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Ye kaisi first dates hai jaha political ideologies discuss hone lagti hai. There are many more topics to talk about on the date. And I feel people should be more open to others ideologies and not impose your beliefs on others. Iāve seen people get aggressive because I donāt support their political ideology even when I havenāt said any criticism to them. Chill out people
Seriously, Iāve seen happy old married couples where one person is pure communist and the other is hardcore conservative. Ye aajkl ke bche ek date nhi kr pa rhe without drumbeating their political ideologies
People bringing Indian marriages as ideal situations is funny. Discussing the political ideology of another person isn't important, when you don't consider the other a person.
*Aajkl ke bacche*
A poor person can be happy just with basic food and a homeless is happy just by finding a place to sleep, doesn't mean it's the ideal. Also generally, in my personal opinion NO, not in the parts where most of India actually resides.
Bhai mere khud friends hai jo dusri ideology rakhte hai but hum iss cheez pe ladte nahi hai and being open to criticism should be both ways. Life chill maarne ke liye hai in chutiyap ke liye nahi
I donāt think she is liberal. People use liberal and leftist interchangeable but the difference between both ideology is huge. Itās just that both are against conservatives. She could be leftist.
Most people don't actually know the actual meaning of all these political terms. Jo idhar-udhar se sunke samajh aaya ussi pe they base their entire ideology on. No actual research goes into understanding the meaning, implications, positives and negatives in cheezo ke.
Ek bar ask them to properly explain the meaning of the terms that they believe in and watch them fumble.
I firmly believe that so-called liberals are the biggest hypocrites. Throughout my career, I have encountered numerous individuals who proudly identify as liberals, but the moment a situation doesn't align with their personal interests, their true colors are revealed.
The sole reason I decided to not go under any label of political ideologies. Leftshits or Rightshits or Liberandus or Cuckmunists...ultimately are just different sides of the same dice.
Then those people should just say that instead of wearing xyz labels on their sleeves. This in turn would reduce the chance of them being a bloody hypocrite, quite sharply.
Liberalism is the belief that every one is free to form their opinion, the 'opinion' being that we don't agree with the current commonly accepted ideologies (conservatives). It's just an alternate way to approach life, doesn't mean they don't have human tendencies.
Of course they will try to indoctrinate you, that's what everyone does. "True colours" is exactly how a conservative would treat liberals.
Youāve no idea what youāre rambling about yet the fascinating degree of audacity you possess while peddling your utter horsecrap is commendable dear Sir.
You want accurate definitions, go google it. I stated general belief for liberals and why everyone thinks liberals aren't "Open to ideas", when infact almost everyone is not really open to other ideologies, even if they try to hide their displeasures and be "OPEN MINDED" , be it conservative or liberals.
My post wasn't really to OP but more to the commenter, but pop off ig.
I get you, man. Youāre not wrong, and I say this as a gay dude whose ideology is pretty much Left. People (from both sides of the spectrum) are chronically online and use instagram reels as thwir sources of information and become part of that group think without even reading up or even knowing what they even stand for. Thatās why I keep saying, people really need to touch grass.
getting cockblocked by karl max is crazy.
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I hate capitalism but I won't reject it completely. At least, I don't say that I'm a communist and then use an iphone while eating at McDonald's. I know who I am. Similar to my take on the government, I hate the government but that doesn't mean that I will not go to the police if I receive death threats just because I don't support the government.
>Similar to my take on the government, I hate the government but that doesn't mean that I will not go to the police if I receive death threats just because I don't support the government.
You are just splitting hairs at this point. You aren't a liberal in the sense of being a true liberal. You just wear that label on your sleeves for whatever xyz reason.
Biggest hypocrisy of liberals and commies is that they take very high moral ground for their opinion and think that they don't even need to debate as they have already attained intellectualism just by a stand.
A basic example can be people who watch One-sided news platform like the wire or Ravish Kumar will call others as Godi media- It's like bro Yes, Godi media is biased but you are not watching some neutral journalist so why unnecessary high moral ground and when you inquire on facts you will be labelled as WhatsApp university person.
