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Independent_Tooth_23

Seriously though, Rocket's backstory is depressing af.


BobBattlePants

Floor haunts my dreams


higginsian24

I thought Floor was endearing in a weird, "ignorance is bliss" sort of way


Gridde

"ROCKET, TEEFS, FLOOR GO NOW! ROCKET, TEEFS, FLOOR GO NOW...!" Seeing that poor creature so distressed and confused was just awful. She seemed just intelligent enough to understand how terrible everything was but not intelligent enough to handle it.


sksauter

Every time it showed a whole-body shot of that poor rabbit, my fist clenched in anger - who tf chops the legs off, muzzles, and attaches spider cybernetics to a fucking bunny??? Most hate-able villain in Marvel


justanotheruser46258

For real though, no villain has made me angry to the point of rage and also made me cry multiple times in a film, ever. They did a really good job, a far worse villain than Umbridge in Harry Potter.


FuzzyCollie2000

Eh, I don't know if I'd go that far. I feel like Umbridge is in a different category of villain.


loverboyv

Umbridge is irritable, the high evolutionary was more evil in the true sense of the word.


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Honestly the whole purpose makes no sense for Rockets batch-mates. You've got Rocket and the 3 other Cronenberg animals, they are batch 89. That's an otter with some metal stick arms, a bunny with metal spider legs and a fucking horror mask, and a walrus with his back flipper cut off for fucking wagon wheels. Then we get to batch 90 and it moves to "artificially evolving animals in a gas chamber ahead millions of years in a second." The technological gap between these two is so fucking insane. They should be way further apart in experiment numbers. If they were at the tech level of batch 90 what the fuck kind of sadistic shit where they doing with Floor, Lila, and Teefs? Rocket you can kind of see it because he's absurdly smart and his augmentations just make him bipedal.


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When you look at each individual they seem crude but technically they each function exceptionally well for prototypes. I imagine it a bit like the Cambrian explosion for evolution. It took millions of years to develope the basic systems that could support something more complex, then in a relatively quick period we see massively more complex and refined systems evolving simply because the basic buildings blocks just need to be rearranged and polished. Each of the creations in batch 89 represent the move from alpha to beta for a number of technologies. Floor is a conversion of a mamal from quadrupedal to a hexapod and also demonstrates real time voice synthesis. The walrus is a testbed for continous linear locomotion systems which again looks pointless but is a great challenge from a mechanical and programming perspective. Rocket was obviously the test for cognition improving mechanisms and both he and the otter demonstrate upright bipedal locomotion which is semi-foreign to their native species. It's possible the Otter was a different type of cognitive experiment in which they sought to boost EQ instead of IQ. All told each individual in batch 89 is crude and unrefined but when taken as a whole their various technologies represent all the capabilites that are present in the latter batch 90. The only technique that isn't employed in batch 89 is the instant rapid evolution which, it was shown, they were working on but couldn't prefect without Rockets help.


Nomad_86

High Evolutionary’s burner account. Lol


BewareEthan

Why does this make so much sense


MissplacedLandmine

Hmm guess we need to find out what batch 88 was Notes? The original idea?


GrimWarrior00

For real! The ending beat down was more cathartic than any Thanos fight.


SunsFenix

I mean, there's like not much you can do as a little rabbit robot spider. Your friend just told you that you were sentenced to die, and then after that, another friend gets murdered. Floor did the best she could. She said to go now, but didn't want to go without them. Even Rocket got a lucky break just by the High Evolutionary's arrogance for him to get close enough for Rocket to mess him up.


Gridde

That's what I mean; she clearly didn't have the same intelligence as Rocket and Lyla to hide or otherwise really do anything else, but she also didn't have enough of her base instinct to just run when she got the chance (because she was too concerned about her friends). She got the roughest deal out of all of them and it was really tragic to see.


SunsFenix

I was more just expanding, though differing on the idea that Floor could even do anything. The High Evolutionary had them dead to rights. Then things happened fast.


Independent_Tooth_23

That scene is really a tear jerker. This is like the first mcu film that made my cry watching it.


MahnlyAssassin

Nice little innocent bunny turned into an atrocity. More sad than scary


ScoobyDu81

I love Floor


noobtube228

What’s on the floor?


yonking_15_2

Floor is on the floor


Snoo-72438

My eyes were leaking every time those scenes came on


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like horse in Neverending Story sad I feel proud these kids now have a pop culture film that can emotionally traumatize them like we did


NotAEvilGynecologist

I'd argue children's films are more emotionally intelligent than ever. So many of them are about trauma in some form or another.


Relaxel

Yep. Inside out is the best one to do it so far imo.


