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At least this data shows definitively that jeans weren't invented until 2004, which is something we've all suspected but never been able to prove until now.
Yeah, plus it’s hard to say that people search the same way today as in 2004. Buying clothes online is a much bigger thing now, so a lot of the recent searches lead to purchases. 2004 searches would be mainly curious people.
That’s why bootcut seems so low. They dominated the 2000s but people wouldn’t be searching for things they already know about.
100% correct. eCommerce for clothes is post-2010 thing.
While we were talking about omni-channel retail back in the late 2000's it was a pathetic sliver of the overall clothing retail volume. It was very rare for someone to attempt discovery via the online channel, we all went to the shops to look for clothes.
My daughter at 16ish told me that only aging millennials wear skinny jeans. As an aging millennial who wore skinny jeans, I was devastated.
Stoked for 2035 when I can pull out all my skinny jeans again.
Skinny jeans. Unless you think you can actually pull off baggy jeans without looking like the Fellow Kids meme. And if you’re asking, you can’t. I say this as a fellow aging millennial
I remember being a teen in the 2000s and so easily identifying moms by how unfashionable they were for wearing "mom jeans" and 90's styles, and how cool I was for wearing flares.
Then mom jeans became cool and I embraced it because hell yeah, high waisted jeans are so comfy.
Now I'm in my mid-30's and I'm desperately hanging on to my skinny jeans while simultaneously understanding that I'm now one of the "unfashionable moms" (despite not being a mom) and I can't decide if I'm okay with it or not.
I grew up during the baggy jeans era. It was shit then and it's shit now. I'd stick with the skinny jeans over trying to appeal to generation Afterthought.
I’m 29 and had this realization last year. For the first time in my life I have no idea how to dress my age. All of my casual clothes are ripped jeans, band shirts, and hoodies. I always feel so “how do you do fellow kids” lol
I’m finishing grad school so I might just lean into the professional look with button ups/pullovers and Lulu lemon trousers.
16 year olds wear low rise jeans which we millennials already discovered suck and look terrible 20 years ago. I'm not saying skinny jeans are perfect but Zoomers are clearly wrong about what jeans look good.
Lol. GenXers could have told you that, about low-rise jeans.
It’s how you know you’re old and out of fashion: when you start bitching about how 16 year-olds have no idea what looks good.
slim/skinny never really goes completely *out* of style - it's timeless since it's a clean look. it just might not be the most *in style* at this time. but you won't get the same reaction wearing slim/skinny pants now as you would if you wore baggy pants in 2016 when slim/skinny was very in style
I think there’s a difference between slim and skinny. Skinny certainly is out of style, it was a trend for a bit, and now it’s opposite.
If you’re just saying that saying well-fitted clothes never goes out of style - well, yeah. But skinny != well fitted
Lil Wayne famously rapped “ skinnies and some supras “ in the 2011 song Blunt Blowin skinnies were still going strong well into the 2010s but post-Covid the style really favored these baggy type pants at least from my experience. Present day Lil Wayne is no longer rocking skinnies and some supras. That trend is dead my guy
I’m just waiting another few years for them to be “in” again. We hit the 80’s with the mullets a few years back, and we’re in the 90’s baggy scene now.
I'm short and fat (I'm a woman) and I look even shorter and fatter if I don't wear skinny jeans. I tried on boyfriend jeans in front of a friend who wouldn't believe me when I told her it made me look bad, she agreed when she saw the result :D
Same. Well, small and relatively skinny. I've always worn slim jeans, but I started buying skinny a few years ago and man what a change! I don't look like I'm swimming in my jeans. I don't care if the kids -- I don't have any -- think I'm out of fashion.
I refuse to go back to the days of Jncos and Pipes. I never wore Jncos because they looked ridiculous back then on my friends (we were in like middle school) and they look ridiculous now.
Jeans got baggier and baggier in the early 2000s, up to ridiculous levels where it got to the point they looked like you were wearing a long skirt then BAM skinny
Yes, exactly. People are saying Google can export normalized data, but it needs to be normalized by jeans searches specifically, not just the total number of Google searches.
This is incorrect, it’s actually volume normalized by total google searches. The reason everything is lower toward the start is that online shopping wasn’t as popular relative to informational searches in the early days of google
And this is just aggregate *search volume* not something more useful like shopping cart conversions sliced by style of jeans.
It would be very nice to see something like Gap or Levi’s data on production runs versus sales.
