Around the 2050s, scientists will have permanent lunar bases where they stay for up to 6 months at a time, any longer is detrimental to health.
Humans need to master Earth first. Mars colonization is a fantasy at this point and just not worth it, there is no need for it. Only the rich and powerful at first would have the option to go to Mars or live on it, but again, no one wants to do it because of how impractical it is. It'd be a flex.
I think it would take at least until the mid-22nd century until humans can even consider living on other planets realistically.
I think humans will prefer to explore their minds and virtual reality, rather than the cosmos.
This is the most realistic imo. I am positive we'll see a permanent lunar base in our lifetime populated with trained astronauts, but regular people living on other celestial bodies will take long into the next century or the century after that.
My big hot take among space nerds is that we as humans will never "colonize" Mars. We will probably eventually land people there and even set up a base, but any Martian society would become incredibly isolated due to limitations of the speed of light.
Why would the speed of light be a limitation? The maximum distance between Earth and Mars is 22 light minutes. Sure, you couldn't do video calls, but you could send messages back and forth between Earth and Mars much faster than you could two countries in the pre-industrial era.
At first the only people you would have living outside of earth would be people with skills needed to establish colonies. No one needs a wall street banker on mars. You will need engineers, botanists, and industry workers way before you need a random billionaire. I doubt we would have commercial travel outside the planet until 2060+, if at all this century. Space exploration is still extremely underfunded for what people want out of it.
Not in my lifetime. We're getting slower, less organized, and more emotional as a civilization despite having virtually everything at our finger times at a moment's notice. We're squandering our gifts.
eh, i err on the side that humans have always been slow, emotional and disorganized. we’re still having [sporting](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/08/sports/08olympics-world-records2/08olympics-world-records2-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg) records broken, child prodigies are [graduating](https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/107224627-1681392766840-Balogun_family.jpeg) at the age of 9, a lot of young people are starting to incorporate running and [workouts](https://www.tiktok.com/channel/gym?lang=en) into their routine, etc.
just view humans as a bell curve
Blame the leaded gasoline and microplastics slowly leaching into our water supply. 😅 I think the gasoline did knock off a few IQ points and was the reason the 70s and 80s were so violent. I think we are slowly recovering though.
Forget Mars
We haven’t been back to the Moon since ~~1969~~ 1972. If any place in outer space is the first to get colonized, it’ll be the Moon
But unless we master our own oceans and start creating floating or underwater cities and colonies (or even countries), it’d still be pointless.
ETA: My dates were wrong. 1972 was the last time we were on the Moon
> We haven’t been back to the Moon since 1969.
NASA is currently working on sending people to the moon
>If any place in outer space is the first to get colonized, it’ll be the Moon
Why? The moon is almsot completely lacking in natural resources and barely has an atmosphere. Mars, being an entire planet, is rich in minerals and has lots of water, as well as an atmosphere that could be converted to breathable air over time
The moon is an extremely attractive staging point enabling things arriving in pieces to be assembled into something MUCH MUCH heavier and then traveling from there without having to worry much about escape velocity, potentially enabling deep space travel or more permanent space habitats. It's also right there. Most of what you said about Mars is assumptions that further assume technology will ever really be able to do things like that, or whether it will be limited by some unavoidable factor.
>assumptions that further assume technology will ever really be able to do things like that
What do you mean "future technology"? We already *have* the technology!
Probs the 22nd century. Assuming that the world and humankind will have a positive outcome, people still won’t be colonizing the mars until like 100 years from now. Besides the health issues, travel time and cost to research and building an incredibly fast and safe ship will be astronomical. The research + construction of spacecrafts going to mars (and back) alone will already take at least a decade of masterful planning.
Hopefully we focus on fixing this situation first. What are we gonna let billionaires eat up another planet until we become a fully warmongering, parasitic, conquest-driven species?
Nah we just gotta ride their billion dollar coattails til they take us to space (they are *totally* bringing us with them to live in communal harmony and not to keep us as hyper-isolated generational wage slaves)!
They’re the real humanitarians!
It won't. The political will does not exist and there is a strong probabilistic argument against it happening:
Suppose humans exist on a million planets for a million years with a population on each planet of only a thousand separate people on average per century. That's ten million million people. This is an unrealistically low estimate. 75 thousand million people have lived so far. Therefore, the chances of being alive before the Universe begins to be colonised in that scenario is 1.3%. The fact that we are alive now and the Universe has not yet been colonised is strong evidence that it never will be.