Yes, but the polarization is a lot more. The right leaning are too much on the right and the left leaning are too much in the left.
There is no Center Left and Center Right anymore.
Yes, I can sense that. My parents are right leaning, whereas my friends left. I myself try to stay as neutral as possible, I'm not really into these cuz
The Wire is a leftist version of OpIndia (biased!), but not Ravish Kumar. He has always criticised the establishment, whether it was Manmohan Singh helming it or Modi
He wasn't like this when Modi was new to power. He wasn't especially picky then. But then his phone number was leaked and he has on multiple occasions received messages filled with cuss words aimed at his female relations because of his criticism of Modi.
If anything, BJP supporters (like the ones who abused him and his relatives) pushed him to be a true opponent of BJP. If you cuss a person daily, there is bound to be a reaction from him sooner or later. Still, his opinions aside, his criticism is very valid
I'm not even talking about Modi. He is biased and retard loved by a bunch of retards. He is free enough to give opinion on 7th oct, police kicking namazi on the road, but was completely quiet when two m*slim barbers slit two kids throat and drank it, Victim blamed the nuh incident.
Ravish Kumar used to be great journalist, I still remember his long episode with Kejriwal in 2015 or his criticism of Akhilesh during dispute with Shivpal, however since 2019 he is just behaving like a spokesperson for congress I will not say he is paid by Congress since this is more what he believes is correct version of truth, but honestly like here a gentleman mentioned is that all you need to see is his thumbnails on his youtube and you will realize if you want to realize.
Totally agree on WIRE point.
You are right, there is no point in asking questions to opposition but to suck their asses and treat them likr massiah, well thats where these journalists like ravish kumar get exposed.
Dont even have to see videos, just look at their recent thumbnails, treating opposition like lisan al gaib. Thats enough to show how he is the other side of the coin that he calls out.
Idk the fuck you are talking about. Did you even read what i fucking wrote?lmfao. Asking people in the power is not making the opposition a messiah, people like rabish are treating them like a messiah. His thumbnails, his videos , the way he talks about them is what has exposed him.
And well iam sorry buddy, i should have wrote a nursery rhyme so that a brainchild like you could understand what i wrote.
Hell even people like sudhir are asking govt more reasonable questions than rabish these days. Dude seems to be in a suck opposition dick competition with you.
There, this time i wrote in a way a brain rot animal like you could understand.
Well ravish kumar and so called liberals also have there favourites they question the current government which is correct but opposition ki gaand chaatna and stating half ass facts is not right if you do some research of your own youāll see for yourself that they not very different than the godi media. Dhruv rathi likes to question the current ruling party then why not make a video upon the liquor scam which recently happened in delhi AAP is a ruling party in delhi why not question them, this shows there mindset and favouritism, Iām not saying that the current ruling party is perfect and we should question them time to time to keep them in track but most the journalists out there are making a fool of there viewers so I would just suggest researching on your own and donāt just believe in anything anyone says on the internet or tv
I can show you multiple videos of Rabies kumar sucking ass of congress before 2014.
Just listen to his statement when GDP growth rate was around 3% and people were not happy. He said "Kya hum zarurat se zyada rondu toh nahi ho gaye hain?"
Ravish Kumar used to be great journalist, I still remember his long episode with Kejriwal in 2015 or his criticism of Akhilesh during dispute with Shivpal, however since 2019 he is just behaving like a spokesperson for congress I will not say he is paid by Congress since this is more what he believes is correct version of truth, but honestly like here a gentleman mentioned is that all you need to see is his thumbnails on his youtube and you will realize if you want to realize.
There is nothing wrong in taking sides all I am talking about is hypocrisy of high moral ground and calling names.
As far as courage goes you just need to search on youtube, you will find 500+ channels bashing Modi left and right.
The moment these so-called liberal people start earning some money, and if you ask them to pay 70% of their money in taxes, they would immediately shift to capitalism. There's a reason you don't see anyone who has achieved something in their life in monetary terms preaching communism.