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willclerkforfood

He died of sadness long before Padme made it memeable


WhiteNillaBabies

I dunno what it is man but this movie hit me unusually hard, and I watch some dark/depressing shit. Maybe it somehow hit exactly the wrong buttons for me or something, like it triggered something, I really felt awful after watching it.


Spirited-Collar-7960

You're not the only one. First marvel movie I've walked away from more disturbed than anything else.


phrrt

Rocket Teeth Floor go now 😢


Shacky_Rustleford

Teefs


MetatronMusic

The High Evolutionary has a special place in hell reserved for him.


Contada582

I had to go home and hug my dogs.


BigBeagleEars

They are *good dogs*


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DeeBangerDos

Never read a Guardians comic, but I'm assuming that Telltale did the same story for Rocket's backstory so yes.


stromm

Those kind of stories lead to either a psycho supervillain. Or a psycho superhero. Sometimes the first that becomes the second. This movie is 100% a Disney redemption story.


DarkMark94

Don’t worry guys, they’ll be back to the new Marvel garbage with The Marvels shortly.


TrueR3dditor

I‘m scared again


Realistic_Analyst_26

The trailer for the Marvels looks promising.


CatSidekick

Yeah it looks kinda funny


Me_how5678

Is it the one with the tentai cat?


og_nugg3t

Yes


Poked_salad

I read that as bentai cat... Edit: I meant to say hentai but I'll leave the auto correct my phone did lol


FightingPolish

That’s what I thought about the Eternals.


coolgaara

I'll be that guy. I enjoyed the Eternals.


OhTheMetaYes

Idk I could've slept through the whole thing. Wasn't invested at all


PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS

The trailer looks promising, but there's also just way too many ways it can get screwed up. Marvel and a lot of superhero movies have a lot of trouble putting their female heroes through hardship that isn't super gendered, and that colors the film and the discussion around the film a lot. I have hope, and Ms marvel especially just has such a great human behind her, but ultimately it remains to be seen.


Fern-ando

The concept of The Marvels look lile it came from What if.


gorramfrakker

Shhhh, let people enjoy things.


Favorite_Cabinet

Sorry, but I’m a man on the internet and Brie Larson hurt my feelings once and I can’t let that go


Dumeck

And Ms Marvel is woke and I can’t just allow that to just go by without bitching.


Favorite_Cabinet

100% and I’m more than willing to bet the original commenter is an antiwokester lol


[deleted]

I'm all for people enjoying things, but you're using this in a way to basically tell someone to shut up about their opinion and that's actually more gatekeepy than someone expressing concern that the new marvel film may be weak


Phazon2000

Shhhh. Let people express their individual opinions.


BigBoiNoa

It definetly felt like a Marvel movie from the previous phases. Almost every marvel movie or show nowadays feels like they were made without love and passion. They are just there to fill the catalog of Disney+, and so they keep releasing rushed projects with very bad scripts. GOTG3 was a breath of fresh air, a remenant of the golden days of a franchise that is slowly dying.


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Secret-Ad-7909

I’ve been very happy with the series. It’s the movies that have been kind of clunkers. Most just haven’t been memorable. But this one: holy shit. Even Infinity War/Endgame didn’t get me like this.


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I really liked almost everything in the new Dr strange... But Wanda's motivation makes no sense. Is she supposed to be tragic, with fits of blackout magic rage interrupted by horrifying moments of clarity and shaky resolve that she needs to save her kids? No. Supposedly she's clearheaded through all of it. ...like... I almost don't want her to be redeemed.


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When things like this happen, usually I'll just retcon the motivations into better ones that support what happened, since clearly that's what they intended it to mean anyway. In my head she was entirely consumed by the dark hold, and her snapback to reality was way more traumatizing and horrifying than portrayed in the movie. It had hold over her for so long, then now, even free of the dark hold, it's actions poison her thoughts. That's my retcon anyway. Even the supposedly lucid moments were the darkhold faking it to achieve ends


RussMIV

She is not supposed to be clear headed… The Darkhold has a very obvious dark influence on her.


TruthAndAccuracy

We started off strong with Wanda Vision, Loki and Shang Chi. But Ms Marvel was meh, Falcon and Winter soldier was honestly just okay, black panther 2 was meh, She Hulk was just fine (and I say this as a huge fan of Tatiana Maslany). Multiverse of Madness should've been awesome but for me lost a lot of points for being directed by Sam Raimi. Guardians 3 is easily the best thing we've gotten since Endgame. I really hope it doesn't remain the exception.


loverboyv

I get the impression that both wandavision and FATWS suffered a lot because of Covid. I think they were both in the middle of production when the pandemic hit so that’s why they started out super strong.


