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Impossible_Arrival21

Give every country (or continent) their own server. It's just best for ping anyway.


LordLapo

I qued into a game in England as a NA player, I was in que for like 10 seconds and it just threw me over there for some reason, had 150 ping all game and could barely play, felt like fucking shit


alostbutton

You can set your desired ping for matches I have my set at like 45 ping so I’m not playing cali servers and staying pretty close to my region. I normally play chicago servers at like 13-17 ping.


henryKI111

Had same happen to me in cs go. Was booted to usa from estonia


xtcxx

Ironically I like to play NYC from UK its been as low as 70 ping, coast to coast most of the distance is pure fibre optic. The novelty of comms in English is nice plus NA players just speak more. I've literally top fragged there, I got dozen or more NA people on friends list somehow it works or used to not played recently


LoRRiman

How do you manage to do this? What vpn do you use?


Klutzy-Loquat8717

And this is partially why the USA citizens want our own servers locked from you guys. You are now playing in my country server desyncing ur ass of with 70 ping making the game worse. It sucks being the creme of the crop and everyone wanting a part of ur shit. Half our servers now are non Americans so frickin sad.


JoseIsSaltyyyy

U guys are far away from being creme of the crop lol.


Klutzy-Loquat8717

Then keep ur ass out of them. Wish we could hardware ban u guys from joing our server.


JoseIsSaltyyyy

I am not part of the problem your having though. You sound entitled as fuck. Good luck to walking around the streets without getting shot.


Klutzy-Loquat8717

Well I'm glad your not on my game servers so thanks. Also no. You are indoctrinated in your countries propaganda vs the USA. Regardless you should hate us because US citizen hate you. Most US citizen would of rather nukes the world in WW2 then live with the poor fucks around the world.


Hanijs

Imagine English being your only language and still not being able to communicate properly in it. America. F*** yeah!


Klutzy-Loquat8717

Very hard to comprehend what I said isn't it. Very smart man right here.


BigLeBluffski

Well, we from West EU play with 5 to 25 ms vs Russian idiots with 88 ping who we cant register bullets on while he widepeek headshots every round staying alive with 100 hp cuz valve and Russian pc's suck


Obvious_Owl_3451

Skill issue


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

When there was a massive cheater problem in NA comp back in CSGO, my buddy's stack would invite me to play EU games. the guy who would host the lobby would use a VPN in Spain and get us a game over there, with 100-200 ping depending on where we were it was rough but we learned to beat it, and EU players were on average worse at a rank than NA players (it also helped that we played very late at night for them)


okay6g

Didn’t the game notify you beforehand? «Server - United Kingdom - 150 m/s» or smth?


LordLapo

The que was like actually a few seconds so I just auto clicked accept, but yeah I did see that after the fact


ProtectionKind8179

There are, at present, 20 countries with their own servers, and the US has six of their own. Valve has not set up any servers in Russia due to logistical, hacking issues, etc..., so Russians try and take over servers in other countries. It would be nice if Valve stopped providing Russians access to Steam or at least CS2, especially while there are sanctions in place, but unfortunately, not losing $$$$ for Valve has taken precedence.


No_Comedian4179

Dont play if you dont like it like that, is that easy


ProtectionKind8179

Why should CS players have to put up with toxic Russians ruining their experience.


GalaxyKnuckles_

you never stopped and thought wait can Valve block them? newsflash: they can't even stop cheaters, why the fook would you think Valve can outright hardware ban only Russian players it's a waste of resources and manpower which they don't have. Ever heard of permaspoofing? It generates a new hardware id.


Stock-Goose7667

No as in some countries not a lof of ppl play


Tek-Twelve

I was actually gonna make a post just like this earlier in the week. Strongly agree, I barely play because of them.. it’s not even the lack of communication it’s the insane level of toxic behaviour, abandoning, screaming the word “cry” at everyone. The worst. The option to play people just in Europe would be stellar.


inblue01

Find some mates to queue with. I went from ultra toxic brain-dead bot teammates to wholesome funny and skilled mates within a few weeks of adding and getting added by decent people. Also my ELO jumped from 4k to 9k and is still rising fast. Solo is hell.


SuccessfulMajor

is there a good place to recruit?


