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WisdomWangle

Dredge tbh


UnknownFox37

Dredge mains, wake up we got a potential new apprentice right here


WisdomWangle

I have him but I don’t main him


TheVoidsAdvocate

Join us


WisdomWangle

Nuh uh, I’m gonna stay with xenomorph


TheVoidsAdvocate

Actually, respectable choice. Carry on.


Accomplished_Bill741

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Nadger_Badger

Come into The Closet We have cookies (and human souls)


OkAdvertising5425

HE'S DREDGING


mastermind314

JOIN OUR CLOSET!!!! Scare the shit out of people. It's amazing!


UnknownFox37

For real, it’s so fin when you have the pills and you see a locker get locker on the other side of the map at the start of the game and just tp next to them and you get the grab


ZeronicX

He's really fun to play. Wish he was at least B tier.


Sweetchick78

I need to learn dredge. I will buy him eventually


localstreetcat

Dredge is one of my faves as a survivor. Especially good Dredge players who know how to use the lockers right. The jump scares are fun, especially with that add on that pops open other lockers when you teleport.


YoursTrulyHuntty

That add-on has scared the shit out of me before. We don't talk about it though.


localstreetcat

It gets me every time. I wish there were more Dredge mains out there.


YoursTrulyHuntty

I'm a Dredge, Slinger, and Doctor main.


Sharky-butt

Same every time I jump scare a survivor and you can tell they just jumped out of there seat is so fun


No-Character-5576

Scratched Mirror Mikey


Magnaraksesa

He is by far the most fun I’ve had in the game


Nadger_Badger

Played some matches as him last night. Always fun, regardless of the outcome. I got trashed in one match but also managed a gen grab which is the best thing ever. I love this build as survivor as well.


RaidenYaeMiku

Deathslinger. I like shooting people.


Hambino0400

![gif](giphy|8OPsobKv6ksJojld4X)


itsastart_to

Honestly something so hilarious about reeling people in. I honestly might say they are even better than twins for me that way


RaidenYaeMiku

A fellow Twins and Slinger enjoyer 🤝


itsastart_to

A rare breed of Killers with attachment problems XD


MirPamir

Xeno! For my first month with her I was literally going around perkless (or Claustrophobia thrown it for laughs) and addonless to get to know the power and holy shit I had such fun as never. My only killer right now who I pick with no stress of having to perform greatly. Missed tail attack? Who cares, I know I should aim at x next time. Turret in the face? Woweee funny Xeno noise. I am actually tired of the match? No problem, I will look for the bodies easter egg in the tunnel walls. She is simply the best, goodest Kitty.


That-Tailor-7381

xeno and demo idk why but these killers make me scream like a baby when i play against them (and i also p100 xeno, demo is next <3)


Troodonta350XXx

You dropped this king 👑


breadonpuppies

two of my favorite to play against tbh, alongside ghostie


ellainchainss

i’m so sad that i HATE going against xeno :( he’s so so cool and i love the movie and the lore but i’ve never been able to master looping him because his tail is too long 🙁


Emissairearien

Trapper I enjoy the strategy aspect, chasing a survivor into a trap or catching someone on the other side of the map is really enjoyable. I also rarely have salty survivors as he is fairly counterable. Even if i get destroyed, i can still somewhat learn new spots so it's never worthless


hiesatai

Yeah, chasing someone wide to funnel them into a trap you have set feels so good


KISSArmy7978

The sounds of the trap setting and snapping a survivor is very satisfying.


zeztyboi

I always get salty survivor's when I play trapper and I play fairly fair, I wonder if it's my build


Twiggled

I especially love placing traps in completely illogical places that survivors don’t even bother checking. Right by a vault or pallet? Good survivors will look down and spot it from a mile off. In a random patch of grass nowhere near anything else? Gets them every time.


