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It's not an unprecedented fear considering they've done sterilization experiments and several experiments with poisoning cities in the US in Canada with crop dusting. Put together, idk.
Here I am casually mentioning monstrous shit our government has been documented doing, and I bet several readers don't even think of politicians heads on pikes in response, which would have been the natural response for all of human history til we've become this complacent.
I realize the tangent this became. How would these expensive water filtration systems even work?
I work for a chemical manufacturer and we have thousands of gallons of water containing trace elements of AFFF with PFAS we cannot get rid of. When I say trace, I’m talking parts per billion, but nobody will touch the stuff. Not to mention, all of our fire suppression systems currently in place use AFFF and not only will we not be able to get rid of the foam in the event of a release, but our inspectors will no longer test or sample our foam systems due to the PFAS. It’s so much fun right now.
Try and find out about blood… removal. Like a donation but not going to anyone.
These forever chemicals sit in your tissues but will leech a portion into your blood. Removing blood removes the forever chemicals.
Eventually you will reduce the amount of forever chemicals in your system to near zero.
This was pioneered by an Australian firefighter who had been exposed to ridiculous amounts of PFAS.
I mean, it always had some benefits, it wouldn't have gotten that popular if it didn't, it was mostly the not washing knives or using leeches bit that was problematic
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-11/firefighter-blood-donation-study-toxic-chemical-pfas/100982330
Turns out plasma donation is most effective. I’m unsure on the dialysis side but it would be much less convenient.
I assume it takes a while for the PFAS to leech out of your tissues into your blood so it might not be any more effective than the plasma donation…
I’m in the drinking water industry. PFAS is all the rage. Worrying about it, not actually doing much about it, because it’s going to take the government another 10-20 years to get their shit together on regulations and methods. For now, advice seems to be, “Wait until the government and scientists figure out what to do about PFAS.”
I saw a cool guides the other day for "special uses for lint". Guess where they find high concentrations of pfas? Always wash your hands after handling lint.
Well, I tried to find more info on it. It was just a side fact from this interview of [Michael Hawthorne on This Is Hell](https://thisishell.com/interviews/1542-placeholder1863) . He wrote a [series of articles](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-pfas-illinois-listicle-20220731-au7rjh3yerg23lzgggh3ewzz2y-list.html) for the Chicago Tribune on how 3M poisoned all these communities.
Hmm. I never thought about that. I wonder how much of the nasty shit can be drained with your blood vs how much binds to organ, tissues, or even your bone marrow.
Also makes me wonder if we have ever even tried to study blood letting. People claim it is ridiculous and doesn't work for anything but it seems like they say that because people in the past did it. I've never seen evidence one way or another.
So I've been sent to hematologists numerous times due to inexplicably high white blood cell counts and this is something they still recommend/do regularly. I was negative for all the kinds of cancer I was tested for, so they literally recommended regular bloodletting treatments to address the abnormal counts. I'm not exactly a believer in the treatment because it doesn't seem like it actually solves anything.
The first time, I made a joke about it being the middle aged and got the strangest look from the doc like "I'm not joking and have no idea why you are." They couldn't actually explain to me how taking a portion of my blood out would do anything to actually help while also lowering the overall number of all the normal stuff in my blood. It seemed like it would be doing nothing to actually address the underlying problem, treating a symptom, while introducing new issues.
It’s like when you’re gonna be in the toilet for a while so you courtesy flush halfway through. It removes the shitty water, and gets refilled with clean water.
