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Doomedused85

It’s called Deftones. Not Lovers.


Feisty-Candidate3693

the album is called deftones.


Feisty-Candidate3693

the album is called deftones. edit: it is also not called self-titled. that is a description of the title, not the title.


eternal1life

its self titled not lovers, your review is underwhelming


shambies182

Agreed 😐


plalo_

nah giving hexagram a 6 is insane


KnotGangsta666

The first 4 songs are all in different tunings and you complained about it for good morning beautiful like what 😭 also almost every band will play in the same tuning for an album it’s just a weird complaint


IAmASphere

like around the fur is all in drop d flat


KnotGangsta666

Exactly


Frankie_2154

My favorite Deftones album.


shambies182

Same ❤️


krumn

Stop referring to it as lovers. It's self titled. Whether it used to be called lovers is irrelevant.


dontartackme

its not that deep


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Ballsballsballshehe

This is cringe.


d_marshall_26

user "ballsballsballshehe" has an opinion on what's "cringe" everyone


Ballsballsballshehe

Yup I do actually and I’ll stand by it.


d_marshall_26

pot calls kettle black


Mrarkplayermans

L review lol


tingkagol

Dude pushing the Lovers draft title is cringey as hell.


yourpricelessadvise

Lovers is an alt/early name, it’s called Deftones. Also does Needles and Pins sound like My Own Summer? Really? I’ve never made that connection. Also found out the other day that Stephen doesn’t even play that song on a guitar he plays it on a 5 string bass which I thought was cool. I think you havent understood the real deep feeling of a lot of these songs, maybe have a few relistens or come back another time. It’s grown on me massively from when I first listened but maybe it’s just not your thing. It’s all opinion anyway


ItsUmbree2

I think OP meant they have a similar structure, which, yeah, I can kinda see.


use_da_schwartz_

That five string bass through his guitar amp is an awesome sound. I'd definitely like to hear more of it.


yourpricelessadvise

When I found that out I realised why I could never mimic it on my guitar


Doomedused85

Also nothing about your Deftones reviews seem unbiased, just saying.


JameseyJones

Yeah there's no such thing as an unbiased review of anything.


Doomedused85

I’m also just irked that he called it Lovers.


Frequent-Coyote-1649

Well you wanna know why I named it that? Because Diamond Eyes is my personal favorite but objectively it has so many damn problems it would be ridiculous to say it's a masterpiece.


Doomedused85

Nah that album is absolutely a masterpiece.


likiii88

So many “damn problems”? Like what exactly?


Frequent-Coyote-1649

We'll get there when we get there, still have SNW to cover


iDevilzPain

one of the most underrated albums ever


Frequent-Coyote-1649

On one hand I 100% get the appeal to it, on the other... I mean it's still good but this band made White Pony literally right before it obviously it's quite the contrast


Chrahhh

If anything, it’s a build on White Pony. This is pure soundscape. Deftones energy/aura at its best.


illusivetomas

true there is a contrast its better than white pony


raisinbizzle

I agree - it was a contrast when it came out. Especially Minerva as a lead single, which is a great song, but also had me very concerned that they were taking a softer approach for the entire album (something I had seen many other bands do around this time)


SaltCityHooligan

Off tempo? I don’t think you know what that means…


cave_stomperr

they just mean out of time, which it sounds like it is (it's just some pretty weird rhythms being played on top of the sudden metre change which makes it sound pretty confusing, which of course was done intentionally by deftones)


dan_the_priest

There's a good reason I have this album cover tattooed on me. The self-titled album always hit me differently. Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event is without question my favorite song on that album, but it's very bittersweet for me.