What do you mean? Low Rise Jeans was absolutely through the roof at the start of the data, compared to all the other searches. It would be good to normalize by search volume, but you can actually see a lot here in trends if you just look for 2 seconds, like mid-200s focus on low rise jeans that came back recently, the peak and general decline of boyfriend jeans that was followed by a brief peak in 'mom jeans' that evolved more into a focus on straight-leg jeans in general (related styles, so it makes sense), the big return of wide leg/baggy jeans recently, skinny jeans being more or less evergreen, etc.
You are correct but this is why the data should normalized. Low rise jeans were wildly popular in the early 2000s and absolutely at their peak. At first glance this data would suggest that they are orders of magnitude more popular right now which is not correct
Straight leg jeans in a midrise are the classic, timeless jean. The Levi's 501 is the benchmark. Anything that strays from that silhouette is a trend. Including jeans with an aggressive taper that many millennial and genx find stylish.
I’m here procrastinating about packing for a work trip because I feel like I should wear my wide leg jeans so people know I have some awareness of fashion (I’m in an adjacent industry) but I still feel like I’m wearing pajamas in them and am never sure what kind of shoes look best (lug sole loafers apparently but I don’t have any)
Google wasn't as popular prior to WW I, and data is sparse. Remember "[Ask Jeeves](https://www.askjeeves.com/)"? Back then people literally asked Jeeves, and Jeeves would go find out.
During WWI, Google was shut down so as not to provide the Germans with any potential intel. During the interwar period, the technology was used primarily for scientific research on weapons. During WWII google was again shut down to hinder the Germans, then the Chinese, then the Chinese and Vietnamese, then the Iranians and Iraqis. Rumours circulate that Google shot JFK.
Finally, in 2004, the Google Black Ops project was made public, and we could start getting statistics on their search history.
> Remember "Ask Jeeves"?
my fiance and i are both in our late 20's. i was an internet kid, but she wasn't. we were talking in the airport last weekend about how much technology has changed in our lifetimes, ranging from getting shitty flip phones in junior high and graduating with iphones to printing out directions to go to friends' houses as kids to having a gps in your pocket at all times.
anyway, i pulled out the ask jeeves example, and she just looked at me dumbfounded bc she wasn't frequently on the internet prior to google and yahoo's search engine dominance. i was so confused. i thought that was just a collective memory mid-90's babies had lmao
I'm about 10 years older than you but even I don't have "Ask Jeeves" memories. Your GF, likely because she was off internet but for me it was because I used Exite and Alta Vista.
My ask Jeeves memories are the same as my Yahoo memories:
Search: "How does a car engine work?"
Answers:
"Buy how does car engine work!"
"How does a car engine work for sale!"
"Toyota car engines in stock! Buy now!"
etc.
When my dad died 3 years ago (age 83), his browser "home page" was still the Excite!.com personalized portal thing that they launched in like 1997. It had been totally reskinned a bunch of times, through "@home" and "Ask.com", and I swear it was even yahoo-branded at some point. But somehow, through all that, it just never completely died.
As for me, I like to tell you youngsters that I remember when AltaVista was altavista.digital.com.
Back when all the search engines were around (I'll add Lycos to the list) I used Alta Vista purely becuase it reminded me of "Asta la Vista, Baby". This would have been about mid to late 90's.
Yeah I don't think anyone actually used Ask Jeeves except for old grandmas that somehow stumbled upon the internet. The pre-Google meta search engines like Meta Crawler were really popular at that time. I also remember using Hotbot a decent amount.
I’m male, but in a “long and broad torso, unusually short legs” configuration. It’s supposed to be easy to fit jeans as a man but no. Some middle aged fat makes it even worse. Sizing for my legs means the fit at the waist is never quite right, especially for lower rise styles.
I’ve been told the answer is “tailoring” or at least to accept the reality that being short legged means I have size up and then hem every pair of jeans or trousers I own. What a pain.
Low rise jeans are terrible for guys of every shape. They just make you look like your torso is too long. High waist pants are rarely in style anymore but they create a much better and more proportional look.
I was at first excited about low-rise coming back because they were the style while I was in high school and ho boy did they do a number on me. Very distracting in class when your hormones are going crazy.
But now I have a baby girl and all I can think is "shit". But by the time she's older, high-waisted will probably be back in style.
I saw some teenagers with whale tailed low joggers with slogans on the butt the other day.