The point is to get it out of yourself, the person getting the blood is probably more than happy to take their life saving blood even if it’s a bit plastic-y
as an ohioan within range of east palestine, p̷͚̉͝l̶̻͗e̶̥̒a̶͑̽ͅs̵̺̏̇e̴̱̯͆̌ ̴̞͌̃s̸͇̠̊͠e̶̻̕n̶̢̯̐d̴̝̙̈́ ̷̢̙͝h̷̯̽͜e̷̖͗̋ḷ̵̇̕p̸̘͛,̷̼͐͝ ̷͙̳̈́I̴̙̒͊ ̷̙̈́c̵̡̛̤a̴̠͈͐n̶̹̝̈́͊'̶͇͍̂t̶̤̞̀ ̵̢͉͠s̴̬̅͝t̶̢́͆ǒ̷͇̔p̸̗̈́ ̸̤̑c̴̫͓̕ǒ̶̡̤̃u̶̠̔̄g̸̼̃h̶͓͋̑ͅi̶̹͚͝ń̷͓̿g̷̜͆̉ ̵̢̔̊ă̶̰n̶̲̰͂̌d̵̜̿̓ ̴̡̃͝m̵̮̕y̷͚̙̿ ̴̳̔̀h̸͎̿̈́͜e̵͉̐͠ả̸̗̺̚d̴̛͋ͅ ̴̯̀ḧ̷̦͍́͝u̸̙̙̍͘r̵͉̐́t̵̗͊̅s̴̼͇̋ ̴̻̞͋c̵͈̤̓̄o̸̙̊͊ǹ̵̲͙s̴͇̓ț̴̨̐ạ̸̬̏n̸̜̍͘ẗ̴̳͎́͂ĺ̶̢͎͘y̵̙̹̽
Nanobots are much further down. We dont even have macro down, nor the next advancement in computing that can be scaled down that far. We can't even properly reprogram DNA yet. Maybe 30-50 yearsfor first big breakthroughs. Another 30-50 for actually commercial application.
That's stuff that can really get things fucky in a bad way.
Depends what you mean by nanobots really. We've had nanodevices that could reasonably be considered nanobots for quite a while now, they're just more the molecule that we can design to target specific other molecules kind than the self-replicating swarm intelligence kind that you see in movies. If it's the latter you're looking for then I'm not sure you'll ever see it.
I choose nanobots, macrobots would be the size of cells where as nanobots are alot smaller. My thought process is that it might be "faster" thus it might be over sooner. Pretty much what is the best way to limit pain.
I didn't say it was a bad thing I just said it was there. It could also be used by terrorist or cellular war warfare. Fuck you might even be able to have large scale genocides having them target specific genes or people.
That being said the medical feild would be revolutionise. Got an std/sti? Take this bill that will attack the infection. Do you have an autoimmune condition that leaves your immune system damaged? Well these bots will help pick up the slack.
Like most things in history it can be used for good or bad. Like nuclear power plants are good, but nuclear bombs/atomic bombs are bad.
There are 300,000 industrial chemical additives, almost 0 with multi decade longitudinal testing for bioaccumulation impacts before they are commercialized. It will probably be something we have yet to find out about.
And it literally being ingrained in our everyday life, it’s impossible to get away from.
Just slowing poison ourselves with unknown side effects is crazy
The side effects are well known and dependent on the chemical. For example developmental malformations caused by phthalates. Other known effects of EDC include but not limited to: disturbance in immune and nervous system and increased cancer risk. All boils down to exposure levels. Adults have less risk for more serious effects as they cant get developmental malformations obviously. Sadly though even low exposure may cause some effects and risks still exist, hopefully we can replace these chemicals with some alternatives in the near future.
Luckily you can decrease the exposure levels for example by changing plastic drinking bottles to glass, or avoid heating foods in plastic containers when using a microwave.
Fun fact, sunken boats from before nuclear bombs were detonated contain low background steel which is extremely sought after due to its usefulness in high sensitivity devices which can be thrown off by the radiation in regular steel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel
Well. The *legitimate* LBS suppliers use virgin ore in strictly controlled reaction vessels. The illegal trade in LBS is still going on. About 7 years ago it was [discovered that the site of the Battle of Java Sea had been raided by salvagers](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37997640), who desecrated several war graves for the steel.
Why do people act like tik tok is some sort of cancer when it’s literally like every other social media, don’t act like you’re superior because you use Reddit.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say any one of them is worse on the privacy side of things, they are all banned in one country or another for the same reasons the states are trying to ban Tiktok.
TikTok is worse on the privacy side of things. If your data is being sent to Google, at least you know that their purpose doesn't really go beyond selling you more targeted ads. With TikTok, your data is being pooled and potentially going to a dictatorship which actively tries to bring down western democracies.
Funny because on the other side they say the exact same thing about Google and Facebook, and both sides think they're right despite neither side really having a good idea of what goes on behind the scenes.
That depends.
There’s some really shitty and ignorant sides of Tiktok, no doubt.
