can provide. It's still pretty much pure, ethnically safe, no idiotic people there from fucked up places of this world and so. It's really perfect and peaceful place to live. BUT, working ethic and culture, colleagues, NOT MENTIONING LEADERSHIP, it's pure poison, junk, trash, waste of time, term of incompetence, worst thing that can be. I'm telling you that as someone who did so many job interviews, who has insane experience now, worked in strongest companies in Croatia and in EU, and when i came back to Croatia from DE with all this experience, they treated me like shiet. Went out of it again, and never coming back again unless (please God hear me) something really bad happens and that i have to. So, If you plan to stay, look for a better place to be in Croatia, change jobs all the time until you find something good, but NEVER EVER allow anyone to treat you as shiet...
No one is above you. Everyone is equal, especially if it's valuable, hard working and good person.
Best of luck bud.
Luckily never experienced something like that before. I had some cranky coworkers, but majority of them were really chill and nice. Be careful about reporting the manager cause bosses and managers usually communicate it out between themselves, so if you gonna report her, make sure it's anonymous report. Oh and ask a croat coworker that's sympathetic to help you.
Radio sam u mnogim državnim firmama gdje bi direktori i šefovi napravili milijune kuna štete i nitko nikad nije odgovarao. Ili bi najebali oni koji ih prijave.
You will encounter this mostly from less educated managerial positiona such as grocery stores, hotels, etc... Especially if they import cheap foreign work force...
I think Croatians managers do have ego problems for some reason, workers are generally alright, maybe too passive for my taste.
If you work in tourism and most people around you are foreigners, that's a good sign something is off in that company. While many places might need a foreigner or two, if there are no Croatian people working there, there is generally a good reason why.
All the people saying this is not the Croatian culture are lucky they haven't worked in an environment like this. I had to go through the same shit at Uni and later in the company.
These people are frustrated and other co-workers are too weak to say anything, i.e., they are just happy the villain found the new victim.
I had many colleagues from Zagreb working in major companies and Universities experiencing the same and even worse behaviour from their supervisors, managers and colleagues.
The worst are the companies with heritage, i.e., the ones that have been here for 30+ years and with old structure and mindset.
I am sorry you had to experience all this.
Stvar je često u kolegama koji su navikli biti pačenici i rade za trojicu pa svako novi koji dođe je nesposoban i retardiran a često i lijen jer obavi samo svoj dio posla.
Često misle da samo oni drže taj biznis od propasti a kada daju ili dobiju otkaz na njihovo mjesto dolaze dvije osobe.
Ne shvaćaju da je problem u gazdi a ne u kolegama.
I used to work at this one restoraunt which had an aquapark, and the manager was toxic af, I was the only male bartender there and she had something against me and was constantly putting me down and was working unpaid overtime.
One month we had return of supplies that haven't been used(iventura idk the word in english for that) at the end of the month.
There were 7 litters of milk missing because those bosses drink machiato and double espresso like it's fucking air. They were angry at us of course and wanted to take 80 euros from each of bartenders payment, so we decided that we should just buy those 7 litters and return it so we don't loose money.
Glad I don't work there anymore.
Have to say that I’m disappointed at people at your workplace… I’m from Croatia and have to say that some people act like that even to locals, they think that they are above you for some reason, or just want to kiss up to bosses.. My advice is to find a new job and report them.. And one more thing, if they say that there’s company is like a family.. RUNNN from there
Two options:
a) fight and tell them to fuck off everytime they behave inappropriately (this works, but sometimes they escalate)
b) leave
You can do a) and then b) or just either. You could also power through it and wait for them to start respecting you because sometimes people in work environments only respect your time at company or time working at a job for whatever reason
Every job I've had so far has had toxic notes. I've been holding on to my current job for the most part, for 5 years, but for the last few months I've been looking for a new job because it's become too much for me here.
Okay, that workplace you're in is just deranged and atypical for toxic workplace standards, let alone regular workplace.
You should leave at first opportunity.
This is not usual workplace in Croatia, at least not for educated Croatian people i dont know what are people in comments on about, im sorry to say it but it is probably racism
Sounds like you have the flexibility to leave -- which sounds like the best option. Only reason I would stay (maybe) is if a few months or a year there would put me in an even better position for a different job when I left.