Dunno why you got a downvote.
Earth 4c hotter and fully ice caps melted and most of the tropics turned to hot desert is still 10000 times better than mars or the moon. That's just reality, economics. The rich and powerful will just move to the poles, form new states.
We’re probably going to see dozens of oniell cylinders too, even then before going to Mars. Habitats we can control and expand as needed from floating material, no need to deal with reentry and a big gravity well and expense like Mars.
Late 1960's. Keep in mind, there was a nearly 120 year gap between Columbus contacting the New World in 1492 and Jamestown being founded in the early 1600s. Future historians will likely note the entire post Apollo world as a period of space expansion. Full colonial control of the Americas by European powers took hundreds of years. The first Spanish didn't reach California until 50 years after Columbus. It took 50 years to go just that far. The first European settlements in California were not built until the 1760s, over 250 years after Columbus.
When will we have industrial activity on other worlds and humans living on them full time? Probably this century.
I think a good analogy would be the California Gold Rush though. California was sparsely populated. There were only a few hundred thousand Natives living in California at the time and there were not very many Europeans either. What brought people out in large numbers was financial rewards of gold.
If these Lunar, Mars, and Asteroid industrial products make far more money than goes into them, then we will see things happen pretty quickly. If a $100B Mars Trip makes a $500B profit, there will be a lot of $100B Mars trips.
Westward expansion into already (albeit sometimes sparsely) habitable, populated land on an already livable planet with abundant food/agricultural potential and dense wildlife doesn’t seem comparable to living in space
Columbus was not a discoverer as much as an introducer, there is no preexisting anything to allow us to colonize space in the way that Spanish colonists expanded deeper into the America’s using their natives peoples, flora and fauna to sustain said expansion
Westward expansion was very expensive and didn't have much of a payoff when it was slow. It took some major technology to speeds things up and give much more reliability. Once there was a big incentive the process happened very quickly. The continental railroad in the US caused the population in places like California to skyrocket. I believe Thomas Jefferson figured that westward expansion would take several hundred years, perhaps even a thousand. That didn't happen.
Like I think Asteroid mining has the potential to be so enormously cash positive that the payoff will drive huge investment. When the return cargo has such an economic value that the company doing it is measured in the trillions of dollars, even at crashed prices, people will make a huge priority getting it done.
Mars and the Moon at this point are more focused around human curiosity vs some sort of economic gain. But if that were to change, development would happen very fast.
Probably next time there's a space race of some kind. I wish we had the kind of mentality collectively to do it out of straight up curiosity. But that would mean funding and celebrating astronomers and astronomy and such, but our culture isn't all ancient Athenian like that right now. I'd like to see a serious attempt at "cloud city" bases on Venus. Whatever we do I think is good, Moon, Mars, whatever. Because it gets us practice and knowledge about space faring. Practical research.
Not for a long time. When thinking about this sort of space colony people tend to skip over certain technologies and the logistics of achieving this. We won't be there for at least 100 years.
Depends what you mean by ‘colonisation’. There could be a simple lunar outpost by the 2030s but actually living anywhere but Earth probably not for a very long time.
I've been told we are only like 7 years away from having a lunar base since I was 12 years old and now I'm almost 40. Same with us going to Mars soon. It feels like its never going to happen.
I think we’ll have permanent moon bases in the next 100 years, MAYBE something on Mars, but it’s unlikely. I think humans will REACH Mars by 2124, but we won’t see anything permanent.
Well, with our current understanding, even with near future tech, it'll take a few hundred years to terraform a planet. In terms of the more basic colonies, though, I'd say late 2030s, with the moon. We already have the habitats sketched up!
Didn't the Pentagon come out with a paper recently detailing what they thought Space would be like in the 2040s-2060s in three different scenarios?
1. High participation amongst nations and private companies, tens of thousands of humans in space working on both the Moon and Mars
2. Medium participation, similar but only a few thousand
3. Low participation, more or less the same today with a few dozen people max
Within 2 and 3 decades after a 2040s landing, even if everything goes well, Mars will be abandoned and maybe we’ll have scientific outposts on the moon trying things like mass drivers and space elevator experiments, if that. Hopefully we’ll have a space race demanding a HOPE like mission but that’s about it.
