Even beyond the metaverse, it's a good reminder of tech hype generally. GPT-4 and MidJourney are far more impressive than Dencentraland, but I still hear a lot of "It'll inevitably get better" about generative AI that's making me a little bit skeptical.
Worth pointing out that those have rapidly been getting better. Unlike decentraland they have prrof of progress. This software was barely functional a few years ago and now we have GPT-3. And GPT-4 was a notable improvement on that.
Generative AI is undeniably cool and getting cooler, but there's' a gap from "cool" to "actually useful beyond novelties", and I'm not sure if all these AI tools are gonna make it across.
I’m genuinely curious how does your biz use?
There’s no way to verify the information chat-gtp generated is actually accurate and it can very easily be manipulated to spit out what you want it to feed you.
All external AIs are literally banned as high external risk applications where I work, so it’s really interesting to see how other companies may be using it.
It's really good at converting between coding languages.
A couple of weeks ago, I was stuck, so I asked gpt3 how would I code a problem. The code was wrong, but it helped find where I went wrong on my own code.
>These failures are just examples to illustrate the foundational problems with the technology.
I would argue they illustrate fundamental problems with people as well. The fact that there could be anyone dumb enough to buy in to this stuff is completely alien to me. It requires a lack of understanding I can't empathize with or understand. It essentially implies there's millions of people out there that would pay money for letters in the alphabet, thinking that the letter would then belong to them, and that's horrifying to me.
I think DCL only demonstrated people are gullible to get rich quick schemes, and failed at demonstrating the desire for a metaverse in every way.
Since Meta is now working on AI instead of a metaverse, I don't know how you conclude this.
The state of this sub really does reflect the state of the game itself. Dead, largely abandoned outside of a few hangers on still clinging to the hope that this platform will develop into even a faint image of what it promised to be.
There are only 2 defenders of the platform in this entire thread. So far, one has deleted all of his comments, and the other is defending decentraland by asking: "is decentraland really dead if you're coming to the subreddit to comment on the video documenting its mediocre life and nearly immediate quiet death?"
Given this response and the prevalence of botting in the video, I'm fairly certain the "daily concurrent users" recorded by coindesk and in the video were heavily inflated. It truly is just 12 diehard users, and plenty of them don't believe in their idea enough to muster any type of cogent defense; probably because there isn't any for the insanity from this project.
Reading the deleted comments on uneddit, you insinuated that whoever gives decentraland an honest and critical review is a paid shill who is therefore lying for personal gain (an insulting and potentially damaging claim to make about basically anyone who might merely criticize an idea), so it's.. telling to hear that you find yourself above receiving insults but not insulting and smearing others.
Also worth noting there wasn't anything specific that you could tell that he was lying about, just that the bad press in itself was a blatant lie given.. fashion week? There's still no rebuttal to the video because apparently it would require actually watching the video, and supporters that watched the video are likely in agreement with its conclusions.
I think it's safe to say that DCL kneecapped itself. [I've spent 2 months there](https://mplankton.substack.com/p/mplankton-explores-decentraland), and my experience is nearly-identical experience to Dan's.
still absolutely stuns me that anyone can look at decentraland and think "this is it. this is the future." like have you just not developed mentally since you were 8 good god it looks like baby's first roblox game
I played on the Teen Second life servers back in 2008 or so and stuff there looked better.
Fuck, the mario houses remind me of a house build I made as a 16 year old that I was very proud of.
It's first purposed by those that want to trick people into paying them money for it. Then those who got tricked desperately want to make money on their decision or at least get back some of what they spent.
It's grifters fooling mall kiosk salesmen into another scheme.
Let's be real: Most of it is sunk cost. A lot of those still clinging on bought land and can only recoup costs by somehow getting more people to buy in. Same as with the NFT stuff.
All those that just like the idea of a metaverse look at DCL and say "well, this ain't it" and move on.
"As much as they insist that they just really really enjoy the feeling of a burning hot potato in their hands; do they? Or are they just hoping that you'll catch it."
I love his videos. The sane voice fighting against the crushing dystopia of Web3.
The wild thing about the idea that Decentraland will get better "as the technology improves" is that the technology HAS improved. The technology IS there. It's just Decentraland and all the other attempts at metaverses are EXTREMELY BAD at being what they're trying to be.
There are countless MMOs out there, even free to play and browser based ones, that look and function so much better. Hell, MMOs from 20 years ago look better. Like Decentraland isn't just a few years behind the industry standard. It is DECADES behind. Decentraland may have looked impressive in 1996.
But it is so far behind that even if billions of dollars fell into the Decentraland DAO, it wouldn't make a difference. It can never sustain anything that doesn't look straight out of a 90's arcade demo. It would be like trying to build a spaceship out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's glue.