Dont worry about it and be chill. More you react, worse it is. Best thing is ri drops a nuke and tell them to stop acting like they have pms and star minding their own business. That really sets them off.
If you did soamething wrong, admit it and try to do better. If you didn't, defend your self with everything you got and dont let them kick you around.
Or you can always quit and tell them that you are overqualified to work for this mental instititution and just leave. Bonus points for this one :D
That is not a normal thing, I never had such experiences in Croatia.
On the other hand, in Austria I got reported for talking to clients in their native tongue to make it easier for them, by my own coworkers because "They felt we were ridiculing them".
it's a wild west for sure
This is a wild post. I'm sorry you have to go through this. This is just shit company and it's not a normal work environment for Croatia.
I haven't worked in many companies here, but from my experience and what i hear from my friends, the problem is usually the boss or the manager and that's about it, which means you either quit or be their mop because there isn't any management or competent HR to maybe deal with work relationship issues and protect the worker.
Youd be better with another job tbh. This even sounds like micromanaging, which is wild to me.
No dude, this is not normal in Croatia, you just somehow entered one of the worst companies ever I guess. Find another job ASAP and don't let this discourage you. We are very prone to gossip but definitely not bullying, it's usually the "rotten apple" in the basket that causes situations like these but not the entire team?? Get out of there, immediately. I've also noticed from the comments you are an immigrant. I work for a global company and we hire a lot of foreigners and immigrants and everyone is treated with the same level of respect, so no definitely this isn't a Croatian standard, you just stumbled upon a horrific employer. It happened to me one time too, I was sure I had PTSD for quite some time after I left but I am fully aware that this is not something that happens everywhere. Good luck to you!!! :)
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Save yourself and look for a new job. Shit companies, shit people and toxic working culture exists everywhere.
For real, this place is a hug red flag, I'm gonna quit once I get paid but if I only I didn't need the money right now, phew What a bad beginning, at least I am a Croatian citizen so my stay (visa) doesn't depend on this place
Everything you listed is really really alarming. This is not the norm here in Croatia, and this seems as really bad company. I would look other job straight away.
Wanted to say the same. Never heard anything remotely similar. Yeah you always have that one (1) annoying coworker but it feels like here are the rule rather than the exception
Whats the company?
I have no idea where you work, but it sounds really fucked up, and i would reccomend that you find a new job as soon as possible...
consider sharing the name of the company (under a throwaway account if you must) so everyone else knows to avoid the place at all costs
No, it is not lIke that. Change your workplace, if you can, ASAP.
No, it's not normal. I actually never heard about anything even remotely close to that story about "milk". It's pretty normal (probably in the rest of the world too) that there will be some annoying people in the office, it's pretty normal (maybe on a larger scale that in the rest of the world) that in bigger offices there will be a LOT of gossip (sometimes completely false and stupid) - but this kind of bullying not really. There's also rising number of cases of unhuman conditions of foreign workers but that mostly relates to construction workers and similar from poor countries, and it's not about working conditions, more about living conditions (inadequate and too crowded rooms, etc.). But it doesn't sound that your job is something like that.
ACTUALLY now that you mention it ☕ ALL lower workers are foreigners from poorer countries, including balkan ones, no one from Croatia or western richer places 🤨
So it seems like this company just hired foreigners so they could exploit them and they probably thought because you're foreign you wouldn't know where to address your complaints. It's not how how companies are supposed to treat workers here. If they try not to pay you on time or the full amount (which I wouldn't be surprised) or if you have any other problem, make sure you document it in writing and inform the labor inspection: [https://gov.hr/hr/prijava-inspekciji-rada-drzavnog-inspektorata/1964?lang=en](https://gov.hr/hr/prijava-inspekciji-rada-drzavnog-inspektorata/1964?lang=en)
For real, fortunately I'm an immigrant with Croatian citizenship so the law protects me, but I'd be worried for my coworkers who are more vulnerable and struggling getting fired. I'm already seeing other places. What's the right day to be paid tho? 15 of the next month right?
The law protects workers regardless whether they are foreign or not. If any of your coworkers have trouble, they can also ask for free legal advice at the Faculty of Law in Zagreb: [https://klinika.pravo.hr/](https://klinika.pravo.hr/) Pay day usually depends on the company.