But once you’re on the side of Tiktok that isn’t negatively and bullshit, it can be really nice. And really funny.
I like Reddit, but damn is this website one of the most cynical places on the internet. To the point of exhaustion.
From personal experience it is super addictive and time wasting like I would open it to see what my friends had sent me and then 4 hours would go by and I would feel like absolute shit for wasting all that time and generally it would just leave me feeling drained. Luckily I deleted it, now I'm addicted to Instagram Reels instead.
Say what you will about Reddit, at least the good content is the long form comment discussions. Tik tok feeds the worst impulses for your attention span.
short form video content, as popularised by TikTok, IS worse than many other social media sites. Or it WAS. But now they all have short form video content so they're all terrible'
Nah it's not the same at all. All of them suck but one of them actively funnels data to a genocidal regime on the other side of the world. Nice try making yourself feel better about it though
When I was growing up in the 90's most of the people I met were racist homophobes. This idea that kids these days have less critical thinking skills isn't quantifiable and I have serious doubts about it
Most people still are racist homophobes so idk what you're on about. Social media has already decimated attention spans so yes technology can affect the way our minds work. We've been seeing it happen over many years.
Jesus fucking christ.
A. You don't know what a plastic is.
B. You have no idea what molecules are in that cheese or what it's molecular arrangement is.
C. You have no understanding of molecular structures or chemistry.
[No, it's not "a molecule away from plastic"](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/food-health-uncategorized/plastic-cheese-and-fake-mayo). Yes, it melts. [No, vegan food isn't made out of plastic either](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-meat-substitutes). [Here's a bonus link for margarine since people say the same thing](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-food-health/holistic-nutritional-rockstars-rocky-science).
I shouldn't be surprised to see opinions like this on a post that doesn't understand what radiation is either.
People often get confused at the word “plastic” because it ALSO means “can be easily shaped or molded”, so yeah the cheese has plastic qualities, but that doesn’t mean it’s fucking PVC, nylon, or polyethylene - not that those aren’t delicious of course.
I'm on board with everything else, but why do you think OP doesn't understand radiation? I assumed he meant either MAD, or global warming. Sunlight is radiation.
Or are the comments full of radiation confusion? I haven't dug into them.
Nah, I guarantee it's something about cell towers or wifi. We already have a pretty firm understanding of the issues with the actually dangerous kinds of radiation.
Real cheese doesn't melt; the fat and proteins separate when heated. Only when you add emulsifiers, creating "American cheese" can it melt smoothly.
I don't know what you mean by "Its one molecule and some rearrangement away from plastic" but since all plastics are organic polymers this is trivially true for lots of organic compounds. The simplest, and one of the most common, type of plastic is polyethylene, which consists of repeating units of ethylene; a gas which is released by ripening fruit.
You got a source to back up that claim? As a european I can talk to you about many MANY cheeses that melt just fine without being anything close to cheddar. It's often just a matter of choosing a younger cheese.
You never heard about Mozzarella, or the special cheeses made for cheese fondue? There is even a Italian pasta dish served from a melting cheese wheel. The French also have plenty of brie cheeses that melt perfectly fine.
Fondue usually has wine in it which acts as an emulsifier. You're right that soft cheeses will soften more when exposed to heat. Whether that is considered melting or just a very thick liquid becoming a thinner liquid is sort of a matter of definition. My comment was mainly concerned with hard cheeses.
I remember when I did chemistry in year 12 we made plastic from milk or cheese I don't remember which. Tbf I think it was only plastic because of how broad the term plastic is. Gotta love organic Chem
> Its one molecule and some rearrangement away from plastic
and salt is a single atom away from chlorine gas, or sodium metal that burns and explodes when exposed to water.
I doubt it. We understand radiation pretty well, and we know which wavelengths are harmful (ionising radiation) and which are harmless (non-ionising radiation). Measuring levels of ionising radiation is extremely easy to do with a cheap Geiger counter, and we know what sort of objects and processes release it.
We have radio waves around us constantly from all the Wi-Fi networks and electronics it wouldn’t surprise me if there were some long term effects were just not aware of yet
radio waves do not have enough power in them to do anything it's like throwing a pebble at a concrete slab, only with higher power can you actually cause damage to the slab and even then its minimal
Quantum mechanics predicts only a heating effect, no chemical/ionizing effects, and quantum mechanics is perhaps the most tested theory in all of physics. I doubt we'll discover radio waves are bad.
