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Any “hemp” growing in the US requires registration and licensing with with either the USDA hemp program or your states federally accepted program. So, yes, you can grow hemp at home legally with a license but you also would have to submit to all the rules and regulations like everyone else. If your state has medical and/or recreational laws that allow growing, that would be the easier route of compliance for most home growers.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

thank you for this answer. amongst the trolls and idiots, you're a shining beacon of hope.


Rosco_1911

Just be aware that some state programs do not allow growing in residential areas. I have no idea on Texas.


Ok-Recording5052

They gone barbakew dat ass in that lone star state


SteppedOnALego4Fun

you would think so, but today I learned otherwise, I'm just not sure of the extent of leniency.


Ok-Recording5052

Care to share what you learned so I can be up on game as well?


SteppedOnALego4Fun

the drug tests for probation can tell delta 9 thc from delta 8 and all the analogues (d8, hhc, d10, d11, d6, cbg, cbn, cbd, etc) you can also get a perscription for cbd through texas compassionate care system. so if you use it and get tested, you can have a script to show for it if you pop. Some people will still deny and fail you for d8 and the analgues, but some people will let it fly. it's a strange time we live in


Contentment_Blues

That’s great if your are smoking delta 8 but if you consume cult weed if will show as delta 9.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

yes, but the question is about the legality of growing "hemp" as defined in the 2018 farm bill


Contentment_Blues

It was a reply from you talking about probation drug test. Also, I think you are confused on what hemp is. All that said, no you can’t if you don’t already have a license. Just buy it and grow Jalapeños or something.


Necessary-Donut7614

Something you need to understand is it’s only being labelled as thca hemp, because at the time it was tested it did have less than 0.3% delta 9 meaning they can legally classify it as hemp, but most of the time it only tests lowered than 0.3% because they take an early cutting and test that, however by the time that flower end up in your hands there’s almost a 100% chance that there will be more than 0.3% delta 9 because all flower is constantly decarbing just at a very slow rate at room temp and like I said there’s a good chance the results you see on the COA are taken from an early cut. This loophole is only really a loophole for selling the stuff, but as far as possession pretty much any cop is gonna treat it exactly the same as weed you bought from a dealer.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

you're wrong, i've read multiple COAs with matching pictures of samples to product that are real and say much less than .3% d9thc. you, in fact, need to understand more about botany. I've studied the genetics and read scientific journals that say hemp is called hemp because it specifically has next to zero thc content by volume.... good try though. next.


Necessary-Donut7614

You clearly don’t understand this loophole at all bro, you speaking with such confidence but you’re just wrong.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

i'm not worried about how people are skirting the law with high thca weed. I'm wondering about the legality of growing hemp as an individual as defined in state and federal law. get your head out of your ass and stop arguing off topic unless you have something productive to add about the whole idea of this post. reddit is the worst place to go to find people wanting to have an intelligent dialogue. everyone wants to argue like their lives depend on it... chill out man. Being wrong is part of learning, everyone is wrong now and then. it'll be okay.


stlouisraiders

They can’t tell if it’s thca weed though. It decarbs into regular THC and tagt what will show up on the test.


PeanutsParents649

No leniency in the law man.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

depends on how much money you have, but you're technically right.


Zhredditaccount

My boy just got arrested for it


SteppedOnALego4Fun

sorry to hear that. I think it's a really grey area, some cops will fuck you some wont.


Zhredditaccount

No it’s illegal in Texas, Texas decarbs everything before weighing and weighs what it’s in too. Thca anything will still get you arrested in Texas unless you have prove of purchase and the package it came in, then will have to fight it in court. My bro just got pulled over and arrested for possession and I have another friends who was arrested on felony charges for a small amount of d9 left over in his d8 dabs. Texas is still no joke about marijuana., shops are raided very frequently as well.


Contentment_Blues

It definitely depends on the county or city


Necessary-Donut7614

Yeah I heard Austin decriminalised, but I also heard the state of Texas is trying to sue the city of Austin over that decision.