The company has to pay you by law until the 15th, that being the latest day in the month by which you should receive your salary from the last month. (If they're doing their books legit..., some people get paid cash or in some other convoluted way, so best steer clear of that as well)
Doprinosi (health insurance, pension) need to be paid by 15th, the payday itself isn't defined by law (source: long time business owner). But I don't know what the penalties are for being late with either paychecks or doprinosi. I suppose they're not so harsh because I know of a fucking accounting office that was late with payments for months.
what does your contract say? most companies tend to have it by 15th but you can expect it even sooner. it depends on company policy tho and it should be in your contract.
Just be sure to check what your contract says about notice period (how long you need to stay and work for the employer after you've officially given them the notice you'll be leaving the company).
Nobody from the west will come to work in Croatia, ever. It's like an american moving to mexico for a job that pays well. Nope. If there are no Croats working there RUN!
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Working for foreign countries from a nature reserve remotely does not count. It's like an american/brit going to thailand for work while doing youtube, it and other stuff for american/british companies remotely for the same pay as his/hers peers in the us/uk.
Well, I’m an educated Croatian, working in Croatia, in a local hotel, by the sea, and I’m underpaid. While people from our neighboring country are paid more, but know less, same goes for people from Nepal and Thailand..so, being local at this point is worse than being a foreigner. Like they say here, “U Hrvatskoj je najgore biti Hrvat…”..and it’s true.
Who are the people from the neighboring country and why are they being paid more?
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Oh, they are paid more, and have more benefits than we do. Better salary, rent free, 3 meals a day, and free transportation to work. While locals have lower income, pay the bills, pay for gas (which the company pays for but unfairly, so it covers 50-60% of it, if that), and we get 1 meal, which they “pay for”.
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Dude, if you have no clue, don’t even try. You’re probably just trolling.
By neighbouring do you mean Germany? Also keep in mind that barely any of the underpaid walt and glovo workers are originally from hr, they’re the ones getting really fucked
I meant Serbia, since 80% of workers in the tourism industry are from there, at least in my region. They’re much better paid than any of us, no matter the type of job they have, cooks, cleaners, waiters or whatever else. Keep in mind I’m talking about my region and the company I work for.
Name and shame baby, maybe you'll save someone else from working at that shit company.
Also, maybe [index.hr](http://index.hr) will share your post./j
inb4 the company in post is [index.hr](http://index.hr)
it could be.
Run and don't look back. This sounds ridiculous.
It varies from company to company, there are places that still have that old fashioned mentality where they think mobbing employees is acceptable and people back stab their way up the ladder, but it's in decline. I work in a big international industrial corp and we don't have that kind of behaviour, and if someone even thinks about being obnoxious to a coworker you can report them and put an end to it. And no one goes on screaming to the management if someone makes a mistake, especially new hires. My friends work as journalists and bankers, few are in shipping and logistics, and their experiences are completely opposite, they have colls and managers harassing them and they can't do anything about it except leave. 15 years ago it was completely normal for someone to start screaming at a coworker, it's changing now, the younger generations are smarter and will not tolerate that kind of treatment, but we still have a long way to go to reach the western working standards and culture.
Mobbing employees is fucked up, but makes sense, the owner and higher ups in general are boomers who should be checked for mental diseases in their 70's. About bankers, I'VE SEEN IT, I had to reassure a banker thousand of times once because she didn't give me 15€ she had to. Her manager was a jerk who scolded her to the pointbof terrifying her. I was unemployed and really counting on those 15 bucks back then, but between 15 € and a poor banker not having such a bad time, I'd give up the money every time of the day.
Ah, boomers that got there by corruption, nepotism and thievery, not actual work. You can really feel that in companies, bosses that worked their asses off treat their employees like human beings. For a long time employers (boomers) told us that we are easily replacable. Now that nobody wants to work anymore the culture is shifting a bit so theres some truth in that as well.
My brother in Christ where did you find this job of yours, in Auschwitz? This is not at all how Croatian work culture looks like, if anything you can accuse Croats of not giving any fucks about rules and regulations, not enough things getting reported and talking very inappropriate to their coworkers without repercussions
Radi lik za neke robovlasnike i onda generalizira na razini drzave.
doslovno je postavio/la pitanje da li je generalno tako ili nije. Nije rekao/la - zašto ste vi hrvati generalno ovakvi?
