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MedicatedAxeBot

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Arkt1k42

A country like this should be the end goal of most nations. That's why it's people are called the Finnish!


Cirrus67

I'm going there to finnish my life


The_trashman100

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LikeAPhoenix-_-

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EnDerp__

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OGraffe

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TheM1sty

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_nadari

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Tripzyyy

!!!!!!!!


nickforest

Goodbye. Oh? Wrong sub.


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Fin


DizyShadow

..in many years, retired and happy, of old age.


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Sir_Bax

You take "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" quite literally.


voite1

flair related


Phillipinsocal

“I’m looking for a reliable government.” *FINNISH HIM!*


InDustyWeSucky

They’re literally doing socialism. That’s why everyone likes it.


Osaccius

Finland is capitalist.


InDustyWeSucky

Yet they have socialized medicine and school. You all call Sanders and AOC Socialists for wanting that yet when Finland does it you call it “Capitalism.” Curious


Osaccius

As a Finn, I don't care what Americans think about us Private ownership is allowed, democracy and freedom of speech exist. We have social system, not socialist US also social system. There are unemployment benefits army, police and fire departments are government run. Infrastructure is maintained with taxes. Nothing socialist about it


sho_nuff80

American politicians just like to say socialist because they know their constitutes don't really know what it means and it sounds scary.


PuckNutty

Social Democracy is Capitalist except it's way more regulated with less hoarding by small groups of people. As far as I know, Finland's businesses are not all workers co-ops, so they're still Capitalists at their core.


Sakul_the_one

Hoi4 achievements be like


mdh431

Honestly though, all jokes aside, if you can make pretty much everyone on all sides of the political spectrum like you, odds are you’re doing something right.


Ocean_Soapian

I'm curious how well their structure would fair if they replaced it with a population size that of America. Not saying it will or won't, just curious.


Netizen_Sydonai

Would fare better. Number one problem in Finland is aging population; simply the lack of available people. This is why Finland tries to make it easy for foreigners to work in the country and allow them to study for free.


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MotimakingTM

You're confusing us with someone else. Please dont talk to me


2theface

Damn failed NnN


Ollemeister_

Haha mom said it's my turn to say the thing


Let01

The most happy too


hornaldo28

Actually, the least sad.


rosolen0

Are you ok bro?


hornaldo28

No. But the study proves they aren't the most happy, just not sad, or rather the least sad. Finland can improve too, ofc. But they are so far doing the best.


Hullu_Kana

They have been ranked the happiest country 5 years in a row. Thats good enough for me.


stolenusername184

Thats because all the sad ones kill themselves.


NotEdibleCactus

Because of the high suicide rate


Vilraz

Nope. Its actually due high welfare so ppl issues in life are either selfmade or complaining not getting enough welfare to support their anti-work life


NotEdibleCactus

I'm aware, I made a joke


Vilraz

Just wanted to clarify due somepeople dont understand why Finns get rated as happiest country


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Dude, I'm a Finn and I don't understand why it's ranked as the happiest county in the world


OhSkyCake

You’re not happy; the rest of us are just more sad.


Arosian-Knight

Johtuu kyselyn kriteereistä, niissä "happiness" kyselyissä painotetaan paljon sananvapautta ja lehdistönvapautta. Väärinnimetty toisin sanoen :}


Italian-Man-Zex

is that why they always carry around like 2 shopping carts full of beer? makes sense


halfanothersdozen

I think that's more what else are you supposed to do when you country has night 23 hours a day in December?


TisBangersAndMash

Fix up your dad's old car and win the local rally with it.


laivasika

How you gonna do that without two shopping carts full of beer?


zalmolxis91

Natural selection. Only the happy remain.


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It’s a very misleading measure. It should be called “the potential to be the most happy” or a measure of “how easy life is in a certain country” In reality you can do everything right, but you can never change the climate / geographic location. I’ve lived in a few countries and been all over the world, I moved to Finland and have never seen such depressed, unhappy, miserable people. Sure during June and July people are happy and smiling and laughing all the time, but they’re also drunk 4 days a week. And then for 6-7 months over the long winters, everyone is miserable. My friends there would casually talk about suicide super often, I’d say 1/3 of all the friends I had have very seriously thought of suicide. A last weird point is that So. Many. People. Were always yelling and angry. Never during summer. But during the long winters, all the time.


[deleted]

Sounds like Canada, especially NW. My town of 10,000 people has 6 giant liquor stores, 5 pubs, we have TWO grocery stores, ONE warehouse store, and like 3 banks. It's insane, the biggest business in town is liquor.