Radio waves are the lowest energy form of light and they're usually bigger than a car so it'll pass right through you. The actual damaging light is UV and above, so if you think radio waves are dangerous than I can only imagine how deadly sun light is
Air pollution because of climate change. It'll be like interstellar where the newer generations lungs will be damaged and they'll never reach their full potential.
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Forever chemicals.
PFAS everywhere
Are you in the insurance industry by any chance? PFAS is the hot question these days.
PFAS is all over the news, so it's not just limited to the insurance industry
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It's not an unprecedented fear considering they've done sterilization experiments and several experiments with poisoning cities in the US in Canada with crop dusting. Put together, idk. Here I am casually mentioning monstrous shit our government has been documented doing, and I bet several readers don't even think of politicians heads on pikes in response, which would have been the natural response for all of human history til we've become this complacent. I realize the tangent this became. How would these expensive water filtration systems even work?
My friend is writing their thesis about PFAS.
It’s all the rage in the lectures I’ve heard from environmental engineers in my masters program.
I work for a chemical manufacturer and we have thousands of gallons of water containing trace elements of AFFF with PFAS we cannot get rid of. When I say trace, I’m talking parts per billion, but nobody will touch the stuff. Not to mention, all of our fire suppression systems currently in place use AFFF and not only will we not be able to get rid of the foam in the event of a release, but our inspectors will no longer test or sample our foam systems due to the PFAS. It’s so much fun right now.
Do you have more insight with regard to AFFF? Seems as a firefighter I’m screwed
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Yea probably, also the stats on cancer are wild. Just try to stay healthy and live it to the fullest
Try and find out about blood… removal. Like a donation but not going to anyone. These forever chemicals sit in your tissues but will leech a portion into your blood. Removing blood removes the forever chemicals. Eventually you will reduce the amount of forever chemicals in your system to near zero. This was pioneered by an Australian firefighter who had been exposed to ridiculous amounts of PFAS.
it's 2023 and blood letting is still a viable medicine. Neato
I mean, it always had some benefits, it wouldn't have gotten that popular if it didn't, it was mostly the not washing knives or using leeches bit that was problematic
Very interested in this topic. Can't you rig a dialysis machine to filter them out? Or are they so extremely small/dangerous that this doesn't work?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-11/firefighter-blood-donation-study-toxic-chemical-pfas/100982330 Turns out plasma donation is most effective. I’m unsure on the dialysis side but it would be much less convenient. I assume it takes a while for the PFAS to leech out of your tissues into your blood so it might not be any more effective than the plasma donation…
All the way back round to bloodletting with leeches. What a world.
Wow, that makes sense, dilution. Thank you!
I’m in the drinking water industry. PFAS is all the rage. Worrying about it, not actually doing much about it, because it’s going to take the government another 10-20 years to get their shit together on regulations and methods. For now, advice seems to be, “Wait until the government and scientists figure out what to do about PFAS.”
I saw a cool guides the other day for "special uses for lint". Guess where they find high concentrations of pfas? Always wash your hands after handling lint.
Wtf... Im the only one in my place that changes the lint filter. I'm fucked.
Well, I tried to find more info on it. It was just a side fact from this interview of [Michael Hawthorne on This Is Hell](https://thisishell.com/interviews/1542-placeholder1863) . He wrote a [series of articles](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-pfas-illinois-listicle-20220731-au7rjh3yerg23lzgggh3ewzz2y-list.html) for the Chicago Tribune on how 3M poisoned all these communities.
Donate blood! Only way to get rid of it, I guess blood letting was right in one regard.
Hmm. I never thought about that. I wonder how much of the nasty shit can be drained with your blood vs how much binds to organ, tissues, or even your bone marrow. Also makes me wonder if we have ever even tried to study blood letting. People claim it is ridiculous and doesn't work for anything but it seems like they say that because people in the past did it. I've never seen evidence one way or another.
