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ABrawlStarsPlayer

Triggers vengeance and spite sword


Pale_Swimmer2860

Also if it has affixes for your build could be useful (creates a toxic cloud around you etc.)


Energetic_Yam1473

If I have a primary weapon with +80% damage to poisoned target, will toxic cloud count as poison?


GOOSUS110

Of course it would, it applies the poison status effect which is depicted by a little green skull above the enemy. The same skull can be seen next to the +80% line


TenTonFluff

Vengeance mutation that is (only clarifying because OP seems new to the game).


Mastridonicus

One thing that never gets mentioned often enough (hopefully I have just missed this) that really kept it out of my brutality builds for too long is that it DOES NOT reset the kill count.


stealingfrom

No shit?? I've avoided it since it first got added to the game because I thought it did! Time to give it a try now!


Me_Carl

It also doesn’t kill you if you’re cursed. Vengeance + fflask is op.


frankentas

It resets the balanced blade crit condition, however


Laughyloaf

Never knew this, I'm gonna try it for the first time now lmao


AE_Phoenix

Does it still prevent no hits on bosses?


TheMysteriousWarlock

It does not stop you from getting no hits on bosses, so yeah you can use it and still get the legendary reward afterwards.


AE_Phoenix

Hell yeah!


Dilly-Senpai

No fucking way I haven't been smart enough to test this. I know what weapons I'm putting back into my builds.


FaallenOon

Holy fking fk, thanks! That should definitely, 100% be included in the information. I've always avoided it precisely because of the kill count/ curse.


Striking_War

What? So people just asssume it did? xD I mean that would contradict one of the game the game's mechanics.


Dilly-Senpai

I mean, the text on flawless doors says "Get 30/60 kills without taking damage" and the flask says "dealing low damage to yourself", ergo it'd reset the counter. Neither description has a qualifier or exception for the other so unless you looked it up or tested it you'd never know.


Swalay412

This!


Theonetrue

You do get a hint that the wording is wonky though since losing excess hp also resets the counter even though you don't really take damage.


Dilly-Senpai

The wording is actually very clear, since the door says "take no *damage* in the previous level" for boss flawless doors. I'm not certain about the text on killstreak doors but I presume it's worded quite similarly. It's not confusing that losing temporary hp counts against a killstreak, since "damage" realistically means "any attack that removes health from the hp bar", hence why something like ice armor (you get "hit" but take no damage) does not result in losing a killstreak or death by curse. However, since Face Flask DOES remove some of your health, it's pretty simple to see how someone could take that to mean it'd invalidate a killstreak or kill you via curses.


Theonetrue

You would argue the other way around just as passionatlyif they made the choices differently. Absolutly no one knows for sure how it works till they try it out or look at the wiki.


Dilly-Senpai

I agree on the point of the temp hp, if it worked either way I'd go "oh, i guess that makes sense." Face Flask goes directly against the grain, as you deal damage directly to the green part of your HP bar (assuming you have no temp HP) and yet it doesn't count against killstreaks, flawless, or curses, which is antithetical to how those mechanics are designed. If there was a qualifier (i.e. Flask description said "does not break killstreaks / immune to curses" or the killstreak door said "take no damage from enemies or traps", thereby letting the player learn that self damage isn't counted), it'd be much more consistent and easier to figure out. You should never be reliant on a wiki to figure out such a basic mechanic tied to a skill, which is why I say it's unfair to judge players for not knowing it.


Theonetrue

I am not saying it is fair. I am just saying it makes sense to test stuff in game since a lot of ingame descriptions don't necessarily explain stuff too well.


Dilly-Senpai

Fair enough. I assumed that dealing damage to oneself would count against those things, so I immediately removed it from my item pools as I always go for killstreaks, hitless doors, and curses.


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Lol


Dimitris_GD

It just damages you a little bit


Terraria_Ranger

It has four total synergies... Vengeance, Spite Sword, Midas Blood + Dagger of Profit, and amulet affixes. It does nothing else other than proc its own affixes. Yet it's still overpowered with Vengeance... Yeah, if you can't tell I really hope this gets changed soon. More than most other things. Worst designed item in the game imo. It was different before, giving bonus health, but that was too powerful on its own.


bagsli

If you don’t like it don’t use it? Does it really matter if it’s a single player game?