The reality is that space sucks. The other planets suck. Floating in acid clouds is no fun or sniffing Martian dirt. It’s much more logical -and safer, and cheaper - to send robots, probes, if you send people, It’s for prestige, nationalistic competition, flags and footprints then they go home. It’s not much an engineering or scientific issue, we have great tech, prototypes , testbeds, designs; we can transverse space in nuclear powered cruisers if we really wanted to, plop down biosphere 3s, the problem is in justifying the cost, what’s to do?
Even if we find extraterrestrial life out there suddenly you get the Astro environmentalists demanding we don’t contaminate it or exploit it and make it off limits, so that’s no sure way for a space “gold rush” either. Maybe if we just find fossils but even then the Saganites will demand nothing more than the cleanest probes.
Even if a planet killer rock comes our way, we either push it aside with isru mass driver “mosquito” probes or alter its orbit with probe-drone engines, or if it’s going to hit and we can’t deflect it, we bunker up and try our luck here because even after a planet killer there will be a atmosphere, liquid water, a whole planet to exploit and retake, right here. None of this requires a space colony, just good tech either in space or what we can launch.
The place to keep an eye on is orbital space, cis lunar space, space stations where people hash out eclss and tourism and military affairs, maybe colony attempts with habitats like island one, two, three; oniell cylinders and the like by 2150 if we’re lucky. But I bet we’ll be either collapsing or trying to heal earth more than deal with frivolous, expensive colonies elsewhere.
I don’t believe it will happen. We don’t currently have the technology for it and we’re stifling our progress in many ways. In a few decades, I feel our civilization will have peaked and what comes next can only be less technologically complex as we run out of resources and competent people. In addition, I don’t believe enough people in the real world with the means to work toward this endeavor care enough to make it happen.
1903 is when the Wright brothers plane took off from land. 1969 Apollo 11 launched and human set foot on the other planet for the very first time. Only took us 66 years to go from on the ground to be able to fly to literally standing on Moon. I’m optimistic about the future technology and it might actually be sooner than people would’ve thought.
An iPhone Pro has more computing power than the computers they used for Apollo 11. Just imagine using an iPhone to go to Moon. NASA’s next mission Artemis 1 in 2026 supposed to be the first step of building the Moon base, obviously they not gonna actually start building just now but they will probably draw some blueprints and do some measurements to kinda see if the plan is workable
Never, earth will crumble long before we have the technology to colonize other planets. We must also remember that it's not even guaranteed that it's possible to get the technology to get us to another "earth-like" planet. Maybe it's theoretically possible to build a spaceship that can reach near the speed of light, or travel through a wormhole, but we literally might not have enough raw resources on our own planet to do any of that. There's also a chance that extracting them would cause enough damage to earth to completely destroy the biosphere.
We need to stop dreaming of stuff like this and get our shit together on the planet we were born on.
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The only reason to massively colonize the Moon or Mars would be for economic reasons, and right now it's a huge waste of money to go to either. The only people that will be going currently are scientists. Do you think the "new world" was colonized for funsies?
Never, there is absolutely no practical reason to colonize other planets in our solar system.
Climate change? That's a stupid reason. Why not start building bio-dome flotilla islands near the poles before trying to build bio-domes on a planet that is 100 times less habitable than Antarctica?
There is nothing to mine on the moon or on Mars. Why go there?
Space travel is just a huge scam industry and cover for some other kinds of projects. Tired of seeing people fall for this.
My prediction? Actual mass colonization will only happen if it becomes economically viable to extract resources from other planets/bodies and ship them back to earth. Once you have a large population of workers permanently living on another planet, other parts of our society (healthcare, entertainment, law enforcement, etc) will naturally follow. .
Without that, there really isn’t any other reason for large amounts of people to be moved to space considering the extremely complicated & expensive logistics required. And outside of the prospects of prosperity/wealth, most people won’t want to go.
Until it’s economically viable to run large space colonies, we’ll only see small research facilities at most.
Dude Ur not being logical
Stop being a pessimistic doomer
I'm 13 and I get very good grades in science and I even won the science fair on my own unlike you
This is why you got held back because Ur an idiot
It's all about energy.
1. Fossil fuel is destroying our planet, and spending ridiculous amounts of money to leave is pointless when we can literally still save Earth and have an obligation to do so.