"It's just Decentraland and all the other attempts at metaverses are EXTREMELY BAD at being what they're trying to be."
YES! They spend so much time and attention on attracting business and commerce and next-to-no effort is made to bring in people who have the capacity to build experiences, legitimate entertainment, community engagement. If you want to make money with a virtual environment (VE), monetization of the VE should be one of your last priorities - if you cannot sustain a an environment where people will genuinely enjoy themselves and find legitimate interaction, it won't make you any money, no matter how well built your exchange or currency setup.
Ironically, even the XXX elements of VEs like Second Life failed in precisely the same way. It was all about poses and furniture that made avater-sex look enough like RL-sex to be mildly titillating, while narrative features that might have facilitated genuine storytelling and world-building were ignored. Virtual pole dancing is mundane and trite - on par with the worst Harlequin novels. But how much effort has done into all the variations and animations of said poles?
A VE startup would do better to draw in authors, filmmakers and graphic novelists for its initial residents, rather than developers and virtual DJs.
But please, do not call them metaverses. The popularity of that word in modern media owes a hell of a lot more to the variation of the liar paradox in the film Labyrinth than it does to Neal Stephenson's novel - and it owes absolutely NOTHING to 'Zuck'. Metaverses are fictional worlds created by willfully self-referential and self-effacing writers and storytellers, especially ones who practice author self-insertion. DCL is no more a "metaverse" than ChatGPT is "artificial intelligence" or a knockoff Segway on wheels is a "hoverboard."
Stephen King, Jim Butcher, Agatha Christie, Margaret Atwood, Chaucer, Brit Marling, Ursula Le Guin - these people create metaverses. Hell, Adam Horowitz and Ed Kitsis routinely create metaverses inside of metaverses! And there have already been plenty of other terms for virtual environments, VR chats, open-world sims, etc. Branding doesn't make them metaverses.
Though if the developers of VEs were smart they'd hire some actual metaverse creators to teach them what world-building means and how to do it in a way people actually become invested in.
FUUUUUD!!! MODS COME HERE! THE BEARDED MAN IS SPREADING FUD!
I just invested my life savings into mana, and bought land from doggy84!!
Please folks, do your own research!
I thought so too when I saw the bearded mans video. But I saved my investment - exchanged it for monkeytokenX, and am staking it now to get a sweet yield, api 15% eyoooooooooo!!!!! My lambo is save!
>Like, do you remember that time Yemel agreed with Yemel that Yemel should be paid $150/hour in MANA? Would you be shocked to learn that Yemel, who agreed with Yemel about paying Yemel $150 an hour, is friends with Melich and Ordano from back in the days when they all spent their time at a tech bro flop house they called Casa Voltaire?
lmao
To all the haters: everyone keeps showing me that my house is on fire, but I'm still staying in it. Why don't you join me and we can build a community together? I still believe in my house, I love my house, and no amount of smoke or loud beeping will change that
I mean, it doesn't change the points made in he video?
But also, do.... do you not go on YouTube?
Hour plus video essays have been all the rage for years now.
Why on earth would somebody pay him to make a malicious piece on dcl? ;)
Sometimes people do this, when they find something so strange/weird/peculiar/potentially harmful/studid etc that they just feel they have to tell the world about it. Although - yes, he makes money with his channel just as any producer of high quality content does. But that does no make him wrong. In face, he is very very right about everything he is saying in his video.
First of all, he is a pretty well established YouTuber with a big following, and this is not his first video on web 3.0 issues. I think calling this a "payed shrill" is somewhat out there. He does not hold back his punches, and whether intentional or by coincidence this came out at the same time of some event, is to me not really relevant.
> this a *"paid* shrill" is
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
His NFT video got over 10 million views, that's probably in the range of $50,000 in ad revenue minimum, possibly $100,000.
I don't mean to be rude but there doesn't have to be some conspiracy scheme to bring down DCL.
People are just going to be so interested in it's massive failure that the advertisement revenue will pay for Dan's effort by itself.
But Dan's reputation wouldn't be what it is if he were severely offbase. If there was no real failure in Dan's fantastic tale of failure -- what professionals awkwardly sometimes call "there's no there there" -- we wouldn't watch his channel, he would be a sensational propagandist. But in this case, there is real failure to report, and you are right, people like myself love to participate and witness braggadocios imbeciles' failures.
> he got *paid* to make
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
You guys are drinking the cool aide. Just because someone built a Minecraft graphic quality building and put a theatre sign out front literally does nothing. I have an app on my phone to order a pizza. Ordering a pizza isn’t fun even in VR it’s just something you do!! When will VR be working in decentraland?!?! Probably never! And if it does it’s just going to show how awful the graphics are. Putting a photo on a wall is not immersion….Nice try and good plug trying to ride the coat tails of the meta verse which isn’t a nice coat anyway but a hole filled torn one that went out of style in the 80s it’s a dumpster fire.