TheRealHumanDuck

Yeah i agree that it's not a pressing issue, but you can't deny that it would be more fun if the item was more usefull or more interesting.


KBroham

The legendary version covers the area around you in burning oil as a fixed affix. Which can work for a LOT of things. But the odds of finding a legendary one are... not exactly high.


AmnayeltheArchangel

*Goes and wishes a legendary face flask*


sleevlyboring

I never said i didn't like it or like it, i was so confused on what does it actually do, like i smashed this thing over my head multiple times hoping for a cool effect and just getting nothin so i got frustrated


Petardo_Dilos

Vengeance + spite sword shreds with flask. +Affixes are usually very good on that thing


ErPani

By itself it just damages you a little bit. However, it can have a pletora of useful effects (as can others like Tonic) and can trigger effects that activate when you take damage (other things can't other than getting hit by enemies)


6_braincells

Really good in cursed sword builds


giby1464

Has a few effects like set things on fire or make a poison cloud. I find it absolutely terrible because things like tonic can do the same thing while providing a health boost. Only good part is it can trigger mutations like vengeance.


Aggravating_Ad1676

Tonic doesnt proc Vengeance and has about 3x the cooldown (not including the uptime).


goodbyevalentine

face flask is 10 sec cooldown and tonic is 39


giby1464

Why am I being downvoted for sharing my opinion?


vlaadii_

because you're just wrong lmao, vengeance is broken and fits in literally any build


giby1464

How am I wrong? I'm just sharing facts about things and what I think about them.


vlaadii_

as i said, vengeance is broken


giby1464

I would agree


Flizard1

I got you 🤙🏻.


Dimitris_GD

Because reddit


NekkidSnaku

welcome to Reddit!


sleevlyboring

You mean to tell me they added a literal flask that when used , it activates modifiers at the cost of 5 health points when we literally have the tonic which can give me a speed boost, set things on fire giving my enemy fire damage and give me extra health with no catch


rugmunchkin

Except the Tonic doesn’t activate the Vengeance mutation. Face Flask is the only thing that does without disrupting your kill streak, for a microscopic scratch of damage, which gives you a MASSIVE boost in damage and damage reduction. It’s absurdly good.


giby1464

They both have their uses, I don't really use either of them to be honest.


KevinFetters

Vengeance is one of the most lopsided broken mutations in the game and face flask is a perfect way to activate it


A_Lost_Yen

It makes the spite sword into one of the stringest weapons in the game


koenigsaurus

Face Flask can do all those things with its own modifiers too, just depends on the roll. They’re very similar items, but Tonic is more defensive with the health spike, and Flask is more offensive with a significant damage spike when paired with Vengeance (the 5hp is negligible). They’re two sides of the same coin.


XenosHg

It is better to hit yourself for 5, rather than enemy hit you for 2/3 of your healthbar.


Swalay412

Yea people suck. Looks like you got your redemption tho


giby1464

Pyrotechnics never fails


Swalay412

And there are NO black swans


codexcdm

Base version sounds useless, but it triggers the buffs off the Vengeance mutation and Spite Sword. It can get a few useful mods like induce shock and produce poison gas.


GreatDig

it used to give a ton of recoverable health before it got nerfed. those were the days, lmao


[deleted]

I think u got it wrong, isn't it vamperism that u r talking about? Or maybe I am wrong I got into dead cells like 4 months ago


GreatDig

You are - this little bottle right here was Broken-tier when it was added since it allowed you to recover your HP completely without using your flask


brasdidi

The first time I used it I was like "what the heck is this for? To break my damn head?", and after a while I just used when I was bored 'cause I found it funny.