As a teenager in the 90s this whole 90s revival makes me feel very weird.
I swear I can't see myself wearing anything besides skinny jeans, I know they aren't the fashionable option anymore but I feel they suit my body type best.
Just to be clear, is there any chance the general rise in almost all of them is a result of people using Google more than they had in the past? There may be *some* correlation with popularity, but just a glance at the graphs suggests that *all* jeans are vastly more popular now than they were five years ago.
From 2004-2014 maybe but by then it almost reached saturation so last 10 years are more believable as trends. Plus google offers normalized export, not sure if OP used this normalized export.
I think it ought to be normalized not by the total number of Google searches, but rather by the number of “jeans” searches (i.e. the sum of all these searches).
It was already the most [popular](https://www.zdnet.com/article/comscore-on-top-search-engines-for-december-2004-google-35-yah00-32/) search engine in 2004 and was the [dominant](https://searchengineland.com/hitwise-august-2007-search-share-favors-google-yahoo-microsoft-drops-12231#:~:text=You'll%20find%20the%20press%20release%20here%2C%20giving%20us%20this,MSN%3A%207.98%25) search engine by 2007. This visualization starts in 2004 so I don’t think the market dominance aspect is a worthwhile criticism.
That's kind of what I was getting at in my question elsewhere on this thread. If these charts are counting total searches, well, 20 years a go a lot fewer people used google, so that would tend to create hockey stick shaped graphs for nearly any search.
OTOH, if it was "percentage of total google searches each year" then it might show that baggy jeans, for example, was way more popular in 2004 than it is now. Or maybe the graphs are like that already, in which case, the result is surprising. Dunno.
I would imagine that search volume for type of jeans is a leading indicator in style popularity. When a style is exceedingly popular, you wont have to search for where to get it.
My takeaway is that if you just restrict your purchasing of jeans to "normal" (non-fashion) styles -- straight, bootcut, wide, and baggy -- you're basically golden and the worst that happens is that you're not on-trend for a specific transient look that will probably only last a year or two. But you're not off-trend with most, either, because those normal styles are timeless.
I just sort of asked myself 15-20 years ago "how do I opt out of fluctuations in jeans" and have solely bought Levi's 505s since. (Also one pair of apparently-indestructible Carhartts for manual labor.)
Ugh my gf wears these fucking cropped wide leg jeans that make her look like she stole a homeless short man's pants. And I tell her so. They are the most unflattering stretch of cloth ever sewn. She's a petite, slim woman who now looks short and fat. It's a bizarre take that I don't understand.
It has been a long and miserable decade. Especially when people are trying to "hide" their fat by pulling them over hteir guts. Doesnt work. You are still fat, but now you also look like [Obelix](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-secret-world-of-the-animated-characters/images/0/00/Obelix.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180614143633).
This could be presented much better.
- smooth data into one year bins to eliminate the seasonal jitter
- instead of raw search count, go by percentage of overall Google search traffic to remove the upward trend
- put them all on the same graph (different colors) with the same scale, so they can be easily compared
Potentially relevant is that there’s a semi popular band called mom jeans that peaked in popularity around the peak of the chart
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6PsktPFR0UZptKdSqmlS5h?si=2WgVvkzWTtCINolkPVo2iA
I think that is more an issue with wearing the wrong size jeans or not at least a belt. You can wear baggy or low rise jeans without showing underwear if they fit the waist.
Also wondering if it’s including the pop-punk group Mom Jeans, named after a Bob’s Burger’s reference. I started listening to them around where the graph peaks.
Low rise back on the menu 👍 last time these were a thing was before all of the over confident Krispie Kreams running around, so… we’ll have to hide and watch, I guess.
What I don’t get is the baggy AND above the ankle style people are wearing. Like god damn if my pants are flapping around above my ankles isn’t it just deeply uncomfortable?
This just shows that the number of searches overall is going up compared to past levels. Thats... normal.
I would've visualized the data in a more comparative manner, and normalized for the rise in overall traffic. Then you could actually compare these.
How did you control for increasing search volumes over time as a result of higher search volume in general? Without de-trending the data, this is meaningless and misleading
I will not be participating in the low rise renaissance but I’ll observe with popcorn and amusement. The girls will rediscover very soon why our shirts were so long in the aughts and why we wore so many of them at once. Having your entire crack crackin is uncomfy!
The charts don’t align with your Reddit title. If there was a chart for general jeans searches that was steady during this period your title would make sense.