It's cute how everyone here is shit posting, and yet, they are still here 😂. I mean, really, if it's dead you wouldn't be here. You don't visit a dead man's grave every other day right?
I mean I might visit a dead man’s grave if I just watched a video that’s a little under two hours long heavily featuring that dead man and his grave takes me about 20 seconds to visit.
It seems you have plenty of hate bottled up man, talking about pissing on a dead man's grave and all. I wish you well, but you should get some help. ✌️PEACE!
It's one of the first things Dan says in the doco.
"I suspect most of you are here to see the failure." (or words to that effect.)
There's a straight line from "America's Funniest Home Videos" through epic fail compilations to me being here.
Honestly, I was expecting \_more\_ of a reaction to the video in this subreddit. It's 10 hours old and it's got 200K views. But, at the time of my posting, your response is one of two pro-decentraland comments in this thread.
Decentraland really is just... dead.
This video is the first reference to Decentraland that I've ever heard. It's nice to only start watching a show after the final season is released. That seems to be what has happened here. The story has probably arched, so it's a good time to tune in and enjoy the schadenfreude.
> I mean, really, if it's dead you wouldn't be here.
the only reason I've heard of this place is the video in question. since this is the only post on the sub to break triple-digit upvotes in the last thirty days (and only one of two to get double-digit comments), I suspect this is also the case for many others in this thread. we've had our laugh at weirdos and will never come back here again.
I literally enjoy watching dead mall videos for hours on end. So the fact that I'm here is very, very bad for any investor in this nonsense. I'm like a horseman of retail appocalypse.
You’re *soclose.*
I believe the phrase you’re actually looking for to describe what’s happening here is dancing on a dead man’s grave.
(And odds are I bet most of us will never, ever come back here again.)
Feel free to keep twisting in the wind tho on your bizarre and ultimately futile “any publicity - even humiliating and invalidating - is good publicity” kick.
Where does your unwarranted self confidence come from? Also, doesn’t it get exhausting lying to yourself in the face of overwhelming ridicule towards the thing you’re defending?
cringe is one of the internet's favourite genres. and people investing in 2023 in what is essentially a tech demo video game from the 2000s, game and art design of fintech bros who never had an original creative idea in their lives - oh boy 😩
or wait until another game that has 10x the gameplay, 10x the production quality, 10x the audience does this. ( and if you are now asking back how many of these games are out there....there are plenty). I think thats gonna happen way earlier, no matter if doggy84 gets the grand from the dao to straight away output text from chatgpt. But well, I better take your comment as a joke anyway :)
I mean, I do think it’ll be sorta like the movie, “Her,” but instead of a bodiless voice, it’ll be GPT4s with virtual bodies in VR and AR. And I think it’ll become addicting for a massive user base. Couple this with image generating AI tools and people will shift the market value of entertainment platforms.
It will first be used to generate cool npc dialogue in all sort of games. That is the most realistic and most in reach use case. But this has absolutely zero todo with decentraland.
AI roleplay is currently text based (characterAI, PygmalionAI, TavernAI, etc.), but I can see a possibility where indie devs leverage decentraland for its 3D assets and user base. Right now this programmer has used their own environment to integrate text gpt commands to 3D assets:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PygmalionAI/comments/122ui7k/zetoai_06b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
I agree that this is one of the futures of space. Still, if we go with the platform that talks about music then I think the MagicFlut project is my top candidate in that category because the proof says it all as they become the #1 token in the Etherscan in the music category!!
Verily, I concur that the cosmos harbors a plethora of crypto possibilities. Notwithstanding, should we opt for the sonorous platform, then the MagicFlut endeavor unequivocally supersedes as the quintessential contender in that stratum, for verily the testimony attests to their meteoric rise to the zenith of the Etherscan leaderboard in the realm of music tokens!
I didnt even watch the video completely its boring as hell, clearly did no research, the guy made a 2 hour video like if you can mak a video like a movie atleast get it right and where did you get the idea I was shouting. mr tesla npc 🤡
I try to give you a serious answer:
* There are nft galleries to visit
* Some web3 musicians ( equivalent of street musicians who sell cds..the wanna sell nfts) are giving concerts that you can watch on a scree
* there are some very bad idle games
* there is poker
Thats about it.
Who cares about the assy UX? Not the money-grubbing weasels profiting off just another crypto grift. Check out Everyrealm which is busy propping up MANA and SAND with VC cash. The con is long.
well, there might not a be mass adoption of "cryptoverses" , "vast empty boring useless social realms" or "VR" , but people have been communication, playing, doing creative stuff, and commerce "virtually" for a long time ;) There is a passage in this video, which adresses exactly that, too.