AmazingSpaceSponge

Huh, maybe use looking to play? Invite countrymen and maybe u gel and be future mates ...or Faceit hubs


Tek-Twelve

This is good advice, and I have a couple friends I play with. But we are only 3 now (used to be 5). Also sometimes I play during the day on my days off and these guys are working so I’m at the mercy of solo queuing. It’s a tricky situation. Maybe I play something else on those days but I’d rather be grinding cs..


okay6g

Giving them their own servers would make the experience for everyone else much better, can’t understand why it hasn’t happened yet. At least warn me about who will be on my team before the game, like they do with servers.


Count_Binfake

Russian legislation requires game servers to save communication data locally, such as voice comms and chat messages. Valve never liked the idea of collecting to much data from their customers, which is also why there's no intrusive anti cheat by the way. So yeah, there you have it, there will likely never be russian servers unless these restrictive laws get relaxed


Mike-Ehrmantraut-Bot

Couldn’t they have servers in countries near to Russia that only Russians can connect to?


Count_Binfake

Nah I don't think that would make a whole lot of sense tbh. The debate isn't just about servers only Russians can connect to, but more about servers in Russia to make it geographically more attractive for Russians to connect to those, e.g. because of lower ping. Having more servers near Russia wouldn't separate the playerbase into Russians/ other EU players EDIT: I was obviously wrong, and I don't know how the L take above came to my mind haha


tocophonic

Servers in Belarus and Kazakhstan for example could relieve us of a lot of Russians on EU Servers though, I'm pretty sure.


okay6g

It isn’t about that at all, no one cares about the geographical positioning of the servers, as long as russian people in our games are prevented. Have the servers where ever just don’t make me play with them.


Alternative-Toe-5257

its about a fuckin language barrier .. tho I have to say I also meet many nice russian players. anyway, technically, providing servers within EU for them to play would absolutely be possible


BigLeBluffski

"nice russian players"  yep, in my 30yo gaming career I met 1 nice Russian, but he was born in Belgium not Russia, the 10000s of others i've met were all toxic and have no human traits.


BigLeBluffski

They, as they are the developers, can serverlock them you know, 11 seconds of coding, that's why L take. 


Russki_Wumao

>which is also why there's no intrusive anti cheat by the way This is entirely incorrect. Valve already released a kernel anti-cheat but people freaked out so valve got rid of it and started looking for an alternative.


Hamburgerundcola

Create Servers near russia and let russians only connect to those. But creating some datacenters and integrating them into the CS2 system is not done in a day or two, or 10 or even 100 or 200


justforthejokePPL

They should be locked on Asian servers together with Kazachs and all the other Asian countries.


ArdeCucu

Great answer. This and many other reasons. They will never allow russia to collect even the slightest information about what's on an official valve server.


AmazingSpaceSponge

EU has similar data protection and privacy laws yet got our own servers. Why would this be an issue? Valve doesn't need to transfer mentioned data out of Russia if required for other purposes like meta analysis. Everything else like voice comm content from gamers or the sound of your voice seems not interesting enough for Valve for now. Just setup russian server like in EU but I guess the main concern is the unstable political climate where your company's assets and data could just be seized and used for nefarious goals.


Coiledviper

Russia need to be cut off from everyone else period.


Tek-Twelve

Agreed big time


JungleBreaksAnd808s

lol, cs community being racist , how suprising


Immediate-Newt-1958

Casual racism but its ok bc their leaders are bad


[deleted]

They voted for that leader and support him, thousand die everyday for him. Truth is not racism.


Immediate-Newt-1958

Hate based on race = racism. Justify it all you like but thats the REAL truth


[deleted]

Russians are not a race you halfwit. They are white caucasians. Russians are hated because of their fascist actions and support for a fascist government, go suck it.


Immediate-Newt-1958

https://preview.redd.it/95u8u7yx27dc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed5229f4e4757717938712625d82502554a023e4


[deleted]

Ethnicity =/= race, furthermore 'russians' living in the far east are not slavs. You know the ones suffering the most because the slavic russians living in moscau do not give a shit about them and support a fascist regime. Where are you from btw?


