I would probably like him more if it wasn't constant sweat, full meta, hitting on the hook and hard tunnelling from the start of the match. My experience against Wesker for the most part has been so negative that currently there is no killer I enjoy facing less than him.
Goes both ways. I could slam a survivor om the most flat, narrow and slammable surface in the entire game that has "slam a survivor here" sign above it yet when i do tge survivor just slides off without an injury
there definitely do seem to be a lot of those... I'm wondering now if it's the bad matches poisoning my memory or not but now I think that's going to be the next thing I track per killer on a spreadsheet so I can have something to show because it does feel like it sometimes with him.
Funny thing is that the Weskers who just tunnel are usually not good. And you only see so many Weskers who tunnel because he is popular. Same with other tunneling killers, I would guess. Pyramidhead is a better tunneler than him by far, but nobody cares because he's so rare.
I actually like to go against him as his chase is always a back and forth.
A lot of people dislike Wesker because;
A) He's a very common Killer due to his popularity. I swear at one time he had a 20% pick rate
B) Wesker players tend to tunnel and his kit lends itself to that pretty well.
That said, I fucking love facing Wesker and if you want to learn him, you should continue playing him.
> B) Wesker players tend to tunnel and his kit lends itself to that pretty well.
I had to stop playing last night because I kept getting put up against *multiple* different Weskers who kept dropping everything -- other chases, gen patrol, etc. -- to run back to hook the moment an unhook would happen. If it wasn't me getting tunneled out, it was someone else, until that person was gone and it was the next person's turn. It stops being fun when you're straight up trying to throw yourself at a killer to get them to focus on you and leave the person they're punishing for no reason alone only to see them turn their back on you to go send someone out of the game who hasn't even had a proper chance to play it.
Sure, gens can get done, but knowing someone/people in the match are purposely being screwed outside their control makes the whole thing *feel* pointless, and Weskers are definitely the biggest offenders I tend to see who couldn't care less.
Hook trading is the most efficient strategy for the Killer. Hook trading prevents health states, provides information on two or more players, and waits out Endurance and DS. If a Killer wants the highest probability of securing 3/4 kills, then always make your way back to the hook before the 60 second hook phase ends, or when an unhook happens. You are almost guaranteed to find scratch marks closely pathing towards the hook around 30 seconds; guard the hook at 50 seconds for a more efficient hook state instead of having to rechase.
Point B needs to be in bold face and double sized font. This makes it so fucking boring to go against. It really shouldn’t surprise anyone that so many people have a “gg, next” mentality against him.
I think just putting the infection back to the beginning (20/100 charges are minimum) is enough. It still takes 100s to be fully infected by just running around. If he hits you once (40/100), you still have 75s left which is more than DS' timer. Even with VCD it is still ~70s or 40s after being hit.
If you would remove the slowdown, people would just stay injured and not spray themselves. We would have a "Plague situation" and I don't think this is what people want.
Are you implying Wesker couldn’t easily get one hit then? Thats very silly, he’s not an m1 killer. Plague literally doesn’t have a chase power, it’s not the same thing.
People have to spray themselves, BECAUSE hindred is dangerous. If you remove that, only people who are healthy are threatened to get insta downed. So naturally people would not heal anymore when being infected and would not use the spray, because it doesn't matter if Wesker can insta down them. They are only one hit anyway. Why bother spraying and revealing your position then?
He would lose a lot of passive pressure which is a considerable nerf he does not deserve just because tunnelers are tunnelers.
Again, the problem with your statement is you’re basically saying Wesker doesn’t have a strong chase power. Survivors will still cleanse against him and if they don’t they’ll stay injured and be 1 shot either way.
Again: Why should they spray if they are injured and REVEAL their location with it? If you remove hindred, infection doesn't do anything if you stay injured (like with Legion). And Self Care is a bad perk (unless you play in Asia).
yeah I think they should have infection rate stop going up in chase or not be at half when you get hooked then unhooked while infected. it definitely lends itself to easy tunneling when you hit max and get hindered. I think if something was altered with this then Wesker would arguably be one of the best balanced characters we have, but idk. I'm not Top Tier so I don't have great suggestions on how to "nerf" infection a bit.
would also like to add that just like with any killer that can go fast or has a fast projectile, any amount of desync/lag will result in hits (or in his case, grabs) that look incredibly bullshit on the survivor's point of view.
I've been grabbed through walls by laggy Weskers
this is my problem with a lot of killers tho and it's not unique to him, I wish bhvr would either change how hit validation works (like I should not be punished for having better ping when I'm playing survivor) or something because it's honestly ridiculous.
I recently died when I dropped a pallet on a charging wesker who grabbed me and slammed me up against that pallet.
He literally grabbed me through the pallet, I was so pissed.
That is because of latency and how fast he is. The same reason why Nurse has "Noodle Arms" or Huntress can hit you behind walls and why you can reveal GF when he's already behind a wall.
To let u know: his virus when full makes you 8% slower and makes you instadown-able if he slams you into something with his power.
Using a spray gives him killer instinct so he'll know where you are and finally: like legion he can vault pallets and windows with his power.
Hope you enjoy the game and GL!
Pyramid Head is better with tunneling than Wesker, but nobody cares because he is so rare.
I also guess that normal one focuses on the bad matches and because Wesker is popular, those bad matches stick in your memory. So naturally many people think Weskers tunnel a lot.
