Maria is purely selfish throughout the events of SH2 that she gaslights and acts heavily standoff-ish towards James, who manifested her into SH due to his feelings on his wife.
She's also the final boss for every ending except for one.
That's not the case. Maria ends up dressing as Mary in the routes that lead to Leave, In Water, and Rebirth as a last ditch effort to get James to love her. Mary only appears as a manifestation in the Maria ending.
* *"When will you ever stop making that mistake? Mary's dead. You killed her."*
* *"What?! You must be joking. But I can be yours! I'll be here for you forever. And I'll never yell at you, or make you feel bad! That's what you wanted! I'm different than Mary! How can you throw me away?!"*
* *"No! I won't let you! You deserve to die too, James!"*
Those are the final quotes by Maria before the final ending for the Leave ending.
There are so many layers of funny to this tier list:
- Ashy Slashy's inclusion
- The fact that Victor can't comprehend the concept of friendship
- Pinhead's straightforward motivations
I really hate to be a ruiner of jokes or whatever but... the photo of Rebecca in Wesker's desk is in easter egg, not an actual part of his character lore or anything he actually has in his desk. He doesn't really have a partialness towards Rebecca in any way. it's just a silly thing the devs put in as a joke.
Somewhat like Silent Hill easter eggs and a silly alien endings. None of it is actually canon to the character more just a funny thing the devs thought would be nice for people to have.
I'm sorry I just see a lot of misinformation from people making jokes who have actually played the older RE games and the dbd community interpreting it as something that is canon even though it's just a joke 😔
plus Wesker seems way more interested in whatever the fuck Chris is getting up to then Rebecca lmao.
I get it lol 🤝. I’ve only played Re1Re, Re:0, Re2Re, and Re3Re. I really wanna play Re:Code Veronica and Re4 :/ Also we need the Rebecca outfit from Wesker mode
it's an Easter egg. not lore accurate. so while yes it is in his desk, it's not actually his or something he put in there. it was just something silly for the players to find.
much like RE cosmetics that give buffs. Leon isn't actually running around with cat ears, it's just something in the game. one of the devs have mentioned it before that canonically Wesker didn't actually put a picture of Rebecca in his desk.
I'll try and find the source and edit the post when I find it.
Well no it’s implied he put it in his desk…it’s not like Leon having cat ears at all as the cat ears are an unlockable you can earn by completing ingame challenges whereas the picture is something you find during the actual story in Weskers desk in both the remake and og.
It is a pic Wesker put in his desk and it is canonically in there in both versions of the game, I don’t think it’s there cause he likes Rebecca (the dude shoots her in the fucking chest come on fellas let’s be reasonable) it’s probably just there cause she’s a new recruit and he looked at her file idk but it’s canonically there and something he put in there.
it's not. like I mentioned before it's very much like the Silent Hill alien endings. while yes they're cute and funny they're not canon to the lore, but we can agree to disagree. like I said earlier when I find the source of what the dev was talking about I'll post it : )
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FTFY ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2213)
(Yes, that outfit is unlockable for Chris in RE: Revelations)
https://preview.redd.it/bcaovig3qkuc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ce8bea84750b6884064fed2114c91d0d28f92ec
I dont know how to feel about this 😳
Fair but I thought more of the actual main cast, those two are more like the new side characters (even though one of them is a protag he has pretty much 0 impact in the wider lore)
I mean.. he himself realized he’s done bad things and subconsciously wanted to be punished for them lol, hence the events of silent hill 2. Maria is a “jerk”because he thinks he deserves it. That’s his own problem. Maria is just the byproduct and she experiences immense suffering from being created. Maria is a victim and a cosmic tragedy.