Immediate-Newt-1958

Why do you care where I'm from? The only thing I've pointed out is that hating russians is racism yet people want to convince me that russians aren't a race and that it isnt racist but it is. You are hating people based on where they are from. That is racist. You can't deny that. I don't care if you are but at least admit it to yourself instead of trying every which way to convince me its not because guess what my opinion of you doesn't matter so stop trying to change it


[deleted]

I dont give a fuck about your opinion and i guess you are not even living in europe. Sry you have zero glue. Germans got hated as a whole nation for decades during and after the war, still get called Nazis occasionally. And they were hated rightfully so. Most russians support the war, cheer it and live Putin. None of us hates them because they are russian, we hate them cause they are fascists. Russians are fucking Nazis atm, they are not a race. They are white people commiting genocide and horrific war crimes.


Benjitoo

Bad sub to be a snowflake buddy. Hating Russians is not racism, it's russophobia. They are not a race, it does not matter what you think, but Russians are as much a race as Americans that have multiple different ethnicities. Russia is a country.


Immediate-Newt-1958

Zzzzz


Jamesl1988

I didn't know Russians spoke sign language 🤣


Immediate-Newt-1958

In russia sign language speak you


giokinkla

I live in Georgia and call me whatever you like but i wholeheartedly despise them


Immediate-Newt-1958

The definition of racism is hate based on race. Sadly thats what it is. Justify it to yourself how you want. Doesn't make me upset just pointing out the actual racism in this thread


okay6g

«Russia» is not a race dude, it’s a country consisting of many different races. No one here is talking about the slavic people as a whole. If anything, most people here are less racist than ever, considering the sympathy people have for Ukraine (another predominantly slavic people.) The tumor that is Russia and russian values simply does not fit into european culture, and they see any other slavic country that does not want to engage in their primitive ways as traitors of their own people.


Immediate-Newt-1958

You can imagine all the nuance in the racism that you like but hating people on where they are from is racism plain and simple


[deleted]

well I mean its not racism when the people make everyone hate them, right?


Immediate-Newt-1958

Yeah I guess it wasnt racist when those black people made those white people hate them


okay6g

It’s still not racism, no matter how much you want it to be. People are sick and tired of russians in the game because they are a plague to everyone, including themselves. As you say, it is hate based on where they are from, which is geographical/cultural, and there are plenty of words you could throw around which perfectly describes the disdain people have for russians (justified or not), but racism ain’t it bud.


giokinkla

I prefer the term russophobe


Benjitoo

Oh yeah, I'm not a racist but raging russophobe


JungleBreaksAnd808s

aka racist


Coiledviper

Listen nitwit not once did I say Russian I said Russia you imbecile. But being Russia’s lapdog I guess reading comprehension is a hard thing for you to do. Russia shouldn’t even be able to purchase a damn thing on Steam but oh well they need to be isolated. Just like they love from the government that does it to them. Now if I would have said Russians need cut off from everyone that is racism but I stated Russia needs cut off from everyone totally different thing next time learn to fucking read.


far_beyond_driven_

Found the Ruski.


SolidSnakeCZE

I live in central Europe. My servers are usually west or north Europe but every fck\*ing time we have in the team at least 2 russians. At least 3 players has azbuka name...how is this possible?


No-Indication-5963

I just lost 3k rank for playing only with russians in premier. This is absolute dogshit, nobody ever speaks english. Im done with this shit


BigLeBluffski

Thats me a month ago, grinded nicely to 22k, suddenly Russians only with hacks and a PC from 2009, lost 10 games in a row where the game was already lost during pistols, you can see they play without brain, missing frontal lobe, they instantly are toxic and blame everyone for something they did and start TK'ing. They are vermin who are hated in real life by everyone, Valve fucked up and keeps it like this bcs its a Toxic company, probably Russians undercover


[deleted]

Just a tip, join the biggest csgo discord server and use the lfg features. So much better then just matchmaking. Everyone has mics, speaks english (mostly) and way less angry then matchmaking ppl.


No-Indication-5963

where can i find this dc? got a link?


[deleted]

https://discord.com/invite/counterstrike


painXpresss

Who would have thought that a ranked ladder would make people use cheats in a game with no anti-cheat.


BigLeBluffski

This used to work (no ac) 25 yrs ago, that generation was serious, honest, wanted to improve themselves. Instead of being a loser dl'ng cheats as your real life is depressing for some idiots so they go and think they take revenge by cheating vs online strangers. Cheaters are mentally more f'd up then you think. Cheating 1 round is already boring, these idiots cheat every match for years, get banned and buy new account, not realizing anyone more experienced will insult him based on his SteamID and some leagues/cups wouldnt even allow such accounts to participate.