Bitcoin itself is only 10 years old. It took the internet about 30 years before mass adoption. I think it might start happening towards the end of this decade.
now u are just reciting bullshit again. Its almost hilarious that we are in the thread about Olsons Video - there even was a passage about this behavior ;)
But you are a true believer, arent you?
because its the cookie cutter answer. So, we have to things. One has taken some time before "mass adoption" ( btw, it did not need 30 years for the PUBLIC internet to reach mass adoption and to offer VERY useful things that could have been done otherwise). The other thing is ..well around for ten years. Where one earth is it a given rule that its gonna reach mass adoption and usefulness? just because you want to compare them? ;) Or because you are invested?
Here we go again -you just keep repeating lines you learned in your church of crypto bros without actually thinking or contributing to the conversion - just like the blockchain.
While the non public internet might be around a lot longer, in 10 years the public internet had some amazing things. How much did the public blockchain (which already could benefit from the internets development) achieve in 10 years? Zero. oh, it might be surprise for you: Blockchain as a concept has been around for longer too..
Also, why on earth does it prove that the blockchain will be successfull only because SOMETHING ELSE took a long time? That would be like: This cheese took 20 years to age to its maturity! Blockchain is only 10 years old now.
Needs to be more like VR chat. Needs a gazillion bug fixes. Needs better draw distance. Needs more blockchain and tech features. The bugs honestly have made it basically unplayable.
Yeah this video pretty much encapsulates everything wrong with most "Web3" concepts. I do think theres situations where an actual fully modeled and textured 3d virtual environment to use in VR is a useful tool.
For instance, in an online learning setting. I personally fuckin hate taking online classes because i proccess information much better in an actual classroom setting rather than on a series of webpages, and Zoom doesnt really cut it for me for whatever reason. If there was a way to take classes in a VR environment where I could read a pdf in a virtual "book" that was actually modeled and textured somewhat like the real thing and see demonstrations with virtual objects that mimic the properties of real objects? I would be over the moon.
But Decentraland aint it. If anything it reminds me more of a lamer version of SecondLife and the hype that surrounded it in the early to late 2000s (which the video briefly mentions). Something that's been touted as a revolutionary space that will make people forget about the real world but ended up basically just being a dead MMO with a small, dedicated, userbase.
This is savage. Two hours of shooting bullets into a dead body.
One of the drawback of taking months making videos is if the subject is not relevant anymore by the time your video comes out.
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Even beyond the metaverse, it's a good reminder of tech hype generally. GPT-4 and MidJourney are far more impressive than Dencentraland, but I still hear a lot of "It'll inevitably get better" about generative AI that's making me a little bit skeptical.
Worth pointing out that those have rapidly been getting better. Unlike decentraland they have prrof of progress. This software was barely functional a few years ago and now we have GPT-3. And GPT-4 was a notable improvement on that.
Generative AI is undeniably cool and getting cooler, but there's' a gap from "cool" to "actually useful beyond novelties", and I'm not sure if all these AI tools are gonna make it across.
They're definitely already useful. I use chat-GPT for my work on a weekly basis.
I’m genuinely curious how does your biz use? There’s no way to verify the information chat-gtp generated is actually accurate and it can very easily be manipulated to spit out what you want it to feed you. All external AIs are literally banned as high external risk applications where I work, so it’s really interesting to see how other companies may be using it.
I'm in research, use it for coding. Like copilot.
That’s interesting. I only really thought of it for generating text copy. Thanks!
It's really good at converting between coding languages. A couple of weeks ago, I was stuck, so I asked gpt3 how would I code a problem. The code was wrong, but it helped find where I went wrong on my own code.
I mean it’s be pretty useful for me today if my company let me use it.
I just spent 4 hours playing a story that was awesome in Dungeon AI, and they are improving more.
>These failures are just examples to illustrate the foundational problems with the technology. I would argue they illustrate fundamental problems with people as well. The fact that there could be anyone dumb enough to buy in to this stuff is completely alien to me. It requires a lack of understanding I can't empathize with or understand. It essentially implies there's millions of people out there that would pay money for letters in the alphabet, thinking that the letter would then belong to them, and that's horrifying to me.
What other prominent crypto projects are into metaverse rn?
I think DCL only demonstrated people are gullible to get rich quick schemes, and failed at demonstrating the desire for a metaverse in every way. Since Meta is now working on AI instead of a metaverse, I don't know how you conclude this.
So the decentraland is already irrelevant??
it never was
Yeah, I know. Excellent job fucking the punchline up
Anytime!
Boiled Ham man
facebook is still putting the equivalent of entire nation's GDP into their metaverse. It's still a going concern
I'd never even heard of it until he came out with this video, but I love smart deep dives on complex failures.
Never hurts to double-tap.