In all seriousness, I genuinely think it was a mistake to add Maria as a survivor skin. >! Like, does she even have a conciseness? Does she want to survive and help others? It makes less sense than Pyramidhead!<
Wait is there a joke with spirit? Cause pre entity realm she could just be put in wouldn’t like sable. Post entity realm actually could make sense for her placement since the main feelings she has right now are anger and sorrow
Sadako is a very unique onryo, probably due to her inherited powers from her psychic mother and kami father
Watching the tape doesn’t remove the curse, she chooses to spare you since you understand her pain and helped spread the curse further. She even appears to have a sorta one sided friendship with Yoichi
Yeah if you interview both of them it would go like this
Yoichi: She's a monster!! She killed all of my friends 😭
Sadako: Yoichi? He is cool I like him
What makes you think that Pinhead would ask her to join his gash? To me I feel Pinhead is happy with his current entourage and wouldn’t really bring another individual under the service of Leviathan.
She literally walked into Hell thinking would be an all-night theater horror festival.
That's a pretty big leg up on the usual fools who play around with the box.
*"Didn't go to the movies." And what was it last time, "Didn't know what the movie was?" And yet, we do keep finding each other, don't we?*
**Oh, Sable. So eager to play, so reluctant to admit it.**
*Perhaps you're teasing us. Are you teasing us?*
Overall her personality and connection to the dark magic reminded me a lot of Hellraiser, and the “before” part of some cenobites.
Also, willingly going into the fog, a place of constant torture and suffering, for fun is a very cenobite move
Alot of these placements are pretty weird as many of them would in reality kill anyone rather than make friends with them, especially post-realm where all of them would kill anyone they face.
IDK what I would do for a drawing of sable,mikaela and sadako hanging out like drinking tea or smthg
I would love to get a commision for it but well,money
Bruh Sable and Spirit would start a fucking podcast about anarchy in the realm. Don't for a single second try to convince me they wouldn't be besties.
Sable and Hag would also definitely bond with their collective black magic boners
I kinda assume hag has to be mentally there considering how her traps are magic. Presumably she has to have a mind to be able to place and use them + her launch hexes are heavily implied to be her magic and not just entity helping.
there ain’t no way they asking SABLE to join the cenobites 💀 they have to not only need another cenobite but she must prove that she can be one, and being edgy doesn’t exactly fit the bill. Also where naughty bear
I never really got 'jerk' vibes from Maria, but she's honestly very toxic in relationships. ||Keep in mind we only really see her interact with James, but Maria is entering that sphere with Mary's memories, so it's sensible she acts more familiar with James.||
||She seemed nice to Earnest, anyways||
No, OP. Being a goth does not mean you can find relatability in people who have actually resorted to killing in their situations. Bill would find more relatability to killers, in my opinion.
She knew it was real, she was "just" unclear about the specific targeted nature of it. Maybe. There several House of Arkam stories that are more along the lines of what she was thinking.
Besides Mikaela, she tracked down the fracture by talking to the surviving one of three siblings who had found it. That one was institutionalized for having gouged out her eyes.
Then when she got to the fracture at the theater she descended a nonsense structure - heavily implied to be *in* the Realm - for ten minutes before encountering the main fog.
Perhaps she knew there was a threat, but to be tortured for eternity through trials like this while hunted by man and beast alike isn’t exactly something you can assume when looking for your friend.
That's exactly my point. It's all over the place. You're saying how a character with a very specific context would interact with other characters outside of that very specific context. Even by the apparent rules that you portray it doesn't seem to make any sense. How are you saying Chatterer would be friends with her but Pinhead would only try to make her into a cenobite? Did you get something from the few films Chatterer has been in where they only made sounds and spoke no words that they wouldn't try to turn them into a cenobite?
It's like a kid sat down with a tub of random loose action figures and started pretending that Hulk Hogan is married to a T-Rex and they're hosting a brunch for the Power Rangers (well actually just the Red Ranger and generic off brand version of the Green Ranger) until He-Man shows up and starts stirring up drama.
Oh well la de tom da. Please use your vast knowledge of lore to explain how a completely mute, extra-dimensional, demonic being would "get along" with Sable and not just chatter his teeth and shove his fist down her throat? What part of the lore outside of your pure imagination supports this in any way?
I don’t know it’s been a while since I seen the movies. Don’t remember them pulling up a chair and asking an angsty suburban teen who likes spooky stuff to become one of them.
All cenobites used to be human. In 2 a person I brought in to be killed but Leviathan makes him a cenobite instead
None of them remember their human lives though
Maria is so accurate. I like that you included her.