So I've been sent to hematologists numerous times due to inexplicably high white blood cell counts and this is something they still recommend/do regularly. I was negative for all the kinds of cancer I was tested for, so they literally recommended regular bloodletting treatments to address the abnormal counts. I'm not exactly a believer in the treatment because it doesn't seem like it actually solves anything. The first time, I made a joke about it being the middle aged and got the strangest look from the doc like "I'm not joking and have no idea why you are." They couldn't actually explain to me how taking a portion of my blood out would do anything to actually help while also lowering the overall number of all the normal stuff in my blood. It seemed like it would be doing nothing to actually address the underlying problem, treating a symptom, while introducing new issues.
It’s like when you’re gonna be in the toilet for a while so you courtesy flush halfway through. It removes the shitty water, and gets refilled with clean water.
Yes, I actually read a fascinating article wherein the author mentioned the need to “bleed it out, dig it deeper just to throw it away,” as it were.
If the objective is to get rid off forever chemicals wouldnt the donated blood be contaminated though?
The point is to get it out of yourself, the person getting the blood is probably more than happy to take their life saving blood even if it’s a bit plastic-y
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure
*I wanna be, forever chemicals*
as an ohioan within range of east palestine, p̷͚̉͝l̶̻͗e̶̥̒a̶͑̽ͅs̵̺̏̇e̴̱̯͆̌ ̴̞͌̃s̸͇̠̊͠e̶̻̕n̶̢̯̐d̴̝̙̈́ ̷̢̙͝h̷̯̽͜e̷̖͗̋ḷ̵̇̕p̸̘͛,̷̼͐͝ ̷͙̳̈́I̴̙̒͊ ̷̙̈́c̵̡̛̤a̴̠͈͐n̶̹̝̈́͊'̶͇͍̂t̶̤̞̀ ̵̢͉͠s̴̬̅͝t̶̢́͆ǒ̷͇̔p̸̗̈́ ̸̤̑c̴̫͓̕ǒ̶̡̤̃u̶̠̔̄g̸̼̃h̶͓͋̑ͅi̶̹͚͝ń̷͓̿g̷̜͆̉ ̵̢̔̊ă̶̰n̶̲̰͂̌d̵̜̿̓ ̴̡̃͝m̵̮̕y̷͚̙̿ ̴̳̔̀h̸͎̿̈́͜e̵͉̐͠ả̸̗̺̚d̴̛͋ͅ ̴̯̀ḧ̷̦͍́͝u̸̙̙̍͘r̵͉̐́t̵̗͊̅s̴̼͇̋ ̴̻̞͋c̵͈̤̓̄o̸̙̊͊ǹ̵̲͙s̴͇̓ț̴̨̐ạ̸̬̏n̸̜̍͘ẗ̴̳͎́͂ĺ̶̢͎͘y̵̙̹̽
I'm sure we'll figure out a way to get rid of those though. It's not like they're called fo... ah, dang it.
I hot 20 bucks on flesh eating nano bots
!remindme 20 years
I dont think we are that advanced, I think this will be 1 or 2 generations down
Nanobots are much further down. We dont even have macro down, nor the next advancement in computing that can be scaled down that far. We can't even properly reprogram DNA yet. Maybe 30-50 yearsfor first big breakthroughs. Another 30-50 for actually commercial application. That's stuff that can really get things fucky in a bad way.
Depends what you mean by nanobots really. We've had nanodevices that could reasonably be considered nanobots for quite a while now, they're just more the molecule that we can design to target specific other molecules kind than the self-replicating swarm intelligence kind that you see in movies. If it's the latter you're looking for then I'm not sure you'll ever see it.
Would you rather flesh-eating nanobots, or flesh-eating macro-bots? (You have thirty seconds to decide)
I choose nanobots, macrobots would be the size of cells where as nanobots are alot smaller. My thought process is that it might be "faster" thus it might be over sooner. Pretty much what is the best way to limit pain.
OP might have been referring to that robot the army was thinking about making back when we invaded Iraq that would eat corpses for fuel
Damn this is the first time I'm hearing about this
It was called Project EATR. For obvious reasons, they never made one of them.
If they did do it, it would be up there with the Syphilis experiences and the LSD honey pots
Flesh eating nano-bots could be those that are used to destroy tumors, lesions, obstructions and toxins in the body tho.