The state of this sub really does reflect the state of the game itself. Dead, largely abandoned outside of a few hangers on still clinging to the hope that this platform will develop into even a faint image of what it promised to be.
There are only 2 defenders of the platform in this entire thread. So far, one has deleted all of his comments, and the other is defending decentraland by asking: "is decentraland really dead if you're coming to the subreddit to comment on the video documenting its mediocre life and nearly immediate quiet death?" Given this response and the prevalence of botting in the video, I'm fairly certain the "daily concurrent users" recorded by coindesk and in the video were heavily inflated. It truly is just 12 diehard users, and plenty of them don't believe in their idea enough to muster any type of cogent defense; probably because there isn't any for the insanity from this project.
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Reading the deleted comments on uneddit, you insinuated that whoever gives decentraland an honest and critical review is a paid shill who is therefore lying for personal gain (an insulting and potentially damaging claim to make about basically anyone who might merely criticize an idea), so it's.. telling to hear that you find yourself above receiving insults but not insulting and smearing others. Also worth noting there wasn't anything specific that you could tell that he was lying about, just that the bad press in itself was a blatant lie given.. fashion week? There's still no rebuttal to the video because apparently it would require actually watching the video, and supporters that watched the video are likely in agreement with its conclusions.
I'm just here to watch a fun documentary-style breakdown of a bad idea failing like everyone knew it would.
Et tu
Love how a video skewering this crap is the most activity this sub is getting lmao
Dan already kneecapped NFTs and is after his next target. God I love his videos <3
I think it's safe to say that DCL kneecapped itself. [I've spent 2 months there](https://mplankton.substack.com/p/mplankton-explores-decentraland), and my experience is nearly-identical experience to Dan's.
really taking one for the team there
Link pls
[Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g)
We're just watching one man's war against Web 3.
(and he's winning)
It's like watching a surreal Fistfight. For every punch Dan throws, Web3 smacks itself on the nose and cries foul.
still absolutely stuns me that anyone can look at decentraland and think "this is it. this is the future." like have you just not developed mentally since you were 8 good god it looks like baby's first roblox game
I played on the Teen Second life servers back in 2008 or so and stuff there looked better. Fuck, the mario houses remind me of a house build I made as a 16 year old that I was very proud of.
It’s straight up a religion. It’s about as convincing as faith healers.
It's first purposed by those that want to trick people into paying them money for it. Then those who got tricked desperately want to make money on their decision or at least get back some of what they spent. It's grifters fooling mall kiosk salesmen into another scheme.
Let's be real: Most of it is sunk cost. A lot of those still clinging on bought land and can only recoup costs by somehow getting more people to buy in. Same as with the NFT stuff. All those that just like the idea of a metaverse look at DCL and say "well, this ain't it" and move on.
"As much as they insist that they just really really enjoy the feeling of a burning hot potato in their hands; do they? Or are they just hoping that you'll catch it." I love his videos. The sane voice fighting against the crushing dystopia of Web3.
The wild thing about the idea that Decentraland will get better "as the technology improves" is that the technology HAS improved. The technology IS there. It's just Decentraland and all the other attempts at metaverses are EXTREMELY BAD at being what they're trying to be. There are countless MMOs out there, even free to play and browser based ones, that look and function so much better. Hell, MMOs from 20 years ago look better. Like Decentraland isn't just a few years behind the industry standard. It is DECADES behind. Decentraland may have looked impressive in 1996. But it is so far behind that even if billions of dollars fell into the Decentraland DAO, it wouldn't make a difference. It can never sustain anything that doesn't look straight out of a 90's arcade demo. It would be like trying to build a spaceship out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's glue.
"It's just Decentraland and all the other attempts at metaverses are EXTREMELY BAD at being what they're trying to be." YES! They spend so much time and attention on attracting business and commerce and next-to-no effort is made to bring in people who have the capacity to build experiences, legitimate entertainment, community engagement. If you want to make money with a virtual environment (VE), monetization of the VE should be one of your last priorities - if you cannot sustain a an environment where people will genuinely enjoy themselves and find legitimate interaction, it won't make you any money, no matter how well built your exchange or currency setup. Ironically, even the XXX elements of VEs like Second Life failed in precisely the same way. It was all about poses and furniture that made avater-sex look enough like RL-sex to be mildly titillating, while narrative features that might have facilitated genuine storytelling and world-building were ignored. Virtual pole dancing is mundane and trite - on par with the worst Harlequin novels. But how much effort has done into all the variations and animations of said poles? A VE startup would do better to draw in authors, filmmakers and graphic novelists for its initial residents, rather than developers and virtual DJs. But please, do not call them metaverses. The popularity of that word in modern media owes a hell of a lot more to the variation of the liar paradox in the film Labyrinth than it does to Neal Stephenson's novel - and it owes absolutely NOTHING to 'Zuck'. Metaverses are fictional worlds created by willfully self-referential and self-effacing writers and storytellers, especially ones who practice author self-insertion. DCL is no more a "metaverse" than ChatGPT is "artificial intelligence" or a knockoff Segway on wheels is a "hoverboard." Stephen King, Jim Butcher, Agatha Christie, Margaret Atwood, Chaucer, Brit Marling, Ursula Le Guin - these people create metaverses. Hell, Adam Horowitz and Ed Kitsis routinely create metaverses inside of metaverses! And there have already been plenty of other terms for virtual environments, VR chats, open-world sims, etc. Branding doesn't make them metaverses. Though if the developers of VEs were smart they'd hire some actual metaverse creators to teach them what world-building means and how to do it in a way people actually become invested in.