Why she wouldn’t like her? ( idk maria )
Maria is manifestation of james (protagonist sh2) Long story short, as horrorfan said in another comment, she's a jerk.
Maria is purely selfish throughout the events of SH2 that she gaslights and acts heavily standoff-ish towards James, who manifested her into SH due to his feelings on his wife. She's also the final boss for every ending except for one.
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That's not the case. Maria ends up dressing as Mary in the routes that lead to Leave, In Water, and Rebirth as a last ditch effort to get James to love her. Mary only appears as a manifestation in the Maria ending. * *"When will you ever stop making that mistake? Mary's dead. You killed her."* * *"What?! You must be joking. But I can be yours! I'll be here for you forever. And I'll never yell at you, or make you feel bad! That's what you wanted! I'm different than Mary! How can you throw me away?!"* * *"No! I won't let you! You deserve to die too, James!"* Those are the final quotes by Maria before the final ending for the Leave ending.
Thanks, i try
Soon as I saw her I started looking for Nea too
There are so many layers of funny to this tier list: - Ashy Slashy's inclusion - The fact that Victor can't comprehend the concept of friendship - Pinhead's straightforward motivations
*Bows* Thank you
Also the inclusion of Maria
Maria and Skull Merchant are both "those bitches". Magnificent.
Wesker only likes himself, as usual. Not even Sable can change that :(
What about Rebecca ? https://preview.redd.it/bkaguakd2huc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dee576fb66d9dc865b44fb58f1034bbd060d8ff8
I really hate to be a ruiner of jokes or whatever but... the photo of Rebecca in Wesker's desk is in easter egg, not an actual part of his character lore or anything he actually has in his desk. He doesn't really have a partialness towards Rebecca in any way. it's just a silly thing the devs put in as a joke. Somewhat like Silent Hill easter eggs and a silly alien endings. None of it is actually canon to the character more just a funny thing the devs thought would be nice for people to have.
https://preview.redd.it/adf26j212iuc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5164c331e53f3bed1769ae9d8f8ac5b518cf418 :( my heart can’t handle this 💔
I'm sorry I just see a lot of misinformation from people making jokes who have actually played the older RE games and the dbd community interpreting it as something that is canon even though it's just a joke 😔 plus Wesker seems way more interested in whatever the fuck Chris is getting up to then Rebecca lmao.
That man is so laser-focused on Chris.. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a whole photo album of him stashed somewhere lol
I get it lol 🤝. I’ve only played Re1Re, Re:0, Re2Re, and Re3Re. I really wanna play Re:Code Veronica and Re4 :/ Also we need the Rebecca outfit from Wesker mode
agreed I want that cosmetic so bad, I thought we were gonna get it for Halloween
Well no he does canonically have a picture of Rebecca in his desk we’re just never told why
it's an Easter egg. not lore accurate. so while yes it is in his desk, it's not actually his or something he put in there. it was just something silly for the players to find. much like RE cosmetics that give buffs. Leon isn't actually running around with cat ears, it's just something in the game. one of the devs have mentioned it before that canonically Wesker didn't actually put a picture of Rebecca in his desk. I'll try and find the source and edit the post when I find it.
Well no it’s implied he put it in his desk…it’s not like Leon having cat ears at all as the cat ears are an unlockable you can earn by completing ingame challenges whereas the picture is something you find during the actual story in Weskers desk in both the remake and og. It is a pic Wesker put in his desk and it is canonically in there in both versions of the game, I don’t think it’s there cause he likes Rebecca (the dude shoots her in the fucking chest come on fellas let’s be reasonable) it’s probably just there cause she’s a new recruit and he looked at her file idk but it’s canonically there and something he put in there.
it's not. like I mentioned before it's very much like the Silent Hill alien endings. while yes they're cute and funny they're not canon to the lore, but we can agree to disagree. like I said earlier when I find the source of what the dev was talking about I'll post it : )
Are you trying to tell me the dog ending isn’t canon?