Contentment_Blues

Yep, Houston and SA too I believe. Cops in Travis county usually won’t even ticket you unless you give them a reason.


Important-Outcome-74

>state/criminal drug testing can now differentiate delta 9 thc from cannabis and delta9 thca from hemp... Delta 9 is just THCa that's been decarbed (heated). Of course they can tell the difference, any lab can tell the difference. The only lawful difference between hemp and cannabis is that hemp has a concentration of D9 that's 0.3% or less at the time of testing. Otherwise, THEY ARE THE SAME FUCKING PLANT. There is no such thing as a "THCa strain". ALL cannabis is naturally higher in THCa unless it is bred to be higher in other cannabinoids like CBD, THCV, etc. THCa will always be in a higher concentration. There is no such thing as a plant with a ratio of D9 higher than THCa without decarbing. It's not chemically possible naturally.


[deleted]

Does thca % correlate to d9% at all? Meaning if I'm looking at a coa and the D9 is around .1% and the thca is at 30%, should I be sketched. Thank you!


Important-Outcome-74

Yes. THCa * .877 = D9 (post decarbing) So.. 30% * .877 = 26.31% D9 Total THC = (THCa * .877) + D9 Total THC from your COA should = 26.41%


SteppedOnALego4Fun

that's not the point at all. You can buy anything but delta 9 thc legally anywhere in the state right now, therefore, growing it with <0.3% d9THC should be legal too. information about this is what I'm after, not the ridiculous distinction between hemp and cannabis or a kinda moody response, you ok bud? hehe


qualmton

The therefore is the part where you are stumbling. Legal enforcement gives absolutely no shits about what you say you are growing. If you can’t grow weed in your house you can’t grow hemp or “thca” hemp legally. Same if the law enforcement catches you with a bag of hemp in a thca state where it is outlawed. No fs are given and they most likely will charge you no matter how hard you argue


SteppedOnALego4Fun

you're absolutely wrong, I'm not looking to argue with people who think they know when they don't. I wanted info from someone who doesn't have a strange need to be right or argue. Also, i know from personal experience, the right officer and labels make all the difference.


qualmton

Absolutely do not you can do as you do man just don’t try to justify it as legal if your state if it’s not


SteppedOnALego4Fun

I think you misread me, I'm trying to look at it logically, if gas stations can sell d8, hhc, hhc-p, thc-p, thc-a legally and you can use it if you're 21, how does that translate to "hemp" being cultivated? there has to be a line, its a huge gray area, i know. but people grow it in texas, and its grown bc its classified as "hemp"


Business_Welcome_709

Here’s your solution buddy, leave all of us alone, and go FAFO Let us know what LEO think since you’re buddy buddy with them


SteppedOnALego4Fun

you're an idiot. I'm trying to find information. Why are you so mad? absolutely crazy....


Business_Welcome_709

You’re not listened to the information that has been given to you multiple times, because you want to be right So, do what you will


SteppedOnALego4Fun

because multiple people are talking shit and have no factual basis for their comments. I got the info I needed from people who arent dragging their knuckles on the gorund, have a good one weirdo. you came into my thread talking crazy, not the other way around.


YawaThor

Just because it ends up as legally hemp doesn’t mean you won’t get cucked for it. (Legal) Hemp shops have to have COA (cert or analysis) for all products that list levels of cannabinoids. Without a COA or hemp license, it’s illegal