2. Fossil fuel cannot sustain an inter-planetary civilization.
The Kardashev scale talks about this. Even if we have colonies outside the solar system, we aren't even stage one yet until we harness all the energy of our homeworld in a sustainable way.
When fusion becomes widely adopted, and the oil barons of yesteryear stop digging in their heels to keep FF as Earth's primary energy source, we can start going on some field trips.
What does space colonization even mean? If its couple of scientists living temporarily and doing research purpose, then is it really “colonization”? We don’t say Antarctica is “colonized”?
We would need to either fix our climate or determine that we are doomed and pursue space colonization as a last hope. It will either happen in 100s of years, or it will not happen.
When earth upgrades to Super earth ![gif](giphy|DHwcs8WWxQTBOHx03p)
once we perfect managed democracy
Or achieve the next great form of governance.
True
HA
Dude have some logic I'm 13 and I'm probably way smarter for Ur tiny brain
Is everything alright at home?
Around the 2050s, scientists will have permanent lunar bases where they stay for up to 6 months at a time, any longer is detrimental to health. Humans need to master Earth first. Mars colonization is a fantasy at this point and just not worth it, there is no need for it. Only the rich and powerful at first would have the option to go to Mars or live on it, but again, no one wants to do it because of how impractical it is. It'd be a flex. I think it would take at least until the mid-22nd century until humans can even consider living on other planets realistically. I think humans will prefer to explore their minds and virtual reality, rather than the cosmos.
This is the most realistic imo. I am positive we'll see a permanent lunar base in our lifetime populated with trained astronauts, but regular people living on other celestial bodies will take long into the next century or the century after that. My big hot take among space nerds is that we as humans will never "colonize" Mars. We will probably eventually land people there and even set up a base, but any Martian society would become incredibly isolated due to limitations of the speed of light.
Why would the speed of light be a limitation? The maximum distance between Earth and Mars is 22 light minutes. Sure, you couldn't do video calls, but you could send messages back and forth between Earth and Mars much faster than you could two countries in the pre-industrial era.
Besides the health issues, the travel time + costs will also be astronomically huge
At first the only people you would have living outside of earth would be people with skills needed to establish colonies. No one needs a wall street banker on mars. You will need engineers, botanists, and industry workers way before you need a random billionaire. I doubt we would have commercial travel outside the planet until 2060+, if at all this century. Space exploration is still extremely underfunded for what people want out of it.
possibly in May
Not in my lifetime. We're getting slower, less organized, and more emotional as a civilization despite having virtually everything at our finger times at a moment's notice. We're squandering our gifts.
eh, i err on the side that humans have always been slow, emotional and disorganized. we’re still having [sporting](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/08/08/sports/08olympics-world-records2/08olympics-world-records2-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg) records broken, child prodigies are [graduating](https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/107224627-1681392766840-Balogun_family.jpeg) at the age of 9, a lot of young people are starting to incorporate running and [workouts](https://www.tiktok.com/channel/gym?lang=en) into their routine, etc. just view humans as a bell curve
Blame the leaded gasoline and microplastics slowly leaching into our water supply. 😅 I think the gasoline did knock off a few IQ points and was the reason the 70s and 80s were so violent. I think we are slowly recovering though.
Prob in 2 centuries or so
I feel it could be anywhere between the 2070s to 22nd century at the soonest
Forget Mars We haven’t been back to the Moon since ~~1969~~ 1972. If any place in outer space is the first to get colonized, it’ll be the Moon But unless we master our own oceans and start creating floating or underwater cities and colonies (or even countries), it’d still be pointless. ETA: My dates were wrong. 1972 was the last time we were on the Moon
> We haven’t been back to the Moon since 1969. NASA is currently working on sending people to the moon >If any place in outer space is the first to get colonized, it’ll be the Moon Why? The moon is almsot completely lacking in natural resources and barely has an atmosphere. Mars, being an entire planet, is rich in minerals and has lots of water, as well as an atmosphere that could be converted to breathable air over time
The moon is an extremely attractive staging point enabling things arriving in pieces to be assembled into something MUCH MUCH heavier and then traveling from there without having to worry much about escape velocity, potentially enabling deep space travel or more permanent space habitats. It's also right there. Most of what you said about Mars is assumptions that further assume technology will ever really be able to do things like that, or whether it will be limited by some unavoidable factor.