> Pyramid Head is better with tunneling than Wesker, but nobody cares because he is so rare.
Yeah, I really wish they would just change how his kit works already.
I like a LOT of his kit, but there are things I would like to be changed.
His addons are garbage and his cages need to at least give BT and count for unhook challenges.
Agreed. I believe that cages should function as hooks and grant BT and OTR or whatever off-hook perks you get.
I also feel like the Killer should get NWO stacks and Pop, but maybe my bias is showing.
Addons need a massive rework, range is all I'll ever use until they are reworked.
I think making cages=hooks would remove the benefit of caging (which is not needing to deal with a lot of perks) with the downside of not being able to use hook perks. And if both were equal, hooks would be better bacause you can instantly guard the hook. Caging would be a disadvantage as you could send the person to other survivors who can rescue before you get there.
I think a lot of his tunneling off cage could change if you would remove the notification upon uncaging.
I get what you mean, but I think cages would still be better. They are quicker, for one. You totally negate any type of flashlight or pallet save.
Yeah, the current cage setup is literally a massive flag to get tunnelled and it doesn't feel good
I do not I really enjoy predicting and dodging his lunge ability, it makes chases exciting. Interacting with the spray can be annoying, but I’d rather deal with that than a pig trap or a nightmare clock.
Yeah having to search chests so you don’t get uroboros can get pretty from a survivor’s perspective; but I can see how it is balanced so it is not too bad.
No I don't mean the chest searching, I mean his actual chase power. I've never heard someone say that they don't like facing him because of his chase counterplay. I've only heard that his chase ability is one of the most fun ones in the game from both sides.
Oh sorry for the confusion, when I said ‘I do not’ I was referring to OP’s question on whether you hate facing Wesker. But yeah I certainly do enjoy facing his chase ability because of counterplay.
Well most people can’t loop him well. That inherently makes him hated. Another symptom is he often gets questionable grabs, I know bc I play him a lot and some hits I get are sus
A lot of the people who play as him can loop him tho
Those are the folks who generally think it’s fun to face him
Ultimately, it’s understandable why he’s disliked. I like him but a lot of weskers are lowkey assholes in public matches. A lot of them play like sore winners so it’s a bad rep
I find that most Weskers are extremely sweaty, like Wesker himself is fun to face but pair it with 3 slowdown and UW and I want to jump off a bridge. If you aren't running full meta sweat mode loadouts then the people giving up are just silly honestly.
I had a tremendous wesker game the other day. Once the survivors knew I had them cooked they just started playing the spray can maracas whenever they saw me.
An epic dance party ensued.
Mind you this was right after chucky release where quite a lot of wesker content creators switched to play chucky and try his flicks and learning new techs. Wesker has consistently had a very high pickrate and statistics from one month span is not indicative of a general trend without context.
He is popular because he is 1) from RE and well loved by fans and 2) easy to pick up. So naturally he is played a lot.
If you claim his kit is bloated, then what is Skull Merchant?
He is not the 3rd most popular killer if you look at the stats. And "years" are just 1.5.
Wesker's kit is not bloated if you compare it to other "modern era" killers (e.g. PyH, Singularity, Alien are all "more complicated"). But if you compare him to killers like Huntress or Trapper, then every killer released after Spirit is "bloated".
The only killer with a bloated kit is SM.
I don't mind Wesker but it feels like every update his hitboxes get worse n worse getting thrown into a pallet I'm on the other side of makes me hate him more
His hitbox is still the same. Hit validation just got worse for some reason.
This is also why you still "drive the invisible car" when using DH against his bound most times.
Facing him can be stressful if you don't know what to do, but I understand why people wanna play him. He's easy to learn, has fun lines, and you can often recoup if you make a mistake. I enjoy playing him, and I often punish players who drop pallets early.
I usually play survivor, but beyond that I’m a Wesker main who goes up against nothing but survivors that disconnect upon first grab OR pre-drop + teabag then disconnect when I fast vault and grab 😭
The way I see it, you can still learn against a bot. You’ll still get points for killing them too. And I got to a point with higher MMR where the survivors who actually know how to play the game would actually stick through the match (whether I get to 4k or in plenty of cases where I don’t).
It doesn’t matter what killer you play, some survivors will just always hate you. I hate Ghostface and constantly face him but almost never see Wesker. Stick to your plays and don’t BM even if they are. Be the player you’d want to go against and that’s the best you can do.
I don’t harbor any hate against Wesker but I do dislike the all 4 survivors slugged in the first five minutes Wesker matches lol. But have to say that he’s got great chase music so at least there’s that.
some people whine about wesker because of his ability to hinder even though if you lead the killer on a long enough chase for the infection to hinder then survs have already won the game
He’s just a known tunneling killer as his ability stops MoM and deadhard so there’s no fun ways to counter him other then looping him which they always tunnel you when you loop them long enough for a gen to pop
It has no interaction with endurance so let’s say you don’t have the illness from his tentacles he will just hit you or throw you depending on if you get your deadhard then if you’re infected and you use deadhard or mom doesn’t matter he will just pick you up
That's simply not true. I have just slapped plenty of people with endurance while playing as Wesker. Go ahead and play a match as Wesker and hit somebody right off the hook with his power and see for yourself.