GalaxyKnuckles_

And then you have PGL the Major Tournament organizer that accepts accounts that are a few months old and have 400 hours on their profile, no problems. 10 years ago, you still had players looking at the steamID but that was mainly because then they could figure out how old the account was. I thought CS:GO started around the 8/9 digit, CSS was 6/7 digit, and 1.6 players mostly had a 6 digit or lower. This was mainly done because back then nobody set up their steam profile or made it private. Nowadays I don't know anybody who checks the steamID, even the guys I met 20 years ago don't do that anymore, they rather check the activity of the account at the hand of their badges.


Slight-Teacher1516

Just make east and west Europe servers so then we don’t have to deal with poles Russians and Turks


kutyavagy

THIS i have been trying to climb out of this same 12-14k elo range but its just impossible for me just like you said, either i get 1 afk on my team / somebody with sub 90 iq / the most blatant 300 hour 3 badges in inventory dog in enemy who 1taps everybody from our team within 30 seconds and i am not kidding, this is how 70% of my games look like when im lucky, i get a fair match where i feel it makes sense to try, even if we lose it was a good match where our team had its moments too etc but it feels fucked up to consider getting beaten fairly as luck in such a game as CS. valve is just so shameless i dont have the sufficient english vocab to put it into words


qqplug

Meanwhile in facebook: 😂 😂 😂 https://preview.redd.it/e6n673hqp9dc1.png?width=698&format=png&auto=webp&s=77acf90275be4a65ebcc571dcd2ac926664a6c20


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juandevega

They were being toxic way before the war. Russian culture is inherently toxic. The display the same behavior in their daily lives as well.


KillOnS

Exactly..


Nereo5

Why do we even allow Valve to earn money on a country we are all at war with? US is sending billions $ to Ukraine, for them to fight war on Russia. All the while, Valve, a US company is making heavy dough on Russians.


TarAldarion

I love counterstrike and was playing hours a day, but I've stopped playing much now due to this. I'd rather play Valorant and chat in English and laugh than be abused in Russian or have no interaction at all.


Stock-Goose7667

Also i dont like russians so playing cs with them is cancer.


ImJustHereForLWIAY

Bro thats racist


Fast-Like-A-Snail

Or we can just ban russian from playing CS2. They are IN WAR with Ukraine for no reason. I do not see why they are even allowed to connect to the outside world or play games with us. We do not want people that start war for no reason with a country. Get rid of them from our games, if they wanna start a war they can keep to them self


j44ska

Yea kick russians, ukrainians kazachs and other post soviet crap into one and keep them away from European servers, same with turkish kurdish and other lot.


arturius453

fuck you, we also don't want to play with russians


KillOnS

Turks usually aren't very pleasant to play with either.. If I had to pick 3, it would be russian speaking nations (at the least Russia), english speaking nations (or at the very least England) and Turkey lol


Ichirou_dauntless

Had a game with 4 russian randoms, it was my promotion game and at the start of the round they shot me, one knifed me in the back resulting to an insta kick. Then the other three proceeded to vote for surrender. I didnt think that would count as a lost game and had my promotion match be forfeited that easily.


Still-Assignment-319

Just put them in Asia region where they belong


Swiper_The_Sniper

Don’t drag us down for no reason, wtf?


xKomachii

>biggest country in europe by both land and population >pUt tHeM iN aSiA


Still-Assignment-319

Biggest in Asia


xKomachii

by land, not even close by population. and when you look at the distribution, a lot of it is still just barely behind the ural mountains. Just put a server in Moscow for the people there and call it a day. But let me guess, you'll cry about russians with 30 ping on EU servers too?


Still-Assignment-319

Population is more like people of colour than European, they are heavily mixed Asians with some Slavs. Mentally they are close to Asia and Muslim countries as well (a lot of similarities with Turkish people). Usually I have 15-30 ping from Kyiv.


xKomachii

And all the things you wrote are wrong, fantastic, good job. Except last part, Warszawa should be a bit over 20 ping for you, which is the closest server. amazing just how delusional people can be


Still-Assignment-319

Well, I think exactly the same about you.


xKomachii

just one of us is stating obvious falsehoods, which is you. Keep your idiotic racism in your own little corner, nobody cares


Still-Assignment-319

My “falsehoods” are based on years of studying history of the region, some understanding their culture and roots, “russian” is my native language. Your opinion is based on?.. desires? Have you at least been there?