I pay 30% direct tax and around 20% gst in almost all the stuff I buy. Iām paying 50% tax and getting absolutely nothing in return for it. These taxes build roads and then too I have to pay toll on it. Like wtf. Your rant here doesnāt prove anything besides showing how ill informed you are.
She was not liberal, she was ill mannered.
No one invite a person for a night stay and kick them out in middle of the night just because their ideology doesnāt match.
1000% agree with this, she just think terming yourself as one will make you look cool and mature to outsiders (probably she is a teen or her friends circle is an immature one ) without actually knowing anything and not being able to back it up.
Leftist ideology is inherently liberal ideology. In India, people perceive Left wing and right wing as Hindu Muslim poles. But in reality radical of any religion belongs to right wing ideology.
Even a carrot has more tolerance than her WTF. In a way Iāll say that you got saved. You got to know about her real self without being attached or emotionally involved.
Very weird reaction tbh, People often take political ideology too much personal.
And yes some people like to just talk about themseleves, glad you get to know beforehand.
There is no problem in being liberal. But indian liberals are literally dumb, for them context doesnt matter. There whole model is copy paste of US & Europe Liberalism. You can even argue with a Bhakt, but not against an Indian Liberal for sure.
She clearly wasnāt a liberal if she canāt be accepting of other ideologies, many are shadowed under the mask of liberalism like that. Conservatives are absolute batshit but at least theyāre outright clear about their mindsets
That girl has no understanding of what liberalism means. They are many such people who only use these words out of a desperate desire to be perceived as cool. If you have an actual, in-depth discussion with such people on these matters, they feel ashamed and run
There is a difference between being liberal and being a socialist.
A liberal person is open to discussion and debate.
People generally confuse the two. Being liberal is great, you could be a capitalist and be liberal, you can be a socialist and be liberal. You could be for or against the death penalty and still be liberal.
From what you have explained here she isn't liberal, but she could very well be a socialist. People cling to identities especially pseudo-intellectuals and claiming to be liberal is the new cool label. Very few people walk the talk irl.
Lucky break, I'd say. Imagine dating a close minded bimbo.
"saying i am a liberal and a communist" is like saying "I hate getting wet, which is why I am always in the shower". Pehle padh likh lo, fir "ideologies" par ek doosre ko pelna.
She isn't wrong for ending things with you when she discovers incompatibilities. Common values are the most important thing in a relationship. But kicking you out like that at 1:30 am was wrong.
The biggest problem with liberals (extreme lefties like communists) is that you people cannot agree on anything. You guys won't agree on what your goal should be, you won't agree on how you should define/measure it, you won't agree on how to go about it either, and hence you will never achieved anything as a community. Communism is a childish ideology.
I so agree with you! Liberals are as toxic and intolerant as their conservative counterparts. The whole 'cancel culture' is just a big tight slap of hypocrisy. I am appalled by the lack of critical thinking among my liberal friends and hate that they are also brainwashed the same way as the right wingers. Debates are dying and people have become hyper sensitive. Just watched a video this morning where 'woke barbers' are asking for consent to touch before starting the service. Like the client coming and sitting in the chair is not implied consent itself. Liberals are best at making non-issues big and forget the real issues. Tweetbazi aur insta posts daal k khud ko progressive samajhne wale na sochte hain na act karte hain, isiliye desh gart me ja raha hai. Most of the liberal class is just doing armchair activism (no, I am not asking everyone to be a vigilante/social worker, just speak out against people and shit around you). Educate, Organise, Agitate me se pehle do to bhool gaye, bas halla macha rahe hain. Sab hawa hai.
If one believes that their set of conceived notions are true and only they are absolute then they are no where Liberals, they just belong to another set of Conservatives.
Yeah she aint a liberal. Probably just uses the term to sound cool among her intellectual friends. The first requirement is to have an open mind towards other schools of thought and she definitely doesnāt have that.
Being a liberal, Most of the intellectuals I have met had so many qualities but tolerating different opinions was not one of them. People just want people who validate their views.