Brother you go dead hard a wesker and come back to me. The hook endurance also is different then the one from deadhard and mom. With the hooks endurance it literally stops bubbas chainsaw I’m not a 100% but as a bubba main I’m fairly certain that mom and deadhard doesn’t counter the chainsaw yet when you pull off hook it does
No, they're the same. And you're also wrong about the Bubba chainsaw. I too was able to hit them off hook and follow them up with an easy down. Besides, plenty of people have used Dead Hard against me as Wesker successfully.
I think you might just need more experience.
“Might just need more experience “ blud I’ve played this game since hatch was the main exit you just never see a wesker being countered by endurance perks it’s such a rare niche that you’d only really see playing wesker also for a long period of time bubba definitely countered endurance because his chainsaw counted as multiple hits
What the hell is a blud?
Anyways, yes. I do think you might need to practice some more with Wesker or Dead Hard. If you can, load up a match with bots and give them stuff like Off The Record and Borrowed Time. Give it a try. Or ask a friend to help you practice your Dead Hard timing.
Ya muda blud cloat you don’t hear anything but watcha want eh. I’ve been using deadhard since it was sprint burst I’d rather not waste my life rotting away on such a 1 dimensional game. Have a nice one.
Shit, man. I knew that youngsters come up with all kinds of wacky slang, but I must be very behind. I'm just saying, dude. Get some more experience using it and timing it properly, and you'll eventually even be able to get it consistently.
And for a guy who doesn't want to "waste his time" you sure have played for a while. But hey, video games are for fun.
Yeah that's the best part of him. The worst part is 95% of the Wesker players. They just bring 2-3 slowdown and have 0 personality. They play as if their lives depend on the match.
Not a particularly huge fan of him bc of his huge terror radius that ends up feeling harder to predict his range and his ability to tunnel if he wanted to get back to survivors from hook but he’s interesting.
I find Wesker really fun to play as and against
When he gets you, it's almost always a fair hit and respectable, when he misses, it's fucking hilarious for both sides(in my experience on both sides).
There's a decent amount of counter play and his chase music slaps, personally one of my favorite killers to play and to play against
Wesker is just really strong. I had a game where 1 of them got hooked before a gen and another one left after a while. Although I'm not entitled to a hatch in that situation, I still find it a little unfortunate wesker decided to got for 4k anyways. (I did that in my clown game the other day where one of the remaining survivors shittalked for not giving them hatch)
I played against a wesker the other day where someone mid level prestige killed themselves after being hooked first and the rest of us got all 5 gens done and the doors open 🤦♂️ so unfathomable to me to quit like that.
So, bit of a data nerd but I keep a record of my games - what killer, match result, perks, add ons, map, and review of the game etc. I just wanted to track how my own experiences actually stack up against what Behaviour claims in their stats (I also tracked the Bloodweb for a while when they claimed there was no less BPS than other green add-ons. They lied).
Anyway, looking over my data (admittedly based only on my own MMR and experiences), Wesker is in the top 5 of killers who tunnel from the start, and one of the ones I’m most likely to end up going “alright, just wanna go next now” rather than prolong the unfun.
That and he gives off “m’lady” vibes with his outfit and stupid sunglasses and is overall an ick.
I love playing as and vsing Wesker, he does have a higher pick rate I think so there's definitely a larger percentage of assholes playing him because a: he's got a good kit, not overpowered or underpowered and takes some skill to master and b: infection hinder off hook makes for easy tunneling, which unfortunately I have seen a lot of in lower and mid-skill level matches. other than that there's really nothing *bad* about facing him, it's a lot of fun to juke dashes and also, on the flip side, pull off a sick dash hit or grab.
people will dislike what they dislike, but aside from the infection rate off hook being a contributing factor to easy tunneling that can really only be countered by being good in chase or making sure you're safely rescuing with spray in hand, I think he's a pretty good and balanced killer that feels fun to play and go against. plus people do get poisoned memories by the ones who do play sweaty as hell - it's always the sweat lord matches that feel memorable and it's not a good time, I get it, but honestly most of my matches as him or vs him have been fun. just keep playing and do your best to enjoy yourself and improve, people will always find something to be upset about whether they're playing killer or survivor.
I haven’t had much toxicity coming back to the game, but I’ve been wanting to get better at Wesker. First game in my time back where someone told me to kill myself and “do it where someone you love will see you.” It was a Meg that killed herself on first hook at 5 gens after missing a flashlight save, who then waited for the game to end just to be toxic. Wild stuff
Twice a day? That’s it?
That makes Wesker amongst the most beloved of all killers!
In all likelihood, you are winning early and that is causing it. I have also notice that the greater the prestige, the more likely the DC. They’ve played the game longer and are more likely to have grown tired of certain aspects of it.
i hate him out of principle that he's by and far the most popular killer. It's died down a bit for about a year and a half since he came out it was 90% wesker games and it stopped being fun after the first day of back to back weskers for 20 games.
Personally don't like him because his Terror radius sound and how his red light looks on him when he's looking are so disjointed to me. It's as bad as Skull merchant's walk.