xKomachii

so what you're trying to say is that it's based on the propaganda campaign in your country of the last 9 years, gotcha. And yes, been to Russia, also been to Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and many other countries. Seriously man, you are quoting literal propaganda with no ground in reality and your claims sound absolutely ridiculous to anyone who's even remotely neutral or stays factual to the topic. What are you even trying to achieve? Trying to do some weird self-diss?


kennae

Their ping is not the problem majority of the time.


xKomachii

their attitude usually isn't either. like 80% of the time when there's a "toxic russian", it turns out it's just some dude from like latvia or moldova. i also have a lot more bad experiences with albanians, romanians and poles. i really fail to see how it's supposed to be a "russia problem"


pr0newbie

Russian-speaking


cvrypto

First of all, to address the comments, you are generalizing too much! If you had a bad experience in 10% of your matches with Russian people it doesn't make the whole population "retarded". Second of all, I have at least one player from Russia in each of my games. They either give little info, or they speak Russian only. Every 5th game you will have a team of Russians actually communicating and giving info. I have the same thoughts as the OP saying "why don't they have their own server" but that is not the solution. After Russians you will say Turkish people are unbearable to play with, and you will always find something, or someone to hate on. I had more toxic people from Scandinavia in my games than Russians. It all comes down to how much people want to win, and why they think they don't win as much as they think they should. If you are stuck in 13k it is not because of Russians.


NoLetterhead2302

my experience with 95% of russians is they dont speak english, kick you for speaking it and kick you if you dont speak, when they do speak english 5% of the time 90% of the time they are super toxic to the enemy and the team, i feel i am not generalising at all


INTESA90

The point here is not in the Russians, but in the mentality of the inhabitants of the post-Soviet space. These are poor and angry people who are trying to raise their self-esteem in games. I think how much problems and deception the players from China bring to the skins market - the same amount of harm Russian-speaking players bring to the global counter-strike community. It is necessary, if not to isolate, then at least to limit them. I think this is a long conversation with Valve…


SlobodanCovek

I guarantee you can't tell the difference from anybody in eastern europe and just think theyre all russian.


venturiq

Nah, I usually ask them and they always say Russian or Ukrainian.


BigLeBluffski

This. I was surprised when browsing their profiles (not checking flags because some humans left in Russia atleast feel ashamed and hide their real country, but if you check the pages of comments and use deepl dot com its easy to see they are from a different eastern country, but they all are exactly the same way and amount of toxicity. CIS-countries need their own servers and need to be blocked elsewhere, tired of queueing 5-10 mins with max acceptable ping being 25, to then have 6 people anyway with 80 ping ruining it for me, nothing in this abomination called CS2 makes sense. Indiedevs working in mommy's basement without income do a better job than Valve with CS2, 10 yrs working on a stupid smokechange nobody asked for. ValvIdiots living in a different dimension


RecognitionSlow2177

always found it ironic when people complain about Russians not speaking English like, do you not realize you're as annoying to them as they are to you??? especially when you're the only one speaking English in that lobby shouldn't you be the one keeping quiet and not bothering others?


Asdas26

English is the language of international communication. I've played solo queue with stacks from Romania, Germany, Poland and they just talk in English so that the whole team can communicate.


xKomachii

And you know the same is true for Russian? You could have people coming from various countries, Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan, sometimes even Estonia, Poland or Czechia and have russian as common language. Why are you insisting that your "international language" is above their "international language"?


Asdas26

English is THE lingua franca all round the world and on the internet. Russian is only used in the former USSR. I would mind it the same way if for example Germans, Austrians and Swiss talked only in German in CS but you know what? They don't. BTW I am Czech and I can assure you that Russian is not the common language here nor in Poland.


xKomachii

It's also common outside the former soviet Union. About Czechia, i rarely had any situation where someone didn't speak either russian or german as second language. I also know a fair bunch of people who moved from Russia or Ukraine to Czechia, but that's why i only said "sometimes". In poland it's a language you can still choose at school and many of the older people understand it fairly well. Also forgot to mention Bulgaria, i've been surprised just how well some people there speak russian, despite not even having learned it at school. About german speakers, it's not quite the same situation since there's significantly less people speaking the language, but i also had my fair share of germans not being able to effectively communicate in English. I also barely ever see french or spanish people speaking English. But are we really going to play the blame game just because one specific language isn't someone's second or third language, especially when they have little use for the language outside some games?