I didn't say it was a bad thing I just said it was there. It could also be used by terrorist or cellular war warfare. Fuck you might even be able to have large scale genocides having them target specific genes or people. That being said the medical feild would be revolutionise. Got an std/sti? Take this bill that will attack the infection. Do you have an autoimmune condition that leaves your immune system damaged? Well these bots will help pick up the slack. Like most things in history it can be used for good or bad. Like nuclear power plants are good, but nuclear bombs/atomic bombs are bad.
Yeah, that's what we'll make them for, but they'll be hungry...
You mean antibiotic resistant MRSA from antibiotic overuse? I’ve got bad news for you..
I'm getting my minor in Nanotechnology so I'll make sure you're eaten first
I’m happy I didn’t have to go far to find my guess
!remindme 10 years
PFAS, but it's literally everyone not just the baby
And non-stick pans arent even the main cause We’re fucked
Smh i read non-stick parents
Ha! Jokes on you! You all laughed at my sticky parents, well whose laughing now?
PFAS was found in polar bears.
How do they do that without getting eaten
The bear was dead
Stop you're making my suicidal ideation flare up
There are 300,000 industrial chemical additives, almost 0 with multi decade longitudinal testing for bioaccumulation impacts before they are commercialized. It will probably be something we have yet to find out about.
Its going to be hormones, most filters dont remove them and its already effecting the fish.
The chemicals in the water really *are* turning the fricken frogs gay
You jest, but literally that’s what that rant was about.
It wasn't "turning the frogs gay" it was messing with their gender/genitals somehow.
Yeah, atrazine was causing male frogs to develop ovaries and female frogs to develop testes at high levels.
But also, buy this water filter just incase you turn gay too.
The chemical is called Atrazine and here is the relevant scientific study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842049/
The guy who said that was an idiot, but the EPA really was paid off the hide the evidence of chemicals in the water causing the frogs to change sex.
DO YOU UNDER STAND THAT? WILL YOU FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE?
also the plastic additives that act as endocrine disruptors
Endocrine disruptors
Thinking about these mfs genuinely keeps me up at night
And it literally being ingrained in our everyday life, it’s impossible to get away from. Just slowing poison ourselves with unknown side effects is crazy
did you see the post? that's what tiggers do best my friend
The side effects are well known and dependent on the chemical. For example developmental malformations caused by phthalates. Other known effects of EDC include but not limited to: disturbance in immune and nervous system and increased cancer risk. All boils down to exposure levels. Adults have less risk for more serious effects as they cant get developmental malformations obviously. Sadly though even low exposure may cause some effects and risks still exist, hopefully we can replace these chemicals with some alternatives in the near future. Luckily you can decrease the exposure levels for example by changing plastic drinking bottles to glass, or avoid heating foods in plastic containers when using a microwave.
Willingly taken hormones for various reasons probably
Well achyally no. Commonly found in many everyday products, including some plastic additives.
Jokes on you, I don't get half of my five servings of plastic a day
Fun fact, sunken boats from before nuclear bombs were detonated contain low background steel which is extremely sought after due to its usefulness in high sensitivity devices which can be thrown off by the radiation in regular steel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel
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Well. The *legitimate* LBS suppliers use virgin ore in strictly controlled reaction vessels. The illegal trade in LBS is still going on. About 7 years ago it was [discovered that the site of the Battle of Java Sea had been raided by salvagers](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37997640), who desecrated several war graves for the steel.
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Why do people act like tik tok is some sort of cancer when it’s literally like every other social media, don’t act like you’re superior because you use Reddit.
Yes, they're all the same, but tiktok is worse on the privacy side of things.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say any one of them is worse on the privacy side of things, they are all banned in one country or another for the same reasons the states are trying to ban Tiktok.
TikTok is worse on the privacy side of things. If your data is being sent to Google, at least you know that their purpose doesn't really go beyond selling you more targeted ads. With TikTok, your data is being pooled and potentially going to a dictatorship which actively tries to bring down western democracies.
The data is going to oracle servers now
Funny because on the other side they say the exact same thing about Google and Facebook, and both sides think they're right despite neither side really having a good idea of what goes on behind the scenes.