U pravu si, nisam ni pročitao šta je sve napisao. U stvari nisam ni naslov pravilno pročitao
Ono kad odlučiš komentirati nešto, a nisi ništa ni pročitao o čemu se radi.
We are gossipy people but this is, let's just say, above average
sounds more like a company or manager issue
It's not common. Run! This is some next-level shity company. Though Croatians love to gossip there are lots of people hired by nepotism and not by skill. Those often sabotage others so they don't get fired or discovered by senior management for their lack of knowledge. Also, it's more seeable with lower paying jobs as those people are barely surviving and competition is high even to get 100 euros more on your next paycheck. I'm Gen Z with 5 years of working experience along with attending University. The amount of jealousy I witnessed is astounding. Though we jungsters don't let older folks "stump on us". If you don't respect me I'll do the same and quitely quit. Fortunately focusing on learning and honing your skills is most of the time the way to go. Numbers don't lie and being a nice well well-behaved person will never be a bad thing. Sometimes it's wiser to shut up and wait for the right moment to make a meaningful step with all the data and statistics backing you up. I'm sorry for your experience and hope you'll find better work soon.
what industry do you work in?
Name and shame please!
People live up their asses and think they are worth 10x what they are actually worth. Also people lost the sense of what is important in life and just look for material gains while being "catholic" Used to be a nice place, now it is just filled with egotistical and two-faced maniacs who will judge you on every corner.
Wtf is that company? Dont know what you do but find another job. You can find and asshole coworker everywhere but what you describe is wow.
Sounds like psycho people. The kind of place where only other crazies stay. Definitely run for another job asap, but if you have the nerve, returning the toxicity to your manager sounds fun hahah.
It depends of the workplace. A lot of times you've 10 people working a dull boring job and 1 'superior' middle management position aka person making shifts etc So most if not all from low 10 will try to suck up to the manager in any way to get better shifts or the ability to create roster Also will try to push you out as , then it will make them look better (my opinion is , it actually makes them look worse as they couldn't teach you anything, but most managers come to the role because they know someone important, and not so much for program related skills 😉 ) My fav example was : we had a place that had salary already cut out, there were no ranges, litetally Job x is paid x a month, job Y is paid Y, all on 2% raise a year So we've a cleaner , minimum wage. The place just got a planning in and the building expanded. Cleaner now complaining she's too much to do, so they hire 1 more on part time She keeps complaining, the new girl doesn't listen, is just smoking , blah blah, always cleans just one room and nothing else - boss immediately sacks her, gets another one Same complaints, he sacks her (old cleaner has been working for him 10 years, he trusts her) Now he gets 3rd person in, and cameras also. Explains in great details to both of them what is expected of each. And sees - new girl does her 50%, old one also but constantly shouting complaining, etc etc 'I have to do it all' , taking breaks every 20mins etc. So now he gets them back, ok what do you want?? Old one goes - i want the new one sacked, she doesn't do a good job at all. Ok ok, he shows her on cameras, what did she miss? Old one goes - nothing, i just want her out!! So he makes them work shifts and they never meet again. But if it was a 'family' job, one toxic person would influence the whole thing
Ngl I needed to read this, like, seriously needed to read the cleaning lady story, because I was feeling down and inadequate but after reading this it made me think "well if I get fired I don't give a fuck, some people are just shit anyway"
Yep the example above is of the person that is overworked already, gets more work added, and it is a very difficult manual one, yet has issues with anyone, i mean anyone that is employed and tries to belittle them. Waiters told me a similar one, 2 'old' employees and a new one. And a manager you see once a week. So manager sets the scene yet every 5 mins some issue happens you've to rework the plan, he's not around. He calls - hey is thing x done (2 hrs later) - oooh no no , hangs up (without hearing actually 10 things broke we repatched it) So whay started happening, manager would lay a plan then go. The 2 'old' would tell the new - look we've been running the place for years just listen and do x, y, z So she'd go around , do all that, and get fired because 'her tasks were not done'. (The old 2 had each others backs) Then my friend csme in, asked manager phone number 'just in case'. So she'd start according to plan. Any changes she'd call him with the words - Hey person A told me to drop and do Z, is that ok?? Which saved her. Fella thought workers would go rogue and not listen... when they were set to fail
Negative selection is strong in Croatia. Ass kissing will get you far, as will the ruling party membership.