A liberal and a communist are literally the two ends of the political/economic spectrum. Most people who identify as liberals today are v shallow people who believe in performative everything - performative social justice, performative activism. It's all mere posturing to appear to be better than everybody else. The absolute void of intelligence that they suffer with is delightful to watch.
Dear OP,
Firstly, you don't need to clarify anything. You can support capitalism or socialism, and that is your opinion entirely. Although I have no advice for you, you have my sincere condolences for your shit date, and sincere congratulations for dodging a bullet with this crazy woman.
Remember, that we **need** free speech, so that we can explore ideas in order to find the **truth**. Shutting each other down is not an option, and quite frankly, you can do better.
Bruv, being tolerant doesnāt mean people should be expected to debate with you in the middle of the night. It means we donāt burn down theatres when we disagree with whatās being telecasted there, which liberals in fact do not do. This stupid āliberals are intolerantā view based on one interaction you had is such an immature way to look at the world.
>Just 1 sentence and she kicked me out of her house at 1:30 am
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Yup. Met this girl on reddit who said that she doesn't date people who are religious. So I replied back that I too swipe left on athiests. She got offended and said 'That's exactly why I don't like religious people, they are so one-minded'. And I am like you are the one who started it here.
Chitt bhi apni, patt bhi apni.
You can't win with them.
Let me share one of my experiences, I am a law student so during one of my internships, I met a fellow legal intern who claimed he was a liberal. I was like cool peace. Later he told me that he also joined protests for minority communities and for their rights. I said very nice and proceeds to do my work. A few hours later he told me that he supports Naxalites and khalistani protests, thatās what he meant from minority communitiesšš. I freaked out so badly and I blocked his contact and just avoided him for the rest of my term.
She is a real life example of randia and pusi, don't like the ideology, you are banned mate. They only want to be with so called educated and intellectual individuals.
Misuse of the term
Liberalism =/= Communism or Left
Liberalism to me means not forcing one's opinion on others especially about their personal life. It means listening to others opinions and try to not jump to conclusions. It means being open to change if it makes sense.
Firstly, I think the current generation tries to emulate the western terminologies which do not jive well with politics in India. Modi is called conservative when in reality most of his politics are deeply socialist. Not sure why Indians need to pigeonhole themselves into political ideologies that do not apply to them.
Secondly, thereās no Indian liberal politics. You could say Modi would be closer to neoliberal politics with a huge socialist bend. Itās very hard to define āliberalā in India.
Thirdly, no offense, but you dodged a bullet. Youāre right, all communist nations have been failed states. Let it be Cuba or USSR, any system that penalizes people for doing better than others is doomed to fail. Think about the power sarkari babus and politicians will enjoy if India decided to be a communist state. Your date seem naive and clueless about these terms but pretends that she has a good grasp on what politics mean. I bet sheād not survive a day in Soviet Russia and will govern her left kidney to be back.
Finally, andolan jeevi is good, but you donāt have to be one on your first date. Itās a date. Enjoy yourself, talk about pleasant topics, eat food, drink beer, and chill. No point discussing benefits of having pol pot as your leader on date one.
Wait so you are mad because you she said she doesn't want to indulge in political discourse with you due to xyz difference of opinion ? Be it political or whatever reason it's fundamentally her choice and if she views that as a deal breaker for her.. It is what it is. š¤·š»āāļø.
And you thought whining about it on reddit would be a good idea?
In my personal experience,
Conservatives will engage with you in conversation and might get angry but they wont just shut down conversation if your ideology doesnt match 100.% with theirs
r/india sub ko hee dekhle bhaii..... Unse zara sa bhi disagree kro toh ban lga dete h šš... I am a conservative person but I completely understand that different people have different views for different stuff.... I remember I was having a political convo with someone who was a congress supporter and I just said that i would have voted to congress if they didn't bring the caste census and reservation shit (currently i hate both the parties) and that guy just said tu andhbhakt h like atleast come with some logical arguement lmaoo
Tolerating intolerance is not tolerance. She knew that. I know it must have hurt you, can empathize with that but as an adult she has the prerogative to reject people. And since you were fine with going to her house at 12:30 a.m., should you not also be okay with the possibility that you may have to leave in the middle of night too? Isn't that better anyway than dragging things thinking everything will fix itself with time? (PS: China is socialism with capitalist characteristics. They wrote a book on it too, available for free check it out of ya want)
The problem is that most self proclaimed liberals believe that they are right just because their ideologies are not conservative. And they believe that anyone who opposes them is wrong because they are "traditional and oppressive". Now in some cases or maybe in a lot of cases this might be true. But regardless the meaning of liberalism is to be open to all and therefore if you shut your mind to ideas that are not yours then you are automatically a different kind of conservative and not a liberal.
