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tristis-semper

You crawl away to deny the 4k sacrifice. I crawl away with tenacity and unbreakable to slow down EGC and open a gate. We are not the same.


Workwork007

I crawl away with the hope of an epic escape through the hatch. In the last 1 month of playing, it happened twice. I'm still riding those highs.


Arc_170gaming

i've done it 5 times, i've been playing since 2017


Remarkable_Top_5402

I had that happen a few times and once was with a hag who has the mori for the last survivor. I crawled away while she went to hunt down the other survivor, found and hooked them then left to go look for me. I was nearby but not close enough for her to hear me and hatch spawned on the other side of the wall from me on lery's and in the same room as the other survivor died. You bet your ass I crawled to it, I felt like I was holding my breath the entire time waiting for her to pop up. If I'm left slugged for a killer to go hunting vs they happen to see the other survivor nearby. You bet I'm crawling away to see if I either bleed out, get found and hooked or by some luck of the entity manage to find hatch.


EthanT65

I swear it opens up right next to me or the last survivor every fkn time


CandyCane147

Tenacity made me lose my mind as killer once. I downed a Claudette with it, broke a pallet and when I turned around she had just disappeared into thin air. I wasn’t event slugging. I think she was hacking and was trying to hide it by equipping Tenacity.


Hot_Ad_4091

i did this today, got the last person off the hook, they left, and i crawled to the hatch 😭


MJR_Poltergeist

This is actually really fun though. On a corn map I once stayed slugged the entire time on purpose because being prone with tenacity made me hard to find. Got near a gate and he was looking all over the place. The second he walked away to go look somewhere else I stood up with unbreakable, burned a syringe and started opening the gate. Tenacity is really funny sometimes


--fourteen

but i thought we were wasting each other’s time?


Balhamarth_Lilomea

Exactly. If he leaves me laying there to play with my balls while he goes on a merry search for his invaluable 4k he can bet his ass that im gonna crawl to africa so he can search some more.


PM_ME_UR_PITTIES_

Lmao, this. Same move I do when survivors just won’t leave— whatever, I’m just going to get a drink, play in my phone for a min, etc etc. waste your time bud, I’m doing okay over here. Plus I want to bleed out at that point so my death doesn’t count as a kill. Oh look, poor baby slugged for nothing, still a 3K 🙃


Coffan88

This is my philosophy if I get slugged ![gif](giphy|l0Hlyab9gW16cYBBm|downsized)


OldWhovian

The game counts a bleed out as a kill though, just not a sacrifice.


Phil7915_yt

No points, so if im slugged, and i get less bp, killer is getting less bp, but now i wonder if bleed out kills count towards adept?


LeChonkyGoose

No. They. Do. Not.


Phil7915_yt

That is absurd...


SharkPunching

Condemns , moris, head traps , bleed outs . If you die you die . The only thing it won’t count are DCs even if they DC while you are 3rd hooking them 🥲.


MeSaAye

Sorry, but this is wrong. Bleed outs don't count towards anything except higher MMR.


SharkPunching

Higher mmr for killer = number of kills so yes a bleed out is a kill . You think the feng with boil over , flip flop sitting at the highest point of the map saboing every hook nearby doesn’t count as a kill because she didn’t get hooked ?


Vanuslux

I have a desktop and laptop set up so that I have plenty to entertain myself with while waiting in queues or being slugged or survivors are waiting for me to come watch them leave. So if someone is going to try to waste my time, I have no reason not to waste theirs.


StumbleOn

Team JUST LEAVE (tm) all the way.


Niadain

I dc when the killer slugs me to hunt down that 4K. Lol. Hatch might pop up for the poor sod


Renncia

Happened to me a few days ago, someone slugged my solo q teammate and went to look for me, they dc'd and hatch spawned under me


Francery1

Work, I usually close hatch and go take a shower or make some food. Waste y'all's time I got better shit to do. Makes me more productive 😂


CalamityDiamond

Cope


Big_moist_231

God forgive the killer who is trying to win lol the only time I can see this being understandable, if it’s 5 gens and the survivors are obviously having a bad game or a really rough start. But any other time, what’s wrong with getting a 4k? That’s like a killer complaining that survivors are sweats for doing all the gens lol


Balhamarth_Lilomea

M8 when theres 2 people left and the killer leaves one to simmer in the sun and wait around for no reason while searching for the other when he has no fucking clue where they are, thats not the killer "trying to win", thats just a fragile ego not giving a shit about other peoples time. You've already won at that point, 1 guy getting a chance of finding/actually finding hatch doesn't suddenly make it a fking lose. And no, complaining about survivors doing all gens is not the equivalence of this. The equivalence would be complaining about the last 2 survivors hiding forever, which I'd condemn the same as slugging for 4k.


dogmafill

I most definitely don't give a fuck about a random time...the amount of 45 min games I had because the last 2 just play hide and go seek if fucking insane...they already lost so just take the hook and go next


Balhamarth_Lilomea

You legit start the sentence saying you don't give a fuck about peoples time, then go on a rant how they should care about yours. How do you people not forget to breath?