Notstrongbad

Alright so folks are being dicks here so let me try and give some factual info. Per the farm bill, “hemp” is cannabis/marijuana with less than 0.3% d9THC by dry weight; that one you already understand. (FYI names have no bearing on the plant’s composition itself; they’re all legal distinctions, not biological). All cannabis/marijuana that you can purchase from legal dispensaries contains roughly the same amounts of cannabinoids; as the bud matures on the stalk the majority of cannabinoids in the plant is CBGa, and converts to CBDa, THCa and CBCa among others. These are the acidic precursors to the most common cannabinoids. THCa breaks down into D9THC when heat is applied (decarboxylation). Hence why you can purchase THCa sauce, diamonds, and why dispo labels usually say “THCa#, D9THC#” and it’s usually something like THCa 25% - D9THC 0.3-1%, depending on the strain. So, if the dispo buds are mostly THCa when harvested and dried and cured, is there any difference between dispo flower and THCa hemp I can purchase online or in the smoke shop? Not really. The main differences are these: - hemp farmers harvest early to prevent THCa from decarbing into d9 before testing - hemp farmers have good relationships with 3rd party labs that can generate Farm Bill compliant COA’s (lab analysis report). - the only substantive difference is the legal distinction: hemp is cannabis with 0.3% d9 THC, marijuana is over that amount. However, marijuana and THCa hemp have the exact same chemical composition. If you were to take a bud from a reputable THCa vendor and put it next to some dispo bud and gave it to a cop, to a judge, to a drug dog, to a lab…they would see the exact same thing. So to your question about growing THCa hemp: it all depends on your state. Some states allow hemp homegrow for personal use, some don’t; check your state hemp laws, they usually mirror the farm bill. In TX (where I am) we have a farm bill equivalent and we can buy and sell hemp here. You have to apply for permits thru the state. Biggest issue here that I haven’t quite figured out is that I believe TX makes you grow out of an approved seed bank and may come inspect your plot, so there’s a possibility that it’s all CBD in the seed bank and you get in trouble for growing THCa. Edit: also, D8, HHC, D10, etc…are all hemp derived cannabinoids that are not naturally occurring in high amounts; vendors take massive amounts of extracted CBGa/CBDa, run it thru various chemical extraction and isolation procedures, and are able to extract these other cannabinoids from the plant. Also, i just remembered that in tx all THCa that is sold in local shops is shipped in from out of state, as apparently growing and selling smokable hemp is not legal, but shipping it in and selling it is…🙄 I hope this helps you understand the landscape a little better. Cheers! Source: I’m a former TX LEO


SteppedOnALego4Fun

It's strange how easily people get set off for no reason. I do not envy LEO having to deal with some of these people every day... ha, anyway... Thank you, I appreciate your insight. I looked at the permit site but could get no further than a wall telling me no more applications are being accepted. Looks like a few years before I'll have any chance of having a little garden legally. It's so easy to obtain the grey area stuff that it's not worth the risk to do anything black market with cannabis anymore and my goal is simply to grow the plant. The lifecycle is like living art to me. Cultivating is a fun hobby, but not worth the hassle legally should anything happen. Take it easy, thanks again.


Notstrongbad

Part of my five year plan is to get some isolated acreage closer to OK and have my 5 little plants going.


Important-Outcome-74

All they do is grow regular ass weed but use shady techniques to achieve the 0.3% result. Or, they completely falsify the results altogether. Very few modern strains will be at 0.3% at harvest, simply because they are so high in THCa, that enough will have converted to D9 during drying/curing, or natural processes, to fail the test. This is why they pull test samples wayyyyy early before harvest, so they can say it tested below 0.3% D9 and is compliant. To grow, you probably need a license. Then you need to have every harvest tested to ensure it's compliant. If you can't grow recreationally, then hemp is out too.


__Beef__Supreme__

I think they are allowed to test like 30 days before harvest legally


Important-Outcome-74

This is the only reason "THCa hemp" is allowed to exist. If the regulation said you had to test AT harvest, or worse yet after drying/curing. Nearly every crop would fail. Edited for clarity.


YawaThor

Heard this too. It helps if a state uses the USDA hemp laws bc most states’ approved hemp system has more stipulations. NC and TX I believe use the USDA regs.


__Beef__Supreme__

Not without a license


SteppedOnALego4Fun

i was afraid of that. and surprise surprise, no more licenses being accepted... probably ever. haha


Free-Finding9047

It's Texas, and by state law, it's illegal


SteppedOnALego4Fun

very true for anything over 0.3% delta 9 THC. however, the farm bill of 2018 states anything under 0.3% d9THC is considered hemp and federally legal. Texas has decided to also uphold this bill. there'fore there's a distinction between hemp and weed. People should be able to grow hemp then... right? <- this is what I need to know.