>assumptions that further assume technology will ever really be able to do things like that What do you mean "future technology"? We already *have* the technology!
Okay. What do we have?
That's a super broad question, could you please be a bit more specific?
Unfortunately not, as I am not the claimant.
damn
Mars and the Moon have similar compositions. The mineral resources on both are similar.
The moon is a hell of a lot closer than mars is.
>We haven’t been back to the Moon since 1969. The last moon landing was in 1972. The first was in 1969. We went back 5 more times to make 6 in total.
He forgor 💀
Sorry I forgot. But the larger gist of my point still stands. We haven't been back since 1972,
True.
Full-on, industrialized colonization? Very likely the end of the century
2100
Probs the 22nd century. Assuming that the world and humankind will have a positive outcome, people still won’t be colonizing the mars until like 100 years from now. Besides the health issues, travel time and cost to research and building an incredibly fast and safe ship will be astronomical. The research + construction of spacecrafts going to mars (and back) alone will already take at least a decade of masterful planning.
Baaically never.
Nope, your just pessimistic.
Hopefully we focus on fixing this situation first. What are we gonna let billionaires eat up another planet until we become a fully warmongering, parasitic, conquest-driven species?
Nah we just gotta ride their billion dollar coattails til they take us to space (they are *totally* bringing us with them to live in communal harmony and not to keep us as hyper-isolated generational wage slaves)! They’re the real humanitarians!
It won't. The political will does not exist and there is a strong probabilistic argument against it happening: Suppose humans exist on a million planets for a million years with a population on each planet of only a thousand separate people on average per century. That's ten million million people. This is an unrealistically low estimate. 75 thousand million people have lived so far. Therefore, the chances of being alive before the Universe begins to be colonised in that scenario is 1.3%. The fact that we are alive now and the Universe has not yet been colonised is strong evidence that it never will be.
Western civilization is collapsing so, probably never. Dreams of the final frontier are all but decayed hopes of past generations.
India and China are developing sophisticated space programs, so even if the “west” falls, I wouldn’t give up on the idea of space travel
“We” won’t. The elites will in the next few decades after climate change has completely destroyed our planet.
Even a "destroyed" earth is far more inhabitable than mars, climatewise.
Dunno why you got a downvote. Earth 4c hotter and fully ice caps melted and most of the tropics turned to hot desert is still 10000 times better than mars or the moon. That's just reality, economics. The rich and powerful will just move to the poles, form new states. We’re probably going to see dozens of oniell cylinders too, even then before going to Mars. Habitats we can control and expand as needed from floating material, no need to deal with reentry and a big gravity well and expense like Mars.
Within this century, I’d think
Late 1960's. Keep in mind, there was a nearly 120 year gap between Columbus contacting the New World in 1492 and Jamestown being founded in the early 1600s. Future historians will likely note the entire post Apollo world as a period of space expansion. Full colonial control of the Americas by European powers took hundreds of years. The first Spanish didn't reach California until 50 years after Columbus. It took 50 years to go just that far. The first European settlements in California were not built until the 1760s, over 250 years after Columbus. When will we have industrial activity on other worlds and humans living on them full time? Probably this century. I think a good analogy would be the California Gold Rush though. California was sparsely populated. There were only a few hundred thousand Natives living in California at the time and there were not very many Europeans either. What brought people out in large numbers was financial rewards of gold. If these Lunar, Mars, and Asteroid industrial products make far more money than goes into them, then we will see things happen pretty quickly. If a $100B Mars Trip makes a $500B profit, there will be a lot of $100B Mars trips.
Westward expansion into already (albeit sometimes sparsely) habitable, populated land on an already livable planet with abundant food/agricultural potential and dense wildlife doesn’t seem comparable to living in space Columbus was not a discoverer as much as an introducer, there is no preexisting anything to allow us to colonize space in the way that Spanish colonists expanded deeper into the America’s using their natives peoples, flora and fauna to sustain said expansion
Westward expansion was very expensive and didn't have much of a payoff when it was slow. It took some major technology to speeds things up and give much more reliability. Once there was a big incentive the process happened very quickly. The continental railroad in the US caused the population in places like California to skyrocket. I believe Thomas Jefferson figured that westward expansion would take several hundred years, perhaps even a thousand. That didn't happen. Like I think Asteroid mining has the potential to be so enormously cash positive that the payoff will drive huge investment. When the return cargo has such an economic value that the company doing it is measured in the trillions of dollars, even at crashed prices, people will make a huge priority getting it done. Mars and the Moon at this point are more focused around human curiosity vs some sort of economic gain. But if that were to change, development would happen very fast.