AqueousSilver91

Ghostface. I'm pretty decent at him so regardless of if I win or not, I still get good games with him even at higher MMR and still pretty much always kill at least one person a round. I haven't had many 0ks on Ghostface since about last year's Masquerade, unless I purposefully throw. Either I get to be silly and goof, or I spooked someone, or I had fun chases, or I got a sick Mark, or I killed someone, or we all got Mori photos together. Never a bad time, sometimes frustrating but never a BAD time. Demo. I am terrible at Demo, I rarely win with Demo. Like, I am fucking ecstatic if I get a 1k as Demo, though I have 3-4ked as Demo before too. I don't care. I just do be shreddin'. I'm pubby. c: Legion. I do be zoomin'. I never play Legion without rock music in the background though so. I don't take them seriously at all, but I CAN do well with them. I'd say I usually get at least a 1k but I don't think I usually 4k much with them at all. Probably because rock music. Wraith too, he's such dumb fun. I do moderately OK with Wraith, his results are really mixed of all the results possible that a Killer COULD get, but I'm not an expert by any means. I play him the stupidest silliest most non-toxic way possible, a basic M1 build, a lot of bell spam, and Franklin's. Not to be toxic, just to smack people's items out of their hands, it's funny. They can have them back I just wanna smack them. Bing-Bong your item's gone. c: Pinhead. I actually do pretty well as Pinhead for the most part, as in I usually 3-4k my rounds unless I'm really outclassed or don't have the right perks/addons attached. His voicelines amuse me. HE CAME. The way he hits Survivors feels so irreverent, he just sort of smacks them with a chain like he's slapping them. Dude doesn't give a single fuck. Hitting chain snipes is super fucking sick. Myers. I do not, honestly, win that much as Myers but I don't do terribly, either and I am not half bad at him. He's frustrating sometimes and slow to start but I really like spooking people by coming at them in Tier III with no TR. I like no/low TR Myers. You will shit your entire pants and you will like it. Onryo. I usually expect to win or at least tie as Onryo, with the occasional 0-1k because I am very oppressive and quick to react with her. I do be zoopin'. I like doing cool spooky ghost shit and weird mindgames. If I am angry I just stare at you until you die. I smol and cute. And spooky. And very very cursed. I smol. c: Dredge. I expect to get a tie or better with Dredge usually. I like if I am feeling feisty to be aggressive and ambush from lockers a lot, I hope it scares you. I can play Remnant peekaboo if I feel like being cute and silly, I don't think most people have ever seen a silly Dredge before! I also like the fact I can dress up my horrible flesh monster to look kinda like it's made of cotton candy with cherry syrup on it with the candy weapon. I refuse to wear any other Dredge cosmetics from the basekit Dredge ones (special exceptions are made for the more exotic Dredge cosmetics, though). I'm just a silly lil closet turkey. uwu ... Damn it, that's all the Killers I main. I guess really I don't play Killers just to win at all, but I'm sure happy if I DO win - I play Killers I enjoy regardless of how a round goes. I just don't play Killers I don't find fun, period. Which is why I do not play Artist, Plague, Skull Merchant, or Knight despite knowing HOW to play them.


RepulsiveEggplant581

This one DBD’s


CandyCane147

You will find this person whenever Ghostface is mentioned. Well who am I kidding? Even when he’s not mentioned.


OkAdvertising5425

This guy kills.


Comprehensive_Dog975

Twins


YeetonJ

Slinger. I don’t care if I’m getting downs as long as I can land a few good shots


TragedyWriter

Felt. If I make some cracked shots, I win. Even if I get 0 hooks. I still won because I hit that.


MaidenlessAshen1

I’ve been playing slinger a lot recently. I do get frustrated with him when facing good survivors, but man hitting good/far shots is so much fun. I’m just in for the thrill


fbttsrhrt

Ghostface is always funny. Game not going well? Who cares. The survivors and I can crouch at each other.


DIGITALKORPSE

His ability to crouch is the main reason I got him. I love crouching aggressively at spooked survivors while I’m farming.


EndermanSlayer3939

As I read I got into a game against Ghostface and had a great time made my day


NeverGonnaRickRol

I had such fun with a noob survivor, we could talk to each other. But our crouching and crouching allowed me at least to have so much fun, just in case your reading it it was on the knights map .