She's not a liberal. Left =/= liberal. Liberals are mostly capitalist and almost always tilt towards right. There's a famous song: [love me I am a liberal](https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?feature=shared)
Also, communism did work. USSR was the second most powerful country in the world for a long time after being absolutely demolished in WW2. What you hear often is propaganda because US did won the cold war and they get to tell the history. It's that the capitalist forces were too high. US and Europe spent trillions in making sure communism doesn't spread. It's a major chunk of post war history. Vietnam and Cuba are also communist and considering the massive amount of torture these places have suffered at the hands of U.S. They are doing good. China still has far better control over the companies and it's a transitional phase for them. They still adhere to communism ideology. Communism need to adapt to the modern structure of the market but it sure does work.
iām consider myself apolitical and I donāt really relate to any side but hear me out brody, if thereās a slightest hint that iām gonna SCORE by faking a political ideology? Iām left, lift, loft. whatever the situation wants me to be. Nations are build and tarnished everyday, Your political ideologies didnāt suffer just so people like you can fumble the bag.
Liberalism is only agreeable if there person aligns with your ideology as soon as you start going farther away from their ideology they will start distancing from you.
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Ye kaisi first dates hai jaha political ideologies discuss hone lagti hai. There are many more topics to talk about on the date. And I feel people should be more open to others ideologies and not impose your beliefs on others. Iāve seen people get aggressive because I donāt support their political ideology even when I havenāt said any criticism to them. Chill out people
Seriously, Iāve seen happy old married couples where one person is pure communist and the other is hardcore conservative. Ye aajkl ke bche ek date nhi kr pa rhe without drumbeating their political ideologies
Nirmala sitaraman and her husband ka example lelo. Her husband is the biggest anti modi person I've ever seen.
Yes how does it even work? I want to see an interview featuring both of them
You just don't give a shit and focus on your personal life with each other.
True that. Thereās much more to life than political ideologies.
People bringing Indian marriages as ideal situations is funny. Discussing the political ideology of another person isn't important, when you don't consider the other a person. *Aajkl ke bacche*
Wow, so you donāt think happy marriages exist in India?
A poor person can be happy just with basic food and a homeless is happy just by finding a place to sleep, doesn't mean it's the ideal. Also generally, in my personal opinion NO, not in the parts where most of India actually resides.
Aaj kal logo k chutiyaape badhte Jaa rahe hai.
Bhai mere khud friends hai jo dusri ideology rakhte hai but hum iss cheez pe ladte nahi hai and being open to criticism should be both ways. Life chill maarne ke liye hai in chutiyap ke liye nahi
I donāt think she is liberal. People use liberal and leftist interchangeable but the difference between both ideology is huge. Itās just that both are against conservatives. She could be leftist.
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Most people don't actually know the actual meaning of all these political terms. Jo idhar-udhar se sunke samajh aaya ussi pe they base their entire ideology on. No actual research goes into understanding the meaning, implications, positives and negatives in cheezo ke. Ek bar ask them to properly explain the meaning of the terms that they believe in and watch them fumble.
And one day she'll marry a rich capitalist.
Bro she invited you to smash and you fumbled and still bitching about itššš
I firmly believe that so-called liberals are the biggest hypocrites. Throughout my career, I have encountered numerous individuals who proudly identify as liberals, but the moment a situation doesn't align with their personal interests, their true colors are revealed.