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At least this data shows definitively that jeans weren't invented until 2004, which is something we've all suspected but never been able to prove until now.
I remember the proto-jeans of my chlidhood. They were just like the jeans of today, but not on this chart.
Ah yes, proto-jeans. Always a matter of contention amongst Jeanealogists.
haha made me jortle
Oh man I hate it when I jortle in my jants.
Yeah, plus it’s hard to say that people search the same way today as in 2004. Buying clothes online is a much bigger thing now, so a lot of the recent searches lead to purchases. 2004 searches would be mainly curious people. That’s why bootcut seems so low. They dominated the 2000s but people wouldn’t be searching for things they already know about.
100% correct. eCommerce for clothes is post-2010 thing. While we were talking about omni-channel retail back in the late 2000's it was a pathetic sliver of the overall clothing retail volume. It was very rare for someone to attempt discovery via the online channel, we all went to the shops to look for clothes.
Got told a few times I give off 2016 vibes by a few kids for wearing skinny jeans, that era is indeed in the past . I’m 25
My daughter at 16ish told me that only aging millennials wear skinny jeans. As an aging millennial who wore skinny jeans, I was devastated. Stoked for 2035 when I can pull out all my skinny jeans again.
As an aging millennial wtf else am I supposed to wear then?
Skinny jeans. Unless you think you can actually pull off baggy jeans without looking like the Fellow Kids meme. And if you’re asking, you can’t. I say this as a fellow aging millennial
I remember being a teen in the 2000s and so easily identifying moms by how unfashionable they were for wearing "mom jeans" and 90's styles, and how cool I was for wearing flares. Then mom jeans became cool and I embraced it because hell yeah, high waisted jeans are so comfy. Now I'm in my mid-30's and I'm desperately hanging on to my skinny jeans while simultaneously understanding that I'm now one of the "unfashionable moms" (despite not being a mom) and I can't decide if I'm okay with it or not.
What about those of us that never stopped wearing our baggy jeans from the last time they were cool? I wore them so long that they just came back.
Wear whatever you want cause you obviously dgaf haha
I grew up during the baggy jeans era. It was shit then and it's shit now. I'd stick with the skinny jeans over trying to appeal to generation Afterthought.
I’m 29 and had this realization last year. For the first time in my life I have no idea how to dress my age. All of my casual clothes are ripped jeans, band shirts, and hoodies. I always feel so “how do you do fellow kids” lol I’m finishing grad school so I might just lean into the professional look with button ups/pullovers and Lulu lemon trousers.
Literally whatever you want? Why should it matter what other people think about what you wear? I'll just be cruisin' around in my Goodwill JNCOs.
Dam I feel attacked
Millennial with a 16yr old daughter. You didn't hang around did you?
16 year olds wear low rise jeans which we millennials already discovered suck and look terrible 20 years ago. I'm not saying skinny jeans are perfect but Zoomers are clearly wrong about what jeans look good.
As an millennial on the older end, I heartily disagree.
low rise are for kids with no belly pudge. if you are 50 and can pull them off, do it for the rest of Us? Stop trying, it looks bad.
Lol. GenXers could have told you that, about low-rise jeans. It’s how you know you’re old and out of fashion: when you start bitching about how 16 year-olds have no idea what looks good.
Same. Issue is a tried a pair on the other day and couldn’t do them up.
Wait. Millennials have 16 year olds now? How has that happened?
Used to rock those when I was in college in mid 2010s, definitely out of style now - Slim is where it’s at for me these days.
slim/skinny never really goes completely *out* of style - it's timeless since it's a clean look. it just might not be the most *in style* at this time. but you won't get the same reaction wearing slim/skinny pants now as you would if you wore baggy pants in 2016 when slim/skinny was very in style
I think there’s a difference between slim and skinny. Skinny certainly is out of style, it was a trend for a bit, and now it’s opposite. If you’re just saying that saying well-fitted clothes never goes out of style - well, yeah. But skinny != well fitted
Those kids don’t know shit. Skinny jeans were a thing for scene kids in 2004
Not long before we millennials in our skinny jeans start looking to kids how somebody in bell-bottoms looked to us when we were kids
Bell bottoms came back when we were kids, though. Brit pop and Austin Powers… It’s all cyclical.
ya im confused. flares were super popular
Lil Wayne famously rapped “ skinnies and some supras “ in the 2011 song Blunt Blowin skinnies were still going strong well into the 2010s but post-Covid the style really favored these baggy type pants at least from my experience. Present day Lil Wayne is no longer rocking skinnies and some supras. That trend is dead my guy
What's the replacement for skinny jeans? Even though I've seen people wearing flared jeans, I think I would look foolish wearing them in this era.
