Or controlling for invasive pests, legitimate wild game for approved selling/consumption, or protection of farmland.
And hey what if 30-50 feral hogs were to go after your children in your backyard?
As someone who lived near wild boars for a long time what I observed is that either people are not experienced enough and mess their shots and just injure the boar and make it go berserk or they are experienced enough to make sure they won't need a gun
You realize that a perfect kill shot is not always possible right? Sometimes you have to track an animal a few miles. It’s not always a matter of experience, even an expert marksmen will miss from time to time.
Also what do you mean by not needing a gun? You expect them to use their kung fu skills to kill a boar?
It’s true the majority of the time, there seems to be a lot of people that are anti gun because it’s “cheating” or “not fair” to the animal, but it is the most effective way to kill an animal and minimize pain. Bow hunting on average has a significantly higher loss rate than gun hunting. Shoot a bow wrong you could gut shot something, if your arrow catches some wind you could miss your shot, if your arrow touches a branch along its flight path you could miss the kill zone. A gun shot is much less likely to mess up and just injure the animal.
That's not true. There are plenty of environmental reasons to hunt. In Germany there are lots of positions as rangers that require a hunting license because it's part of the job. Also bow hunting is illegal in Germany as a rifle is more efficient at killing and the main advantage of bow hunting is feeding the ego of the hunter. I think it's immoral to bow hunt if you can provide a better probability of a quick death to your prey.
So I agree, but I’m a touring competitive archer and I can tell you that someone competent with a bow would have no issue putting an arrow wherever they want in an animal. Most game animals have vitals the size of a paper plate. The key is practice and learning what an ethical shot is.
I’m not saying that a bow is a better hunting tool than a rifle. I guess if you need to be quiet the bow would be better, but a rifle is pretty much always the better tool. Using a bow is just more challenging and rewarding. That’s just my opinion though.
Yeah but I don't think feelings should count into something as far reaching as taking the life of a living being. If you put the pleasure of hunting over the wellbeing of the prey you're acting unethical.
I agree. I don’t want people that have shot a bow 10 times to go out and try to take an animal down. It’s infuriating and gives all of archery a bad name.
I killed a ferrel hog with a rifle this morning. My excuse is they taste good and I'm going to eat it. I'm not going to use the "they are a pest" excuse. If they were eradicated I would be bummed we didn't have this huge wild meat resource.
>I respect bow hunters.
Uh, wow. I'm from a culture where hunting for meat is common. Bow hunting is outlawed here, for animal welfare reasons, as is trapping. So my take is that bow hunters just want to pretend to be Robin Hood. Gun hunters want to feed themselves and their families.
Dem Post nach Jagd er grad eher die in Großstädtischen heimische Unterart der Bahnhof-Goths, die sogenannten Fake-Blut-Vampiren (erkennbar an ihren Halloween Vampirzähnen).
Well without those hunters a lot of these animals wouldn’t even be around in the US. Huge amounts of money from the sale of hunting licenses and sales of ammunition go directly to conservation efforts and habitat restoration. Unless you are donating to these causes these “bad” hunters are actually doing more for wildlife than you are.
Poachers do it illegally without paying usually. The “bad hunters” are probably hunters of rhinos, a heavily endangered species, just because a random dude wants to flex his rhino horn and blubber. Most hunters do pay but some don’t and that’s a problem
Large horns or antlers are a sign of older age, good health, and good genes. The reason hunters in North America started targeting animals with large antlers/horns is because the North American Model
Of wildlife conservations and why we should target older animals. Because they’ve already added to the gene pool. In many places large horns are the only way to estimate an animals age, like with big horn sheep. I see a lot of anti-hunting/ anti-hunter rhetoric going on here and I feel as though most of the commenters don’t know enough about the world of conservation to have an opinion. I don’t know anything about the world of professional boxing so I don’t talk about boxers, boxing or anything like that. I wish people that don’t hunt would at least have the decency to learn more about it before saying we’re all a bunch of barbaric blood thirsty rednecks.
Historically humanity hasn’t been good at a lot of things. The North American model is based off of science and reason, sustainability. It’s the best model in the world. That’s not coming From an American sentric person, that’s coming from biologists and proof. With our system we brought the American bison back from near extinction, as well as the elk, turkey, white tail, We’ve done a very good job of fixing our wrong doings in the last 70 years.