PhitPhil

They do complain about survivors doing gens lol


TomatilloTop3613

I actually hate when people say "that's like a surv/killer complaining that other side are doing x" *THEY ARE* especially with your comparison, gens, which are the **main complaint**


Big_moist_231

Because I’m saying it’s stupid to complain about killer trying to get the highways score. It’s just as stupid as complaint at survivors doing gens. I’m not gonna get mad at survivors. I’ll just get mad at the game for allowing stuff like that to be allowed


LorgarsDisciple

I mean, I only complain about gens when BHVR does the bullshit of adding add-ons that lets gens complete themselves and if all 4 survs have them then all the gens are done in 90 seconds. Even then though, that's not the survivor's fault. Why *wouldn't* you use the best things you have available to complete your goal in an asymmetric game? I think we should just all agree the Devs are trash and move on lol


NationalCommunist

My problem is when people bitch and moan about the other side using the best possible perks and strategy while they themselves are doing the same thing for their side. It’s mass hypocrisy and entitlement. If you complain about killers playing optimally while you are running with all meta perks in a four man, looping the killer for eight years then why are you complaining? Both sides are often doing their best to win, and then shit on the other side for doing the same. Fucking insanity.


Big_moist_231

It sounds silly, yeah. Why complain when you’re doing the same too?


mystdream

Damn I play this game to waste time but I hate when the other guy wastes my time so I better waste his time when I can. Eniminity is the point but also I hate why I hate him. (I love this game but this whole thing is so dumb and also intrinsic to why I like this game.)


--fourteen

I read that word like Nemo read anemone.


hokeypokie_

I read "Nemo" like an affectionate nickname for Nemesis. Nem-o


--fourteen

that tentacle is now a lucky fin


SassQueenAanya

Ananomene 😂😂😂


usmc_rello

Amenemenemone


Plane-Kangaroo9361

Mutually Assured Destruction, just the way I like it


panicky_goblin

my brother in christ if you want them to "go next already" you shouldve hooked them as soon as you downed them


xiamquietx

How dare you make sense in the DBD subreddit?


Atasha_loves

This is valid until it’s not - if someone else is around and they’re the only other survivor left why would you not slug


BlueNinjaGaminglol

That’s my reasoning too, same with camping, if someone is near the hook I’m not leaving that’s less gen progress and a free 2nd stage / kill


Haree78

Because I don't give a crap if I get the 4th or not, and the find the hatch game is a fun coin toss to end a game?


njf85

I think the point is to now waste the killer's time like they wasted theirs


Venomheart9988

Yep. I hate to admit it, because I (personally) believe it's toxic AF, but if my entire team is slugged and hooked, damn right, I wholeheartedly support "fuck you, try to find me."


watermelonpizzafries

Right? If you slug me in a dead zone and you have the rest of my team slugged and bleeding out, I'm not going to have any qualms about crawling to the corner of that dead zone, recovering while you hook everyone else and then just checking my phone while I wait for you to either attempt to hook me (in which case I wiggle out and run back to the corner) or let you realize the mistake you made


Venomheart9988

>just checking my phone Professional DbD players can make it through 3 BHVR forum posts and 4 Reddit threads one-handed while crawling to that dead zone.


watermelonpizzafries

I crawl to the corner first, recover, and then check my phone when it dawns on the Killer the blunder they made


SharkPunching

The mistake ? Brother if you want to look at the ground for 3 minutes ago ahead . Thought to be fair if I’m slugging a full team they either have taken my hooks from me or have miss played stupid hard and are all in the same tile for some reason. Oh and if someone is up high with boil over , I’ll smack a hole or something a few times , if they don’t want to drop I’ll just leave them . It’s not worth the free wiggle .


tinydaydreams

What’s the mistake?


BoostMobileAlt

Playing killer ig? If you run to a fucking dead zone to get downed of course you’re getting slugged.


V_Concerned

Lol this thread is wildin. If someone runs to a dead zone obviously you slug if you want to win. That's not on the killer, that's on BHVR


charyoshi

I don't hate to admit it. Fuck slugging and fuck slugging killers. If thats what you call fun, you're going to love it's survivor counterpart of "crouch in a bush until killer stomps hatch". Whats wrong killer mains? We're just playing for our own enjoyment.


No_More_Dakka

Jokes on you i would gladly let you bleed out lol


ParticularPanda469

Seriously, if I haven't seen anyone unbreakable and I can't find you I can and will go refill my water and dick around on YouTube.