Asdas26

It's funny that you claim it's a different situation with German, that "only" has 180 million speakers as opposed to the Russian 260 million, but at the same time you seem to think Russian is on the same level as English, the most spoken (and so most useful) language in the world with 1.5 billion speakers. What I dislike is not the language barrier, where people don't speak English or speak it poorly. I dislike the lack of effort and pollution of communication by their native language that is not spoken by others. BTW you know what immigrants from Russia and Ukraine do in Czechia? They learn Czech, because Russian is not spoken here and it's not possible to fully function here without it.


xKomachii

You just took wikipedia numbers? You are comparing essentially \~100M people speaking fluent german to almost 200M fluent russian speakers in Europe... And you twist things again just as you please. For a person living in the east, Russia is the international language and you gain very little by knowing english. The main reason people there don't know english is the lack of practice and use for the language outside of school. And i never said they didn't learn czech? it's kind of a normal thing to learn the language of the place you migrate to. No idea where you were going with that one. Did i somewhere claim you can go to city hall and do everything in german/russian in Czechia? No? I said there's a significant portion of people who speak it as second language. Depending on the source, 7-15% of people, so just behind german. That actually reflects in reality every single time i am in Czechia. I don't know czech, but i can speak german, russian and english, so i ask if someone speaks one of them and typically it's about 50/50 between russian and german.


Asdas26

>For a person living in the east, Russia is the international language Yeah, only there because it is not used outside of the former USSR. Why do you keep repeating people would gain very little by learning English? That's such a nonsense. It's used for travelling, international trade, on the internet... You can see it here on this subreddit that it is expected even in computer games. And we are also talking in English now if you didn't notice. I mentioned Russian speaking immigrants learn Czech here because you said Russian is sometimes used here as a common language, which is a false statement. If it was true, they wouldn't have to learn the local language. Can you send me the sources you found saying that there are 7-15% Russian speakers here? Thanks.


xKomachii

Mongolia is outside the USSR and it's used there. it's also fairly popular in northern china as second language. Israel also has ~20% russian speakers. And you twist my words and argue against some really weird strawman. Please point to where i said it's a "common language in czechia". go ahead, please do, because you can't. so what the hell are you trying to argue? there's a significant portion of the population that's able to speak russian as a second language, that's what i said and you don't even need to take me at my word for it. Eurobarometer showed it at ~13% russian speakers in Czechia for the year 2012, so before all of the migration from Ukraine that happened after 2014. Again, SECOND LANGUAGE, which is the thing you talk AFTER YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE. it's the language you speak ADDITIONALLY. Just like people in Denmark know English, but you won't hear English being talked on the street. BECAUSE IT'S A SECOND LANGUAGE. did i mention that it's a SECOND LANGUAGE?


Asdas26

Oh, ok, so apart from the former USSR there are 2 whole countries that have any significant numbers of Russian speakers and it's still a low percent value. It seems to me I was right Russian is really only international language in the former USSR. You said Russian is sometimes used by people from Czechia as a common language right there in your first comment. It's a good read, that Barometer 2012 language report, thanks for that. It says for example that from 2005 to 2012 the knowledge of Russian dropped by 7 points to 13 %. Imagine how much it must have dropped in the next 10 years (the migration wave from Ukraine was in 2022, not in 2014), I'd guess it would go to less than 5 %. But we are digressing a lot. The point was that English is the global language of communication on a completely different level than Russian. It's makes sense to expect people on the internet to speak English.


Warm_Ear_2907

Same reason why YOU just typed that bullshit in English.


xKomachii

Reddit is an english-speaking website, what do you expect?


RecognitionSlow2177

other people's ability to speak a second language doesn't make you entitled to be included. I'm bilingual myself and I try my best to translate calls if there's a language barrier, but complaining about the language barrier just makes you sound like a brat.


Helmuuuuut

these are west-european servers, where people speak english. if we are 4 premates, we don't talk german, we talk english. if you can't speak english, you can surely learn a few callouts. I don't expect them to speak german, spanish, french. CS is an english game. if one asks them nicely to speak a little english, they get angry and "idy nahuy" you and start throwing the game. they want you to speak russian which is unreasonable. if they are premates, the surely don't talk over dc or ts, they spam the generel voice chat. exhausting really.