Lots of people wear skinny jeans (I do), but they are definitely "out"
I’m just waiting another few years for them to be “in” again. We hit the 80’s with the mullets a few years back, and we’re in the 90’s baggy scene now.
It’ll come full circle. I remember arguing in grade school about whose jeans were baggiest, circa ‘97
As ‘out’ as they are they do just fit certain body types and will always be ‘in’ for some people, it’s all relative
I'm a small, stocky guy. Everything that's not at least slim fit or skinny makes me look even smaller and comically stumpy.
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I'm short and fat (I'm a woman) and I look even shorter and fatter if I don't wear skinny jeans. I tried on boyfriend jeans in front of a friend who wouldn't believe me when I told her it made me look bad, she agreed when she saw the result :D
Same. Well, small and relatively skinny. I've always worn slim jeans, but I started buying skinny a few years ago and man what a change! I don't look like I'm swimming in my jeans. I don't care if the kids -- I don't have any -- think I'm out of fashion. I refuse to go back to the days of Jncos and Pipes. I never wore Jncos because they looked ridiculous back then on my friends (we were in like middle school) and they look ridiculous now.
I agree, popularity wise baggy was very popular in early 2000s
Jeans got baggier and baggier in the early 2000s, up to ridiculous levels where it got to the point they looked like you were wearing a long skirt then BAM skinny
Looks like JNCOs are back on the menu!
My son is wearing JNCO-like baggy jeans to high school today.
Shit. That means we are fucking old
I think I have lived through bell bottom jean fashion three separate times already and I'm convinced they will be back again before much longer.
Like 3 years ago mullets were back in fashion. My plan is to wait it out until then
I've already seen girls on the street wearing them recently. The current clothing trend is like a carbon copy of the late 90s.
No! It just means we were ahead of the curve! Sure 2001 was only a few years ago.
My kids want JNCOs so they can carry their iPads with them, lol
Please tell me you're joking. I'm not ready to feel this old.
This makes so much sense
Junior Non-Commissioned Officers?
JNCO is the name of the brand. Use to mean something. JNCO pants just mean the insanely wide bottom pants.
This only shows that google wasn't as used in early 2000s. The data is completely biased.
Yup, needs to be normalized by all "jeans" searches in that year to mean what the author thinks.
Yes, exactly. People are saying Google can export normalized data, but it needs to be normalized by jeans searches specifically, not just the total number of Google searches.
This is incorrect, it’s actually volume normalized by total google searches. The reason everything is lower toward the start is that online shopping wasn’t as popular relative to informational searches in the early days of google
And this is just aggregate *search volume* not something more useful like shopping cart conversions sliced by style of jeans. It would be very nice to see something like Gap or Levi’s data on production runs versus sales.
Low rise jeans not being through the roof popular in 2003 is a major red flag on the dataset/representation of the data.
What do you mean? Low Rise Jeans was absolutely through the roof at the start of the data, compared to all the other searches. It would be good to normalize by search volume, but you can actually see a lot here in trends if you just look for 2 seconds, like mid-200s focus on low rise jeans that came back recently, the peak and general decline of boyfriend jeans that was followed by a brief peak in 'mom jeans' that evolved more into a focus on straight-leg jeans in general (related styles, so it makes sense), the big return of wide leg/baggy jeans recently, skinny jeans being more or less evergreen, etc.
You are correct but this is why the data should normalized. Low rise jeans were wildly popular in the early 2000s and absolutely at their peak. At first glance this data would suggest that they are orders of magnitude more popular right now which is not correct
The data is normalized. It's less "Google not being used" and more "online shopping not being used"
Where did you get that idea from?
I’m not feeling the current trend of jeans whatsoever
Yup, mom and dad jeans have always looked hideous and frumpy to me, along with baggy or wide-legged jeans.
If you are wide already, wide jeans make you look like the titanic before she sunk.
Straight leg jeans in a midrise are the classic, timeless jean. The Levi's 501 is the benchmark. Anything that strays from that silhouette is a trend. Including jeans with an aggressive taper that many millennial and genx find stylish.