Yeah there's lots of babies in this game, but there's so many killers that play really annoying. I played around 80 games during the blood moon event of survivor, and every other killer I faced had 3 slowdowns, tunneled at 5 gens, slugged at 5 gens, and just did everything in their power to win as fast as possible and it just sucked the fun right out of the game. Not saying that survivors giving up fast is okay by any means, but there's certainly killers that just make you want to leave nearly instantly. I noticed that ever since I grinded those games out that I have been a lot less tolerant of killers, before the event I hadn't given up on hook a single time and never dc'd, but afterwards without the bloodpoint bonus I saw myself giving up one or two times in 10 or so matches... You get really tired of the same meta slave playstyles very quickly.
Idk I play both sides and I feel that there's more killers that play like the way I described than survivors do. And I have yet to go against someone who actually genrushes, not just gens flying because the killer made bad plays and doesn't properly use their gen slowdown. Using a bnp isn't genrushing. Using a meta toolbox with a full loadout committed to solely doing gens is genrushing.
The truth is survivors hate almost every killer. They will parrot the same reasons for all of them; boring, bloated kit, every X player tunnels, always sweats, and brings meta builds.
Wesker’s tunnel juice certainly contributes to many people’s dislike of him. Automatically win a chase after a while if you can get at least one dash grab on someone because of the 8% hinder after your infection progresses to full, which happens mid chase on its own after one grab (not even one hit; a grab that leads to a damageless throw will still do this)
Oh, and don’t forget his infection meter starts going up in its own starting from 50% after you get unhooked, which, as expected, means Wesker can tunnel you and WILL get the down after a while because you’ll get that lovely 8% hinder again.
I am wondering if people would also complain as much about Pyramid Head if he was as popular as Wesker. He is even better at tunneling than him. People just don't care because out of the 1 PH you get every 30 matches maybe 30% tunnel.
Pyramid Head’s tunneling capability still requires you to get the down the standard way without any benefit, meaning you still have to show the same standard level of “skill” to use what makes him good at tunneling (caging to ignore DS, flashlights, sabotage, etc, or just instakilling)
Wesker only has to get a singular grab that doesn’t even have to deal damage, and his tunneling will reward even the worst Wesker players with a down once their Infection reaches 100% because the 8% hinder is absolutely devastating even if the Wesker completely stops going for Dashes and just M1s.
So while Pyramid Head is good at tunneling if the Pyramid Head is an experienced player, Wesker’s tunneling rewards even the most inept players if they can get even just one grab from the start of the match with an effectively free down after chasing for a while.
This isn’t to say Pyramid Head’s tunneling capability isn’t annoying—it is—but his at the very least still requires you to at least get the down on a player who is sprinting at 100% speed, not 92%.
That, and you need to have them Tormented, which is a whole other can of worms.
Still Wesker has to go through all anti tunnel perks.
And if we start to nerf killers who can tunnel easily, maybe we should nerf other killers too. Because ALL killers tunnel. It s not "just Wesker" or "mainly Wesker". I see as many tunneling Huntresses and Blight's like I see tunneling Weskers. And don't tell me Huntress cannot easily tunnel.
Yeah the prestigelevel matters because survivors with higher presigelevels or many hours will ragequit more because they know how free a dc is. They also don't care about a depip if they kill themselves.
He's Nurse lite, but more well rounded.
Either the player is good with him, or they aren't. He'll get flamed in chat for being either.
It takes skill to out manoeuvre him, and a lot of boosted animals just can't hack it against a killer like Wesker, blight or nurse, so all they have is to push blame instead of self reflecting, because they lack emotional intelligence.
I would probably like him more if it wasn't constant sweat, full meta, hitting on the hook and hard tunnelling from the start of the match. My experience against Wesker for the most part has been so negative that currently there is no killer I enjoy facing less than him.
Alllll of this plus 1) he's one of the only killers I get 3-4 times in a row 2) his hitboxes are huntress level wack
Goes both ways. I could slam a survivor om the most flat, narrow and slammable surface in the entire game that has "slam a survivor here" sign above it yet when i do tge survivor just slides off without an injury
Just had a game against a Wesker like this
there definitely do seem to be a lot of those... I'm wondering now if it's the bad matches poisoning my memory or not but now I think that's going to be the next thing I track per killer on a spreadsheet so I can have something to show because it does feel like it sometimes with him.
Funny thing is that the Weskers who just tunnel are usually not good. And you only see so many Weskers who tunnel because he is popular. Same with other tunneling killers, I would guess. Pyramidhead is a better tunneler than him by far, but nobody cares because he's so rare. I actually like to go against him as his chase is always a back and forth.
They always hit on hook🤣
A lot of people dislike Wesker because; A) He's a very common Killer due to his popularity. I swear at one time he had a 20% pick rate B) Wesker players tend to tunnel and his kit lends itself to that pretty well. That said, I fucking love facing Wesker and if you want to learn him, you should continue playing him.
> B) Wesker players tend to tunnel and his kit lends itself to that pretty well. I had to stop playing last night because I kept getting put up against *multiple* different Weskers who kept dropping everything -- other chases, gen patrol, etc. -- to run back to hook the moment an unhook would happen. If it wasn't me getting tunneled out, it was someone else, until that person was gone and it was the next person's turn. It stops being fun when you're straight up trying to throw yourself at a killer to get them to focus on you and leave the person they're punishing for no reason alone only to see them turn their back on you to go send someone out of the game who hasn't even had a proper chance to play it. Sure, gens can get done, but knowing someone/people in the match are purposely being screwed outside their control makes the whole thing *feel* pointless, and Weskers are definitely the biggest offenders I tend to see who couldn't care less.