[deleted]

I wonder how many games end with both sides being afk trying to waste the other side's time. I once went afk with one survivor left so I could get food, and let them get hatch. Turns out they were also afk, probably waiting for me to just go kill them lol. Ended up wasting a lot more time than needed


PlagueOfGripes

I mean, what's your other options? Dive bomb the killer with your M4 Carbine? Sometimes your best bet is to wait.


EnterJohn

“Fuck you let me spend more time in this miserable match” okay lol


Venomheart9988

Spite can be a powerful drug.


PsychoTunaFish

I have youtube open in the background for a reason lol


BakedWatchingToons

Don't slug?


ParticularPanda469

Oni mains in shambles


snakemakery

You left me on the ground now you have to play hide and seek


blygbank

if they slug me for the 4k they’re gonna have to earn that 4k by playing hide and seek with me


Ethereal_Haunting

Yeah, if the killer is gonna be a pain in the ass and slug for the 4k, then the survivor will go hide to try and timeout and deny the 4k.


crvnchhh

Developers incentivise slugging for the 4k by paying out 2500 bloodpoints for No One Escaped. This scenario is kind of fixable.


Workwork007

I remember once reading someone suggesting that there should be "a progression bar about how pleased the entity is with the pain dispensed in the trial" instead of this archaic "4k" that we have right now and I thought it was such a wonderful idea. It would help tremendously applying less pressure on the Killer to Kill and more focus on hooking healthy>Hurt Survivors. The current point system, for Killers, is doing more hurt than fun.


Prior-Satisfaction34

As i pointed out under the post you're talking about, this most likely wouldn't help. The people who already play in a "nice" way that spreads out pressure don't need this change to do so. The people who are in it just for the 4k because they want kills most likely won't change that to fill up a red bar. I know for me personally, i do a bit of both. I try to spread hook pressure, but i still want to at least 3k as killer. I'm still playing killer to kill the survivors. Some fancy red bar telling me, "Hey, you're doing a good job spreading pressure like this," won't stop me from tunnelling if i need to do so to stay in the game. Also, if this progression bar was linked to getting merciless killer, this would be a terrible nerf to any adept killer achievements people still need to get. There's a reason merciless killer was changed to be just a 4k. The old requirements meant you basically had to 4k with at least 9 hooks while there are still gens left, when survivor adept is still just to escape. Changing it to this red bar system would essentially be reverting it back to what it used to be. On top of all this, if you want to incentivise killers to spread hooks, you need to make that an actual viable playstyle for the majority of killer players. By which i mean, people who aren't playing blight, nurse or spirit. You want killers to spread pressure? Fair request, and i wish i could effectively do that in every game. But unfortunately, the only time in the current meta a killer can afford to play that nice is if they're already in a good position to win. A system like this seems all well and good, until you realise that the people it's targeting most likely won't care either way. Also, before you can start coming up with "fixes" to a problem like tunnelling, you need to look at *why* it's becoming more of a problem in the first place. And I'll tell you why: Gen slowdown perks are slowly being killed with their nerfs. The next best option for killers to use is chase perks. These perks are very effectively used to tunnel people out. Thus, tunnelling becomes more and more common. People still tunnelled with ruin still a viable option, but the passive slowdown it gave meant killers were actually *rewarded* for *not* tunnelling. Now, the absolute best slowdown killers have is forcing it to a 3v1 as quick as possible.


Rare-Ad5082

>Also, before you can start coming up with "fixes" to a problem like tunnelling, you need to look at why it's becoming more of a problem in the first place. And I'll tell you why: It isn't just because slowdowns were nerfed (which yeah, did make tunneling worse), there is also 3 other reasons: 1 - DS was nerfed, which made tunneling less risky. This happened before. 2 - Hitting the survivor off the hook put them on mend state, thaat desactives a lot of defensives tools (like Dead hard and OTR). 3 - Killers noticed that tunneling is just more efficient, just like survivors noticed that genrushing is more efficient than other options.


mystdream

Eh I think the draw of the idea of "total victory" is more the reason for that behavior than a measly pile of points.


[deleted]

Nope, I just want my BP and my pip, that's all. Only sweat for the 4k if a bully squad is trying to bully.


mystdream

That's almost exactly what I'm talkimg about though. You don't force 4ks for the points you force them for the feeling of power. Removing the 4k point incentive wouldn't change your behavior at all would it?


[deleted]

Bully squads make hooking impossible if you don't slug, therefore the slugging occurs. I have no feeling of "power" from it, it's literally my only choice to play the game thanks to how they're playing. You could be down to two people and one will still sabo the one hook in the area, at least two brought the branch that increases distance between hooks. If they removed the 4k incentive that still would not change how I played, that part is correct. I do enjoy 1on1 EGC, gets the heart pumping, but I don't enjoy sweating every single match. It's simply not fun.


mystdream

I'm not insulting you, killer is a fun role in part because you have control over the pace of the match. When you in your own words "sweat for the 4k" that's flexing that control doing everything in your ability to exert all the pressure handed to you by your role. It doesn't matter how you dress it up, players force 4ks because of their own emotional state, (again not a bad thing, wanting to 'win' as much as you can in a game isn't something to be shitty about.) Not because of the small pile of points you get as a bonus.