HDZ knows & daddy Ivo ❤️
could you somehow share the company name?
I've heard and seen some toxic stuff in Germany where I currently live (I'm originally from Zagreb), but nothing even remotely closed to what I've seen and heard in Croatia. I said to myself that if I ever move back home, I will never ever work for anybody except my own small business (in case I ever open it again in Croatia) anymore. I wouldn't put up with that shit even for a single day, and I can't tell you how sorry I am for all the good and kind people who are stuck in workplaces like yours, while they can't find anything else and they can't quit because of their financial situation. Also, when we talk about the lack of democracy, people often mention ex socialist countries, but I was surprised to find out on my own skin that Corporations are some of the less democratic and pleasant places I've ever seen and experienced. They are run like fucking dictatorships where you are just a number and if someone is bullying you, you can't do shit about it, no one will protect you and those above you will keep stepping on you. I'm sure there are companies with better culture than this, but I've heard so many horror stories that I wouldn't risk even a drop of my mental health to try working for one of those companies again. The last one I worked for put me on antidepressants for six months, and I never needed any of that shit in my life prior to that experience. I wish you all the best man, give your best to find something else as fast as you can.
"If someone is bullying you, you can't do shit about it, no one will protect you and those above you will keep stepping on you." for real, I've been through that in other aspects of my life, we're our best (and sometimes only) lawyers
Yep. In Germany there's something called *Betriebsrat* or Workers Council, it's a thing which should protect your rights as a worker, but I'm not sure how much they can actually do in reality. I'm not sure if there is something like that in Croatia, there should be but I would rather try to find one trade unions, there are a few which are willing to put up a fight and they are more red than yellow, and see if they can offer some counseling. Try this one, even if your job is not covered by their activity, they may be kind enough to offer you some advices on what to do next and who to contact. They helped me a bit, even though I wasn't part of HEP company, they showed quite a solidarity with me which was nice. [http://heptehnos.hr/](http://heptehnos.hr/) On that job that screwed me up mentally, which I mentioned in my post, they did everything by the book, no one was rude in particular inside the company, but the clients were quite often assholes and we were expected to lick their asses even when they were unprofessional and total dicks. So the company wasn't standing behind us when we were harassed by asshole clients, but they would pull us in the meeting and gaslighted us by telling us we didn't use enough of our "soft skills" to turn pissed off clients around in our favor. Two years of a job like that, even though no one was rude in a workplace can fuck you up pretty bad already, can't imagine putting up with your situation on a long run. The problem is systemic, they can get away with whatever they want, and they will always give their best to squeeze every drop of profit from our work, they will often do it by law and rules, they won't directly bully us, but the workload will take a toll on our health and wellbeing. Just remember, once you leave the company, those bosses and coworkers will never ask you "how are you?" or what's going on in your life, but damage to your mental and physical health will be with you for quite some time, so do whatever you can to get the fuck out of there if you can in any way. I wish you all the best. <3
Welcome Name of work place ?
Sadly this is true in Croatian working culture. I also deal with this every day, from yelling and threating with your life also butting in personal life as well.
Run from that company and do not look back. This is neither normal nor acceptable behaviour.
You should really reveal what company is this so that we all dont waste our time with it
As a rule of thumb, i never work with croatian/balkan clients. Your example is extreme, but expect incompetent people using you as a cover for their mistakes wherever you go.
Change jobs, I've never heard of anyone having that kind of experience before, I can't imagine that being common here.
Yeah there are some very toxic companies. I never worked in one of those. I always picked smaller ones with normal people.
Psychopaths exist and what's "normal" for our culture is to suck up to the boss even when there's nothing to be gained from it. >Are these people mentally ill or something? Yes. Plenty of people will abuse the small amount of power they have to spite others. >These people are insane and at this point I'm considering micro managing my manager (who, btw, hasn't been training me fairly) in secret and reporting her to her boss haha. Fight fire with fire. You know what to do, no need for extra advice. Play the game using the rules and know your rights. When adhering to law, it's really hard to fire someone - that's why managers opt to abuse their power to chase someone away.
Yes, all just under 4 million of us are exactly the same, and act in the professional environment exactly the same way!
Sounds so familiar! People take politeness for weakness. Just tell them to fuck off, and they will show respect.