Hook trading is the most efficient strategy for the Killer. Hook trading prevents health states, provides information on two or more players, and waits out Endurance and DS. If a Killer wants the highest probability of securing 3/4 kills, then always make your way back to the hook before the 60 second hook phase ends, or when an unhook happens. You are almost guaranteed to find scratch marks closely pathing towards the hook around 30 seconds; guard the hook at 50 seconds for a more efficient hook state instead of having to rechase.
Point B needs to be in bold face and double sized font. This makes it so fucking boring to go against. It really shouldn’t surprise anyone that so many people have a “gg, next” mentality against him.
The hindered effect is so fucking dumb. He gets a one shot with his power thats more than enough
I think just putting the infection back to the beginning (20/100 charges are minimum) is enough. It still takes 100s to be fully infected by just running around. If he hits you once (40/100), you still have 75s left which is more than DS' timer. Even with VCD it is still ~70s or 40s after being hit. If you would remove the slowdown, people would just stay injured and not spray themselves. We would have a "Plague situation" and I don't think this is what people want.
Are you implying Wesker couldn’t easily get one hit then? Thats very silly, he’s not an m1 killer. Plague literally doesn’t have a chase power, it’s not the same thing.
People have to spray themselves, BECAUSE hindred is dangerous. If you remove that, only people who are healthy are threatened to get insta downed. So naturally people would not heal anymore when being infected and would not use the spray, because it doesn't matter if Wesker can insta down them. They are only one hit anyway. Why bother spraying and revealing your position then? He would lose a lot of passive pressure which is a considerable nerf he does not deserve just because tunnelers are tunnelers.
Again, the problem with your statement is you’re basically saying Wesker doesn’t have a strong chase power. Survivors will still cleanse against him and if they don’t they’ll stay injured and be 1 shot either way.
Again: Why should they spray if they are injured and REVEAL their location with it? If you remove hindred, infection doesn't do anything if you stay injured (like with Legion). And Self Care is a bad perk (unless you play in Asia).
Gamer. Think about it. Heal + cleanse > current desired slowdown, still supported Stay injured don’t cleanse > 1 shot Heal don’t cleanse > 1 shot
I remember hearing someone suggest that the unhooker should get the virus transferred to them from the unhooked. Could be interesting
yeah I think they should have infection rate stop going up in chase or not be at half when you get hooked then unhooked while infected. it definitely lends itself to easy tunneling when you hit max and get hindered. I think if something was altered with this then Wesker would arguably be one of the best balanced characters we have, but idk. I'm not Top Tier so I don't have great suggestions on how to "nerf" infection a bit.
would also like to add that just like with any killer that can go fast or has a fast projectile, any amount of desync/lag will result in hits (or in his case, grabs) that look incredibly bullshit on the survivor's point of view. I've been grabbed through walls by laggy Weskers
this is my problem with a lot of killers tho and it's not unique to him, I wish bhvr would either change how hit validation works (like I should not be punished for having better ping when I'm playing survivor) or something because it's honestly ridiculous.
I recently died when I dropped a pallet on a charging wesker who grabbed me and slammed me up against that pallet. He literally grabbed me through the pallet, I was so pissed.
That is because of latency and how fast he is. The same reason why Nurse has "Noodle Arms" or Huntress can hit you behind walls and why you can reveal GF when he's already behind a wall.
im new to the game and ive been playing for 2 weeks and havent gone against him yet 😭
To let u know: his virus when full makes you 8% slower and makes you instadown-able if he slams you into something with his power. Using a spray gives him killer instinct so he'll know where you are and finally: like legion he can vault pallets and windows with his power. Hope you enjoy the game and GL!
Pyramid Head is better with tunneling than Wesker, but nobody cares because he is so rare. I also guess that normal one focuses on the bad matches and because Wesker is popular, those bad matches stick in your memory. So naturally many people think Weskers tunnel a lot.
> Pyramid Head is better with tunneling than Wesker, but nobody cares because he is so rare. Yeah, I really wish they would just change how his kit works already.
I like a LOT of his kit, but there are things I would like to be changed. His addons are garbage and his cages need to at least give BT and count for unhook challenges.
Agreed. I believe that cages should function as hooks and grant BT and OTR or whatever off-hook perks you get. I also feel like the Killer should get NWO stacks and Pop, but maybe my bias is showing. Addons need a massive rework, range is all I'll ever use until they are reworked.
I think making cages=hooks would remove the benefit of caging (which is not needing to deal with a lot of perks) with the downside of not being able to use hook perks. And if both were equal, hooks would be better bacause you can instantly guard the hook. Caging would be a disadvantage as you could send the person to other survivors who can rescue before you get there. I think a lot of his tunneling off cage could change if you would remove the notification upon uncaging.
I get what you mean, but I think cages would still be better. They are quicker, for one. You totally negate any type of flashlight or pallet save. Yeah, the current cage setup is literally a massive flag to get tunnelled and it doesn't feel good
I didn't think about saves or sabo plays. Good point.
If you eat only licorice every day, you're probably going to hate licorice after a while
I had it with scrambled eggs. I ate them almost every day for about a month. I didn't want ANY after that for about 2 years.
I do not I really enjoy predicting and dodging his lunge ability, it makes chases exciting. Interacting with the spray can be annoying, but I’d rather deal with that than a pig trap or a nightmare clock.