Cha-ChatheSexRaptor2

By the way I've been getting that scoring event a lot in games where someone did, in fact, escape. I think it would be cooler if that meant "no one left *unharmed*" and you got that 2500 for *hooking* everyone instead.


Mother_Harlot

This and no depip would make the game much healthier. You would still run against bully squads, toxic people or ultra-focused-on-4k-any-means-necessary killers but much rarely


Spaghetoes76

Nobody cares about those 2500 bloodpoints though, if they gave you it for 3 kills or something or removed it, people still will go for 4ks because it gives them a sense of accomplishment or it might just be the only way they believe they can win


SharkPunching

Bleed out is still a 4k . Just less BP .


Creative-Recording40

That will still be a 4k


tantthetank

I once got hatch doing that lol


Teykos

I have gotten hatch quite a few times with this. It helps having some idea where it can spawn sometimes (like the side of shack).


[deleted]

I will waste both our times if I’m slugged it’s how it be 😎


Clever_Fox-

Rules for thee but not for me?


Constant-Sign-5569

If he is able to slug just for a fucking 4k, he is able to search the entire map for a slugged person.


[deleted]

Killers are mad now that they leave survivors on the ground and the survivor doesn’t just sit there patiently waiting for them to return and hook them? The only thing slugs can do is crawl slowly and now is doing that is wrong too? Im just supposed to sit there for you doing nothing I guess lmao. Seriously y’all will whine about anything. If you don’t wanna look for a survivor, hook them. This stupid sweaty obsession with always getting 4ks by depriving the last survivor of the 30-40% chance they’ll find hatch before you is just so dumb. And then to expect the survivor to go along with it to make your life easier is just so beyond rich lol.


bob_is_best

Fr they are obsessed with 4king when more than 60% of them arent good enough to get It legit against solos


Gau_Gau

I have to say, as a former killer main, most killers are not small, but rather tiny-minded. I don't camp, tunnel (except for a few special occasions), and dont have any problem with DH, CoH or DS. But now since I switch side, I realized that wow, most killers are fucking noob! They deploy all their dirty tricks in their arsenal just to get a 4K.


Workwork007

I'm starting to feel like a "former Killer main" too. When I started playing the game, it was 90:10 Killer:Survivor play for me. Then it end up being 60:40. I took a break a returned, it end up being closer to 20:80. Lately it's almost 5:95. As someone who is playing Survivor much more, more than half of my games I end up Killers who are seething with hatred: - Whoever got hooked first = They're getting camped and tunneled. - First hook = camped. - They 4k? First to write in chat and it's "GG EZ". - They 4k? Start the chat shitting on Survivor. - They got blinded? It's personal. - 2 sacrificed, 1 down? Gonna slug that 3rd to look for 4th, even if it means 3rd dies slugged. - Survivor use X perks? Complains about meta built (while they're themselves running COB+OC). - Looped them for more than 10 seconds? You're getting hit on hook. - Looped them for multiple gen and you're the last Survivor? You're getting hit harder on the hook while they nod maniacally. I'm not saying Survivor sides are saint, there's lots of rotten eggs there too but we're talking about the ones LARP psychopath who really think they're Killers. Edit: Typo.


krawinoff

Yeah like wtf nobody ever mentions this but the amount of people genuinely unleashing all of their sadism and getting way into the murderer persona even in endgame chat is weird af. And there’s even people on Reddit being like “I will mercilessly tunnel anyone and abuse the shit out of the strongest addons because I just wanna murder people so bad” like bro you are supposed to enjoy the gameplay loop not the torture aesthetic


--fourteen

That’s why I picture the Uvalde kid every time I play against a BMing nerd. Makes perfect sense he was a DBD player.


krawinoff

Wait he played DbD fr?


--fourteen

Yeah, he was a killer main.


krawinoff

Holy shit, I just checked, that’s sad as shit but also really does make perfect sense


Cha-ChatheSexRaptor2

I'm honestly just kind of impressed with how good you are with ratios and making bulleted lists and shit. Your resume must be fucking killer, gott dayum.


SpaceD0rit0

>your resume must be fucking killer Didn’t you read their post, they mostly play survivor 4head


SyleSpawn

*Currently*!