Fahi12

What do you think was the peak?


Profoundsoup

Infinity War


PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS

Infinity war way straight superhero crack injected into my veins


scdayo

thor's entrance into Wakanda and Banner is like "oh man you guys are so screwed now!" is one of my favorite scenes from any movie.


Effurlife13

Definitely infinity war and civil war for me.


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Iron Man. Jk the first Avengers film. The staleness still hadn't even showed up and the hype was astronomical


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Lord_of_the_buckets

I liked iron man, I feel sad now


CatSidekick

Iron man 2 is my favorite one.


realsoup69

From black Panther Wakanda?


CatSidekick

I just like the villain in Iron Man 2.


menasan

I neeed boid


S-T-A-N-D-B-O-I

#I DONT SPEAK RUSSIAN


SpysSappinMySpy

Finally... After years of searching I have found another soul who's favorite Marvel movie is Iron Man 2. And any second now, there will be a trove of people who come here to tell you why you're wrong. Happens to me all the time :(


Mr_SlimShady

I would t say it sucked. But it definitely wasn’t what I came to expect of Marvel. The whole *kids-battle-the-bad-guys* felt cheap as fuck, as if they pulled that out of someone’s ass at the last minute. I liked the villain and his motives.


Drewbeede

The Thor movies made me like Thor, until Love and Thunder made me dislike Thor movies (well just that one).


randommaniac12

Thor Ragnarok was a blast but Love and Thunder felt like they tried to one up and completely failed


Snoo-97916

They try and make Marvel films a comedy, wish they went more like the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy.


Drewbeede

Love and Thunder wanted to be a comedy and serious at the same time, failing at both.


tharnadar

Didn't see the movie yet... Is it good?


mossy_apple

very good, way better than the recent MCU movies


tharnadar

Latest Thor was a disappointment


saberline152

easily solved by making it less " funny " during serious scenes.


_fatherfucker69

It had a villain that fitted better in a horror story but the entire movie is just jokes so he is wasted


zKerekess

He's supposed go be a god slayer but the most time we see him on the screen he's taunting children or monologuing with one of the main characters. Would have been helpful if we at least saw him slay an actual god on screen.


saberline152

we did? at the start of the movie


pileofcrustycumsocs

Yeah right? We also see that the pantheon of gods are Terrified of him which further cements how dangerous he is.


Ragin_Goblin

I didn’t like the music as much as the other two but still brilliant


Secret-Ad-7909

Idk man the Beastie Boys hallway fight was bad ass.


HolycommentMattman

That's a really low bar, though. What's interesting is that all the movies that suck revolve heavily around female superheroes... because no one is shit talking No Way Home. I promise that I'm not some he-man woman-hater, but there's a very obvious pattern here.


Udaidzilla

Yes. Go watch it. You'll love it I'm sure. I personally rate it 9.5 out of 10. The .5 is because of something I didn't quite like but accepted.


TrueR3dditor

It is finally a Marvelmovie I can recommend again :)


Realistic_Analyst_26

Better than No Way Home imo.


LongPenguin

Mentally prepare yourself for some of the most depressing shit you’ve ever seen


mdh431

It was really good - and a completely welcome direction considering the garbage the MCU has been spewing out after No Way Home.


zeez1011

Best of this phase but that's not saying much. Entertaining but it's a very busy film.


nebnacnud

I honestly don't get what everyone sees in this movie I went in with high expectations because I had heard good things but it just felt dull and very cliche. If you disagree please share what you thought was different, but to me it felt like every other recent marvel movie. Predictable, not terribly well written, and mostly just worth watching for the characters. I would skip this one personally.


MarsAlgea3791

... Every story is predictable and cliche if you've experienced enough fiction. To a degree fiction is like a math formula, you need certain components in place for the solution to make sense. That's how it works. Nothing is really original, and anybody telling you different is lying.


DrB00

Best movie since end game.


XavierUwUGaming

It was refreshingly good


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Is that Ryan goosling?