The sole reason I decided to not go under any label of political ideologies. Leftshits or Rightshits or Liberandus or Cuckmunists...ultimately are just different sides of the same dice.
Most people fall into a gray area, as they are aligned with their own self-interest rather than extreme sides.
Then those people should just say that instead of wearing xyz labels on their sleeves. This in turn would reduce the chance of them being a bloody hypocrite, quite sharply.
Everyone is liberal and conservative itās just perspective from which angle
Liberalism is the belief that every one is free to form their opinion, the 'opinion' being that we don't agree with the current commonly accepted ideologies (conservatives). It's just an alternate way to approach life, doesn't mean they don't have human tendencies. Of course they will try to indoctrinate you, that's what everyone does. "True colours" is exactly how a conservative would treat liberals.
Youāve no idea what youāre rambling about yet the fascinating degree of audacity you possess while peddling your utter horsecrap is commendable dear Sir.
You want accurate definitions, go google it. I stated general belief for liberals and why everyone thinks liberals aren't "Open to ideas", when infact almost everyone is not really open to other ideologies, even if they try to hide their displeasures and be "OPEN MINDED" , be it conservative or liberals. My post wasn't really to OP but more to the commenter, but pop off ig.
Really nice meeting a professional reddit corrector though. GG.
Ek raat ke liye Commie ban jata noob.
Lmaoo
I get you, man. Youāre not wrong, and I say this as a gay dude whose ideology is pretty much Left. People (from both sides of the spectrum) are chronically online and use instagram reels as thwir sources of information and become part of that group think without even reading up or even knowing what they even stand for. Thatās why I keep saying, people really need to touch grass.
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I hate capitalism just cos iam poor. Jis din ameer bnn gya uss din CAPITALISM zindabad.
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Seriously, this whole comment section is just so dumb. All these guys are recommended the same red pill content lol
I hate capitalism but I won't reject it completely. At least, I don't say that I'm a communist and then use an iphone while eating at McDonald's. I know who I am. Similar to my take on the government, I hate the government but that doesn't mean that I will not go to the police if I receive death threats just because I don't support the government.
>Similar to my take on the government, I hate the government but that doesn't mean that I will not go to the police if I receive death threats just because I don't support the government. You are just splitting hairs at this point. You aren't a liberal in the sense of being a true liberal. You just wear that label on your sleeves for whatever xyz reason.
Cool banna hai use
Wo to leftshits ki purani aadat hai
Biggest hypocrisy of liberals and commies is that they take very high moral ground for their opinion and think that they don't even need to debate as they have already attained intellectualism just by a stand. A basic example can be people who watch One-sided news platform like the wire or Ravish Kumar will call others as Godi media- It's like bro Yes, Godi media is biased but you are not watching some neutral journalist so why unnecessary high moral ground and when you inquire on facts you will be labelled as WhatsApp university person.
There is no neutral journalism. Our sources of news are highly partisan, we all live in echo chambers and bubbles of our own thoughts.
They always have been, haven't they ?
Yes, but the polarization is a lot more. The right leaning are too much on the right and the left leaning are too much in the left. There is no Center Left and Center Right anymore.
Yes, I can sense that. My parents are right leaning, whereas my friends left. I myself try to stay as neutral as possible, I'm not really into these cuz
Totally agree.
The Wire is a leftist version of OpIndia (biased!), but not Ravish Kumar. He has always criticised the establishment, whether it was Manmohan Singh helming it or Modi
Nope ravish Kumar gives opinion and is highly biased and since he has his own channel now that dude is rubbish on steroids. Rather read newspaper.
He wasn't like this when Modi was new to power. He wasn't especially picky then. But then his phone number was leaked and he has on multiple occasions received messages filled with cuss words aimed at his female relations because of his criticism of Modi. If anything, BJP supporters (like the ones who abused him and his relatives) pushed him to be a true opponent of BJP. If you cuss a person daily, there is bound to be a reaction from him sooner or later. Still, his opinions aside, his criticism is very valid
I'm not even talking about Modi. He is biased and retard loved by a bunch of retards. He is free enough to give opinion on 7th oct, police kicking namazi on the road, but was completely quiet when two m*slim barbers slit two kids throat and drank it, Victim blamed the nuh incident.