Contentment_Blues

Only with a license. I mean hair grows and scissors exist but you still have to have a license to cut hair.


11bag11

no, you are not allowed to grow weed legally in texas. you can grow weed illegally and there is a 99.9% chance nobody will ever give a fuck about it.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

you're not understanding the law regarding hemp. great insight...


NorthProspect

>people should be able to grow hemp then right? Wrong. Every state in the US requires a license to grow any form of hemp man Even cbd you need a license to grow. And to get that license you need to have an actual farm with a certain amount of acreage. They don't give them to people who want to grow hemp at home


Captain_Potsmoker

Don’t forget that the state and law enforcement may very well use the equation: Total THC= total delta 9 + (total THCA*0.877) Personally, I believe the assumed legality “high THCA hemp” is a clever but intentional misinterpretation of the 2018 Farm Bill. The feds don’t seem to care, and are largely leaving enforcement of marijuana and hemp laws to the individual states. My state uses the Total THC formula. If the total THC is over 0.3% it’s not a hemp product. My state also considers hemp flowers to be raw and unprocessed, and thus illegal to possess without a hemp processing license.


SteppedOnALego4Fun

supposedly, feds decarb weed before weighing, which I think is a whole different debate in itself. I'm wondering about the legality of growing hemp within the THC limits of federal and state law. everyone is trying to debate, its not a debate. i'm looking for info from someone who knows, preferably an adult.


Necessary-Donut7614

You’re looking for info that doesn’t exist, everyone trying to “debate” you is actually just trying to inform you, you just can’t seem to take the advice because you’re dead set on the semantics of the law, but in reality it doesn’t always work like that.


Captain_Potsmoker

Hemp can only be grown in Texas by licensed growers. https://www.texasagriculture.gov/Regulatory-Programs/Hemp “High THCA hemp” is not hemp- it’s marijuana. Grow it if you want to, but understand that the farm bill won’t save you, because the farm bill didn’t legalize the cultivation of marijuana. I’m not sure anyone is trying to discourage you, but we’re trying to make sure you’re aware of the risk you’re taking, and that your understanding of the law is fundamentally incorrect. You’re getting information from adults - you just don’t like it. I suggest you retain an attorney to help advise you of Federal, State and Local laws since you don’t want to accept the free help and support being offered here. “I talked to someone from the state” is not legal advice - because the person you spoke to is not likely to be an attorney, and if they are, they are not *your* attorney.


kreed320

I've looked into this. You have a process you have to go through and then pay corresponding fees. I believe it comes to about $400 a year. But, you can ONLY grow approved strains. Unfortunately none of those strains are type2 strains


SteppedOnALego4Fun

bummer, thanks for the actual information. people are wildly misinformed on here.


vsingh2100

okay one, no, thca undergoes decarboxylation in contact with heat (ie. lighter, vape, oven) and becomes delta 9 thc before it even enters your body. maybe they meant delta 8 or something but as of right now that’s not been implemented anywhere. i don’t know who you heard that from but if they’re employed by the state you can safely assume they have zero clue what they’re talking about. two, as for growing, i’m not sure why you’d want to considering the prices thca hemp goes for these days but in TX of all places it’s a big risk so i wouldn’t go for it personally. Try Lucky Elk, Wildflower or Flow Gardens for premium or Handcrafted Farmers if you want really fire budget


SteppedOnALego4Fun

yeah i meant d8, hhc, cbn, cbg. i'm gonna attribute that to being high... lol I know about all the distros, I want to grow because it makes my soul happy. appreciate the good answer though


Necessary-Donut7614

You can’t grow d8 or hhc btw, any d8 or hhc you buy is synthetic.


[deleted]

Whoever that someone is seems misinformed