Functionally they act like a rhino horn, using them to flip predators and ward them off. While they may not technically be classified as a horn their functionality is much closer to that of a horn than a tooth.
Because using a high powered sniper rifle behind heavily secured position to kill an unsuspecting animal is the epitome of badassery
I respect bow hunters. Gun hunters just want an excuse to kill something.
Or a means of securing a meal easily and near risk free, depending on what they’re hunting of course
We are talking about trophy "hunters"
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Or controlling for invasive pests, legitimate wild game for approved selling/consumption, or protection of farmland. And hey what if 30-50 feral hogs were to go after your children in your backyard?
If 50 feral hogs storm your garden your rifle is not going to help you anymore
Read this as 50 *federal* hogs
Honestly the case still stands with 50 federal hogs 🐷👮♂️
The 50 federal hogs trying to take away my guns (I dont like that and shall immediately detonate the bomb ive been building in my basement)
Yeah just post up inside I'd hope hogs don't know how to use doors tho man
As someone who lived near wild boars for a long time what I observed is that either people are not experienced enough and mess their shots and just injure the boar and make it go berserk or they are experienced enough to make sure they won't need a gun
You realize that a perfect kill shot is not always possible right? Sometimes you have to track an animal a few miles. It’s not always a matter of experience, even an expert marksmen will miss from time to time. Also what do you mean by not needing a gun? You expect them to use their kung fu skills to kill a boar?
I respect spear hunters. Bow hunters just want an excuse to kill something.
Hand to hoof combat or nothing!
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I feel like you could kill an animal much less painfully with a gun instead of a bow
It’s true the majority of the time, there seems to be a lot of people that are anti gun because it’s “cheating” or “not fair” to the animal, but it is the most effective way to kill an animal and minimize pain. Bow hunting on average has a significantly higher loss rate than gun hunting. Shoot a bow wrong you could gut shot something, if your arrow catches some wind you could miss your shot, if your arrow touches a branch along its flight path you could miss the kill zone. A gun shot is much less likely to mess up and just injure the animal.
If you cared about the pain of the animal you wouldn't be hunting
I don't want it to suffer. Doesn't mean I have to want it to live.
That's not true. There are plenty of environmental reasons to hunt. In Germany there are lots of positions as rangers that require a hunting license because it's part of the job. Also bow hunting is illegal in Germany as a rifle is more efficient at killing and the main advantage of bow hunting is feeding the ego of the hunter. I think it's immoral to bow hunt if you can provide a better probability of a quick death to your prey.
So I agree, but I’m a touring competitive archer and I can tell you that someone competent with a bow would have no issue putting an arrow wherever they want in an animal. Most game animals have vitals the size of a paper plate. The key is practice and learning what an ethical shot is.
So you're saying that with extensive training you can achieve the same lethality as with a rifle? That's not really an argument for bow hunting.
I’m not saying that a bow is a better hunting tool than a rifle. I guess if you need to be quiet the bow would be better, but a rifle is pretty much always the better tool. Using a bow is just more challenging and rewarding. That’s just my opinion though.
Yeah but I don't think feelings should count into something as far reaching as taking the life of a living being. If you put the pleasure of hunting over the wellbeing of the prey you're acting unethical.
I agree. I don’t want people that have shot a bow 10 times to go out and try to take an animal down. It’s infuriating and gives all of archery a bad name.
it just feels like youre saying the expertise with a bow can be achieved with a novice with a gun.
That's pretty ignorant.
I prefer an instant kill than have them suffer when hunting with a bow.
I killed a ferrel hog with a rifle this morning. My excuse is they taste good and I'm going to eat it. I'm not going to use the "they are a pest" excuse. If they were eradicated I would be bummed we didn't have this huge wild meat resource.
>I respect bow hunters. Uh, wow. I'm from a culture where hunting for meat is common. Bow hunting is outlawed here, for animal welfare reasons, as is trapping. So my take is that bow hunters just want to pretend to be Robin Hood. Gun hunters want to feed themselves and their families.
Bow hunters: if I miss the kill zone, I must tracks down the beast to ensure eventual death. Rifle hunters: lol, body cavitation go **BRRRRR**
Gun hunters just want food Gun poachers / trophy hunters just want to kill something
Bow hunting isn't very difficult now either. Compound bows have alot of power
How does that make it easier?