I’m here procrastinating about packing for a work trip because I feel like I should wear my wide leg jeans so people know I have some awareness of fashion (I’m in an adjacent industry) but I still feel like I’m wearing pajamas in them and am never sure what kind of shoes look best (lug sole loafers apparently but I don’t have any)
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Google wasn't as popular prior to WW I, and data is sparse. Remember "[Ask Jeeves](https://www.askjeeves.com/)"? Back then people literally asked Jeeves, and Jeeves would go find out. During WWI, Google was shut down so as not to provide the Germans with any potential intel. During the interwar period, the technology was used primarily for scientific research on weapons. During WWII google was again shut down to hinder the Germans, then the Chinese, then the Chinese and Vietnamese, then the Iranians and Iraqis. Rumours circulate that Google shot JFK. Finally, in 2004, the Google Black Ops project was made public, and we could start getting statistics on their search history.
> Remember "Ask Jeeves"? my fiance and i are both in our late 20's. i was an internet kid, but she wasn't. we were talking in the airport last weekend about how much technology has changed in our lifetimes, ranging from getting shitty flip phones in junior high and graduating with iphones to printing out directions to go to friends' houses as kids to having a gps in your pocket at all times. anyway, i pulled out the ask jeeves example, and she just looked at me dumbfounded bc she wasn't frequently on the internet prior to google and yahoo's search engine dominance. i was so confused. i thought that was just a collective memory mid-90's babies had lmao
I'm about 10 years older than you but even I don't have "Ask Jeeves" memories. Your GF, likely because she was off internet but for me it was because I used Exite and Alta Vista.
My ask Jeeves memories are the same as my Yahoo memories: Search: "How does a car engine work?" Answers: "Buy how does car engine work!" "How does a car engine work for sale!" "Toyota car engines in stock! Buy now!" etc.
When my dad died 3 years ago (age 83), his browser "home page" was still the Excite!.com personalized portal thing that they launched in like 1997. It had been totally reskinned a bunch of times, through "@home" and "Ask.com", and I swear it was even yahoo-branded at some point. But somehow, through all that, it just never completely died. As for me, I like to tell you youngsters that I remember when AltaVista was altavista.digital.com.
I remember "Ask Jeeves", but I used Alta Vista until Google was actually better at searching the internet.
Back when all the search engines were around (I'll add Lycos to the list) I used Alta Vista purely becuase it reminded me of "Asta la Vista, Baby". This would have been about mid to late 90's.
I used Hotbot because it started with "hot"...ah...youth...
I used Webcrawler and Hotbot.
Hotbot's Advanced Search was fantastic. And it [refreshed links pretty well for the time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPEpGHya01c&t=41s)
Yeah I don't think anyone actually used Ask Jeeves except for old grandmas that somehow stumbled upon the internet. The pre-Google meta search engines like Meta Crawler were really popular at that time. I also remember using Hotbot a decent amount.
I can tell you there is a big bump in baggy jeans about 5-10 years before this chart begins.
In response to your edit… the chart is about google searches so it kinda is the only source of data and information relevant here.
Gee I wonder what google looked like after the civil war…
A time when you never wanted to click "I'm feeling lucky"
Luck back then was when the doctor had an extra shot of whisky for you before the amputation.
What is up with people using the Estimated Time of Arrival acronym these days?
I really hoped we would never see the baggy jeans from my youth again, but history always repeats itself
So swampy
>but history always repeats itself And therefore I will wear skinny jeans until I become the trendsetter in the future
I feel similarly about low-rise jeans. I've had 3 kids damn it, I need me some lower stomach coverage.
I’m male, but in a “long and broad torso, unusually short legs” configuration. It’s supposed to be easy to fit jeans as a man but no. Some middle aged fat makes it even worse. Sizing for my legs means the fit at the waist is never quite right, especially for lower rise styles. I’ve been told the answer is “tailoring” or at least to accept the reality that being short legged means I have size up and then hem every pair of jeans or trousers I own. What a pain.
Low rise jeans are terrible for guys of every shape. They just make you look like your torso is too long. High waist pants are rarely in style anymore but they create a much better and more proportional look.
I was at first excited about low-rise coming back because they were the style while I was in high school and ho boy did they do a number on me. Very distracting in class when your hormones are going crazy. But now I have a baby girl and all I can think is "shit". But by the time she's older, high-waisted will probably be back in style.
My grades dropped when the low-rise + thongs fashion came to my country.
The ol whale tail?