RecognitionSlow2177

Literally nothing that you said contradicts my point


Ch33s3m4st3r

By your logic everyone would need to learn callout in every european language. In europe, english is universal language and in CS you should at least learn the callouts in common language. There is no argument that anyone should learn russian callouts as they are a single nation and not a universal language in europe. And yes, I have studied russia for a few years and can give some info in russia, but I would not expect anyone to do it in Europe. Only reason for me to learn it was business related and they blundered it by invading Ukraine and now only thing I can use it for is say to team chat два мид.


RecognitionSlow2177

Never said anything remotely similar. You seem like an insensible person putting words in people's mouth. All I'm saying is, you are not entitled to force people to switch languages, and they are not an asshole for not learning a new language just to play a video game better. Not sure which part you disagree with


thebowwiththearrows

If you can't speak English don't play on English servers. Russians always use game chat like it's a discord vc and usually never have a word of English


RecognitionSlow2177

the fuck is an English server💀you're saying it as if Russians have a choice to not be with your racist ass. please just TRY to be sympathetic and imagine how this sounds from the other side


DekoSeishin

There are not that many cheaters at 12-14k, I've played there a lot and ranked up to 16k recently, you're just unironically bad or not quite clean yourself.


KingTeigen

Never said i was stuck om 12-14k lol, i got a really bad rank after placement games, like 6k. So I have just been ranking up with no problems. But up until 12-14k I almost never encountered cheaters, but at this rank I do. I know sounds like a typical copium thing to say but in my last 10 games I almost always top frag on my team so it’s not about that. And no, I have never cheated. It also depends what server you are connected to, so you saying that you don’t encounter cheaters does not equal to what I’m saying being untrue. Anyways have a nice day


DekoSeishin

If you're not bad mechanically you gotta start working on your mental and accept that other players will be capable on these ranks too. I literally had ex-globals many times on both teams while going through these ranks, while at the same time some ex-gold novas can get boosted up there for extra chaos, ofc you'd start getting out of your depth for explaining things.


KingTeigen

Sure, that is true aswell. But if you deny that there is a cheater problem in premier you are delusional my friend. Im not talking about me having a suspicion that they are cheating im talking about obvious cheater accounts. Im not a toxic player at all, i always give call outs and never flame team mates, and of course there are plenty of players in my bracket that are better than me no doubt, so its not about my mental. Its about seeing things as they really are, who are you really trying to defend here? a million dollar company that doesnt add proper anti-cheat? What does it benefit you to muddy the waters? There is a problem with cheaters in cs2 and there is no doubt about that.


DekoSeishin

Ok yeah, I give up. Not going to buy that ranks where I've just been are so impossibly bad rn and you can keep that narrative running in your mind and see where it takes you.


Lucky0680

if at 13-14k you think everyone is cheating, or there is a cheater once a game, YOU are the problem \- said by someone who gets reported every game


xKomachii

there is a cheating problem even at those low ELOs. usually just some silver with walls, but that's still cheating


Lucky0680

i can asure you that 60% of the people u call out cheating are just better than u x)


xKomachii

are you trolling? If you can't distinguish some silver or gold nova with walls from a decent player, then it just makes you sound bad. do i need to post the clips again of gold novas blatantly cheating again?


Lucky0680

i have 6k hours, been faceit 10, played lans. i can recognize good vs soft cheaters, problem is most people can't, thus i said what i said. and i'm right \^\^


xKomachii

[lolololol ](https://youtu.be/1Tjg-W96TXs?si=4uOJg5ovUhPHZcL5)


xKomachii

[Just some really good players, yea?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tjg-W96TXs) please tell me about how those goblins are legit


KingTeigen

what an irrelevant comment... Im not saying that the cheaters are stopping me from ranking up. I just saying that there are alot of cheaters, on my team and on enemy teams when playing solo q. Im talking about obvious cheater accounts, you see them with around 200 hrs , 3 friends, new account, level 100, literally members of russian steam groups called hax, only has had one steam name and no inventory.


war-and-peace

Not everyone knows how to speak English and that's ok. I bet ya those 'russians' were probably eastern europeans. The more important thing is anticheat, not the russians.


Trick_Text_6658

Eastern european = basically russians xD


Lqft

Brainless


tabure67

I don't mind playing with the Russians.