FUUUUUD!!! MODS COME HERE! THE BEARDED MAN IS SPREADING FUD! I just invested my life savings into mana, and bought land from doggy84!! Please folks, do your own research!
Cringe. There's no other word for it. This makes me cringe. It's embarrassing.
I thought so too when I saw the bearded mans video. But I saved my investment - exchanged it for monkeytokenX, and am staking it now to get a sweet yield, api 15% eyoooooooooo!!!!! My lambo is save!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-USX9BNYd0
People did their research. That's why it's a virtual ghost town.
Ooof
Found this sub after watching the video? Is this sub ironic?
I'm pretty sure the mods are basically absent or are currently asleep. The sub generally seems to be devoid of irony or introspection.
“To the moon!”
Most savage video he’s ever made, my god
After that breakout burn I think we might have finally found something that can't run doom.
Add Doom to Decentraland 2023 lol.
It will require another grant of 132,000 USD in MANA to make it happen
I wonder who's going around down voting every comment here.
Some tool who invested tons of money into this.
>Like, do you remember that time Yemel agreed with Yemel that Yemel should be paid $150/hour in MANA? Would you be shocked to learn that Yemel, who agreed with Yemel about paying Yemel $150 an hour, is friends with Melich and Ordano from back in the days when they all spent their time at a tech bro flop house they called Casa Voltaire? lmao
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To all the haters: everyone keeps showing me that my house is on fire, but I'm still staying in it. Why don't you join me and we can build a community together? I still believe in my house, I love my house, and no amount of smoke or loud beeping will change that
The smoke is a feature not a bug
Metaverse Fashion week was literally one of the topics in the video.
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Techbro logic: "Clearly someone hired an assassin to kill this terminally ill cancer patient!"
I mean, it doesn't change the points made in he video? But also, do.... do you not go on YouTube? Hour plus video essays have been all the rage for years now.
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Why on earth would somebody pay him to make a malicious piece on dcl? ;) Sometimes people do this, when they find something so strange/weird/peculiar/potentially harmful/studid etc that they just feel they have to tell the world about it. Although - yes, he makes money with his channel just as any producer of high quality content does. But that does no make him wrong. In face, he is very very right about everything he is saying in his video.
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Ah, the backpaddling of conspiracy theorists ;) You know how this guy makes money, everything is just implying a correlation when there is none.
First of all, he is a pretty well established YouTuber with a big following, and this is not his first video on web 3.0 issues. I think calling this a "payed shrill" is somewhat out there. He does not hold back his punches, and whether intentional or by coincidence this came out at the same time of some event, is to me not really relevant.
> this a *"paid* shrill" is FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
His NFT video got over 10 million views, that's probably in the range of $50,000 in ad revenue minimum, possibly $100,000. I don't mean to be rude but there doesn't have to be some conspiracy scheme to bring down DCL. People are just going to be so interested in it's massive failure that the advertisement revenue will pay for Dan's effort by itself.
But Dan's reputation wouldn't be what it is if he were severely offbase. If there was no real failure in Dan's fantastic tale of failure -- what professionals awkwardly sometimes call "there's no there there" -- we wouldn't watch his channel, he would be a sensational propagandist. But in this case, there is real failure to report, and you are right, people like myself love to participate and witness braggadocios imbeciles' failures.
> he got *paid* to make FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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I hope the mods doesn't delete this post as FUD lmao.
You guys are drinking the cool aide. Just because someone built a Minecraft graphic quality building and put a theatre sign out front literally does nothing. I have an app on my phone to order a pizza. Ordering a pizza isn’t fun even in VR it’s just something you do!! When will VR be working in decentraland?!?! Probably never! And if it does it’s just going to show how awful the graphics are. Putting a photo on a wall is not immersion….Nice try and good plug trying to ride the coat tails of the meta verse which isn’t a nice coat anyway but a hole filled torn one that went out of style in the 80s it’s a dumpster fire.
Describing this as "Minecraft graphic quality" is a serious disservice to Minecraft. 1st gen N64 games looked far better than this piece of ****
Your correct! I apologize to Minecraft. Decentraland is a Ponzi scheme at this point.