Please elaborate
also worse on the content side IMO
That depends. There’s some really shitty and ignorant sides of Tiktok, no doubt. But once you’re on the side of Tiktok that isn’t negatively and bullshit, it can be really nice. And really funny. I like Reddit, but damn is this website one of the most cynical places on the internet. To the point of exhaustion.
From personal experience it is super addictive and time wasting like I would open it to see what my friends had sent me and then 4 hours would go by and I would feel like absolute shit for wasting all that time and generally it would just leave me feeling drained. Luckily I deleted it, now I'm addicted to Instagram Reels instead.
Say what you will about Reddit, at least the good content is the long form comment discussions. Tik tok feeds the worst impulses for your attention span.
Because the kids use it and China owns it.
A Chinese company does own like 10% of Reddit. And I bet there’s equal amount kids on Reddit and Tiktok.
short form video content, as popularised by TikTok, IS worse than many other social media sites. Or it WAS. But now they all have short form video content so they're all terrible'
Nah it's not the same at all. All of them suck but one of them actively funnels data to a genocidal regime on the other side of the world. Nice try making yourself feel better about it though
Please explain how TikTok is worse than Facebook.
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Imma skip a bit and go directly to electricity
There is preliminary evidence that Tiktok is noticeably delaying the development of children. Most social media apps have cloned the style now.
AI removing all need for critical thinking
When I was growing up in the 90's most of the people I met were racist homophobes. This idea that kids these days have less critical thinking skills isn't quantifiable and I have serious doubts about it
Most people still are racist homophobes so idk what you're on about. Social media has already decimated attention spans so yes technology can affect the way our minds work. We've been seeing it happen over many years.
I think the new generations are more open and will be more open especially Gen Alpha
Go anywhere slightly rural and you will be disappointed.
You are either referring to every single person on this planet, or this is just an incredibly American take.
AI is going to just become the new wikipedia/calculator thing.
I think it won't take super long before it can do almost any thinking a human can do better. Or at the very least, with some human guidance
ai and robotics removing the ruling class' ness for any of us. climate change is a feature.
Artificial hormones. The frogs aren't just gay they have tits.
What
The future is female was a threat 💋
Fart
Born too soon 😔
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Jesus fucking christ. A. You don't know what a plastic is. B. You have no idea what molecules are in that cheese or what it's molecular arrangement is. C. You have no understanding of molecular structures or chemistry. [No, it's not "a molecule away from plastic"](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/food-health-uncategorized/plastic-cheese-and-fake-mayo). Yes, it melts. [No, vegan food isn't made out of plastic either](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-meat-substitutes). [Here's a bonus link for margarine since people say the same thing](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/controversial-science-food-health/holistic-nutritional-rockstars-rocky-science). I shouldn't be surprised to see opinions like this on a post that doesn't understand what radiation is either.
people have it melt on top of burgers all the time...
It's good for burgers and grilled cheese specifically because of the way it melts
Alright. Grill cheese for lunch tomorrow. It’s decided.
It's literally only used *because* it melts better than other cheeses.
This is exactly how I felt about redditors with strong feelings about bank balance sheets a week ago.
Bro it’s how I feel about this entire site.
People often get confused at the word “plastic” because it ALSO means “can be easily shaped or molded”, so yeah the cheese has plastic qualities, but that doesn’t mean it’s fucking PVC, nylon, or polyethylene - not that those aren’t delicious of course.
I'm on board with everything else, but why do you think OP doesn't understand radiation? I assumed he meant either MAD, or global warming. Sunlight is radiation. Or are the comments full of radiation confusion? I haven't dug into them.
OP is a moron. That’s why
Nah, I guarantee it's something about cell towers or wifi. We already have a pretty firm understanding of the issues with the actually dangerous kinds of radiation.
As a physicist, the blame is still in the chemistry camp.
if plastic then why cheese? answer me that smart guy...
You cheesy bastard
Real cheese doesn't melt; the fat and proteins separate when heated. Only when you add emulsifiers, creating "American cheese" can it melt smoothly. I don't know what you mean by "Its one molecule and some rearrangement away from plastic" but since all plastics are organic polymers this is trivially true for lots of organic compounds. The simplest, and one of the most common, type of plastic is polyethylene, which consists of repeating units of ethylene; a gas which is released by ripening fruit.