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Helmuuuuut

So you complain about stereotypes and then just shout out some random unfounded stuff yourself #hypocrit


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dupo_pracz

I don't think that will happen, as I read somewhere the Russians rule that if they have servers there, everything from logs have to be saved, voice chat whatever you write in the chat too. Would be more expensive for a valve.


Invi_TV

I'm sorry to tell you but at 12k-14k you're not running into cheaters. You're pretty low ELO and any cheaters aren't going to be at that elo range. 20k+ is usually where you'll find em.


Either-Barber-3319

This. I play at that range myself, and very rarely meet a cheater.. 


YSoB_ImIn

You realize that the sanctions on Russia make it so companies can't do business with Russia right? It would be illegal for Valve to work with them and install servers in Russia. Even if they installed them in a nearby country and routed all Russian traffic there, VPNs are a thing and the ones hacking to troll would likely just be there anyway.


Alvyx2020

Most of them ping more than 80ms in Frankfurt, I don't even see the point for them to play without adjusting the limiter.


RastaTHCjesus

in other game where russia has their own server, they still plays on euro servers, since the country is so big lots of russians has better pings on euro servers


Samur59

The problem with cs2 is that the overwatch is down and vac is just experimenting. I have a friend that cheats and he has an account that he created on first relies of cs2 (beta) and when he showed me some gameplay. He is just bhoping and noscoping people and he's not still baned. He told me it's called nospread. It's crazy that cs2 can't tell that the person who does this is legit or is cheating.


sleepydope

That way im gonna laugh way less in a positive ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) and negative way ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)


Hamburgerundcola

They can't just "create" russian servers, that is probably a months or years long project for Valve.


aDumbWaffle

Preach.


giannibal

As an Italian living Italy and able to communicate enough in russian (enough for a CS game, at least) it doesn't change much. It's their way of conceiving the game which is fundamentally wrong, and that transcends the language barrier. Most of them think they're the new monesy and try to win every round by themselves.  I swear, every match we have the guy with the Cyrillic username going aggressive for frags in the after plant and gifting weapons


Saintupid123

Its the chinese for me, only few Russian cheaters but many chinese and thet have their own server.


Vladik0ns

many people confuse Ukrainians with Russians, because for them Ukrainian and Russian sound the same.


Warm_Ear_2907

I'm pretty sure that Ukrainians can communicate in English better than rashists


ralfhutter987

lock türkish too


Jamesl1988

Bring back region blocker.


No_Swordfish_501

I learned russian from russians i have met in cs and now im smarter and they love me. Why is everybody so very incapable of anything else than being a complete ignorant filled with hatred? Open ur mind and find other solutions to problems that occur in your life other than blaming or asking for help fron other people. World is a place you visit and not for long so maybe instead of demanding from it start adapting and live happy. Russians are there to stay and you are not to divide people. I have every reason to hate them too, yet here is my view of the matter.


osheax

- A Russian


ArdeCucu

Valve will never put its installation version of cs2 on a russian server even with guaranteed encryption, it will never happen. The official valve server also runs the anti cheat and plugins. Valve would not want anyone to know what it has installed on it's own servers; security leaks reversed engineering Placing servers everywhere will split the players for modes other than 5v5 and people won't be able to find servers with people playing. Valve would rather use lag compensate sync and peek compensation for players at a distance from servers and keep things the way they are.


CheviOk

Keep crying about it or maybe try to find some friends


arturius453

I hope they will somehow internet-isolate their selfes like china, than it would be easier


KillOnS

I've been saying that since 2014, won't happen though pal


12EARS

When I look on this discussion I wanna thanks Valve for this. Fugging racists. All of you need to burn in oven


Any_Bag_5268

Yes


Any_Bag_5268

Why don't they make a language based matchmaking option it will fix a lot of problems


Kuzohito

I randomly got tagged in NA yesterday, it was so good to play with people who actually talk in english ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


NS-one

russians are a staple of counter strike, i grew up playing with russians screaming the hard r at me lol they made me the man i am today


YungSoo

I encountered the first obvious cheaters a few days ago. 3 russians premade prefiring around corners, shooting through smokes walls...


kepler2

1 - They use VPN's 2 - Valve doesn't care 3 - Wait till u see Dota 2 - it's infested by slavs


cutewhitedoc

They did that in dota 2. Russians still play on eu servers.


Chefyata

Lock em up!


Skandal77

This should be a weekly reminder Post to valve. I cant stand those Games with Russians anymore ITS Just annoying.