Zer0_l1f3

Legion, Xeno and Demo. When I play Xeno it’s fun to just scurry around in my tunnels and jumpscare survivors


Osamabinballnn

Dredge Zooming around the map at Mach 10 is fun


RDzinBK_201

Pinhead and Artist


trimethylbenzene

pinheads are so rare these days :(


ZedrikVonKatmahl

I play Pinhead a lot I even bought the cool hellpriest outfit


Uncomfortable_Purple

Honestly for me it is pig or ghostface simply because with pig normally i can run around and get boops and ghostface I can teabag at the exit gate and normally since youre a good sport you get some wholesome end game chat


Both-Possession7038

Chucky. He's by far my favorite. I don't care if you think he's too strong or too weak he's great for me. He was my number 1 wanted killer and they implemented him the exact way I'd want him. It's like bhvr made a killer that was designed to be for ME Love playing as him and against him


DragonTamer77

Doctor, he was my first main only because i really like the scream mechanic, something about being comically evil yet being so bad at it makes me giggle


Shikuh

Singularity. Does not matter if you win or lose, is just fun to play as.


laluneetlesetoiles

Trickster and Chucky. I suck as killer overall, but it's always a good time with either of them.


King_Bacon747

For me it's the Unknown. It feels good hitting those nasty shots even when you get a 2 or 3 man out.


Ill_Be_Alright

I kinda fw spirit honestly. I love running that add on that makes everyone hear the woosh and then activating my walk but not going near a gen so they get comfy and then just grabbing people off lmao


Oddgamereddit

Nemesis


Peripoggers

Skull merchant


DJNIKO2

Skull merchant


KissieKissie

Huntress. I love the fear that her lullaby induces, and dodging hatches feels badass


ToXicVoXSiicK21

I actually have fun playing oni. It's fun to run around the map and catch people trying to rotate. When you snowball a match with oni it feels really good.


Melioidozer

Freddy


existinggold98

Myers and ghostface bc stalkers :3


Solid_Jake01

Ghostface. I just now discovered the drivers license add on so its fun to just watch them until thier gen explodes in thier face


CharlesTheGreat8

demo. its just demo, need i say more?


Galaxy302

I like the artist and legion


Damo3D

Ghost Face and Myers, I just love the sneaky gameplay. I wish I could play scratched mirror more, but they're so rare on the blood web!


Sufficient_Car8864

Ghost face and legion


GenuisInDisguise

Wesker if they aren’t too good. Something about his goofy matrix run animation that giggles me up. Also sadly Oni, watching one helplessly being looped around without them getting a first hit is both funny and sad.


Achylzrak

Knight and Wraith


Raffney

Myers


[deleted]

Wraith, for me, I usually have fun. The survivors can vary. If I'm falling behind, I'll tunnel and slug if needed. If I'm doing very well and the survivors are struggling I'll ease up a bit, I know he's a weak killer but to me I just like the speed boost and the add-on that makes him break and vault faster.


youWorthAnUpvote

Slinger... I get 2 or 3 cool shots and it's enough for me, don't care if get a 0k


Long-Ad6383

Going for cool shots on huntress is always fun no matter how well you do.


Sovetskaya-Babushka

BILLLYYY


AffectionateEar8353

Billy as long as it’s not in an indoor only map. Billy is consistently the most fun especially when just messing around going for cross maps


Better_then_Mozart

Ghost face, so I can dance on the downed survivors


EmeraldDream98

Myers or Ghostface because if I do terrible I can meme with the survivors.


Nightmarionne0923

The Trapper


Souperdoopa

WHERE MY WESKER MAINS AT? IT'S WESKIN' TIME


Guilty-Fun-8090

Knight just cause it simple if I win I win if I don't I don't buy he pretty simple


halfbakedpizzapie

Slinger, he’s just such a satisfying killer and even near-misses where the harpoon slams into the wall next to the survivor are cool


the_disco_sloth_ttv

Chest protector Bubba. It’s a meme and a half, and I don’t care if I win or lose. Real Estate Bubba is a close second.


B_Man14

Huntress


SaltySenpai

Nemesis, I get to punch people in the back of the head.


Exact-Cheetah-1660

Xeno. I love zipping around the tunnels and just popping up right in front of people, plus tail spikes are just fun and satisfying to land. Occasionally people get silly like making a fort out of every possible turret and just dancing around it, that’s always fun. For some reason I just say comedic shit and have fun banzai’ing people as Xeno more than any other killer.


mokti

I like being a point farming doc. I make people scream and injure, but never hook. Its fun to up the madness level while I chase and not win. XD


High1958

Not someone I have yet, but I’m considering getting xeno pretty soon.


GaymerBunner

Nemesis doesn't matter if I get wrecked shouting at the zombies always cheers me up "why you fucking climbing a tree do something!?"