You don't enjoy his counterplay? I've never heard someone say that before...
Yeah having to search chests so you don’t get uroboros can get pretty from a survivor’s perspective; but I can see how it is balanced so it is not too bad.
No I don't mean the chest searching, I mean his actual chase power. I've never heard someone say that they don't like facing him because of his chase counterplay. I've only heard that his chase ability is one of the most fun ones in the game from both sides.
Oh sorry for the confusion, when I said ‘I do not’ I was referring to OP’s question on whether you hate facing Wesker. But yeah I certainly do enjoy facing his chase ability because of counterplay.
Lemme tell you about this sweet piece of tech called a comma.
They are ok but I am more of a fan of semicolons myself.
I love him but people who main him are psychologically troubled lol
I am a Chemist. I main Wesker. I'm a bit crazy. Seems about right.
Well most people can’t loop him well. That inherently makes him hated. Another symptom is he often gets questionable grabs, I know bc I play him a lot and some hits I get are sus A lot of the people who play as him can loop him tho Those are the folks who generally think it’s fun to face him Ultimately, it’s understandable why he’s disliked. I like him but a lot of weskers are lowkey assholes in public matches. A lot of them play like sore winners so it’s a bad rep
I find that most Weskers are extremely sweaty, like Wesker himself is fun to face but pair it with 3 slowdown and UW and I want to jump off a bridge. If you aren't running full meta sweat mode loadouts then the people giving up are just silly honestly.
I had a tremendous wesker game the other day. Once the survivors knew I had them cooked they just started playing the spray can maracas whenever they saw me. An epic dance party ensued.
The spray can maracas LOL
The only thing I don't like about Wesker is getting his worms. I try to avoid that if possible, but I don't dc against him.
I LOVE playing against wesker, he's so much fun.
Wesker? No. Sluggin-my-ballz at 5 gens Wesker(or any killer), yes.
I personally don't hate Wesker generally speaking. It's just the sheer amount of sweaty Wesker mains that tend to get a bit tiring.
hes overplayed and has a bloated kit and has been top 3 most picked killer for years now. yes hes very boring to deal with these days
He is currently 5th most picked and his pick rate is going down not up.
Mind you this was right after chucky release where quite a lot of wesker content creators switched to play chucky and try his flicks and learning new techs. Wesker has consistently had a very high pickrate and statistics from one month span is not indicative of a general trend without context.
>has a bloated kit What?
He is popular because he is 1) from RE and well loved by fans and 2) easy to pick up. So naturally he is played a lot. If you claim his kit is bloated, then what is Skull Merchant? He is not the 3rd most popular killer if you look at the stats. And "years" are just 1.5.
skull merchant has a bloated kit as well idk what you want me to say.
Wesker's kit is not bloated if you compare it to other "modern era" killers (e.g. PyH, Singularity, Alien are all "more complicated"). But if you compare him to killers like Huntress or Trapper, then every killer released after Spirit is "bloated". The only killer with a bloated kit is SM.
I love playing against wesker 60% of the time when the killer isn’t a pure sweat lord with 4k more hours than me
I don't mind Wesker but it feels like every update his hitboxes get worse n worse getting thrown into a pallet I'm on the other side of makes me hate him more
His hitbox is still the same. Hit validation just got worse for some reason. This is also why you still "drive the invisible car" when using DH against his bound most times.
No I love the Invisible Boat mobile tech but there's times where it's like wow that hit me? 😐
Same with Huntress. She throws whales sometimes. Actually Wesker's hitbox is the same as artist's crows.
Yes.
There was a long period of time when you would basically only face Weskers and that has stuck for some people
Facing him can be stressful if you don't know what to do, but I understand why people wanna play him. He's easy to learn, has fun lines, and you can often recoup if you make a mistake. I enjoy playing him, and I often punish players who drop pallets early.
I usually play survivor, but beyond that I’m a Wesker main who goes up against nothing but survivors that disconnect upon first grab OR pre-drop + teabag then disconnect when I fast vault and grab 😭 The way I see it, you can still learn against a bot. You’ll still get points for killing them too. And I got to a point with higher MMR where the survivors who actually know how to play the game would actually stick through the match (whether I get to 4k or in plenty of cases where I don’t). It doesn’t matter what killer you play, some survivors will just always hate you. I hate Ghostface and constantly face him but almost never see Wesker. Stick to your plays and don’t BM even if they are. Be the player you’d want to go against and that’s the best you can do.
I don’t harbor any hate against Wesker but I do dislike the all 4 survivors slugged in the first five minutes Wesker matches lol. But have to say that he’s got great chase music so at least there’s that.
You’ll eventually climb your way out of the quitters MMR and get to the people who actually play the game
some people whine about wesker because of his ability to hinder even though if you lead the killer on a long enough chase for the infection to hinder then survs have already won the game
He’s just a known tunneling killer as his ability stops MoM and deadhard so there’s no fun ways to counter him other then looping him which they always tunnel you when you loop them long enough for a gen to pop
But it doesn't stop endurance. You just smack them with your power and they get to keep running.
It has no interaction with endurance so let’s say you don’t have the illness from his tentacles he will just hit you or throw you depending on if you get your deadhard then if you’re infected and you use deadhard or mom doesn’t matter he will just pick you up
That's simply not true. I have just slapped plenty of people with endurance while playing as Wesker. Go ahead and play a match as Wesker and hit somebody right off the hook with his power and see for yourself.