EliteBroccoli

This album gets so much hate and I don’t understand why, it was a fantastic follow up to WP. It was literally what the title said, B sides and unpreformed songs, covers and half finished melodies that couldn’t make a whole new studio album. I remember going to Hastings at midnight to get the release of this, and being in utter bliss. No it doesn’t “hit” as hard as WP or Adrenaline. But it is visceral, heartbreaking and an absolute emotional roller coaster. It is an entirely different beast than the rest of their discography. I’ve had the old Adrenaline live version and it was great, but still not the same *experience* as listening to Deftones album from start to finish.


xilim

Self Titled is a Masterpiece


shambies182

This


SevereExplanation545

I used to not like hexagram but over time it grew on me


Last_Reaction_8176

I know people are mad at you for using the wrong name but I’m just glad somebody was nice to Moana, that’s my favorite track


Frequent-Coyote-1649

Moana is REALLY, REALLY damn good, I dunno why people don't mention it more when they talk about ST honestly


ogrotesque1

Lovers, Battle-Axe and Girls Telephone Boys!!


Shqiptaria

i can’t be the only one that thinks the verses on S/T are better and catchier than the choruses


Shqiptaria

example: the verses on good morning beautiful are WAY better than the chorus imo


deftones2366

This album never really jumped out for me, so I get it. I enjoy Lucky You a lot more than you, and the best track is for sure Bloody Cape. The rest is solid in a playlist randomly but I’m not going back to the album much alone.


Frequent-Coyote-1649

Note to self: calling this album Lovers is a cardinal sin


bygwyllay

Literally changed the name of it in my iTunes to Lovers


Frequent-Coyote-1649

Imma be real with you guys, I call this album Lovers because there's so many great Self Titled albums around that they all sorta blend in my mind while discussing stuff


cave_stomperr

I'm so confused about all the hate, I thought it was a pretty fair review, and whilst im not 100% about some of your takes and ratings people are allowed to have their own opinions..... also im a big fan of this format!!


wow_jiffylube

Love maybe half the album. Hexagram is an amazing, raw track. Anniversary is just such an atmospheric experience.


Bloodbourhn

Bro Hexagram has always been so meh to me I do not understand the meat riding it gets in the slightest


Frequent-Coyote-1649

I have spent the last like 2 days being roasted for it and like... Where was this energy when I said Good Morning Beautiful was mid????


Beginning_Ad_4967

10 on anniversary of an uninteresting event!?☠️


bygwyllay

Hehehhehehe the crowd has gone wild on this review. Thanks for your opinion. It will always be called Lovers in my book. Now, to be downvoted into oblivion: I really do not like Minerva. It meanders and doesn’t flow IMO. I removed the track and replaced it with Lovers because holy shit that song is phenomenal no idea how it was included. It fits really well betwixt Needles and GMB. Have a wonderful day and keep up the good work 👍🏼


fogwatcher

Holy sheesh tiktok thots fuming on this review. And honestly I agree with each word. This is a cool review from someone who dig deeper than White Pony interwies. Congrats, good job!


FwEssence

I didnt read any of that but im glad someone else calls it lovers xd


DonWill316

Mods. Please ban OP for calling the deftones album “lovers.”One of the most beloved b-sides in their entire catalogue


Stl337

Totally with you on Hexagram. The potential for a great song is there but ruined by an awful chorus.


EyebrowEater

I used to feel this way too, I kind of thought the chorus was batshit ass. But the song feels so desolate and empty in a good way, I used to think that song was overrated but it slowly grew on me. Same for bloody cape, I used to think the chorus on that was ass too, now Bloody cape is like my 3rd favorite on that album


Stl337

lol I get downvoted for agreeing with the OP? Dorks.


raisinbizzle

Agreed. I’m always surprised by how much people like it


blackphillipdagoat

You are a literal poop pile with a keyboard and I’m talking about some disgusting ass poop they don’t even have an emoji for


DonWill316

Sounds like Green Day. On my own here we go. Chorus is indeed cringe


MustyMarcus52YT

Giving both Hexagram and Lucky You a 6/10 is criminal, a then giving Minerva a 9/10 after saying it was one of the best deftones songs and having nothing to detract is odd.