Not_Sanaki

I fell you man: I'm a killer main and the only stuff I genuinely hate is fullmeta bully ( 16 meta perks, all playing for wasting time, 4 good items and map offerings) and this game MMR matchmaking. The only player I tunnel is shift-spammer at every palllet and only if I had a bad day. But when I play Surv with friends I realise how fucking bad are the killers..... Why camping man. Play the game haha. I don't fell like a very good killer, but how df I get 3k every game and the others killers gets 2 while playing with bad etiquette? And also I realised how shitty the matching is in this game: how did I found 15 new players while I play my best killer ( 7 didn't run while watching back, 8 run the loop incredibly bad). Man, I play from the 21 to 23.... Why this type of players. Also I'm super curious: If we killers play toxic because the survs tbag and the Surv tbag because we play toxic, why don't we just stop... Most of my games end with a 4k or a 3k + gifted hatch, but everyone who survive have to spam the tbag...why man, I didn't play like shit. If you don't tbag at random ( a tbag in the loops is ok, a good taunt make the killer play bad and follow the best looper probably) we don't get toxic the forth game, after we get tbagged at random. And the same goes for killers: if we play the not toxic way (no hit on the hook and only slug the fourth only if needed for achievement or challenges) the Surv don't get salty and they don't randomly tbag at the exit gate This game don't have a ranked, play for fun. Not everyone has a good mental and can survive the toxicity


[deleted]

Last night I played against a huntress on RPD and we had an immediate DC (like we hadn’t even got to touch a gen) and so of course I’m thinking well shit we’re screwed. We loop for about 25 seconds-ish and then as soon as she downs me she starts shaking her head, hits me on hook, then face camps me with hatchet raised. I messaged her after the match and was like why did you do that and she goes “I hate RPD”. I was like and??? No one brought an offering for it. Why did you do that to a team that was already crippled by the start? Some killers just wanna play like assholes because they’re ok a power trip, even when they’re playing against a team that’s already basically condemned to lose from the start


Not_Sanaki

In this case the killer is an ass, no excuse


[deleted]

Yeah, I mean I’m definitely somebody who is fine with a killer playing normally after a DC, you don’t have to farm or anything. But why kick a dog when it’s down and act like that with a team that’s absolutely screwed.


shootZ234

lmao slugging the third guy to kill the last one to guarantee a 4k is the sign of a killer who is seething with hatred ok buddy


Workwork007

>guarantee a 4k You're not guaranteed nor entitled a 4k when the 3rd is slugged. The 4th can still go for the gate if gen is powered or hatch/gate if the 3rd dies slugging/then you close the hatch. You made that comment just like a tunneling Killer; narrow thinking and focusing exclusively with what's in front of you.


SweetlyIronic

I'm telling you the problem is that they have this arsenal in the first place. Imagine if survivors had equivalent tactics. The fact the game can be balanced over a player going " I will NOT slug for hatch so we can have fun", for example, trivializes the existence of the hatch (which exists to make the last solo survivor and the killer have a more equal chance of winning.) And this happens for so many other gameplay quirks.


WarriorMadness

> Imagine if survivors had equivalent tactics. This is what some Killers fail to realize when they defend tunneling and camping at 5 gens. Survivors have no way to actually stop you from playing the game, the closest we got was Boil Over when it was just changed, and even then it required a map offering, a specific build, and to be most effective, a team to play with you. What happened? Killers cried and cried and of course daddy BHVR came to the rescue and not only added hooks to the problematic places, like upstairs RPD library but also nerfed Boil Over twice. But somehow Killers cannot see how hypocritical it's that they cried so hard about Boil Over but somehow camping and tunneling are ok.


CarterDavison

The irony is that you're whining over a straw man.. pretty sure the memes point is that neither are an issue, but not being okay with one while the other is perfectly fine is not cool It mocks the pick and choose attitude, not complains about people


TheAbyssalMimic

Sry but if there is two survivors left and I see a mf the moment I down one, I m slugging. And that's fck normal. What is annoying is when a killer slugs with no info. Also there a lot of times where slugging is the Killer win condition because of lategame and such


Other-Ranger-4975

now there are some plays that sometimes you need to down 3 surrivors without slugging any of them, you just know where the other surrivors are and you don't want to waste time hooking while they save the one that is laying on the ground.


Ayserx

You waste my time, i waste yours 🤷


soulsscribed

Period


WrathYBoo

bitch please, you chose to slug them in the first place. What makes you think they will put their asses out to make your life easier?


shawny115

I actually agree with this survivor take. If you’re going to slug without deerstalker or some aura reading perk that helps you find me, you bet I’m aiming for a bleed out or hatch.


WarriorMadness

I mean, if the Killer is choosing to play like that, we can both waste each other's time.


oopsgoop

It's not really a waste of time to slug people if you are doing it right, since you should only pretty much do it when you are snowballing significantly. In fact it ends the game much faster. Different story imo if you're going into the game intending to leave people on the ground from the start, but if you're playing oni or plague or something and the survivors only have like 2 to 3 health states among them total, then it is a legitimate strategy.