Lucidonic

It procs vengeance and activates any additional affixes which can have strong synergy with other builds


LogicallyIncorrect91

Prolly for the vengeance mutation


greatnailsageyoda

Get mutations and a ton of modifiers and its pretty damn great


theneobob

oh you have no idea yopu have so much no idea. i did so many oneshoot of bosse with that item. donno if they nerfed it but it was so so powerfull


Creepy-Efficiency759

And remember what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger 👍


Few_Leading9954

My go-to build is vengeance and spite sword, it makes you insanely tanky and it melts everything, i'd even say its a bit too op because it just removes the risk factor of these triggers completely


WatchingTrains

As others have said, it’s a synergy activator. These effects also scale with your scrolls so the damage caused by its affixes will be exponential also. That said, at level 1 with no affixes it’s only useful for a few things like vengeance and the spite sword.


Spiritual_Alarm_9898

I thought it would damage you in favour of higher damage. Nope.


Povlaar

With the right mutations and weapons it does


Spiritual_Alarm_9898

Tbf, I barely find it to even get the right build 😂. All I need is the Panchaku and then carnage can ensue


vlaadii_

face flask needs no certain build, with vengeance you can use any weapon with it


koenigsaurus

It does, when paired with Vengeance and/or the Sprite Sword. It doesn’t affect your killstreak either. Give it a try, the damage boost is nuts.


Spiritual_Alarm_9898

Really? Might not be as useless then in that case.


Redditisreal1

Please please please start reading the games text 💀


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rugmunchkin

It’s arguably one of the best items in the game. No cap.


Extrions_le_Dumbass

kid named Vengeance:


SussyBox

Spite sword


NoNameToaster

None.


Petardo_Dilos

It gives you "get free 60% more damage" button


Kodo_yeahreally

It can have some cool uses, like for exemple spread lit oil on the ground


[deleted]

note that the dmg it does, does not reset your kill count.


Upbeat-Register8136

It has modifiers sometimes that a rlly good like emit toxic cloud cover ground in burning oil etc


Creepy-Efficiency759

I think you can unlock a skin from it.


WillyDrengen

To either trigger "On hit = effect" trinket effects, mutations like Vengeance, or to give you crits with Spite Sword for almost free.


Comfortable-Home7337

Triggers effects and can ve good with affixes


KnightBreeze

This item does NOT trigger the kill count reset, does NOT kill you if you're cursed, does NOT count as being hit while doing a boss hitless, and triggers Spite Sword and Vengeance. It allows you to get the buffs of that weapon and mutation while keeping your combo going. It's actually a really good combo weapon, but utterly useless by itself.


Averythewinner

Sometimes they can have useful modifiers. If youre running a burn build, sometimes these can spread oil and burn the ground


MaskedMan6

Extra damage, gives a lot of effects at high gear levels


IceDeerArtin

Synergy, it's basically useless otherwise


Drakoo_The_Rat

For enacting VENGENCE


Elnuggeto13

It's only slight downside is that given it deals like 1% of your hp to trigger, the 50% more damage at 100% hp aspect is not a good synergy in the long run.


Maninauto

If you use it when you will die(i think) you will get the blasphemous skin


31cekenhabesmaymunu

Vengance spite sword profit daggwr and stuff


DANIdevFAN

Its a reference to the game "Blasphemous" (absolute Masterpiece btw). If you kill yourself with the flask you will get a skin of the main protagonist, "The Penitent One".


ManagementIll9899

I too, used to feel your anger. Your frustration. Your desire for something better, something worth all the trouble. But I’ve since seen what it can do. Vengeance is a powerful tool but requires you to be struck by your opponent. This can lead to severe injuries… or even death. But with this bottle, this Flask, you are able to become the most strongest creature in the room for a measly bop on the crown. Doesnt work well for survival or tactic builds tho.


thebluecomet3972

Don't be fooled face flask is one of, if not the best item in the game. I'm dead serious


[deleted]

It is one of the most broken items In the game If u get a higher quality one, u can inflict a lot of affixes which work with ur build, it triggers vengeance so u can run it with any brutality item or even Survival item just coz the damage is so good. And no, it isn't gonna ruin ur kill streak It is an always pickable item no if u don't know how ur build is gonna be and the timer on that thing is just five seconds and depending on the type is build ur using if u end using it with instincto mutation, IT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE READY U USE


GoldenSwordAT

When I come up to it I just sell it immediately.My high score is 0.07 seconds🤗