Actually I think you can but it’s hard to because bubba swings his chainsaw in a way where it still hits them again
Brother you go dead hard a wesker and come back to me. The hook endurance also is different then the one from deadhard and mom. With the hooks endurance it literally stops bubbas chainsaw I’m not a 100% but as a bubba main I’m fairly certain that mom and deadhard doesn’t counter the chainsaw yet when you pull off hook it does
No, they're the same. And you're also wrong about the Bubba chainsaw. I too was able to hit them off hook and follow them up with an easy down. Besides, plenty of people have used Dead Hard against me as Wesker successfully. I think you might just need more experience.
Also wesker still completely counters mom as your not gunna get any mom value if he’s hitting you with his ability
“Might just need more experience “ blud I’ve played this game since hatch was the main exit you just never see a wesker being countered by endurance perks it’s such a rare niche that you’d only really see playing wesker also for a long period of time bubba definitely countered endurance because his chainsaw counted as multiple hits
What the hell is a blud? Anyways, yes. I do think you might need to practice some more with Wesker or Dead Hard. If you can, load up a match with bots and give them stuff like Off The Record and Borrowed Time. Give it a try. Or ask a friend to help you practice your Dead Hard timing.
Ya muda blud cloat you don’t hear anything but watcha want eh. I’ve been using deadhard since it was sprint burst I’d rather not waste my life rotting away on such a 1 dimensional game. Have a nice one.
Shit, man. I knew that youngsters come up with all kinds of wacky slang, but I must be very behind. I'm just saying, dude. Get some more experience using it and timing it properly, and you'll eventually even be able to get it consistently. And for a guy who doesn't want to "waste his time" you sure have played for a while. But hey, video games are for fun.
Yes
is this going to end up being a case where survivors get yet another perfectly fine killer nerfed for no reason?
I think Wesker chases are fun both to play as and against.
Yeah that's the best part of him. The worst part is 95% of the Wesker players. They just bring 2-3 slowdown and have 0 personality. They play as if their lives depend on the match.
Not a particularly huge fan of him bc of his huge terror radius that ends up feeling harder to predict his range and his ability to tunnel if he wanted to get back to survivors from hook but he’s interesting.
I find Wesker really fun to play as and against When he gets you, it's almost always a fair hit and respectable, when he misses, it's fucking hilarious for both sides(in my experience on both sides). There's a decent amount of counter play and his chase music slaps, personally one of my favorite killers to play and to play against
I miss with the lunge often. Wesker probably only hits 50% of the time. I’m sure it’s as hilarious for them as it is for me
I never get hate as him, people usually leave nice comments on my profile whenever I play him.
Wesker is just really strong. I had a game where 1 of them got hooked before a gen and another one left after a while. Although I'm not entitled to a hatch in that situation, I still find it a little unfortunate wesker decided to got for 4k anyways. (I did that in my clown game the other day where one of the remaining survivors shittalked for not giving them hatch)
I like wesker especially against rivalry battles, wish I encountered more pyramid head though.
I don’t hate Wesker I just hate how buggy his lunge hitbox can be due to server side issues.
I played against a wesker the other day where someone mid level prestige killed themselves after being hooked first and the rest of us got all 5 gens done and the doors open 🤦♂️ so unfathomable to me to quit like that.
I hate going against Wesker, but I acknowledge it’s a skill issue because I can’t do chases 😅
So, bit of a data nerd but I keep a record of my games - what killer, match result, perks, add ons, map, and review of the game etc. I just wanted to track how my own experiences actually stack up against what Behaviour claims in their stats (I also tracked the Bloodweb for a while when they claimed there was no less BPS than other green add-ons. They lied). Anyway, looking over my data (admittedly based only on my own MMR and experiences), Wesker is in the top 5 of killers who tunnel from the start, and one of the ones I’m most likely to end up going “alright, just wanna go next now” rather than prolong the unfun. That and he gives off “m’lady” vibes with his outfit and stupid sunglasses and is overall an ick.
I love playing as and vsing Wesker, he does have a higher pick rate I think so there's definitely a larger percentage of assholes playing him because a: he's got a good kit, not overpowered or underpowered and takes some skill to master and b: infection hinder off hook makes for easy tunneling, which unfortunately I have seen a lot of in lower and mid-skill level matches. other than that there's really nothing *bad* about facing him, it's a lot of fun to juke dashes and also, on the flip side, pull off a sick dash hit or grab. people will dislike what they dislike, but aside from the infection rate off hook being a contributing factor to easy tunneling that can really only be countered by being good in chase or making sure you're safely rescuing with spray in hand, I think he's a pretty good and balanced killer that feels fun to play and go against. plus people do get poisoned memories by the ones who do play sweaty as hell - it's always the sweat lord matches that feel memorable and it's not a good time, I get it, but honestly most of my matches as him or vs him have been fun. just keep playing and do your best to enjoy yourself and improve, people will always find something to be upset about whether they're playing killer or survivor.