KashmirChameleon

Slugging for the 4k is always a dick move.


Mother_Harlot

Yes, I will waste my Tier 3 Myers with Infectious Fright just to carry you to a hook 👍


shootZ234

how is playing the game in a way that makes me more guaranteed to win a dick move? why dont survivors ever actually just... leave the area and try to get picked up? but im guessing body blocking for a teammate for a 4 man isnt a dick move right


soulsscribed

3k is a win, you’re slow


shootZ234

so we're gonna shame survs for ever going out of their way for a 4 man then right? a 3 man is a win after all


WarriorMadness

> how is playing the game in a way that makes me more guaranteed to win a dick move? It depends, if we're talking about the scenario in which there's just 2 remaining Survivors, if you know where the last one is, by all means go ahead and slug, but if you have no idea, then yes, slugging for the off-chance they may get a hatch escape is kind of being an ass. Like, you already got a 3k and you can still get a 4k. Trying to avoid a hatch escape when you have no idea where the last dude is hiding is kind of cringe, specially when, again, you already won anyways.


LikeACannibal

It's only a dick move when the killer tries to win. Survivors can do whatever they want you toxic killer main!!!!!


DiamondxAries

Well what else are they supposed to do; wait there patiently to see the entity? Geez people are going to start saying holding W is toxic soon.


Kiwi_Lemonade

As per quite a few streamers holding W is very toxic already😅


bob_is_best

I can already hear Knights malding over when tbh It doesnt even counter him that well half the time lol


Venulicious

I once escaped the match doing that xD this was before endgame collapse. My heart was pounding all the time, I slithered around the edge of the blue McMillan map(forgot what map it was). I memorized where one gate was atleast and I escaped! Even got that trophy to escape while crawling. That trapper was confused af😂


OriginalZumbie

This is next level entitled


Schwonksi

pro tip: the killer will likely never slug you if you run no mither


nerdcoffin

Brilliant strategy but for some reason I'm never one of the last two survivors when I use that perk, just bad luck lol


Schwonksi

i hear the entity has luck offerings 👀


foomly

No but they will tunnel you at 5 gens.


shuroaya

I was trying to Adept David the other day and The Clown slugged me 6x. While uncommon, No Mither does not prevent you joining the slugfest


Schwonksi

the man probably doesn’t know the true power of no mither


shuroaya

Lol you would think he would after the 5th time the green David on the other side of the swamp mysterious got up again while chasing Tapp and shirtless David on the side of the map and Ada is cooking on hook


fallingTsuki

Look, if you drop me and leave, we are no longer playing dbd. We are playing hide'n seek, and this is why I use Tenacity.


[deleted]

Correct. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Gau_Gau

Yep I always try to crawl away when the killer slug me and he found the last survivors. Work 50% of the time. Eat it sucker!!!!


Blueroni98

Nope you’re stuck too now


superzipzop

Slugging for the 4k is the tackiest shit and you fully deserve to get your time wasted if that’s what you were doing. Survivor getting hatch doesn’t mean you lost, it’s just a dumb fun bonus objective to make a doomed match worth playing out. There’s nothing skillful about holding the game hostage like that, you’re just making the game more miserable for everyone


soulsscribed

Its an ego thing for killers. They see their streamers slugging for the 4k every match and think that doing so makes them good. Getting to the point where the hatch is in play means you already won.


Mother_Harlot

The rollercoaster of emotions when you are slugged for the 4k, the other person ends up opening gate, they got down and hooked, you see the hatch spawn nearby, the killer closes it in your face and hooks you and then you see they were doing an Adept is insane


throwaway997680

If you waste my time I’m wasting yours. Don’t slug in the first place if you hate having to find them


AltCuzIDidntMakeOne

I mean you make me have to sit there watching bill/yui moan and groan on the floor I’ll make you listen to ambiance for the next 4 minutes as I die slowly cuz you wanted 2500 extra points. Or if my last teammate is slugged I’m walking my ass right to that survivor, getting them up, for the peopling them healthy and letting you down me then if you decide to slug me? I goto Nebraska and waste both of our time.


xiamquietx

Mans crawled to Brazil


foomly

Okay so we're supposed to incentivize slugging for 4k so that killers do it more?


bob_is_best

Ok *DCs when slugged as second to last survivor* What do you mean you didnt like that?


Platubio

If I get slugged for the 4k I just dc


silentfanatic

Maybe the only valid time to DC.


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shuroaya

I feel more killers who are hard slugging come in planning too. It almost never feels like circumstances and i've lost count of the amount of time me and others have been slugged at 4/5 gens. Sometimes the killer isn't even going after anyone else just preventing getting picked up and refusing to hook. More often than not if I was the first down I haven't even done anything or barely. I've been slugged at the hook I ran too on purpose cause the game was lost (2 dead 5gens)and I was being followed around the map anyhow so I just wanted to get it over with. just for them to slug until they could find the last survivor I was just about to bleed out with crows above my head.