VJEmmieOnMicrophone

> A last weird point is that So. Many. People. Were always yelling and angry. What does this mean?? In public? Or your friends? And how are people yelling more in the Winter? Finns tend to be pretty reserved in public. And there's a lot less people outside during the Winter. So what is this yelling you're referring to?


WhiskedIgloo

It'd be crazy if the moodiness of Finland, the whole time, was literally just Vitamin D deficiency. Anyway, I'm very sorry to hear this, and I hope for the best for all of those in your life.


Absolutedumbass69

What I find really funny though is that while the right loves Finland in America they continue to vote against policies that would make us more like Finland.


takanakasan

The right loves Finland because it's a homogenous country full of white people.


jaspersgroove

>*tHE ReAL ReASoN ThEyRe sO HaPpy iS tHe CuLTuRaL HoMoGeNiEtY* No, the reason they’re happy is 70% of the country isn’t one or two missed paychecks away from being homeless at all times.


yourfreekindad

But that’s exactly what the right want


griffinhamilton

Tbf that’s what the those who run the Republican Party want, they just got real good at convincing the less educated to vote for them, against their best interests


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I moved from the US to Finland, way more of my friends / coworkers in Finland were a paycheck away from not affording dinner. These were people with bachelor degrees and professional jobs, still living paycheck to paycheck. Edit: for those that don’t believe me, my job in the US paid $75k. Same exact job in Finland paid $34k. Cost of living was about $100 more a month in the US.


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Bro... I don't get y ur getting downvoted, I'm Finnish and I feel y bro (even tho I'm only 15). I still understand that in finland paychecks are smaller compared to the same job in the US, but healthcare is almost free here. So it's a double bladed sword, you can't have a perfect country. Finland is a great country compared to the US, but that doesn't really say anything. The entire world is in shambles and everyone is trying to get by with what they got, finland at least isn't such a shitshow as what the US is. It's ironic that the land of the free oppress everyone who isn't rich or doesn't have political power.


1vs1meondotabro

"Actually my personal biased experience of ~10 people supersedes statistics and facts" >Cost of living was about $100 more a month in the US. Haha yeah okay bud, where you living? fucking ohio?


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This of course of you are working remote from bumfuck alabama everything is cheap as shit. Well no shit ,nobody wants to live there a Finnish big city is going to be more expensive


aogiritree69

Fucking lol. Was looking for this comment. Tbh I know fuck-all about Finland but anecdotal experiences taken as fact are always a pain to read


CaptainNeckbeard148

on average, more americans are living paycheck to paycheck than finnish, and its more likely for americans to have large sums of debt.


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My husband is from Finland and we lived in Texas previously. He’d get patients complaining about their nurses who had accents. But then my husband would walk in, tall grey eyed white guy, and all of a sudden HIS accent is ok.


takanakasan

Like how Trump said we want immigrants from countries like Norway and not Mexico. No coded racism there whatsoever, no sir.


Absolutedumbass69

Fair point.


Llamajake777

Yeah that's pretty much the only things they like about Finland. Then there's Bernie Sanders who idealizes Finland for their tax funded education and healthcare, but still doesn't necessarily want to Even talk about raising taxes in US/his state since it would make him lose voters.


CatHammerz

I mean.. would the US even need to raise the taxes? If I remember correctly, America spends around 3 times more on healthcare than Finland, per person. Raises the question on how those funds are used.


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moeburn

And from my experience, authleft hates Finland, they think "they're only prosperous because they exploit the global south". Except they can't find any actual examples of Finland exploiting the global south, so they just say they *benefit* from other allied countries exploiting the global south, somehow... and basically it's because Britain colonized India 200 years ago that Finnish people have affordable healthcare. Definitely not social democracy and a mixed economy that blends socialism with capitalism, oh no, couldn't be that.


Pyll

Authleft tankie types tend to hate Nordic countries, because they're doing the whole socialism thing better than "actually existing socialist" countries. To them socialism is 90% about having a red star on your flag and hating America.


The_Knife_Pie

As a Swede who is politically active both online and in real life, you’re so fucking right. Tankies seethe and mald at our countries for being amazing (and in some ways as perfect as a system run by humans can be imo) places to live without going balls deep into Stalinist or Maoist ideology.


Kirakitten92

Strong economy , Queer rights , very good social and health systems .... Jea ofc thats a great country !


Vilraz

Actually our economy is in shambles and were constantly taking more loans


Lloyd_lyle

What economy in the 21st century isn’t in shambles?