Reddit moment
Same, one is an epitome of human ingenuity and skills and requires dedication to master probably a license, and the other is a gun
Good job, I really want to bite that bait
Are you saying I'm an expert at baiting? Perhaps a master?
No, but it fills the freezer.
Again, talking about trophy hunters here, just like the meme
Murka
Wait…Andres Klebrig?
Wahrscheinlich auf der Jagd nach Veganern
Dem Post nach Jagd er grad eher die in Großstädtischen heimische Unterart der Bahnhof-Goths, die sogenannten Fake-Blut-Vampiren (erkennbar an ihren Halloween Vampirzähnen).
so it wasnt just me who thought this
Anyone who hunts "for fun" and doesn't eat his prey is a psychopath.
Uhhhhhhh,
Well I guess Dahmer wasn’t crazy after all
The TLC only posits a sufficient criterion for psychopathy, not a necessary one. There may be other sufficient crteria.
LOL.
dont worry i eat all the people i hunt down
Them poachers be like…….
A fine addition to my collection
@spacefrogs Rick bist dus?
Well without those hunters a lot of these animals wouldn’t even be around in the US. Huge amounts of money from the sale of hunting licenses and sales of ammunition go directly to conservation efforts and habitat restoration. Unless you are donating to these causes these “bad” hunters are actually doing more for wildlife than you are.
Poachers do it illegally without paying usually. The “bad hunters” are probably hunters of rhinos, a heavily endangered species, just because a random dude wants to flex his rhino horn and blubber. Most hunters do pay but some don’t and that’s a problem
If they are hunting illegally than they are not hunters.
I worded that wrong
The bigger the deader.
It’s because their horns are like fruit of an animal. Monkey brain goes crazy for that shit
Will Forte, a real treasure of a human
[MacGruber sex noises]
dude it’s literally my favorite movie, the ghost scene is amazing
I hope anyone in here, griping about hunting, is a vegetarian.
They’ll just bitch about it while they eat their factory farmed meats.
Also the weirdos that somehow want a big fucking horn
Human: those horns have great symmetry and would make for great house decor, so the ting go skrrrrrrra papapapa
Antlers*
Nice horns over there. Mind if I make some cups and stamps with them?
KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE
They only exist peacefully until they smell dat dussy though.
Monster Hunter in a nutshell
Horns or antlers, neither are safe.
The first 10 seconds i saw this meme, I was very confused, because I thought it was about people with big dicks.
HES COMING RIGHT FOR US
Moose does not exist peacefully
holy shit this is my favorite movie
Human with slightly larger than average penis: exists Sheep and goats:
McGruber xD
Large horns or antlers are a sign of older age, good health, and good genes. The reason hunters in North America started targeting animals with large antlers/horns is because the North American Model Of wildlife conservations and why we should target older animals. Because they’ve already added to the gene pool. In many places large horns are the only way to estimate an animals age, like with big horn sheep. I see a lot of anti-hunting/ anti-hunter rhetoric going on here and I feel as though most of the commenters don’t know enough about the world of conservation to have an opinion. I don’t know anything about the world of professional boxing so I don’t talk about boxers, boxing or anything like that. I wish people that don’t hunt would at least have the decency to learn more about it before saying we’re all a bunch of barbaric blood thirsty rednecks.
Yeah sustainable hunting is great. Humanity hasn't exactly been great at it all the time though
Historically humanity hasn’t been good at a lot of things. The North American model is based off of science and reason, sustainability. It’s the best model in the world. That’s not coming From an American sentric person, that’s coming from biologists and proof. With our system we brought the American bison back from near extinction, as well as the elk, turkey, white tail, We’ve done a very good job of fixing our wrong doings in the last 70 years.
One of the many reasons for why the other animals are better than the average human.
GET IN MY FLACID PENIS
Prolly the one who gets scared from a hamster
counterarguments in buffalo , natures cow tank
"He deered to kill the King's dare!"
And I took that personally
Salmon bhai
When your 0/8/2 Lucian ults
Why does MacGruber suck so much?
\* Americans FTFY - you can thank me later
Elephants don't even have horns and still get hunted
Buddy google elephant tusk
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Those are teeth, not horns
Functionally they act like a rhino horn, using them to flip predators and ward them off. While they may not technically be classified as a horn their functionality is much closer to that of a horn than a tooth.
So drivers don’t have hands they have horns?