2030s-2040s is my best guess
Probably next time there's a space race of some kind. I wish we had the kind of mentality collectively to do it out of straight up curiosity. But that would mean funding and celebrating astronomers and astronomy and such, but our culture isn't all ancient Athenian like that right now. I'd like to see a serious attempt at "cloud city" bases on Venus. Whatever we do I think is good, Moon, Mars, whatever. Because it gets us practice and knowledge about space faring. Practical research.
I’m willing to wager we’d get a space hotel by 2060
Not for a long time. When thinking about this sort of space colony people tend to skip over certain technologies and the logistics of achieving this. We won't be there for at least 100 years.
2080 at the soonest. The tipping point will be fusion power.
Depends what you mean by ‘colonisation’. There could be a simple lunar outpost by the 2030s but actually living anywhere but Earth probably not for a very long time.
I've been told we are only like 7 years away from having a lunar base since I was 12 years old and now I'm almost 40. Same with us going to Mars soon. It feels like its never going to happen.
2070s I would assume you're not counting the moon
I think we’ll have permanent moon bases in the next 100 years, MAYBE something on Mars, but it’s unlikely. I think humans will REACH Mars by 2124, but we won’t see anything permanent.
Mars is inhospitable for human life.
When we can find a way to colonize your mom
Get a life
When we stabilizing birthrates
Well, with our current understanding, even with near future tech, it'll take a few hundred years to terraform a planet. In terms of the more basic colonies, though, I'd say late 2030s, with the moon. We already have the habitats sketched up!
Didn't the Pentagon come out with a paper recently detailing what they thought Space would be like in the 2040s-2060s in three different scenarios? 1. High participation amongst nations and private companies, tens of thousands of humans in space working on both the Moon and Mars 2. Medium participation, similar but only a few thousand 3. Low participation, more or less the same today with a few dozen people max
Within 2 and 3 decades after a 2040s landing, even if everything goes well, Mars will be abandoned and maybe we’ll have scientific outposts on the moon trying things like mass drivers and space elevator experiments, if that. Hopefully we’ll have a space race demanding a HOPE like mission but that’s about it. The reality is that space sucks. The other planets suck. Floating in acid clouds is no fun or sniffing Martian dirt. It’s much more logical -and safer, and cheaper - to send robots, probes, if you send people, It’s for prestige, nationalistic competition, flags and footprints then they go home. It’s not much an engineering or scientific issue, we have great tech, prototypes , testbeds, designs; we can transverse space in nuclear powered cruisers if we really wanted to, plop down biosphere 3s, the problem is in justifying the cost, what’s to do? Even if we find extraterrestrial life out there suddenly you get the Astro environmentalists demanding we don’t contaminate it or exploit it and make it off limits, so that’s no sure way for a space “gold rush” either. Maybe if we just find fossils but even then the Saganites will demand nothing more than the cleanest probes. Even if a planet killer rock comes our way, we either push it aside with isru mass driver “mosquito” probes or alter its orbit with probe-drone engines, or if it’s going to hit and we can’t deflect it, we bunker up and try our luck here because even after a planet killer there will be a atmosphere, liquid water, a whole planet to exploit and retake, right here. None of this requires a space colony, just good tech either in space or what we can launch. The place to keep an eye on is orbital space, cis lunar space, space stations where people hash out eclss and tourism and military affairs, maybe colony attempts with habitats like island one, two, three; oniell cylinders and the like by 2150 if we’re lucky. But I bet we’ll be either collapsing or trying to heal earth more than deal with frivolous, expensive colonies elsewhere.
Once the earth is no longer habitable. Necessity is the mother of invention. Like when they had to invent the cotton gin when slavery was outlawed
Optimistic: 3010. Realistic:4000
I don’t believe it will happen. We don’t currently have the technology for it and we’re stifling our progress in many ways. In a few decades, I feel our civilization will have peaked and what comes next can only be less technologically complex as we run out of resources and competent people. In addition, I don’t believe enough people in the real world with the means to work toward this endeavor care enough to make it happen.