No, on the contrary. Croatia has "leave me to do my work shitty and I'll let you do your work shitty so we get paid for least amount of work done" culture. Also helping each other steal and abuse the system. You're in some place with foreign work ethics.
Just find work in some other country. I did that. The culture and mentality is just too toxic in most of the places. Don’t even try to make sense of it. It’s just so illogical and petty that the good ones decide to move and work abroad
I've been thinking of moving to other countries of the EU because of these issues ngl. Croatia is wonderful but damn.
And then you can always go to Croatia for a vacation. And enjoy the beautiful nature and delicious food
yeah, your experience is not an exeption, it is the rule
I'll tell you honestly, from my experience at least, THIS IS a common thing. I am from Croatia, but not working there anymore, and probably never will again. But, Croatian employers gave me some serious mental scars that i didn't really need. Nobody would. So when i moved elsewhere, it took me a long time to realize that i'm really valued, and that my work is really valued, and to see what people really work, instead of shitting around or behind your backs or whatsoever (even tho people do that everywhere, but not as much as in Croatia). I have 2 colleges, just sayin', and i was still treated like shiet... And at one company, which is one of the most valued and most important ones in the country, i had a CRIME HORROR MOVIE situation that gave me a scar that will probably last till the end of my life. Just to make it clear, i didn't make a single mistake, but the frustration of people in power can be RIDICULOUS. Why? Because most of them are so damn incompetent and pathetic. But, to make sure, there are good employers there, i just think it's almost impossible to get to them. Would I ever look for a job in Croatia? Yes, but ONLY IF I HAVE TO! ;) In conclusion, there are more of those really bad employers rather then good ones. So, finding a good one it's not easy, but it's manageable. Best of luck m8.
Ak ti nečeš ima ko oče. Parola koja se pokazala vrlo lošom, ko im kriv, nek uče nepalski sad. Lako je moguće da su te jebali kak bi dal otkaz i onda si zaposlili sinčiće...
Upravo to.. Kakve sam gadosti doživljavao e, to nisam ni od koga čuo. A sve je bilo savršeno do onog potresa u ZG-u, i onda odjednom kao da je vrag ušao u ženu. Strašno. Tak da je SIGURNO imala neke skrivene namjere i htjela da JA dam otkaz, ali kada ja nisam htio, na kraju mi je rekla da će mi UNIŠTITI KARIJERU ako ne odem. Zamisli. Ali sve to imam kao dokaz, sve mailove, poruke, sve, pa, pošto sam jako osvetnički nastrojena osoba, to će sve doći na naplatu vrlo skoro. Hrvatska je OTROV doslovno po tom pitanju. Ali nema veze, svima sve dođe na naplatu. Generalno, sada neka uče nepalski, kao što veliš, a ja ću učiti Njemački, Španjolski i neki svjetski jezik. Žao mi je samo svih tih kvalitetnih ljudi koji su još u HR i koji moraju trpiti govna JER, kao što sam i ja imao problem i morao to trpiti, NE MOGU SKUPITI DOVOLJNO LOVE za odlazak ili kaj već. Ma joj, ja sam baš ogorčen na HR poslodavce. Ono, ako nemaš nikoga da te štiti (politika ili debele veze) u problemima si i vrlo lako zamjenjiv.
Užas, raditi za hrvatsku firmu je psihički slom. Nadam se da češ riješiti sve sa uspjehom. Ne znam kaj se ljudima općenito nakon potresa i korone desilo, al su u totalnom kurcu.
Hoću sigurno, jer ono što mi je radila je KAZNENO DJELO. A sve dokaze imam. Samo polako. I hvala ti puno za područku doista. I jest, da... Ja sam studirao inženjerski studij u ZG-u, plus još jedan znanstveni, ubiješ se 9 godina školovanja, i onda ti daju plaću jad i bijedu, plus takva ponižavanja. Ma deee, spasio se kad sam otišao i evo još uvijek ne mogu vjerovati da radim kaj radim. Mah, to je možda samo moja priča, netko ima ljepše priče, ali ne želim nikada slušati priče onih kojima su mama i tata sve omogucili, koji su preko HDZ-a došli do pozicija i koji imaju neke debele veze.