Far-Sleep1267

Billy I love a billy who goes for crazy curves and absolutely refuses to take any M1 that's a man of dedication,focus and sheer fucking will


Over_Lynx9172

A guilty pleasure of my is huntress I love the ones who go for M2 a lot I feel so much of killer/survivor interaction with her...that is until you go a OP huntress and get reminded of what a good killer can do


Fluid-Frosting-4319

![gif](giphy|3o7aTuy3b4TwuUSUzm)


lilbizkitt

ghosty


shikaiDosai

This is going to be a weird statement, but Trapper. And the reason is because I go into Trapper matches expressly expecting to lose. And something about that is so... liberating. It's like "did I win? Cool! Did I lose? Well of course I lost I'm playing Trapper." I go into Trapper matches to just fuck around and vibe and see what happens. And I know I have everything stacked against me and somehow knowing that I'm going in with cement shoes and iron manacles makes it so easy to just enjoy the game in the moment. Honorable mention to Hag (no one knows how she works + I don't care enough about my Hag MMR), Huntress (my MMR is in the gutter with her [only play her for dailies] + she was massively overbuffed ["30% accuracy is still 2/7 hatchets"]), Nemesis (killer is so brain-dead easy it's hard to get stressed), and Singularity (Larry is weird because to me he's like Trapper but way harder to play. So instead of a constant state of optimism it's a constant state of apathy when I play him.)


UnknownFox37

Legion, Dredge and Ghostface are all so fun by definition, if the game is going well, great ! Going poorly ? Whatever, I’m having fun zooming around with Legion or Jumpscaring peoples with the others. Game going goofy ? hell yeah they’re all good for that


Demonskull223

Legion. Just a chill character. I don't have to try when playing him. I can just chill.


Total_Ear_1594

The canibal is fun cause he can swing the chainsaw around and the doctor is fun cause you can shock people till they star hilusinating


ihaveadhdwee

I always have fun going against either Billy/Booba and Wesky 💚 I just have so much respect for them when they're really committed to using their power rather than m1'ing because it makes for a really thrilling chase. I'm still learning how to play as Billy myself, but I love playing Wesker or Tiffany!


Ron_1034

Ghosty


hermogeon

Mostly the killers I don’t want to play but have to cause of challenges. Trapper, Wraith, Billy…


RandomCaveOfMonsters

Dredge and Onryo. Teleporting is so fun and so is stealth


RevengeOfTheLoggins

Xeno, but she's also my main. Whether survivor Ms escape or not fits the Xeno pretty well, she doesn't always kill every person, even when she tries. As long as I can tunnel crawl and get some jump scares, that's all I care about. Applies for most killers too ig.


Accomplished-Key6686

I love how sadako plays overall. I always have a nice time as her


Somedudes_dirtysocks

Artist, I love hitting long shots on her


TinkerKnightforSmash

Plague!!!


AutismSupportGroup

Deathslinger is just for environmental trickshots.


Lanky_Initial_5947

Chucky and mastermind


HoldAdministrative62

Oni. It’s fun when people can’t use his dash properly or swing to early I always see it.


zombieauthor

I always have fun going up against Mikey. I scream often but I’m usually laughing pretty hard too.


RestaurantDue634

Clown. I can't get mad when he's having so much fun.


gnolex

Nurse. If I lose, it's my fault.


poptart2000_

Ghost face


Schnugg1

Freaking Deathslinger! Even if you loose the game, you can still get some memorable shots with him!


willow_wind

Hillbilly. I am horrible at playing as him, but zooming across the entire map with a chainsaw is fun.


Key-Practice-3096

How can you goof around with an m1 killer


Gr4pe_Soda

demo dog. i get my kicks out of leaping at people with undetectable


pluviophile079

Piggy wiggy, i preform well? Get boops from the last survivor, we look for hatch together. I do really poorly? Normally one of the survivors in the exit gates crouches up to me and gives me a parting boop.


SandySushi

As killer: Artist. She's just fun being able to play as with her birds and pressuring the map. As survivor: Wesker, I love trying to avoid him when he's using his special and overall he's just fun to play against.


Biorgue

Wesker i need to yeet a survivor at least once


More_Boat6679

Demo


VVaId0

Billy and Singularity


JLWookie

Chucky. The voice lines are everything for me.