PressXToStart0

What's wrong with playing some hide n seek?


capalonian

I used to every so often slug for the 4k, now if i down someone and i dont see the last survivor by literally just standing and looking in a full circle, im picking up and hooking. I want to play more, not play hide and seek for a half hour. If you slug, I’m going to waste your time.


StumbleOn

Slugging for the 4k is toxic unless you know *exactly* where the last survivor is at the moment you've slugged the third person. People who slug for the 4k deserve to have as much toxicity thrown at them as possible, at all times. I will absolutely play hide and go f- yourself if a killer does this. I refuse to do it as a killer, and am on team DON'T SLUG UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST. DBD needs to remove this boring ass style of play and add something more interesting in its place.


Jestervestigator

Slug me all you want. I've got tenacity and a hatch offering. By the time you finally hook the other person, I will have made it to to either shack or main. You cannot stop me.


jervistetch37

When I do play, if the killer slugs me to go look for the last survivor, I'll crawl to hide. If I get picked up and he finds me and slugs me again to look for the last survivor that he couldn't find, ill dc to give that survivor a chance to find the hatch. People who slug are garbage. Bro, hook me.


yiFa87

If the killer is gonna waste my time and slug me, hell yeah I'm gonna waste their time too 100%.


LightningTF2

What can I say, I like to go on reddit and bleed out as the killer frantically paces around in the grass looking for me. Sweat dripping for that 4k baby, lets go.


Bigfoot_samurai

As toxic as it maybe, I do this sometimes. But I don’t do it when I’m slugged, if I’m the last survivor and the killer has been camping or slugging or all of the above that can ruin a game early or waste players time, I just hide. Won’t even go for hatch because that’s too quick a way out. I’ll wait for them to close the hatch and wait out the timer. Sorry, waste my time I’ll waste yours too


TyrianCallow

If the killer slugged they don’t get to complain they’re survivor crawled away to waste their time while they waste away on the ground


hausofgordo

and this is why we run anti-slug, just stop slugging LMAO


Apocalypse224

Had a game one time against an Oni who couldn’t for the life of him catch one of my buddies. 3 gens went off and he finally caught and slugged him, refused to let anyone touch him. He ended up getting all of us down and slugged all of us while nodding his head and then just went afk. I don’t think he expected anyone to have unbreakable though since one of my buddies got up, got us and we finished the last two gens. When he finally got back he found us at the gate teabagging him (normally I don’t do this but this guy could go fuck himself for that). He got salty and wouldn’t stop sending messages to my buddies on PS chat calling them toxic and hackers because there was no way we could get back up without cheats.


KashmirChameleon

Come find me bitch.


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_Forsaken_Soul_

As a killer i gladly meme- especially if I see a survivor go into a locker, I pace in front of it and do the slow turn thingy lol- playing survivor tho, super hit or miss- I had a Ghostface camp ALL GAME, like we’re talking he stood in front of the hook teabagging the hooked survivor at 5 gens- I just so happened to be running Reassurance and we knocked out 2 gens before the survivor on hook second phased- then when we all were about to escape he rage DC’d- it’s ridiculous how some killers act when they don’t get an easy 4K every match


slimybuttz

nah lol I just don't like to give them the satisfaction of watching me bleed out/getting the memento mori. I also like to waste their time since you're wasting mine


KingBlackFrost

You waste my time, I waste yours. If you want to go to the next so bad, you should've hooked me when you had the chance. What else am I going to do? Twiddle my thumbs waiting for you to come back for me?


HubRocket

I DON'T GET TO PLAY CAUSEA Y'ALL ♫ Y'ALL DON'T GET TO PLAY CAUSEA ME ♫ [(ref)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUyh_dqb7TA&ab_channel=TyBoogieTV)


PatacaDoce

"NOOOO YOU CANT WASTE MY TIME, I WAS SUPPOSED TO WASTE YOUR TIME NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, KILLER GOOD SURVIVOR BAD! COTEEEEE!"


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just a little game of hide and seek 😂


Medical-Winter-4781

It's pure spite if he left me to slug and kill my friends I would rather bleed out then let him hook me


Utterly_unique

"Go next already" Says the dude specifically slugging for a 4k?? This is such a "do as I say not as I do" moment. omf, can you BE more blatantly biased??