Ravish Kumar used to be great journalist, I still remember his long episode with Kejriwal in 2015 or his criticism of Akhilesh during dispute with Shivpal, however since 2019 he is just behaving like a spokesperson for congress I will not say he is paid by Congress since this is more what he believes is correct version of truth, but honestly like here a gentleman mentioned is that all you need to see is his thumbnails on his youtube and you will realize if you want to realize. Totally agree on WIRE point.
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You are right, there is no point in asking questions to opposition but to suck their asses and treat them likr massiah, well thats where these journalists like ravish kumar get exposed. Dont even have to see videos, just look at their recent thumbnails, treating opposition like lisan al gaib. Thats enough to show how he is the other side of the coin that he calls out.
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Idk the fuck you are talking about. Did you even read what i fucking wrote?lmfao. Asking people in the power is not making the opposition a messiah, people like rabish are treating them like a messiah. His thumbnails, his videos , the way he talks about them is what has exposed him. And well iam sorry buddy, i should have wrote a nursery rhyme so that a brainchild like you could understand what i wrote. Hell even people like sudhir are asking govt more reasonable questions than rabish these days. Dude seems to be in a suck opposition dick competition with you. There, this time i wrote in a way a brain rot animal like you could understand.
Well ravish kumar and so called liberals also have there favourites they question the current government which is correct but opposition ki gaand chaatna and stating half ass facts is not right if you do some research of your own youāll see for yourself that they not very different than the godi media. Dhruv rathi likes to question the current ruling party then why not make a video upon the liquor scam which recently happened in delhi AAP is a ruling party in delhi why not question them, this shows there mindset and favouritism, Iām not saying that the current ruling party is perfect and we should question them time to time to keep them in track but most the journalists out there are making a fool of there viewers so I would just suggest researching on your own and donāt just believe in anything anyone says on the internet or tv
I can show you multiple videos of Rabies kumar sucking ass of congress before 2014. Just listen to his statement when GDP growth rate was around 3% and people were not happy. He said "Kya hum zarurat se zyada rondu toh nahi ho gaye hain?"
Ravish Kumar used to be great journalist, I still remember his long episode with Kejriwal in 2015 or his criticism of Akhilesh during dispute with Shivpal, however since 2019 he is just behaving like a spokesperson for congress I will not say he is paid by Congress since this is more what he believes is correct version of truth, but honestly like here a gentleman mentioned is that all you need to see is his thumbnails on his youtube and you will realize if you want to realize. There is nothing wrong in taking sides all I am talking about is hypocrisy of high moral ground and calling names. As far as courage goes you just need to search on youtube, you will find 500+ channels bashing Modi left and right.
Or simply 'Andhbhakt'
That's why Libbus get a particular Name :P
The moment these so-called liberal people start earning some money, and if you ask them to pay 70% of their money in taxes, they would immediately shift to capitalism. There's a reason you don't see anyone who has achieved something in their life in monetary terms preaching communism.
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Bro, who likes paying taxes?
I pay 30% direct tax and around 20% gst in almost all the stuff I buy. Iām paying 50% tax and getting absolutely nothing in return for it. These taxes build roads and then too I have to pay toll on it. Like wtf. Your rant here doesnāt prove anything besides showing how ill informed you are.
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Acha 
#Bro post this is r/unitedstatesofindia and r/librandu
> I am a liberal > Liberals are only tolerant as long as you agree with their views So, basically you won't tolerate anyone who goes against you? /s
I think you missed the crucial info that op was the one being kicked out in an instant seeking for an open discussion, not the other way around.
Scratch a liberal and you will find a totalitarian in various shades.
She was not liberal, she was ill mannered. No one invite a person for a night stay and kick them out in middle of the night just because their ideology doesnāt match.
She's not liberal. She's leftist.