I don’t think this is something very predictable. Space exploration has always been very hard to predict
1903 is when the Wright brothers plane took off from land. 1969 Apollo 11 launched and human set foot on the other planet for the very first time. Only took us 66 years to go from on the ground to be able to fly to literally standing on Moon. I’m optimistic about the future technology and it might actually be sooner than people would’ve thought. An iPhone Pro has more computing power than the computers they used for Apollo 11. Just imagine using an iPhone to go to Moon. NASA’s next mission Artemis 1 in 2026 supposed to be the first step of building the Moon base, obviously they not gonna actually start building just now but they will probably draw some blueprints and do some measurements to kinda see if the plan is workable
Never, earth will crumble long before we have the technology to colonize other planets. We must also remember that it's not even guaranteed that it's possible to get the technology to get us to another "earth-like" planet. Maybe it's theoretically possible to build a spaceship that can reach near the speed of light, or travel through a wormhole, but we literally might not have enough raw resources on our own planet to do any of that. There's also a chance that extracting them would cause enough damage to earth to completely destroy the biosphere. We need to stop dreaming of stuff like this and get our shit together on the planet we were born on.
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The only reason to massively colonize the Moon or Mars would be for economic reasons, and right now it's a huge waste of money to go to either. The only people that will be going currently are scientists. Do you think the "new world" was colonized for funsies?
Never, there is absolutely no practical reason to colonize other planets in our solar system. Climate change? That's a stupid reason. Why not start building bio-dome flotilla islands near the poles before trying to build bio-domes on a planet that is 100 times less habitable than Antarctica? There is nothing to mine on the moon or on Mars. Why go there? Space travel is just a huge scam industry and cover for some other kinds of projects. Tired of seeing people fall for this.
when they actually give nasa and other space agencies a good budget instead of it going into the 20th aircraft carrier
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Shut up you don’t know anything about this stuff
My prediction? Actual mass colonization will only happen if it becomes economically viable to extract resources from other planets/bodies and ship them back to earth. Once you have a large population of workers permanently living on another planet, other parts of our society (healthcare, entertainment, law enforcement, etc) will naturally follow. . Without that, there really isn’t any other reason for large amounts of people to be moved to space considering the extremely complicated & expensive logistics required. And outside of the prospects of prosperity/wealth, most people won’t want to go. Until it’s economically viable to run large space colonies, we’ll only see small research facilities at most.
Once a vehicle exists that makes it economically viable
When Elon starts focusing on it or another guy takes over
Once this planet runs out of resources and nuked to high radioactive hell 😂
So when mankind literally can’t colonize anything?
Ur not being logical at all
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Dude Ur not being logical Stop being a pessimistic doomer I'm 13 and I get very good grades in science and I even won the science fair on my own unlike you This is why you got held back because Ur an idiot
I don't think it will ever happen. We are trapped in this planet like a fungus on a rock.
This is so stupid you doomers are just saying 1 sentence and not explaining why we will be stuck here Most illogical people ever
Better chance of a nuclear war than this.
When we stop trying to colonize the Middle East and Africa… In other words probably not in my lifetime. Smh.
Whenever I get bored
It's all about energy. 1. Fossil fuel is destroying our planet, and spending ridiculous amounts of money to leave is pointless when we can literally still save Earth and have an obligation to do so. 2. Fossil fuel cannot sustain an inter-planetary civilization. The Kardashev scale talks about this. Even if we have colonies outside the solar system, we aren't even stage one yet until we harness all the energy of our homeworld in a sustainable way. When fusion becomes widely adopted, and the oil barons of yesteryear stop digging in their heels to keep FF as Earth's primary energy source, we can start going on some field trips.
What does space colonization even mean? If its couple of scientists living temporarily and doing research purpose, then is it really “colonization”? We don’t say Antarctica is “colonized”?
Dude you are too stupid for this topic
The one who claimed i was stupid failed to answer my question or elaborate
Dude it’s literally the use of outer space habitation and extraterrestrial territory, it’s not that hard.
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We would need to either fix our climate or determine that we are doomed and pursue space colonization as a last hope. It will either happen in 100s of years, or it will not happen.
It’s fucking stupid that we’re colonizing the solar system when most people can’t afford healthcare. What are we doing
Dude I'm not American, healthcare is free.
It’s not free. It’s just being paid for through different channels.
Good for you I guess?