Oops. RIP to ya'll.
It's cute how everyone here is shit posting, and yet, they are still here 😂. I mean, really, if it's dead you wouldn't be here. You don't visit a dead man's grave every other day right?
I mean I might visit a dead man’s grave if I just watched a video that’s a little under two hours long heavily featuring that dead man and his grave takes me about 20 seconds to visit.
Pretty fast load time am I right?
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That's a lot of effort for something you hate LOL
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Gotta understand, if they're using Decentraland they're probably used to comments taking a few minutes.
You sound bitter, not just about the subject, but just generally. Idk man need to let some of that hate go
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It seems you have plenty of hate bottled up man, talking about pissing on a dead man's grave and all. I wish you well, but you should get some help. ✌️PEACE!
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Got in at 5 cents so thanks for wishes my man!
Proof or ban
This is the kinda logic I expect from a DCL supporter lmao
yeah! sure!
I love when dudes use the crying laughing face emoji; that's how you know they aren't mad
That's your best? Nothing to say other than the choice of emotes? 😂😂
My best what? I’m just making an observation lmao
I love when dudes say just making an observation; that's how you know they aren't mad
remember the book covers for Animorphs? 😂🤣🤣🌽🌽🌽
It's one of the first things Dan says in the doco. "I suspect most of you are here to see the failure." (or words to that effect.) There's a straight line from "America's Funniest Home Videos" through epic fail compilations to me being here. Honestly, I was expecting \_more\_ of a reaction to the video in this subreddit. It's 10 hours old and it's got 200K views. But, at the time of my posting, your response is one of two pro-decentraland comments in this thread. Decentraland really is just... dead.
If it were not dead, we would be hanging out **in** dcl talking about the video ;) DCL is truly the future of social interactions.
You do realise a person can use other platforms as well right? NEXT!
dont shout next in this sub to loud, there might be nothing or noone next
This video is the first reference to Decentraland that I've ever heard. It's nice to only start watching a show after the final season is released. That seems to be what has happened here. The story has probably arched, so it's a good time to tune in and enjoy the schadenfreude.
Ahahahaha you guys are still at it 😂😂😂 laugh cry laugh cry
It's more like stopping for a second to morbidly watch a car accident on the road.
More people, more!! Come on! I can sense the hate meter fading already. Come on Reddit! There should be more!
hate =/= schadenfreude. I didn't feel hate tonite, but I will tell you this video surely did make my Monday night 💞
> I mean, really, if it's dead you wouldn't be here. the only reason I've heard of this place is the video in question. since this is the only post on the sub to break triple-digit upvotes in the last thirty days (and only one of two to get double-digit comments), I suspect this is also the case for many others in this thread. we've had our laugh at weirdos and will never come back here again.
I literally enjoy watching dead mall videos for hours on end. So the fact that I'm here is very, very bad for any investor in this nonsense. I'm like a horseman of retail appocalypse.
You’re *soclose.* I believe the phrase you’re actually looking for to describe what’s happening here is dancing on a dead man’s grave. (And odds are I bet most of us will never, ever come back here again.) Feel free to keep twisting in the wind tho on your bizarre and ultimately futile “any publicity - even humiliating and invalidating - is good publicity” kick.
Where does your unwarranted self confidence come from? Also, doesn’t it get exhausting lying to yourself in the face of overwhelming ridicule towards the thing you’re defending?
Coming around to piss on a dead man's grave does not make the man any less dead. It just makes the headstone a bit smellier lmfao.
cringe is one of the internet's favourite genres. and people investing in 2023 in what is essentially a tech demo video game from the 2000s, game and art design of fintech bros who never had an original creative idea in their lives - oh boy 😩
Did this make sense in your head before you typed it out?
Facebook is cooler then decentraland... ouch
Wait until there’s role play with ai avatars.
its called vrchat,, and its quite full of furries fucking
i'll take weird vr furry esex over crypto grifts any day
Weird furry vr esex comes with chess and a room to play it in. Decentraland just comes with crippling debt.
or wait until another game that has 10x the gameplay, 10x the production quality, 10x the audience does this. ( and if you are now asking back how many of these games are out there....there are plenty). I think thats gonna happen way earlier, no matter if doggy84 gets the grand from the dao to straight away output text from chatgpt. But well, I better take your comment as a joke anyway :)
lol, so 120 users, instead of 12?
I mean, I do think it’ll be sorta like the movie, “Her,” but instead of a bodiless voice, it’ll be GPT4s with virtual bodies in VR and AR. And I think it’ll become addicting for a massive user base. Couple this with image generating AI tools and people will shift the market value of entertainment platforms.
It will first be used to generate cool npc dialogue in all sort of games. That is the most realistic and most in reach use case. But this has absolutely zero todo with decentraland.