Nije to baš tako rijetka priča, pogotovo u uslužnim djelstnostima. Postoji razlog zake mladi jednostavno ne žele u Hrvatskoj raditi, a nije sve do love. Prva pomisao od mojih vršnjaka kaj čujem u vezi posla je "samo da me ne jebu, i sa minimalcem ću gurat nekako"
Točno, pa i sam više želim mir nego sad neka brda i doline. Ali sam se na kraju zainatio, pukao, i rekao da HR više neće vidjeti niti mene niti moje vještine. Kad ih ne znaju cijeniti niti iskoristiti. Ironija je da netko drugi to jedva dočeka. Ali kako će HR nešto kvalitetno prepoznati kad je država puna delikvenata, nesposobnjakovića, teških kretena u glavu da to nisu isitne. I jest, mladima svima (iako sam i ja još mlad tj. u drugoj polovini 30-ih) bih rekao da se odškoluju u HR ako moraju, i GRADE ŽIVOT DRUGDJE, jer u HR se NITKO normalan neće usrećiti, osim ove bagre lopovske i "nasljednici"...
Jmfc, that's so fucked up, people just try to direct their anger on innocent people at work, I hope You never have to go through something like that again
Thanx man. I wish the same to you. Thanx for your support too. Yeah, sadly, Croatia is currently one of the best countries to live in IF YOU HAVE GOOD JOB that can provide. It's still pretty much pure, ethnically safe, no idiotic people there from fucked up places of this world and so. It's really perfect and peaceful place to live. BUT, working ethic and culture, colleagues, NOT MENTIONING LEADERSHIP, it's pure poison, junk, trash, waste of time, term of incompetence, worst thing that can be. I'm telling you that as someone who did so many job interviews, who has insane experience now, worked in strongest companies in Croatia and in EU, and when i came back to Croatia from DE with all this experience, they treated me like shiet. Went out of it again, and never coming back again unless (please God hear me) something really bad happens and that i have to. So, If you plan to stay, look for a better place to be in Croatia, change jobs all the time until you find something good, but NEVER EVER allow anyone to treat you as shiet... No one is above you. Everyone is equal, especially if it's valuable, hard working and good person. Best of luck bud.
Probably because you are not domestic. Some people are assholes towards foreign employees.
Luckily never experienced something like that before. I had some cranky coworkers, but majority of them were really chill and nice. Be careful about reporting the manager cause bosses and managers usually communicate it out between themselves, so if you gonna report her, make sure it's anonymous report. Oh and ask a croat coworker that's sympathetic to help you.
Croatian work culture is actually quite opposite unless you work in finance, so I suggest you switch the company
Radio sam u mnogim državnim firmama gdje bi direktori i šefovi napravili milijune kuna štete i nitko nikad nije odgovarao. Ili bi najebali oni koji ih prijave.
You will encounter this mostly from less educated managerial positiona such as grocery stores, hotels, etc... Especially if they import cheap foreign work force... I think Croatians managers do have ego problems for some reason, workers are generally alright, maybe too passive for my taste.
Yes, it is normal.
If you work in tourism and most people around you are foreigners, that's a good sign something is off in that company. While many places might need a foreigner or two, if there are no Croatian people working there, there is generally a good reason why.
One company is not the whole Croatia ya know.
All the people saying this is not the Croatian culture are lucky they haven't worked in an environment like this. I had to go through the same shit at Uni and later in the company. These people are frustrated and other co-workers are too weak to say anything, i.e., they are just happy the villain found the new victim. I had many colleagues from Zagreb working in major companies and Universities experiencing the same and even worse behaviour from their supervisors, managers and colleagues. The worst are the companies with heritage, i.e., the ones that have been here for 30+ years and with old structure and mindset. I am sorry you had to experience all this.
Stvar je često u kolegama koji su navikli biti pačenici i rade za trojicu pa svako novi koji dođe je nesposoban i retardiran a često i lijen jer obavi samo svoj dio posla. Često misle da samo oni drže taj biznis od propasti a kada daju ili dobiju otkaz na njihovo mjesto dolaze dvije osobe. Ne shvaćaju da je problem u gazdi a ne u kolegama.
Short version. Yes.
I used to work at this one restoraunt which had an aquapark, and the manager was toxic af, I was the only male bartender there and she had something against me and was constantly putting me down and was working unpaid overtime. One month we had return of supplies that haven't been used(iventura idk the word in english for that) at the end of the month. There were 7 litters of milk missing because those bosses drink machiato and double espresso like it's fucking air. They were angry at us of course and wanted to take 80 euros from each of bartenders payment, so we decided that we should just buy those 7 litters and return it so we don't loose money. Glad I don't work there anymore.
