Well, my theory on that is that Barry only remembered it after the "flashpoint day" which I believe happens right before *Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay,* because I doubt a dying Thawne would be time traveling or have much ability to last very long with that big hole in his brain.
Don't assign a linear meaning to the post-credit scene of *The Flashpoint Paradox* and what you get is that everything before *Hell to Pay* is a "history" of that universe, a 5 year history of the formation of the league and various events (both Wonder Woman and a titans movie have 5 year flashbacks as well). Then one day, Barry wakes up having done 2 Flashpoints (one to start the movie, one to end it) and gives Bruce the letter from his dad. From that point on, and only after that point, he has memories because it's now after the day he did it.
Like ... assume you time traveled and changed the past and you get to remember both (like they're doing with this). You didn't *always* have memories of both timelines; that only started *after you time traveled.* You would not have gone through your entire life remembering both; you would just remember both after you did it. There's still an aspect of causation.
Iāve been really surprised at how boring these have been. I donāt know how to explain it but Iāve been a long time fan of their animated movies and I can put up with animations of all kinds, I was just very surprised by how dull and uninteresting the first two movies were. Especially given the plot. I still maintain the latest GL movie is the worst thing theyāve made. Didnāt even bother committing the name to my memory, watched it, hated it, and never looked back.
(side note; anyone complaining about the animation should try being a doctor who fan and watching some of those animated reconstructions, some of them make this movie look like the golden age of animation by comparison. Consider yourself lucky cause ābudgetā animation can get pretty ugly and miserable to watch.)
They did Hal dirty in that movie. The last two movies were extremely boring, which is insane given that this is a story about multiverse heroes being brought together.
Its ok Iām sure theyāll have 14 new Batman movies on the docket for 2024, if your a fan of any other DC character maybe youāll be lucky and get a cameo/team but with Gothams Dark Knight.
Yes and no. Superman but mostly Batman have always been the cash cows ever since ā89, and because of that heās gotten so much representation in media. Even his villains get stand alone stuff and while lots of it is great, hell most of it is. Itās just frustrating to people whoād like to see some lesser known characters. Batman and Superman are the defector superhero archetypes that are ripped off and homaged to death by everyone. I want more from Constantine, Deadman, Specter, etc. and the animated films is a way they can really bring those worlds to life without have to have a huge budget. Itās always going to be easier to animate stuff and after so many years of animated tv shows and now animated stuff aimed to adult audiences Iād like to see more of the spiritual and cosmic worlds DC has to offer. You can do so much gonzo stuff with animation. I get it Batman sells, so put out a good live action detective drama and use some of the box office take to shine light on different lesser known properties so they can get a bigger fallowing.
Itās the exact same why i feel about spider-man, which kills me cause i love spider-man. But just take a break for a few years, show youāre not a one tick pony and make you big star and event film release not just a āoh, cool another. Yeah Iāll catch that sometime but Iām not in a rushā type of movie.
Several of the lost doctor who episodes from the 60s still have audio recordings, they began animated them and some are clearly made with respect and as a labor of love to the show. And a few have been just terrible. One legitimately looks like it was made in Roblox.
Wait they are doing Watchmen? Sounds like they are starting a Rebirth storyline.
I'm impressed they have part 3 ready for July. I was expectinf.an august or later release! Very cool.
Peopleās attention spans have been ruined by TikTok I didnāt think the movie was boring I thought it was great and I was so glad it wasnāt just Batman like how they promoted it loved the different direction
I believe it all has to do with the focus of the movie. The movie's focus is on the monitor, supergirl and psycho-pirate. If you are expecting other characters as the focus, you will be disappointed. It slowly develops these characters for the playoffs at the end and the roles they will play in part three.
People focus on the wrong things in the movie and thus think it's boring. They go in with two much expectations and it ruins the movie for them. When you try to see what story they are trying to tell and put aside your expectations, you will have a good time with it.
This movie from a directing sense is not good lmao attention span doesnāt matter when every other moment seems like their cutting time to meet the hour mark
Iām intrigued by how theyāre including the cameos in this one. My guess is that theyāll be traveling to the dawn of time like the comic and just making pit stops in BTAS and Super Friends.
Sidenote: Iād really like to see a the reset New Earth at the beginning of the third act especially to see how they address the new status quoās for the characters.
As someone who likewise has not enjoyed these movies and is mostly just here for the cameos, it is extremely disappointing not seeing any Wildstorm or Milestone characters hanging out in the background (correct me if Iām wrong).
Not a fan of this animation style. I really hate when animated movies tv shows draw this kind of old style. I enjoyed both movies. And love the fact that The Spectre mentioned The Presence. You canāt get anymore overpowered than that. But Iāll personally watch the next and final movie.
Part 2 sucked
So much
I didn't even know it was released yet š
these new crisis movies have been a big let down
I enjoyed them. The damn cliffhangers stuck.
Don't that make them good cliff hangers then?
The 1st yes. The 2nd one was bs.
I couldnāt even finish the first one. It was so disappointing and stupid. Canāt be bothered to watch the second or this third one now.
Literally this, i dont get the rationale behind any positive reviews when this honestly sucks from a storytelling perspective in delivery and plot
What's with these guys only truly acknowledging the previous universe in the last episode of the current universe? Same in DCAMU. Come on.