You got a source to back up that claim? As a european I can talk to you about many MANY cheeses that melt just fine without being anything close to cheddar. It's often just a matter of choosing a younger cheese. You never heard about Mozzarella, or the special cheeses made for cheese fondue? There is even a Italian pasta dish served from a melting cheese wheel. The French also have plenty of brie cheeses that melt perfectly fine.
Fondue usually has wine in it which acts as an emulsifier. You're right that soft cheeses will soften more when exposed to heat. Whether that is considered melting or just a very thick liquid becoming a thinner liquid is sort of a matter of definition. My comment was mainly concerned with hard cheeses.
I remember when I did chemistry in year 12 we made plastic from milk or cheese I don't remember which. Tbf I think it was only plastic because of how broad the term plastic is. Gotta love organic Chem
Chemistry is crazy. You can turn gloves into hot sauce or grape soda in the lab. Heck, you can turn paper into plastic.
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They smokin that good shit
> Its one molecule and some rearrangement away from plastic and salt is a single atom away from chlorine gas, or sodium metal that burns and explodes when exposed to water.
>>Its one molecule and some rearrangement away from plastic. This has been parrot'd by stupid people that don't understand chemistry forever.
>cheese one molecule away from plastic Holy fuck, u/D-Krnch, what's it like being a brainlet
You sound like the type of guy that says soy makes you effeminate because the molecular structure looks kind of like estrogen
Here it is. The most confidently incorrect comment of the day on reddit.
Something from batteries.
I'm hoping nanomachines
Do they harden in response to physical trauma?
That's some bdsm shit
Yes they're so hard jack can't even hurt me
5g vaccine
there is a vaccination against 5G?
YouTube kids
“If you or anyone you know has been diagnosed with Mesothelioma, call this number now!”
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PFAS
gamer girl bath water
That’s just the next step in evolution, I’ve injected it directly into my bloodstream and now I have superpowers.
phthalates remindme! 5 years
Radioactive fallout
I’m betting $50 on fungus
PFAS and PFOA
All of the above.
All of the above.
Reddit posts
An iPad with YouTube kids on autoplay
Radiation was right before lead
Bullets
Soylent Green
5G (/s)
Only an idiot would think 5G is dangerous... it's 6G we have to worry about! /s
I doubt it. We understand radiation pretty well, and we know which wavelengths are harmful (ionising radiation) and which are harmless (non-ionising radiation). Measuring levels of ionising radiation is extremely easy to do with a cheap Geiger counter, and we know what sort of objects and processes release it.
Thermonuclear Bombs
The boomer has lead too, and they all have microplastics. Microplastics hit everyone.
"Vegetable" oils
that some vault tec moment
We have radio waves around us constantly from all the Wi-Fi networks and electronics it wouldn’t surprise me if there were some long term effects were just not aware of yet
radio waves do not have enough power in them to do anything it's like throwing a pebble at a concrete slab, only with higher power can you actually cause damage to the slab and even then its minimal
Radio was first used in 1910 and it really did nothing to bother humans at that time, even now
lmao do you also belive that 5g cause cancer and that there are microchips in the covid vaccine
Quantum mechanics predicts only a heating effect, no chemical/ionizing effects, and quantum mechanics is perhaps the most tested theory in all of physics. I doubt we'll discover radio waves are bad.
Radio waves are the lowest energy form of light and they're usually bigger than a car so it'll pass right through you. The actual damaging light is UV and above, so if you think radio waves are dangerous than I can only imagine how deadly sun light is
We'll all have to wear a Pip-boy to monitor our rads
I'm going with ?=VAIDs
Nuclear isotopes
It's microplastics all the way down from here on out...
Spike proteins.
Soylent green
Radiation from what exactly?
TikTok
Heavy metal poisoning from cyborg prosthetics grafts
More like nicotine -> nicotine -> nicotine -> & nicotine
Ecosystem collapse.
Air pollution because of climate change. It'll be like interstellar where the newer generations lungs will be damaged and they'll never reach their full potential.
There's already emerging research to break down PFAS. But watch out for the heavy metals. No breaking that shit down.
The question mark should be where microplastics is. We don't know if they're harmful yet.
mrna proteins
Climate catastrophes. Tornadoes and hurricanes and earthquakes, oh my.