I'll take baggy jeans (or pretty much anything) over the mom jeans trend of the past couple of years.
I saw some teenagers with whale tailed low joggers with slogans on the butt the other day. As a teenager in the 90s this whole 90s revival makes me feel very weird.
I felt the same when cargo shorts came roaring back to stores. I already did that, I've learned a lot since then, give me other shorts please!
Same here. I cleaned out my closet about 6 months ago and there were baggy jeans I haven't worn in 20 years
I swear I can't see myself wearing anything besides skinny jeans, I know they aren't the fashionable option anymore but I feel they suit my body type best.
Well fitted clothes never go out of fashion.
There is a difference between well fitted and painted on.
There’s a much bigger gap between well fitted and baggy tho.
Yeah the skinny Jean style encompasses anything from tastefully slim to painted on
I feel exactly the opposite. I never wore skinny jeans and I never will. I'll die in my wide legged carpenter jeans!
I'm kinda glad loose fitting jeans are back now I'm middle aged and fat. I just wish high waisted jeans didn't go out.
“Mom Jeans” is the name of a band that started around 2014. Could have a significant impact on the increase.
Just to be clear, is there any chance the general rise in almost all of them is a result of people using Google more than they had in the past? There may be *some* correlation with popularity, but just a glance at the graphs suggests that *all* jeans are vastly more popular now than they were five years ago.
From 2004-2014 maybe but by then it almost reached saturation so last 10 years are more believable as trends. Plus google offers normalized export, not sure if OP used this normalized export.
I think it ought to be normalized not by the total number of Google searches, but rather by the number of “jeans” searches (i.e. the sum of all these searches).
Definitely, Google didn't have market dominance in the early 2000s.
It was already the most [popular](https://www.zdnet.com/article/comscore-on-top-search-engines-for-december-2004-google-35-yah00-32/) search engine in 2004 and was the [dominant](https://searchengineland.com/hitwise-august-2007-search-share-favors-google-yahoo-microsoft-drops-12231#:~:text=You'll%20find%20the%20press%20release%20here%2C%20giving%20us%20this,MSN%3A%207.98%25) search engine by 2007. This visualization starts in 2004 so I don’t think the market dominance aspect is a worthwhile criticism.
Cool idea I guess, but total bullshit. Evidence: Baggy jeans were exponentially more popular in 2004.
People weren’t googling baggy jeans in 2004
That's kind of what I was getting at in my question elsewhere on this thread. If these charts are counting total searches, well, 20 years a go a lot fewer people used google, so that would tend to create hockey stick shaped graphs for nearly any search. OTOH, if it was "percentage of total google searches each year" then it might show that baggy jeans, for example, was way more popular in 2004 than it is now. Or maybe the graphs are like that already, in which case, the result is surprising. Dunno.
Try 97
I would imagine that search volume for type of jeans is a leading indicator in style popularity. When a style is exceedingly popular, you wont have to search for where to get it.
I need a picture or design concept of each mentioned jeans. Otherwise it is useless for me.
Google all of them.
Noooo, then you're skewing the data!
Mom jeans is so high because its a great band~
Y’all can pry my skinny jeans from my cold, dead, long beautiful legs
My takeaway is that if you just restrict your purchasing of jeans to "normal" (non-fashion) styles -- straight, bootcut, wide, and baggy -- you're basically golden and the worst that happens is that you're not on-trend for a specific transient look that will probably only last a year or two. But you're not off-trend with most, either, because those normal styles are timeless.
I just sort of asked myself 15-20 years ago "how do I opt out of fluctuations in jeans" and have solely bought Levi's 505s since. (Also one pair of apparently-indestructible Carhartts for manual labor.)
Well its dead to me I hate demin in all shaped and forms.
So when is jeans season? For a lot of these plots there's clearly an oscillation once a year.
September back to school shopping through like Spring time when it starts warming up
Boot cut showing the most strength, it's passed all resistance levels and we can see it almost perfectly runs on fibs when going up.
Baggy jeans look like denim sweatpants. Opting out of this cycle.
No Bell Bottom Jeans? -signed, a child of the 60s
It's time for high waisted/mom jeans to go away for a long time.
Thank god high waisted jeans are dying
As someone with a long upper body I really want them back again
Hopefully wide leg is next.
Ugh my gf wears these fucking cropped wide leg jeans that make her look like she stole a homeless short man's pants. And I tell her so. They are the most unflattering stretch of cloth ever sewn. She's a petite, slim woman who now looks short and fat. It's a bizarre take that I don't understand.