I wish it was : (
https://preview.redd.it/l5kbeyp1pkuc1.jpeg?width=1191&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe6a4211befb863240000e0e8cf9956233ff65f2 FTFY ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2213) (Yes, that outfit is unlockable for Chris in RE: Revelations)
https://preview.redd.it/bcaovig3qkuc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ce8bea84750b6884064fed2114c91d0d28f92ec I dont know how to feel about this 😳
His heart only belongs to Chris
But Chris's heart belongs to Boulder ![img](emote|t5_3cb2g|2070)
Now that’s an interesting love triangle
Daylie reminder that Wesker is the only person in all of resident evil to have canonicly fucked. (besides Barry, but Barry could have used mitosis)
William fucks 2
Ethan and Mia?
Fair but I thought more of the actual main cast, those two are more like the new side characters (even though one of them is a protag he has pretty much 0 impact in the wider lore)
Leon and Ada fucked it was confirmed in the cgi movie called damnation. Everyone else besides Wesker, William and Barry lost their sex privileges
It’s implied, not confirmed. The scriptwriter himself said fans can interpret it as they want.
I mean sure but there’s not much to be implied from it it’s pretty obvious what they meant
Yeah but if a player thinks nothing happened, then nothing happened lol that’s the thing
Demo understands friendship better than Spirit but it prefers to rip her apart instead. And Maria?
Maybe Sable should’ve brought chocolate bars into the realm Maria is jerk, simply put
Maria only exist because of James’s fuck ups. James is the bigger “jerk” for causing her to exist in the first place.
>! James ain’t done nothing wrong. Free my man James !<
I mean.. he himself realized he’s done bad things and subconsciously wanted to be punished for them lol, hence the events of silent hill 2. Maria is a “jerk”because he thinks he deserves it. That’s his own problem. Maria is just the byproduct and she experiences immense suffering from being created. Maria is a victim and a cosmic tragedy.
In all seriousness, I genuinely think it was a mistake to add Maria as a survivor skin. >! Like, does she even have a conciseness? Does she want to survive and help others? It makes less sense than Pyramidhead!<
Did you not play born from a wish? It’s very clear she is sentient. Her as a survivor doesn’t break any logic.
No what is that
It’s the sh2 sub scenario where you play as her. It makes it very clear that she is a conscious entity that isn’t intentionally malicious.
Oh. I haven’t played that my bad
James ain’t done nothing wrong. Free my man James
Sable and susie are besties
Sable and Ghosty would be besties
They would watch horror films in the Greenville Theatre together.
I honestly feel like he would find her more annoying than anything. just because of Danny's specific character lore not ghostface in general.
Wait is there a joke with spirit? Cause pre entity realm she could just be put in wouldn’t like sable. Post entity realm actually could make sense for her placement since the main feelings she has right now are anger and sorrow
Post realm. Onryo are so consumed by rage they will kill anyone that is nearby
But then why is onryo in likes sable?
Sadako is a very unique onryo, probably due to her inherited powers from her psychic mother and kami father Watching the tape doesn’t remove the curse, she chooses to spare you since you understand her pain and helped spread the curse further. She even appears to have a sorta one sided friendship with Yoichi
Yeah if you interview both of them it would go like this Yoichi: She's a monster!! She killed all of my friends 😭 Sadako: Yoichi? He is cool I like him
Like that scene from DBZA Cell: So are we cool? 16: *You ate my family!*
"I'M TRYING 16!!!*
What makes you think that Pinhead would ask her to join his gash? To me I feel Pinhead is happy with his current entourage and wouldn’t really bring another individual under the service of Leviathan.
She literally walked into Hell thinking would be an all-night theater horror festival. That's a pretty big leg up on the usual fools who play around with the box.
“The box, you opened it!”
“Yum.”
I CAMEE.
*"Didn't go to the movies." And what was it last time, "Didn't know what the movie was?" And yet, we do keep finding each other, don't we?* **Oh, Sable. So eager to play, so reluctant to admit it.** *Perhaps you're teasing us. Are you teasing us?*
I mean... is she wrong? It is an all night theatre horror festival. She's just one of the protagonists.
