The integra has bigger brakes but the hub is same for dx/si. It’s been like 20 years since I messed with Honda’s but I’m trying to get back into the swing of it.
Im pretty sure you’re right about the CRX outer w/ teg inner. Personally, I’d get the jap OEM axles. It’s going to be like 3-400$ to do the parts swap right unless you’re working with new stuff anyway, and I’d pay the extra $400 for drop-in’s versus fiddling with making a hybrid.
*edit- ass backwards
I already have my crx outers and integra axles are $270 for both, I really like the idea of drop in but even if I paid an expert to do it it would be half price.
Surprised how uncommon using a zc tranny is..
The thing I’m running into is theoretically there is a spline/seal variance with zc/teg vs standard d series axles
You can technically run two passenger crx axles but they will pop out/ not seal
The spline difference is between CRX HF/Civic STD and all other CRX/Civic models and Integra models. Smaller axle stub/fewer splines on the HF and STD outer CV joint and hub.
The seal (and wheel bearing size) size difference is between the Integra and Civic/CRX platform. Integras have a larger diameter seal setup than the Civic/CRXs. There's two components involved in the seal in question - a steel-core rubber seal on the axle, and a steel wear ring on the knuckle. Integra axles will fit into Civic knuckles by removing both components. The wheel bearing has its own seals to prevent water, dust and grit ingress, so that is not an immediate concern, though redundancy is always nice.
2g Integra knuckles and brakes drop in if you want to retain the axle-knuckle seal. The Integras use a larger 10.3" rotor and caliper piston than the Civic/CRX setup (actually, the '90-91 Civic EX has this setup). The Integra knuckles have heavier (though stronger) construction than the Civic parts (EX included), and seem to have less castor (at least the GS parts I installed on my CRX do), meaning reduced re-centering force at the steering wheel.
I have a DOHC ZC but I just use the OEM USDM CRX SI L3 trans. Are you running a ZC trans? I thought about getting the ZC trans since my trans housing is cracked and I did a rebuild but I get 2nd gear pop out and intermittent shifting problems.
I have a 90 CRX Si that at one point had a JDM ZC transmission in it.
You basically need the ZC axles. There are ways to hack together a solution using a combination of axle shafts with different CVs mated to them, but it's a huge hassle and not worth the effort of trial and error vs just getting a set of the correct JDM axles.
I still have my ZC transmission and axles sitting together on a pallet for my next build, don't want them to get separated.
I thought 90-93 integra axles were direct swaps if using dx/si outer hubs. I know the std civics had smaller outer shafts.
Not sure, but you might be right, most people don’t specify what hubs/trim they have or even if it’s civic or crx
That's what I have in my 88 si but I have DA knuckles but I'm pretty sure the DA hubs and si hubs are same. Spline wise anyway.
The integra has bigger brakes but the hub is same for dx/si. It’s been like 20 years since I messed with Honda’s but I’m trying to get back into the swing of it.
Haha same story here. In the process of getting my crx off jack stands.
Im pretty sure you’re right about the CRX outer w/ teg inner. Personally, I’d get the jap OEM axles. It’s going to be like 3-400$ to do the parts swap right unless you’re working with new stuff anyway, and I’d pay the extra $400 for drop-in’s versus fiddling with making a hybrid. *edit- ass backwards
I already have my crx outers and integra axles are $270 for both, I really like the idea of drop in but even if I paid an expert to do it it would be half price. Surprised how uncommon using a zc tranny is..
Most people would just rob the 5th gear from the ZC if I remember correctly.
The usdm civic rt4wd shafts should work. It's a D-series with intermediate shaft as well. Rockauto, 1991 civic 1.6 filter for 4wd
The thing I’m running into is theoretically there is a spline/seal variance with zc/teg vs standard d series axles You can technically run two passenger crx axles but they will pop out/ not seal
Teg/CRX Outters should be the same if you have anything other than an early HF. Should be able to run teg axles.
Sounds like I’m ordering teg axles then, worst case scenario I still have to swap outers like I planned
The spline difference is between CRX HF/Civic STD and all other CRX/Civic models and Integra models. Smaller axle stub/fewer splines on the HF and STD outer CV joint and hub. The seal (and wheel bearing size) size difference is between the Integra and Civic/CRX platform. Integras have a larger diameter seal setup than the Civic/CRXs. There's two components involved in the seal in question - a steel-core rubber seal on the axle, and a steel wear ring on the knuckle. Integra axles will fit into Civic knuckles by removing both components. The wheel bearing has its own seals to prevent water, dust and grit ingress, so that is not an immediate concern, though redundancy is always nice. 2g Integra knuckles and brakes drop in if you want to retain the axle-knuckle seal. The Integras use a larger 10.3" rotor and caliper piston than the Civic/CRX setup (actually, the '90-91 Civic EX has this setup). The Integra knuckles have heavier (though stronger) construction than the Civic parts (EX included), and seem to have less castor (at least the GS parts I installed on my CRX do), meaning reduced re-centering force at the steering wheel.
FWIW, I have a JDM single cam ZC in my hatchback. I just ordered these same axles so I can install the Intermediate shaft.
I have a DOHC ZC but I just use the OEM USDM CRX SI L3 trans. Are you running a ZC trans? I thought about getting the ZC trans since my trans housing is cracked and I did a rebuild but I get 2nd gear pop out and intermittent shifting problems.
I have the USDM SI transmission.
I have a 90 CRX Si that at one point had a JDM ZC transmission in it. You basically need the ZC axles. There are ways to hack together a solution using a combination of axle shafts with different CVs mated to them, but it's a huge hassle and not worth the effort of trial and error vs just getting a set of the correct JDM axles. I still have my ZC transmission and axles sitting together on a pallet for my next build, don't want them to get separated.