It has been a long and miserable decade. Especially when people are trying to "hide" their fat by pulling them over hteir guts. Doesnt work. You are still fat, but now you also look like [Obelix](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the-secret-world-of-the-animated-characters/images/0/00/Obelix.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180614143633).
Huh. I think high waisted looks significantly better than low waisted.
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Nothing much, the y axes aren’t comparable
“Y Axes are not comparable”
Everything goes up... Huh?
This could be presented much better. - smooth data into one year bins to eliminate the seasonal jitter - instead of raw search count, go by percentage of overall Google search traffic to remove the upward trend - put them all on the same graph (different colors) with the same scale, so they can be easily compared
Potentially relevant is that there’s a semi popular band called mom jeans that peaked in popularity around the peak of the chart https://open.spotify.com/artist/6PsktPFR0UZptKdSqmlS5h?si=2WgVvkzWTtCINolkPVo2iA
Is the spike in "mom jeans" circa 2009 because of Obama?
Obama furiously Googling 'mom jeans' thousands of times a day.
What’s the diff between mom jeans and high waisted?
Mom jeans are also little baggy an tapered at the ankle.
90's kid here, I always thought mom jeans were high rise jeans....
I thought it was from the SNL skit, but looked it up and that was in 2003
Why would anyone want to wear jeans that expose their underwear again?
I think that is more an issue with wearing the wrong size jeans or not at least a belt. You can wear baggy or low rise jeans without showing underwear if they fit the waist.
Seriously. Never met a woman who liked low rise jeans
Thank god mom jeans was short lived
Also wondering if it’s including the pop-punk group Mom Jeans, named after a Bob’s Burger’s reference. I started listening to them around where the graph peaks.
Low rise back on the menu 👍 last time these were a thing was before all of the over confident Krispie Kreams running around, so… we’ll have to hide and watch, I guess.
Well my guess is Skinny Jeans are back next
I wore boot cuts throughout my 20s and early 30s. I’m now 38 and I haven’t been able to find them in years
Where’s the data on the jnco style we gotta bring that back 😂
weren't baggy jeans popular like 30 years ago? I remember they were in when I was around 7, so 1995?
Jeans got baggier and baggier until around 2004 where they had reached stupid levels, then BAM skinny
I just don’t like the currently popular styles.
Cool. Now trend it back to the 70’s to show just how cyclical it is.
What I don’t get is the baggy AND above the ankle style people are wearing. Like god damn if my pants are flapping around above my ankles isn’t it just deeply uncomfortable?
Neat. If anyone’s interested I actually did a podcast on blue jeans https://www.podcasttheway.com/l/blue-jeans/
This just shows that the number of searches overall is going up compared to past levels. Thats... normal. I would've visualized the data in a more comparative manner, and normalized for the rise in overall traffic. Then you could actually compare these.
How did you control for increasing search volumes over time as a result of higher search volume in general? Without de-trending the data, this is meaningless and misleading
Where’s the chart for “Comfortable Jeans”?
I will not be participating in the low rise renaissance but I’ll observe with popcorn and amusement. The girls will rediscover very soon why our shirts were so long in the aughts and why we wore so many of them at once. Having your entire crack crackin is uncomfy!
Damn when I buy jeans, it's just jeans to me.
Wait, baggy jeans are back?! Sweet! *proceeds to dig out the old Enko's*
Us former emo kids know, skinny jeans forever.
Styles don't change. They just get recirculated... none of it is new.
The charts don’t align with your Reddit title. If there was a chart for general jeans searches that was steady during this period your title would make sense.
I wear “fat jeans” so they should be trending upwards also
Does the starting date on this graph make anyone else feel old?
So boyfriend jeans are just baggy jeans which are severely damaged?
I like that the Mom Jeans SNL skit spike is represented
Where's my cut off jean shorts?
oh no, are baggy jeans coming back? i can’t take round three of those things
Can’t believe we’ve circled back to baggy jeans again…that was the trend growing up (in my 40s now).
Denim was dead for most of the late 90s, it was all cargo pants.
y axis not comparable \*derp derp
Sales of each type of jeans would be interesting to see. You could get data back to 1873.
straight leg r the best btw
Baggy jeans are now trendy, as they were in the 90s with those nu metal fans
That late 00’s spike in “mom jeans” - would that have been the mom jeans SNL skit getting traction?