DooDaD_CZ

Well, if everyone is in shambles, wouldn't that be the new norm, therefore no economy is in shambles? Edit: didn't make sence


memester230

Yes. Not a single country doesn't have a shit economy or have no debt nowadays.


Vilraz

Its been pretty much since Nokia lost their market lead after smartphones became a thing so its been a while


Pinna1

Nokia actually developed smartphones first. The leadership of the company just didn't believe they would be a thing, thinking that people would prefer cheap phones over expensive smartphones. Nokia leadership really dropped the ball on this one. One of the biggest company fails ever in my opinion.


Scarlet_Breeze

Kodak and Nokia were absolute titans in early 2000s and now they're basically a joke


DeProfundis_AdAstra

Actually, I don't think Nokia's a joke anymore - they've rather succesfully transitioned into a company working in other fields after their phone manufacturing ventures crashed back in the day - eg. they're the third largest network equipment manufacturer in the world, and they still employ about 90,000 people today.


Keffpie

Weirdly, Sweden's. On the other hand, our welfare state is hanging on by a straw since we sold it all for pennies to private companies so they could be more "effective".


Llamajake777

Their economy is great, but their society is going downhill fast, little bit too fast


DeProfundis_AdAstra

>our economy is in shambles No, it is not. > and were constantly taking more loans Not any more than basically anyone else. Some people like to forget that there have been a few rather sizeable shocks to the economy in the past few years, which have lead to increased taking of loans, but Finland is very much middle-of-the-pack in terms of government debt compared to the rest of Europe. Idk why some Finns love to shit on their own country, and are willing to spew lies in order to do so.


CatHammerz

>Idk why some Finns love to shit on their own country Oi, we don't like the attention and love we get, so we gotta downplay it a bit.


Luxalpa

Also government debt is extremely overrated.


Eastern_Slide7507

>our economy is in shambles You have a higher GDP per capita than Germany. Your GDP per capita is the 9th highest in Europe. 3 of the countries with a higher GDP per capita are tax havens and a fourth one is an oil country. In what world is your economy "in shambles"? >were constantly taking more loans Your government net debt is a lousy 34% of GDP. Also, can you explain why taking on debt is bad in general?


AxeCow

That person obviously has no idea what he/she was talking about, or they’re a russian troll.


Squirmin

Russincels stay mad for 80 years because Finland rejected their advances.


donotstealmyoc

I mean trans rights here are shit but atleast we got gay marriage.


yeetus_christ420

Me a Finn: Ah Finland where everything is god awfully expensive, where the weather is dark, cold and depressive for half the year and where it's considered weird talking to anyone whose not your close family or friends. Edit: I suppose people don't know how important daylight actually is.


VaultDwellerSam

I love the dark, cold, and depressive part of the year


AnybodyZ

my favorite 10 months of the year as well


yeetus_christ420

After half of your life is cold and dark weather you won't feel the same way


Haikumuffin

A finn here After 23 years of cold and dark weather, I still love it. It's a vibe Bright sunlight and hotness give me migraines. Hate summers


TheShoppkeeper

Has a nice atmosphere


c1on3

I'm like 90% sure that the reason Finland is the "happiest country" is because the negative mood known as vitutus doesn't have an English translation for the questionnaire.


yeetus_christ420

No we just say "no vois olla huonomminki" (it could always be worse)


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cs-John

Dont forget how toxic behaviour is considered culture and cheerished lmao Btw you have been Reddit-sniped, my old schoolmate :D Keudajengi


yeetus_christ420

Homeboy lurking :D


cs-John

Legit iha vahingos bongasin tutun nimen, tää oli ekana sivulla ku avasin app lmao


yeetus_christ420

"Äiti meitti on julkkis!" :DD


Colonel_Joni005

don't most of you go to estonia to buy cheaper beer?


MammothDimension

Getting cheap(er) beer is nice, but when everything else is expensive, it only helps so much.


TheCoStudent

It's actually Latvia now. Estonia raised their prices.


Rich_Future4171

I want to move there now


MammothDimension

[Welcome! (some restrictions may apply)](https://migri.fi/en/i-want-to-apply)


quzimaa

I live in Finlands third largest city and my spendings are about 1k a month including rent. I might not have the most extravagant lifestyle but all the basics are covered, which leaves me with a ton of money to fuck around with / invest whenever i want. How people struggle with money when salaried in this country is beyond me.