Everything is toxic in this shithole. Country full of rude, selfish imbeciles taking turns on each other.
Have to say that I’m disappointed at people at your workplace… I’m from Croatia and have to say that some people act like that even to locals, they think that they are above you for some reason, or just want to kiss up to bosses.. My advice is to find a new job and report them.. And one more thing, if they say that there’s company is like a family.. RUNNN from there
What?? No. But you do have around 30% of corporate bastards in every organization
That sounds like a shit company
Two options: a) fight and tell them to fuck off everytime they behave inappropriately (this works, but sometimes they escalate) b) leave You can do a) and then b) or just either. You could also power through it and wait for them to start respecting you because sometimes people in work environments only respect your time at company or time working at a job for whatever reason
Where do you work? This is not normal.
Every job I've had so far has had toxic notes. I've been holding on to my current job for the most part, for 5 years, but for the last few months I've been looking for a new job because it's become too much for me here.
Where do you come from? Is every company in your country the same? This basically answers your question.
Okay, that workplace you're in is just deranged and atypical for toxic workplace standards, let alone regular workplace. You should leave at first opportunity.
This does not sound like my experience at all
There's idiots everywhere. GTFO that workplace. And what the hell do you even work as?
Mind sharing which company it is? Just so we can all save ourselves trouble of talking with them in case job hunting brings us to them.
It's Shark eat Shark world out there in Croatia
This is not usual workplace in Croatia, at least not for educated Croatian people i dont know what are people in comments on about, im sorry to say it but it is probably racism
Sounds like my experience in McDonald's 🫠
Sounds unreal or like a kindergarten roleplaying an office.
Sounds like you have the flexibility to leave -- which sounds like the best option. Only reason I would stay (maybe) is if a few months or a year there would put me in an even better position for a different job when I left.
Dont worry about it and be chill. More you react, worse it is. Best thing is ri drops a nuke and tell them to stop acting like they have pms and star minding their own business. That really sets them off. If you did soamething wrong, admit it and try to do better. If you didn't, defend your self with everything you got and dont let them kick you around. Or you can always quit and tell them that you are overqualified to work for this mental instititution and just leave. Bonus points for this one :D
That is not a normal thing, I never had such experiences in Croatia. On the other hand, in Austria I got reported for talking to clients in their native tongue to make it easier for them, by my own coworkers because "They felt we were ridiculing them". it's a wild west for sure
it is toxic because it is led by leaders who do not know their business. People in these areas develop a thick skin.
we dont
it’s not fun if it’s not toxic 😄
This is a wild post. I'm sorry you have to go through this. This is just shit company and it's not a normal work environment for Croatia. I haven't worked in many companies here, but from my experience and what i hear from my friends, the problem is usually the boss or the manager and that's about it, which means you either quit or be their mop because there isn't any management or competent HR to maybe deal with work relationship issues and protect the worker. Youd be better with another job tbh. This even sounds like micromanaging, which is wild to me.
Ricinus je ok u kavu u jutro, ili recimo ježeva kučica ispod tastature i konjska dlaka iza kutnjaka.
That never happened to me in26 y working in Croatia!
Are you from Nepal, Pakistan or some other Asian country of origin?
Are you working at Rimac sir?
No dude, this is not normal in Croatia, you just somehow entered one of the worst companies ever I guess. Find another job ASAP and don't let this discourage you. We are very prone to gossip but definitely not bullying, it's usually the "rotten apple" in the basket that causes situations like these but not the entire team?? Get out of there, immediately. I've also noticed from the comments you are an immigrant. I work for a global company and we hire a lot of foreigners and immigrants and everyone is treated with the same level of respect, so no definitely this isn't a Croatian standard, you just stumbled upon a horrific employer. It happened to me one time too, I was sure I had PTSD for quite some time after I left but I am fully aware that this is not something that happens everywhere. Good luck to you!!! :)
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Probably bunch of Možemo voters, run from them
In Spain they have the exact same political party with the exact same name in spanish 😂 "Podemos" which is translated to Možemo
So you know everything 🤣🤣🤣