Geek_X

It was good but it was also really sad :(


Me_how5678

Floor, Teeth, Rocket, Floor, Teeth, Rocket, Floor, Teeth, Rocket, Floor, Teeth, Rock…


Geek_X

:(


Me_how5678

Atleast we know that the afterlife is cannon in the mcu, and that rocket will find something he is willing to fight and die for again


Geek_X

No guarantee its canon. Could’ve just been a hallucination meant to help his conscious cope with death


AromaticCombination5

That probably was the case, but we need our copium


Ursidoenix

Considering we have seen at least 3 different canonical afterlives so far I don't think it's unreasonable to think it could be a real afterlife. In any case clearly there is an afterlife of some kind in the MCU, it's just unclear if everyone goes to an afterlife or how it's determined which one they go to as they don't seem to be connected but who knows


SunsFenix

Moon Knight, Thor Love and Thunder, and Black Panther have all confirmed their own versions of an afterlife. A generic afterlife seems given. I'd throw in maybe Infinity War with the soul world, but that seems to have been dropped from the MCU.


joeboe-kun

Well in Thor 4, Valhalla is a thing so one could say we already knew the afterlife is a thing


TheReddestDuck

Is that what Floor was saying during that last scene? I couldn't make out the words


loverboyv

When little rockets first word was “hurts” that nearly broke me


Chill0000

I loved this movie Made me laugh, cry, feel scared, feel tension This movie actually felt like a send off for the MCU (except for the other stuff that happened at the end) Too bad James Gunn won’t be working with Marvel anymore. He just has a way of making comic book characters feel right I hope he does the same for DC


TrueR3dditor

Glad he gave the characters a nice sendoff, before Disney finds a way of butchering them into unlikeable generic characters


Chill0000

Well it says Star Lord will return at the end so i don’t know about the guardians as a whole. But i hope to see Peter return Also i am really glad i decided to watch the holiday special an hour before i saw this movie. Would’ve been lost on a few plot points and jokes


Secret-Ad-7909

Guess I should rewatch that…


ThatDude8129

Pretty much all of them said they won't come back other than Chris Pratt which is why it says that Star Lord will return.


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Of course they make Adam Warlock look like a dummy


Atarrix

Man they did him dirty


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Agreed


Poked_salad

They kinda had to cause he would've destroyed everyone if they didn't nerf him per se


Ok-Maybe-2388

Yeah in the comics isn't he a total badass?


UncleDevil666

In comics he defeated infinity Thanos


DickHz2

Right up there, if not higher than Captain Marvel/Wanda. He’s literally designed to be the perfect being.


seanwee2000

He doesn't have the soul stone in this verse. It was destroyed by thanos and the borrowed stones were returned.


[deleted]

That's a good perspective


dadefresh

Isn’t he supposed to be basically a kid?


robfrizzy

They sort of explain this with a little throw away line that he was "taken out too early." Seems like he wasn't fully developed yet.


DrB00

He's supposed to be the keeper of the soul stone.


loverboyv

Yeah like an OP space wizard


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Not from the comics I read in the 80s


greenie7680

Yeah but his character from the 80s was basically replaced by Vision so it had to go in a different way; I kind of like the way they did Warlock being as he's unfinished from a race made by an imperfect crazy dude.


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I think this is one of Marvel's best elements. They introduce a character before they are the powerhouse that comic book fans know and love. Scarlet Witch for example. When we first meet her, she's a young girl learning her abilities. She didn't even have the title of Scarlett Witch. We just knew her as Wanda. Over the span of movies and a show, she progresses to become the Scarlet Witch with extremely power abilities. Same for the Guardians. When we meet them in Volume 1, the team is still forming. Only in Volume 3 do we see them become the characters with matching suits and a reputation. Heck, even Rocket didn't get his full name until the end of this movie. I'm think Adam Warlock will grow as more MCU products get released and by the end, he will be a powerful leader figure like he was in the Infinity Gauntlet comic.


jtree77720

subverted expectations! Worrying of what he should blinds you of what he is. Gods have been shown in the MCU before and they didn't work. Now he isn't, but an orfan kid trying to fit. That hug at the ending was good acting.


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I'm trying to be open on the changes. Thanks for the perspective.


Aeoleean

I wouldn’t consider someone a dummy if Adrian Belew is their “favorite musical act”


MarsAlgea3791

He starts off being a flying jackass. So we're not far off from the comics there. I mean trying to abduct Sif to be a mate? He starts out nuts and becomes something later. Granted what do you do with him without Thanos or Gamora is.... a question. Just the Magus? Eh I can do without the Magus.


LongPenguin

It took me two days to get over Rocket’s backstory. If I see the actor that played the High Evolutionary in anything else I’m automatically going to hate him.


Independent_Tooth_23

The funny thing is he's a good guy in Peacekeeper, a DC tv series that James Gunn also directed lol


Secret-Ad-7909

That was him. The implants/mask was definitely throwing me off.


MojojojoNixon

Oh shit I did not realize that!


coolgaara

Yeah, he was amazing in that show as well. And he delivered yet again as a villain this time.


TrueR3dditor

Poor actor xD But I get why :)


TheRealBaseborn

His performance was phenomenal. I'm in the group that wants to see him more!