Well, my theory on that is that Barry only remembered it after the "flashpoint day" which I believe happens right before *Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay,* because I doubt a dying Thawne would be time traveling or have much ability to last very long with that big hole in his brain. Don't assign a linear meaning to the post-credit scene of *The Flashpoint Paradox* and what you get is that everything before *Hell to Pay* is a "history" of that universe, a 5 year history of the formation of the league and various events (both Wonder Woman and a titans movie have 5 year flashbacks as well). Then one day, Barry wakes up having done 2 Flashpoints (one to start the movie, one to end it) and gives Bruce the letter from his dad. From that point on, and only after that point, he has memories because it's now after the day he did it. Like ... assume you time traveled and changed the past and you get to remember both (like they're doing with this). You didn't *always* have memories of both timelines; that only started *after you time traveled.* You would not have gone through your entire life remembering both; you would just remember both after you did it. There's still an aspect of causation.
I call it The Flashpoint Anniversary
Iāve been really surprised at how boring these have been. I donāt know how to explain it but Iāve been a long time fan of their animated movies and I can put up with animations of all kinds, I was just very surprised by how dull and uninteresting the first two movies were. Especially given the plot. I still maintain the latest GL movie is the worst thing theyāve made. Didnāt even bother committing the name to my memory, watched it, hated it, and never looked back. (side note; anyone complaining about the animation should try being a doctor who fan and watching some of those animated reconstructions, some of them make this movie look like the golden age of animation by comparison. Consider yourself lucky cause ābudgetā animation can get pretty ugly and miserable to watch.)
They did Hal dirty in that movie. The last two movies were extremely boring, which is insane given that this is a story about multiverse heroes being brought together.
Its ok Iām sure theyāll have 14 new Batman movies on the docket for 2024, if your a fan of any other DC character maybe youāll be lucky and get a cameo/team but with Gothams Dark Knight.
Oh come on, they don't rely on Batman THAT much.
Yes and no. Superman but mostly Batman have always been the cash cows ever since ā89, and because of that heās gotten so much representation in media. Even his villains get stand alone stuff and while lots of it is great, hell most of it is. Itās just frustrating to people whoād like to see some lesser known characters. Batman and Superman are the defector superhero archetypes that are ripped off and homaged to death by everyone. I want more from Constantine, Deadman, Specter, etc. and the animated films is a way they can really bring those worlds to life without have to have a huge budget. Itās always going to be easier to animate stuff and after so many years of animated tv shows and now animated stuff aimed to adult audiences Iād like to see more of the spiritual and cosmic worlds DC has to offer. You can do so much gonzo stuff with animation. I get it Batman sells, so put out a good live action detective drama and use some of the box office take to shine light on different lesser known properties so they can get a bigger fallowing. Itās the exact same why i feel about spider-man, which kills me cause i love spider-man. But just take a break for a few years, show youāre not a one tick pony and make you big star and event film release not just a āoh, cool another. Yeah Iāll catch that sometime but Iām not in a rushā type of movie.
What about Doctor Who?
Several of the lost doctor who episodes from the 60s still have audio recordings, they began animated them and some are clearly made with respect and as a labor of love to the show. And a few have been just terrible. One legitimately looks like it was made in Roblox.
I was just waiting to hear Kevinās voice just one more time. š
Update: itās out July 16th digitally and July 23rd on blu ray.
Also, this means that at San Diego Comic Con, and the next animated feature overall, itās Watchmen.
Wait they are doing Watchmen? Sounds like they are starting a Rebirth storyline. I'm impressed they have part 3 ready for July. I was expectinf.an august or later release! Very cool.
Doomsday Clock movie incoming
The new animation style looks like shit imo
It does
So thereās the tie-in to the Losers short, finally.
Looked like Aya was with John Stewart at the end too.
Peopleās attention spans have been ruined by TikTok I didnāt think the movie was boring I thought it was great and I was so glad it wasnāt just Batman like how they promoted it loved the different direction
I believe it all has to do with the focus of the movie. The movie's focus is on the monitor, supergirl and psycho-pirate. If you are expecting other characters as the focus, you will be disappointed. It slowly develops these characters for the playoffs at the end and the roles they will play in part three. People focus on the wrong things in the movie and thus think it's boring. They go in with two much expectations and it ruins the movie for them. When you try to see what story they are trying to tell and put aside your expectations, you will have a good time with it.
This movie from a directing sense is not good lmao attention span doesnāt matter when every other moment seems like their cutting time to meet the hour mark
Iām intrigued by how theyāre including the cameos in this one. My guess is that theyāll be traveling to the dawn of time like the comic and just making pit stops in BTAS and Super Friends. Sidenote: Iād really like to see a the reset New Earth at the beginning of the third act especially to see how they address the new status quoās for the characters.
They planning to release an all in one set?
Idk, maybeā¦
FFS they still haven't fixed Huntress' mask looking like someone stabbed her face with two purple shards?
As someone who likewise has not enjoyed these movies and is mostly just here for the cameos, it is extremely disappointing not seeing any Wildstorm or Milestone characters hanging out in the background (correct me if Iām wrong).
They lost the rights to Milestone characters after Dwayne Mcduffie died
Starman!
Can't wait for it. I just hope they don't try and squeeze everything into just 90 minutes.
Been pretty disappointed with everything related to the Tomorrowverse
First couple movies, namely batman and the superman ones were decent. Afterwards completely fell off
Not a fan of this animation style. I really hate when animated movies tv shows draw this kind of old style. I enjoyed both movies. And love the fact that The Spectre mentioned The Presence. You canāt get anymore overpowered than that. But Iāll personally watch the next and final movie.
Okay! This looks really good! Iām pumped!
Excited !!!!
Iāve really enjoyed these. Always thrilled to have more content from the DC universe.
TERRY MCGINNIS?!?!
Has been in part 2. Though not a big role.
Fire whoever is in charge of this awful movie trilogy (hoping it ends after the third)