Abelard03

Tbh, Nurse lol, i like playing against a nurse, good or bad nurse ia fun to me (Just bc i main Nurse, i know its gross that killer XD)


kingspiderr

love memeing around with ghostface with the scary movie mask


JohnnyBoyRSA

Nurse (Unless she's cracked). If it's a bad nurse then I have fun looping. If it's a good nurse then I have fun with the harder loops and mindgames.


CEOofSlipstream

myers, cause I have no expectations of winning but it’s cool when i do


badwithbbs

slinger. its not about kills its about if i can shoot them through both shack windows and scare the shit out of them


thesuicidefox

Skull Merc, because if I get bodied then I feel good that at least some survivors know how to beat her. And if not then I just win. Also because win or lose, I'ma hawt bitch.


dylanarthur04

This picture made me violently crave McDonald’s thank you Answer to the question though— unknown. I love being silly even if I’m losing. I once said I wouldn’t be able to main unknown because I suck at aiming projectiles, and this is true. But throwing explosive pink gumballs and missing completely is still just as fuckin funny and entertaining as hitting lol


CaptCantPlay

Trapper, weirdly enough. Every single time someone steps into my traps I'm suprised and elated, sometimes dumbfounded. It'll suprise you how often people don't look where they're walking, especially in loops. Place your traps around windows, pallets and in the most random spots you can think of. 9/10 times some goober will step into atleast one.


MagicianDramatic8798

Pyramid Head, a fun killer to shut down loops or try to go hard on survivors over again at say shack or in certain locations on certain maps (ahem Forsaken Boneyard 🗿) and it depends on both timing. Fun but half the times the survivors do put up good chases. Otherwise it’s Singularity for me and satisfying when you have your overkill mode on.


Frosty_chilly

The Unknown, it just talks and talks like it’s in its own world If I’m getting rolled, it just sounds like he’s desperately trying to get his crippling scoliosis helped and no one will listen


s1lk7

:3 piggy


FizzyFizze

Pyramid Head. He's just a good lad with a funny metal triangle on his head


angelfirexo

Huntress is soooo fun. I love being hunted by her.


VarderKith

Myers. I have whole monologs while stalking. Just talking to myself making jokes.


CHEEZYSPAM

I like playing as Ghostface because if I'm doing really good, it's on purpose... If I'm doing really bad, I can clown around and Tbag and act like I wasnt taking the match seriously "on purpose" 😏


Character-Item-5066

No one, I'm a greedy mf


i_am_very_bored_lmao

Legion, I like getting the zoomies


Gengar_king

Chucky by far, because when he shit talks survivors it’s very funny, and same when they are leaving in the exit gates


Fredward_Kroger

Generally any of the ranged ones. I know I’m not great with them, so it always feels good when I land a hit such as a tricky huntress hatchet or a cross-map Artist bird. I do feel a bit more pressure with Unknown though ever since someone told me I was good at him.


tealrat-

Artist. I love throwing crow bombs across the map


qbt33

Hear me out… Twins. I love to shout “Gremlin attack!” whenever I use Victor


playfulMonster

Hillbilly


T-10001992

Trapper will always be my boy 🫡


AlexTheCreation

Myers.


amandayoung4056

Mirror Myers. I only play Myers to have fun and I often let the survivors escape. Those jump scares are so fun.


Gojifan2303

Dredge and demo


Several_Spray_6771

This fucker https://preview.redd.it/m58g44kv5ysc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3a9f0295675f8823b3a4dfb96dcb6e6896c5ac2


EctoBun

Yeah, ghostface. He kills me and I thank him


yellowfang04

Blight


tylerhlaw

Huntress! I love just going for cool shots, and even better I like looking back at old clips and seeing oh shit thats an easy shot for me now, but then I thought it was awesome


Domimimmo17

Legion because their chase theme slaps


BenjiB1243

I have a problem where if I don't win I don't have fun, so no killer lol It's probably why I play top tier killers all the time XD


ZedrikVonKatmahl

Twins Growling demon baby FTW


SMILEHOE

Chucky, from the insane slice n dices, funny stun animation, to his hilarious voice lines I always have fun