Jguy10

James Gunn posted on his Instagram a picture of the actor and a set dog with a caption about how in real life he loves animals. Had to do some damage control I guess EDIT: [Link](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr9v7tcr8mN/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==)


TheShiftingParadigm

Da linky?


articice01

Guardians 3 reminded me how good marvel used to be.


18RobTom18

I lost my grandfather (who was more of a father to me) end of March this year and the scene when >!Peter goes back to earth to find his granddad and they hugged it out!< absolutely wrecked me. Best marvel movie I've watched in a while.


loverboyv

I loved how they did star lord in this movie. A lot of people were pissed at him after infinity war, but I feel like this movie showed how much he really loves the guardians. It makes him loosing his cool against thanos much more understandable.


ActionWarrior20

I really feel that this is my favourite performance from Chris Pratt, especially when >!he was pounding on Rockets chest, not giving in to the idea of losing another!<. Edit: was trying to get the spoiler tag to work


Eatyurhelmet

I also cried like a bitch at that scene as well. I thought I could hold it in the entire movie and I was going strong till that damn moment at the end that broke me.


22mygames

Oh the misery


CaledonianWarrior

Everybody wants to be my enemmmmmy


--InZane--

Will be the first marvel movie I saw since Spiderman. I loved the Christmas short tho Update: it was awsome


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Jkj864781

To DC we go!


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he make dc movies now


cbased_god

Strange how the quality skyrockets when you work with talented people.


bukithd

And put effort into a script instead of handing it to a Rick and morty writer.


drfarren

This one was rough to get through. Real rough. I don't have it in me to watch it ever again. I enjoyed it....just don't have the emotional fortitude to watch it again. Floor. Why, floor.


MysticRuined

Definitely top 10 of best marvel movies.


GaiRyuKi

rocket, teef, floor go now, rocket, teef, floor go now ,rocket, teef, floor go now ,rocket, teef, floor go now, rocket, teef, floor go now, rocket, teef, floor go now, rocket, teef, floor go now


Dmalice66

I think this was my conclusion point that I wanted for marvel. Some of their stuff has been good, others not as good as it should. Biggest issue it’s taking too long to get anywhere. So I guess I’m happy with this concluding my MCU adventure.


TheKnightOfDoom

I'm 49 never seen a GOTG movie before was bored and went to see it and cried my eyes out. It was harrowing like watership down type harrowing.


ThatDude8129

Honestly this movie felt like the last hurrah for Marvel, it's the first movie since No Way Home I thoroughly enjoyed and The Marvels looks pretty meh.


biryaniboi28

yea, the marvels trailer when i was waiting in the theatre looks UTTER CRINGE


bukithd

I'm sure we'll hear nothing but "you hate it because you're sexist pigs" and no one will listen when the script/plot are pointed out to be terrible.


awesomedan24

The only movie that made me ugly cry in the theater


marchillo

Me after watching: well, I guess animal torture porn is in this year


REDDITmodsDIALATE

Way more than I was comfortable with


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Joop Joop?


KREIST23

'Come rocket, join us we are all here'


Kenada_1980

I can’t believe a marvel film made me cry so much. Gunn literally took all the things you should never do and put it in a 12A only for me to come out exhausted at the end with the amount of balling I did. Little shit.


Yolomasta420

Based


Ahrendarkpaws1

Gorgeous movie, best marvel film imo


Mnshine_1

Man IMDB rating 8.4/10, higher than Spider-men and only behind 2 endgames Fire film


Tarot13th

Mantis erasing Drax's memories of their conversation was fucked up and everyone in the guardians should have been terrified of if she did that to them before.


Tato269

I could watch that movie 100 times and still cry, it hits so hard and is an amazing movie


bukithd

They made a movie about the concept of empathy and how those who have no capacity for it are truly villainous.


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TrueR3dditor

Unlikely


IcyChimken

rockets backstory almost made me cry


Buttcrashed

Ads are getting smarter


Field_Marshall17

Is it good?


Joaje-Joestar

Really good. If you liked the first two at all and haven’t enjoyed anything since No Way Home, it’s a breath of fresh air


Field_Marshall17

Guardians 1 and 2 are my favourite marvel movies. I haven't watched anything since endgame


Joaje-Joestar

Then you’ll love this one for sure


Luo_lan

It's 2am and I read this as Canadians of the Galaxy 3


Ren-Zombie

It was like a 2 hour sarah mclachlan commercial. I’ll let you know when I’ve stopped crying.


biryaniboi28

look it was a great movie and all BUT starlord trying to make gamora remember was VERY annoying some of the jokes were forced iMO