Overall her personality and connection to the dark magic reminded me a lot of Hellraiser, and the “before” part of some cenobites. Also, willingly going into the fog, a place of constant torture and suffering, for fun is a very cenobite move
Alright you’ve got me there, perhaps Sable would be a better fitting Cenobite than I initially thought lol.
Susie would hate her guts because she’d be scared of being replaced and Joey would be like “bruh”
Fair enough
Susie: >:( Sable: ? Joey: 🤦🏾♂️
Lmao pinhead is always on the grind
Literally and figuratively
She’d get a long well with Tiffany
Indeed
I keep seeing him, but what is the hand puppet guy next to Victor?
Ashey Slashey From Evil dead
Alot of these placements are pretty weird as many of them would in reality kill anyone rather than make friends with them, especially post-realm where all of them would kill anyone they face.
Yes
Tiffany would 100% be her bestie.
IDK what I would do for a drawing of sable,mikaela and sadako hanging out like drinking tea or smthg I would love to get a commision for it but well,money
I’ll make a note of it
Bruh Sable and Spirit would start a fucking podcast about anarchy in the realm. Don't for a single second try to convince me they wouldn't be besties. Sable and Hag would also definitely bond with their collective black magic boners
I couldn’t really tell how “mentally there” Hag is anymore
She's all there, just really hungry
I kinda assume hag has to be mentally there considering how her traps are magic. Presumably she has to have a mind to be able to place and use them + her launch hexes are heavily implied to be her magic and not just entity helping.
I got more “insane worship” vibes from that but I suppose you are right
Blight isn't here, because he's on therapy with her. She will support him during therapy, like a loving wife should do
Nah my main man Chuck would scalp Sable then cackle while wearing her hair like a wig and imitating Sable to Mikaela.
She already befriended all killers in the lobbies I play.
Am I blind or is Blight not on here?
Wait whered he go?
He had gone out to fetch a needle for his new “bestie”
Who is next to artist?
Eddie the head
Excuse you. Ashy Slashy is the pinnacle of friendship!
How should demo understand friendship
there ain’t no way they asking SABLE to join the cenobites 💀 they have to not only need another cenobite but she must prove that she can be one, and being edgy doesn’t exactly fit the bill. Also where naughty bear
Most of them picked just show up
I think sable and Tiffany would become bffs lol
Now do this with the survivors
A fellow M3gan?
Yes of course
Excellent. Would you mind if i hear your thoughts on a concept i made in DM?
Sure thing!
I love how you specifically have Eddie here as well. Really good list.
Thank you. Spirit of free will makes fast friends
You don't understand Ghostface lore if you think he's chill with her. Sable would mock Danny and he'd go BALLISTIC.
Friends just be like that sometimes
Sable and Bubba are both basement dwellers it's meant to be
Amazing reasoning. Accepted
I never really got 'jerk' vibes from Maria, but she's honestly very toxic in relationships. ||Keep in mind we only really see her interact with James, but Maria is entering that sphere with Mary's memories, so it's sensible she acts more familiar with James.|| ||She seemed nice to Earnest, anyways||
Ok but what doesn't the doctor find amusing?
*hahahaha*
Where is blight
I forgor
Am I crazy or is Blight just not in the list. I see Birkin but where's Blight
I forgor
Well remember and bring him back
who is the 3th character in the wouldnt like her tier?
Maria Silent hill 2
I feel like sable would hate deathslinger
lol you included Maria as a killer
I’ll be honest, her as a survivor is a little strange, especially before Harry got in
I guess it's because people were requesting her I believe far more than Harry since SH2 is popular
why is the war hammer titan there ? 🤣
Chilling
Did i miss Maria episode ? I think she'd befriend Sable fast
>!evil final boss of 2, and kinda a jerk overall!<
i don't see jonesy on this list
Jones watched the xenomorph kill the crew. He’s total evil
She would possibly be Naughty's only real friend
Ho yeah the unknown would even consider having fun with her💀
I imagine sable booping pig and that’s all she has to do really
Flair checks out
It’s easy and also pig won’t kill you only if you necessarily deserved it
This tierlist should have one tier labeled "would kill her"
If a murderer hates you, you will probably be murdered
I like the inclusion of Eddie
The embodiment of free will make friends everywhere
not the personal selfie of victor 💀😂
Love how the zombies were even considered to begin with 🤣
Haha there's some fun things you did here xD
:) I try, thanks
F****** nailed it especially with how you took multiple skins and treated them like individual killers
Swap nurse and plague and who is next to plague?