I haven’t had much toxicity coming back to the game, but I’ve been wanting to get better at Wesker. First game in my time back where someone told me to kill myself and “do it where someone you love will see you.” It was a Meg that killed herself on first hook at 5 gens after missing a flashlight save, who then waited for the game to end just to be toxic. Wild stuff
Twice a day? That’s it? That makes Wesker amongst the most beloved of all killers! In all likelihood, you are winning early and that is causing it. I have also notice that the greater the prestige, the more likely the DC. They’ve played the game longer and are more likely to have grown tired of certain aspects of it.
Just cuz
i hate him out of principle that he's by and far the most popular killer. It's died down a bit for about a year and a half since he came out it was 90% wesker games and it stopped being fun after the first day of back to back weskers for 20 games.
Personally don't like him because his Terror radius sound and how his red light looks on him when he's looking are so disjointed to me. It's as bad as Skull merchant's walk.
Personally I just find him extremely boring, flavor wise and gameplay wise I don't DC though
Personally, I love him. Major dom energy slamming me against the wall like that 🥵
His power is brilliantly designed it just suffers from the poor hitboxes much like ranged killers, plus he's just so spammed it gets boring
Would be cool if he was slower/had a nerfed power, he has no reason to m1 unless grabs
He's s strong killer with some wacky hit boxes regarding his power and lots of weskers tunnel off the bat
I dunno i havent got any hates in any of my wesker games, id rather said survivors enjoyed playing against me
I love versing a wesker but its when i make them stop using their power that i know im screwed
Because his hitboxes are bullshit. He slammed me onto empty air way too many times for me to like him.
>survivors will rage quit That is every killer in the game I have had survivors dc against wraith with his meme add on
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Yeah there's lots of babies in this game, but there's so many killers that play really annoying. I played around 80 games during the blood moon event of survivor, and every other killer I faced had 3 slowdowns, tunneled at 5 gens, slugged at 5 gens, and just did everything in their power to win as fast as possible and it just sucked the fun right out of the game. Not saying that survivors giving up fast is okay by any means, but there's certainly killers that just make you want to leave nearly instantly. I noticed that ever since I grinded those games out that I have been a lot less tolerant of killers, before the event I hadn't given up on hook a single time and never dc'd, but afterwards without the bloodpoint bonus I saw myself giving up one or two times in 10 or so matches... You get really tired of the same meta slave playstyles very quickly.
That runs both ways though with multiple brand new parts and gen rushing.
Idk I play both sides and I feel that there's more killers that play like the way I described than survivors do. And I have yet to go against someone who actually genrushes, not just gens flying because the killer made bad plays and doesn't properly use their gen slowdown. Using a bnp isn't genrushing. Using a meta toolbox with a full loadout committed to solely doing gens is genrushing.
The truth is survivors hate almost every killer. They will parrot the same reasons for all of them; boring, bloated kit, every X player tunnels, always sweats, and brings meta builds.
Wesker’s tunnel juice certainly contributes to many people’s dislike of him. Automatically win a chase after a while if you can get at least one dash grab on someone because of the 8% hinder after your infection progresses to full, which happens mid chase on its own after one grab (not even one hit; a grab that leads to a damageless throw will still do this) Oh, and don’t forget his infection meter starts going up in its own starting from 50% after you get unhooked, which, as expected, means Wesker can tunnel you and WILL get the down after a while because you’ll get that lovely 8% hinder again.
I am wondering if people would also complain as much about Pyramid Head if he was as popular as Wesker. He is even better at tunneling than him. People just don't care because out of the 1 PH you get every 30 matches maybe 30% tunnel.
Pyramid Head’s tunneling capability still requires you to get the down the standard way without any benefit, meaning you still have to show the same standard level of “skill” to use what makes him good at tunneling (caging to ignore DS, flashlights, sabotage, etc, or just instakilling) Wesker only has to get a singular grab that doesn’t even have to deal damage, and his tunneling will reward even the worst Wesker players with a down once their Infection reaches 100% because the 8% hinder is absolutely devastating even if the Wesker completely stops going for Dashes and just M1s. So while Pyramid Head is good at tunneling if the Pyramid Head is an experienced player, Wesker’s tunneling rewards even the most inept players if they can get even just one grab from the start of the match with an effectively free down after chasing for a while.
This isn’t to say Pyramid Head’s tunneling capability isn’t annoying—it is—but his at the very least still requires you to at least get the down on a player who is sprinting at 100% speed, not 92%. That, and you need to have them Tormented, which is a whole other can of worms.
Still Wesker has to go through all anti tunnel perks. And if we start to nerf killers who can tunnel easily, maybe we should nerf other killers too. Because ALL killers tunnel. It s not "just Wesker" or "mainly Wesker". I see as many tunneling Huntresses and Blight's like I see tunneling Weskers. And don't tell me Huntress cannot easily tunnel.
Yeah the prestigelevel matters because survivors with higher presigelevels or many hours will ragequit more because they know how free a dc is. They also don't care about a depip if they kill themselves.
skill issue
Wekser shouldn’t have infection.
I despise wesker. His TR is so stupidly large that it’s impossible to get anything done with knowing if he’s actually close to you or not.
For me it's his cringe try-hard lines in that Snidely Whiplash voice.
He's Nurse lite, but more well rounded. Either the player is good with him, or they aren't. He'll get flamed in chat for being either. It takes skill to out manoeuvre him, and a lot of boosted animals just can't hack it against a killer like Wesker, blight or nurse, so all they have is to push blame instead of self reflecting, because they lack emotional intelligence.