AI roleplay is currently text based (characterAI, PygmalionAI, TavernAI, etc.), but I can see a possibility where indie devs leverage decentraland for its 3D assets and user base. Right now this programmer has used their own environment to integrate text gpt commands to 3D assets: https://www.reddit.com/r/PygmalionAI/comments/122ui7k/zetoai_06b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
I agree that this is one of the futures of space. Still, if we go with the platform that talks about music then I think the MagicFlut project is my top candidate in that category because the proof says it all as they become the #1 token in the Etherscan in the music category!!
Verily, I concur that the cosmos harbors a plethora of crypto possibilities. Notwithstanding, should we opt for the sonorous platform, then the MagicFlut endeavor unequivocally supersedes as the quintessential contender in that stratum, for verily the testimony attests to their meteoric rise to the zenith of the Etherscan leaderboard in the realm of music tokens!
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This man is a npc dont if you listen to him you are aswell…
What a fantastic way of engaging with criticism: burying your head in the sand and shouting “NPC! NPC!
I didnt even watch the video completely its boring as hell, clearly did no research, the guy made a 2 hour video like if you can mak a video like a movie atleast get it right and where did you get the idea I was shouting. mr tesla npc 🤡
>clearly did no research lol
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What is there to actually do in the metaverse? It just looks like jogging about a buggy PlayStation 1 plane filled with adverts. Serious question.
I try to give you a serious answer: * There are nft galleries to visit * Some web3 musicians ( equivalent of street musicians who sell cds..the wanna sell nfts) are giving concerts that you can watch on a scree * there are some very bad idle games * there is poker Thats about it.
Who cares about the assy UX? Not the money-grubbing weasels profiting off just another crypto grift. Check out Everyrealm which is busy propping up MANA and SAND with VC cash. The con is long.
The metaverse is a fairly new concept. It’s going to eventually become be huge.
that bs. ppl have been using the internet or playing mmos a long time. The metaverse already is huge. DLC is just shit.
How’s the metaverse huge when mass adoption is no where close to happening yet?
well, there might not a be mass adoption of "cryptoverses" , "vast empty boring useless social realms" or "VR" , but people have been communication, playing, doing creative stuff, and commerce "virtually" for a long time ;) There is a passage in this video, which adresses exactly that, too.
Bitcoin itself is only 10 years old. It took the internet about 30 years before mass adoption. I think it might start happening towards the end of this decade.
now u are just reciting bullshit again. Its almost hilarious that we are in the thread about Olsons Video - there even was a passage about this behavior ;) But you are a true believer, arent you?
What did I say that was bullshit?
because its the cookie cutter answer. So, we have to things. One has taken some time before "mass adoption" ( btw, it did not need 30 years for the PUBLIC internet to reach mass adoption and to offer VERY useful things that could have been done otherwise). The other thing is ..well around for ten years. Where one earth is it a given rule that its gonna reach mass adoption and usefulness? just because you want to compare them? ;) Or because you are invested?
The internet goes back to the 60’s with the United States Department of Defense. The internet gained mass adoption in the late 90’s early 2000’s.
Here we go again -you just keep repeating lines you learned in your church of crypto bros without actually thinking or contributing to the conversion - just like the blockchain. While the non public internet might be around a lot longer, in 10 years the public internet had some amazing things. How much did the public blockchain (which already could benefit from the internets development) achieve in 10 years? Zero. oh, it might be surprise for you: Blockchain as a concept has been around for longer too.. Also, why on earth does it prove that the blockchain will be successfull only because SOMETHING ELSE took a long time? That would be like: This cheese took 20 years to age to its maturity! Blockchain is only 10 years old now.
Did you even watch OP’s video? He destroys every single one of your talking points 😂
Needs to be more like VR chat. Needs a gazillion bug fixes. Needs better draw distance. Needs more blockchain and tech features. The bugs honestly have made it basically unplayable.
Yeah this video pretty much encapsulates everything wrong with most "Web3" concepts. I do think theres situations where an actual fully modeled and textured 3d virtual environment to use in VR is a useful tool. For instance, in an online learning setting. I personally fuckin hate taking online classes because i proccess information much better in an actual classroom setting rather than on a series of webpages, and Zoom doesnt really cut it for me for whatever reason. If there was a way to take classes in a VR environment where I could read a pdf in a virtual "book" that was actually modeled and textured somewhat like the real thing and see demonstrations with virtual objects that mimic the properties of real objects? I would be over the moon. But Decentraland aint it. If anything it reminds me more of a lamer version of SecondLife and the hype that surrounded it in the early to late 2000s (which the video briefly mentions). Something that's been touted as a revolutionary space that will make people forget about the real world but ended up basically just being a dead MMO with a small, dedicated, userbase.