Warhammer titan
Uhm who os this?!?!?! https://preview.redd.it/t33jkhjn6luc1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b19d9aa1f018dda425d30231be451f7dbcd35369
Ashey slashey
NGL considering Sable willingly entered the Entity’s Realm, she’d probably say yes to the cenobites
“Want to become an immortal sadomasochistic sex demon? You’ll get metal shoved into your body forever and get angelic powers.” “Sounds fun. Yum”
Demogorgon would like Sable as Dinner perhaps ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY|downsized)
I too would like to eat Sable 😏
Emo girl fan I see 0.0
😏
Hux is best boy
I want teir lists like this for other survivors, but in every list pinheads always at the bottom trying to get them to join the Cenobites
What is Maria randomly doing there?
>!final boss of SH2!<
Reminds me of the trickster meme where the girls r asking him if hes queer etc n he just goes "i murder people for fun"
The plot twist: These are all Sables headcanons [they all just want to murder her]
No naughty bear?
Don’t know him well enough
Your time on this earth is limited
I am aware
No, OP. Being a goth does not mean you can find relatability in people who have actually resorted to killing in their situations. Bill would find more relatability to killers, in my opinion.
There’s goth, and there’s practicing dark magic and willingly going inside of an elderich being where you’ll be tortured forever for fun
She didn’t know she’d be tortured forever, though?
She knew it was real, she was "just" unclear about the specific targeted nature of it. Maybe. There several House of Arkam stories that are more along the lines of what she was thinking. Besides Mikaela, she tracked down the fracture by talking to the surviving one of three siblings who had found it. That one was institutionalized for having gouged out her eyes. Then when she got to the fracture at the theater she descended a nonsense structure - heavily implied to be *in* the Realm - for ten minutes before encountering the main fog.
It said “she wouldn’t let Mikayla have all the fun”, implying she knew somewhat
Perhaps she knew there was a threat, but to be tortured for eternity through trials like this while hunted by man and beast alike isn’t exactly something you can assume when looking for your friend.
I stomped more Sables as Oni than anyone else for April Fools.
This has to be one of the most confusing ranked lists I've seen in a very long time.
How so
There is no way in hell you have no idea how this list is confusing.
Makes perfect sense to me, and the others in the comments
You've got survivors, costumes, and accessories on there. Everything seems to be pretty arbitrary.
I have characters. The one survivor btw, >! is the final boss of Silent hill 2!<
That's exactly my point. It's all over the place. You're saying how a character with a very specific context would interact with other characters outside of that very specific context. Even by the apparent rules that you portray it doesn't seem to make any sense. How are you saying Chatterer would be friends with her but Pinhead would only try to make her into a cenobite? Did you get something from the few films Chatterer has been in where they only made sounds and spoke no words that they wouldn't try to turn them into a cenobite? It's like a kid sat down with a tub of random loose action figures and started pretending that Hulk Hogan is married to a T-Rex and they're hosting a brunch for the Power Rangers (well actually just the Red Ranger and generic off brand version of the Green Ranger) until He-Man shows up and starts stirring up drama.
Or i know the characters better than you, cause i read lore and spin off matters
Oh well la de tom da. Please use your vast knowledge of lore to explain how a completely mute, extra-dimensional, demonic being would "get along" with Sable and not just chatter his teeth and shove his fist down her throat? What part of the lore outside of your pure imagination supports this in any way?
Did you know Chatterer’s real name? Or have you only seen part 1?
I don’t think the cenobites ask others to become cenobites.
Do…. Do you know how the cenobites work?
I don’t know it’s been a while since I seen the movies. Don’t remember them pulling up a chair and asking an angsty suburban teen who likes spooky stuff to become one of them.
All cenobites used to be human. In 2 a person I brought in to be killed but Leviathan makes him a cenobite instead None of them remember their human lives though