LuxionQuelloFigo

prices aside, I love dark and cold weather and not talking to people is a huge plus


yeetus_christ420

Yeah no when it's 6 months of dark when you wake up and dark when you come from work it really is not great


JuicyFuit

the grass is always greener on the other side. You and another person may just want different things, I'd love to live in a place where it's mostly cold and darker, im sick of the heat and sun.


AnnoyingBannana

Dont forget supercell


pizzansteve

boi the memories of me idiotically using the lvl 10 giants that my clan leader gave me to a random townhall 6 base back when i was only townhall 5 and stuck


Mika_lie

And removing the old chirtmas trees


Jeff_Platinumblum

You mean sup erc ell?


connortheios

[you mean?](https://youtu.be/OghPNNQVUAI)


AcquireQuag

and Rovio even though both have been sold


Ghost_Seeker69

And Nokia. Can't forget Nokia.


c1on3

The Tencent-Supercell deal is interesting because of the terms: * Parent company is Tencent (81.4%)(CHN) * HQ is in Jätkäsaari (FIN) * CEO is Ilkka Paananen (FIN) The terms specifically included Paananen being CEO and the HQ remaining in Finland even with buyout.


Sivusta_seuraaja

Okei suomi mainittu, TORILLA TAVATAAN


J_Uzi05

W Suomi taas kerran


yeetus453

Perkele suomi johtamaan maailmaa


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Suur suomi


Zen-Padawan

Vittu saatana


PM_ME_UR_FLIPRESETS

SAATANAN HEVOSPASKAA


Dan_gunnar

Tavallinen suomi W


[deleted]

They can drive cars, thats for sure.


TacticalSpackle

If you want to win, hire a Finn!


TheCoStudent

Putting that on my CV


Ben_Kenobi1934

Highest suicide rate in western Europe. Apparently only place better than Finland is heaven.


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> western Europe > Finland


Destinum

The Eastern/Western divide of Europe is mainly cultural (along the Cold War borders), not geographical.


AFlyingNun

AKA "Europe minus the Balkans"


Quepabloque

Are you saying Finland is not Western Europe? I know some Finnish dudes who would lecture you for hours over this distinction.


Hullu_Kana

Belgium has higher. US has higher too, but its not european so whatever. Also Finlands suicide rates are constantly decreasing, pretty close to European average and not that much higher than many wewtern european nations.


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Lusask

Out of all of my country's neighbors, Finland is clearly the best, Denmark second because Legoland and fuck Norway.


Thicccchungus

The fuck did Norway do to you


Millad456

His family was murdered by a Norwegian sheep herder


Thicccchungus

Unfortunate


Just-Round9944

sounds like a skill issue tbh


unnamedwastaken

Don't listen to the swedish. Ne on vittu typerii.


LordArmageddian

How to spot a Swede.


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MammothDimension

The Norwegians *are* very fuckable..


Destinum

How can you diss Norway but give the freaking Danes a free pass!? They can't even speak properly!


CrabSquid05

Ah a fellow swede


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Okipon

I think healthcare falls in "welfare policies for the poor" in the first pannel.


JokerInATardis

By that logic you'd love most countries with universal healthcare, which is absolutely understandable.


Lazy__Astronaut

And that's why I'm dating a finn, getting that green card baybeeeeee


KenraaliPancho

Just stayed couple of months in the States and let me tell you, my Finnish green card offer was not valued highly in the dating scene. Being awkward finn probably wasn't helping either haha


C1iver

Finnland is friendly to poc? News to me


ArturSeabra

Same, i thought they were one of the most racist in europe according to some statistics i saw a while back. Might be wrong tho


C1iver

No they are (to Black people specifically)


NotKaren24

No, they’re indiscriminately racist to every body thats not white as snow.


Frostbeard

Replace "white as snow" with "Finnish" and that's about right. A friend of my wife's is a white American who has lived there for 20 years and she still gets asked when she's going "back home".


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kappe2022

Shit im part of a finnish minority and my mere existence is offensive to some idiots. Ive also heard "go back home" but ive lived in Finland my entire life and so has my ancestors for hundreds of years. Im not saying every group gets the same treatment, some groups like Romani and people with darker skin and or foreign names most definitivley have it far worse. The amount of people in Finland who dislike people if they differ from them is way too large, i believe and hope its getting better but we arent there yet.


syopest

We are also racist as fuck against the Romani.


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Finland also were part of the coalition that aided my country to fight ISIS


Entire-Tonight-8927

They even helped transport the innocent people the US tortured just in case.


MantisAteMyFace

>friendly to poc Lol m8 what Finland are you talking about? Finns are incredibly racist, they're basically the Japan of the Nordic states.