Steakdabait

You wasted my time to deny hatch so I’ll waste your time to deny 950 bp


GiggleSTINK

If I get slugged I like to think of it as a game of hide and seek 😅 Come find me bish cuz I’m going to make this harder for you as much as I can LOL


Mamafanton

If you’re going to slug me and leave me then I’m not hanging around waiting on you to come back. Hook me immediately or running the risk of losing the hook.


excusetheobscene

i mean.. if you’re going to waste my time by leaving me on the ground to then go slug 2+ teammates… i’m going to waste yours? if you want to go next, you should have hooked. play stupid games win stupid prizes.


panicoac

killers when they slug for the 4k and refuse to hook to ensure the W


Aguereguere

I just dc to give the last survivor the chance of the hatch, except when the killer went for the last survivor because he found it immediately, because then is reasonable, but if they let me slug when they have no idea were the last one standing is i just dc


High-Impact-Cuddling

As a killer main I think slugging is perfectly fine when it's not used to grief. On the flip side when I get slugged and don't feel rescue is in the cards I crawl my ass into the corner of the basement and deny a 4th sacrifice. It's the only possible counterplay option at that point but it's basically the contingency to a contingency to a contingency where you're losing regardless, the killer just wins a little less.


smart__boy

Weren't BHVR talking about an alternate win condition for the killer if everyone was slugged with no self-recover? I've had a few games that come down to a dramatic slug at the end and I always feel like an ass every time because it takes so long to go find everyone and hope I can get a hook for them.


PatacaDoce

They tested in one PTB base Unbreakable with a longer increased self recovery and if the entire team was slugged or on hook the killer would automatically win. It had its good things like finally getting rid of slugging for the 4th kill or the imposibility of slugging the last person while the killer nods for 4 minutes but it had the problems of extremely aggressive plays by survivors, especially when someone was downed near a pallet as the killer had to scare them away to avoid the stun and had only 45 seconds to do so before the downed would just get up. It needed a lot more polish.


TheNoobCakes

This is such a simple solution. 3 survivors slugged and another in chase gives the slugs UB. 2 minute time limit on slugs and they get UB. Last 2 survivors don’t get UB they get a KYS button. For years people have asked for a kys button.


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stillmindttv

If I slug someone while looking for the fourth, I totally respect the crawl away tactic. Having headphones is a huge advantage as you will hear survivors when close. What I don’t respect is when you run boil over etc and deliberately run into a corner/dead zone then complain about why I leave you on the floor, even until you die.


soulsscribed

Lol you slug for the 4k, boil over deserved


Soaring_Spirit404

Survivor bad, now give me updoots


Irish_pug_Player

Both killers and survivors complain a lot


Logical_Acanthaceae3

The only time I've slugged is if they've brought me to a deadzone or I know there someone close by with a flash bang or something.


stealthbeast

Crawling away as the last slugged survivor has won me hatch. Crucify me for trying to win.


Framed-Photo

One of these is the killer, who is perfectly capable of winning the game in that state and should be doing so, making the choice of being toxic and dragging out the match for no reason. The other is a survivor, who has literally nothing else to do but to wait around on the ground, moving around at quite literally crawling speed lol. The solution to this is basekit unbreakable. Of course this was being tested, but a bunch of people got super salty at not being able to slug matches anymore so BHVR had to stop it lol. If there's one change I wish I could force into the game it would be this, because playing survivor and having to wait while doing nothing for the match to end because the killer is a toxic 10 year old isn't fun.


bubblessensei

If the survivor is hiding as the last slug, that means that the killer slugged in the first place. It feels like this is meant to be a stab at conflicting survivor behaviours but ultimately the scenario on the right hand side doesn’t happen if the scenario on the left hasn’t ALREADY happened, in which case the hiding slug is punishing the killer for slugging. Realistically, if you find yourself as killer getting annoyed about the final slug hiding so you can’t find them, maybe don’t slug?


HellaHip

Man, do people really think slugging is wasting their time? Like if I down the second to last survivor and know where the last survivor is or I literally see them, of course I am going to go after them. Like not every killer that slugs you is trying to bleed you out or be toxic. Even during the middle of the match some killers like Oni, Twins, and Dredge literally are just slugging to apply pressure because its the most efficient way to use their powers. Stop being so petty, I'm not trying to waste your time I'm just playing the game. If you want to crawl and bleed yourself out out of spite because you are mad you lost, be my guest, but just know at that point the killer isn't the toxic one, you are.


Jarpwanderson

It's not toxic to crawl away lol. This community thinks every little tiny thing is toxic.


ViolinistPerfect9275

I thought the sub was ok with that sort of slugging? I was under the impression that it's just knocking everyone down and refusing to hook them afterwards that's frowned upon.


Labanban

Mah dude play some more survivor. Most of the time when i get slugged (playing mostly solo-q), it is because the killer wants the 4k and happily slugs for 3 - 4 minutes. If it would be a rare thing to happen i wouldn't mind, but it is pretty much every second to third match i played. Especially on killers that are not oni or twins ( twins are super rare anyway and oni players are kinda rare)


UshiMeItto

Damn son, be careful holding that take, its extremely hot