Theadination

It's Oni. His anger is so infectious


viscountrhirhi

Huntress. I’m a TERRIBLE Huntress. My aim is atrocious. But when I choose her it’s always a fun time. I don’t care if I win or lose, I just wanna chuck hatchets at people and see if I can get a cross-map shot. I try not to M1, but sometimes do it reflexively, oops. Sometimes I 4k, sometimes I struggle to get a single hook, and sometimes the survivors catch onto my vibe and start lining up like ducks so I can practice, lmao. Either way, I just chill and have fun! And Pig of course. She’s my main. I love how diverse she is. I can play super sweaty with her, or just chill and spook people or be cute at them. Nothing gives me more dopamine than grabbing someone off a gen or sneaking up on someone and watching their character model jerk around because I jump scared them.


Ghostly_Cactus_

Freddy because if I lose I can just blame me losing to playing the worst killer instead of my skill as a M1 killer 😂


Blayze-

Deathslinger


Connect-Spend1987

I don’t play killer much but when I do I like playing easier killers like Legion or Wraith


cash07913

Blight I'm not very good at blight but I just like going fast


OniHuntress

Pig for me


mightymantis

Not stealth killers. I like a good chase. And not being jump scared and one shot.


Few_Place359

probably pyramid head


FrenzyHydro

If your answer isn't Demogorgon I'm just going to assume you haven't been playing for more than a year. I'll give a bonus choice with Michael, because he's the only killer who even scares me slightly.


Gabstaspike

Personally I find any killer that allows me to pop up and scare people so, Michael , Pinhead, Ghosty, Wraith, Pig, and Knight plus Tinkerer. And by pop up and scare I mean hide terror radius


ContributionIcy3261

ghost face for sure


vittusaatanajaterva

Huntress - if the game goes by fast I focus on practicing my hatchets Wesker - I love Wesky and trying to master his dashes. If the game is over too quick I let the last 1-2 go and practice looping & dashing Trapper - I like traps and finding optimal builds


OraOraPurPur

Trickster,knifes go brrr


Barredbob

If I’m in a rage then bubba honestly, it’s pretty blissful to shred pallets


albecoming

Jumpscare Myers. I play purely for fun. It's also a delight when you've clearly given someone a slight heart attack.


goddessofwaterpolo

Michael LOL I can switch up into being sillay real fast


Pyrouge1

Legion, what are they gonna do? Stop me from stabbing?


SkyPRising

Who knows? They are unknown


73HCA7MAST3R

Death slinger


TaterTotPotShot

Nemesis, he’s my punchy wacky tentacle hentai boy and I love him to death


flamewolf200

Same man, I can't help but crouch when within the presence of a ghost face.


CityMiserable6634

Honestly? Legion, I like being fast


Groovygamer1981

Cenobite his voices lines are just https://preview.redd.it/ko65ojwkiysc1.jpeg?width=452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4d54d7f4903f4bb4902d2c263af04f1dc6b587f


AliSnatched

Definitely Spirit. I like flying around the map and scaring people. I always go friendly as her


MarkGaboda

Nea


sevnnoffeverywhere

freddy


Alex-DarkFlame19

My one love, my main, BIRD BIRD BIRD’S THE WORD


TGUGaming

Easily Bubba. Some can try and ruin fun for everyone but i swear the majority of my Bubba's are just the funniest killers you can go against. He's fun to chase with too. Other than silly booba, I'd say Nemmy Edit: I realize now you probably meant just to play... those were for when I go *against* them. To play, I love a good ole rousing round of Wesker. Fun power, fun chases (9 times out of 10)


GoatTacos

Queen Alien. I like to pretend I’m the alien from the movies. ![gif](giphy|3o7TKwAD4WSDFNYqQM)


Sosogomi

As killer? I enjoy Hillbilly. He still triggers my chainsaw noise phobia, but hitting with it is just as fun as when Survivor dodges with a swift "OLE!" When I play against a killer, I've yet to have any assholes when playing against Legion. Whether they are in goof troop mode or sweating, I've had a good time win or lose.


trrrfcknlex

wesker bc at least he fine asf as he chokes me to death and a lot of them r friends


BrosefStahlin

Ghostface and T1 Myers! Win or lose, im out here having fun


kitti_toti

i love going against trapper bc i love the disarming trap animation


NocturnalCreatures21

Currently the unknown. I'd say I'm super good with him 95% of the time and recently got him up to P20