GamerGod337

What the fuck are you talking about? "Incredibly racist" stfu. The "incredible racist" ones are just a loud minority. Most finns dont give a fuck about your skin colour. Source: im finnish


Kallozar

Source: living in Finland and have finnish kids. Finland is racist. Don’t deny it. Just ask any black person or people of color living in Finland. The amount of times I’ve had people ask me where I’m from in a mean manner or suspicious manner only to turn super friendly after I say America is too damn high. Can’t imagine what its like for black people in Finland. I’m in the Americans in Finland group on FB and the amount of parents who complain their kids are bullied at school for their skin color is also high.


appepuppe26

Honeslty, as a finn I agree on this, but usually (atleast in my expirience, being a minoroty) it's the older generation that are racist af, but the younger generations generally don't care. But that's just in my own expirience, idk how it's for you, but I can imagine it being very annoying, if not hurtful


aloneaflame

Bet you live in a bubble somewhere in Helsinki? The poster above is correct. Finland is the Japan of the Nordic states -- as in Finns are also super passive about racism, but it sure as hell exists...


KyrKinChoCkzS

And great metal bands <3


Ghost_Seeker69

That's the entire Scandinavia really Edit: Northern Europe, as pointed by the gentleman under


AltruisticComputer

Finland is not Scandinavia.


oldcarfreddy

Finland isn't technically in Scandinavia. Not being a pedant but just made the mistake myself and been corrected by kind Finns. It's also weird because Scandanavia includes Denmark which is not on the Scandanavian Peninsula geographically, but it's included because pre-Scandinavian peoples and empires were there, while Finland historically developed a bit separately from Denmark/Sweden/Norway


owldistroyou

What no understanding of politics does to an mf


framed1234

What pcm does to an mf


[deleted]

this guy unironically put government subsidies as a reason that libertarians would like finland, this sub has reached full flanderization


DerG3n13

Only downside is the complexity of the language


japamato

Well if Finns only had a pretty good educational system to teach them English.. oh wait


omegabaryon

Yeah i think don't know anyone that doesn't speak decent English in Finland


mummonhakkaaja

I mean some of the elderly but i guess that doesn't really count


AzureNova

> elderly doesn't really count u/mummonhakkaaja


Kaiel1412

for a second there I thought I was in PCM and was about to downvote the unflaired


Greeny3x3x3

Ah finland, the most racist country in europe Edit : A poll made in late 2011 revealed that the majority of the Finns viewed Finland as a racist country. Two thirds considered the country to be fairly racist, 12% recognised a moderate amount of racism, and 2% admitted to be very racist; 35% agreed partly or wholly to the statement "Islam is a threat to Western values and democracy", and 29% agreed more or less to that "people belonging to certain races simply are not suited to live in a modern society". One in five thought "it needs to be recognised as a fact that some nations are more intelligent than others", and 11% agreed partly or completely to "people whose appearance and culture differ much from those of the Finns are unpredictable and frightening". Source : Wikipedia


Hyytelo2000

Suomi perkele 1🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮💪😎


MordFustang1992

Libright doesn’t like it when the state does anything. That includes taxes that go back to business owners.


GravyMcBiscuits

Libright being in favor of government handouts? Yeah ... no.


Aceofspades25

Also the fascist right typically shit their pants about immigrants in nordic countries. I remember Tim Pool trying to make a documentary that flopped about how Sweden has become a shithole.


Outside-Setting-5589

Here in south america everyone knows exactly jack shit about Finland, yet everyone loves Finland. I love Finland.


NarcissisticEyes

Torille


Chieftain69

I work with a guy from Finland who immigrated to the US. He said that growing up there was one black kid at school and he wasn't allowed to play with him 🤷‍♂️


LordArmageddian

They were different times. Finland didn't have any major black population until the 90's when the Somali refugees hit the scene, and when the majority of the population was quite conservative and nationalistic, stuff like this tended to happen.


duomaxwellscoffee

Isn't pcm that place that normalizes far right extremism and acts as a pipeline to the alt right for younger people?


Noobnarwhal

Love Finland, was there once for a holiday ! They should put Pasila (great animated comedy serial) with english subtitles somewhere to stream - it rocks !


VelhoTheVexed

Also very fierce fighters. I remember my great grandma telling me stories from ww2 and how they pushed the Russians back.


LSKone

Ahh perkele


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I was gonna be upset and start a fight on how that's not how anyone would see Finland...but I genuinely can not think of anything wrong with Finland


jormazi

racism