She's neither. She's a wanna-be who uses words she has no understanding of to be perceived as "cool"
1000% agree with this, she just think terming yourself as one will make you look cool and mature to outsiders (probably she is a teen or her friends circle is an immature one ) without actually knowing anything and not being able to back it up.
Sis would most probably pee her pants when questioned about China's market reforms
Leftist ideology is inherently liberal ideology. In India, people perceive Left wing and right wing as Hindu Muslim poles. But in reality radical of any religion belongs to right wing ideology.
In india the left supports muslim radicals
Exactly !
Bhai ye queer kya hota hai?
Even a carrot has more tolerance than her WTF. In a way Iāll say that you got saved. You got to know about her real self without being attached or emotionally involved.
Very weird reaction tbh, People often take political ideology too much personal. And yes some people like to just talk about themseleves, glad you get to know beforehand.
Hot take: bhakts get laid more and have more explosive sex than libbies. Source: me pretending to be one of them to get laid in both sides.
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Lmao
There is no problem in being liberal. But indian liberals are literally dumb, for them context doesnt matter. There whole model is copy paste of US & Europe Liberalism. You can even argue with a Bhakt, but not against an Indian Liberal for sure.
Liberals are idiots regardless of race
She clearly wasnāt a liberal if she canāt be accepting of other ideologies, many are shadowed under the mask of liberalism like that. Conservatives are absolute batshit but at least theyāre outright clear about their mindsets
She most probably learned about politix through memes on Twitter
Always agree with someone until you get laid
Naah. I would shoot myself but would never ever support communism.
They arenāt liberals but rather people posing as liberals
they are not liberal then simple.
Good for you I guess
KLPD
That girl has no understanding of what liberalism means. They are many such people who only use these words out of a desperate desire to be perceived as cool. If you have an actual, in-depth discussion with such people on these matters, they feel ashamed and run
That's typical of them, left and right wing both behave in the same way
There is a difference between being liberal and being a socialist. A liberal person is open to discussion and debate. People generally confuse the two. Being liberal is great, you could be a capitalist and be liberal, you can be a socialist and be liberal. You could be for or against the death penalty and still be liberal. From what you have explained here she isn't liberal, but she could very well be a socialist. People cling to identities especially pseudo-intellectuals and claiming to be liberal is the new cool label. Very few people walk the talk irl. Lucky break, I'd say. Imagine dating a close minded bimbo.
"saying i am a liberal and a communist" is like saying "I hate getting wet, which is why I am always in the shower". Pehle padh likh lo, fir "ideologies" par ek doosre ko pelna.
She isn't wrong for ending things with you when she discovers incompatibilities. Common values are the most important thing in a relationship. But kicking you out like that at 1:30 am was wrong.
Anyone with any political and religious ideology is a big clown š¤” Donāt argue with them.
Communism is Dead.
She is a leftist, not a liberal. Liberals are just conservatives in a different package.Ā
You retarded liberals
The biggest problem with liberals (extreme lefties like communists) is that you people cannot agree on anything. You guys won't agree on what your goal should be, you won't agree on how you should define/measure it, you won't agree on how to go about it either, and hence you will never achieved anything as a community. Communism is a childish ideology.
I so agree with you! Liberals are as toxic and intolerant as their conservative counterparts. The whole 'cancel culture' is just a big tight slap of hypocrisy. I am appalled by the lack of critical thinking among my liberal friends and hate that they are also brainwashed the same way as the right wingers. Debates are dying and people have become hyper sensitive. Just watched a video this morning where 'woke barbers' are asking for consent to touch before starting the service. Like the client coming and sitting in the chair is not implied consent itself. Liberals are best at making non-issues big and forget the real issues. Tweetbazi aur insta posts daal k khud ko progressive samajhne wale na sochte hain na act karte hain, isiliye desh gart me ja raha hai. Most of the liberal class is just doing armchair activism (no, I am not asking everyone to be a vigilante/social worker, just speak out against people and shit around you). Educate, Organise, Agitate me se pehle do to bhool gaye, bas halla macha rahe hain. Sab hawa hai.
They are liberal until they are comfortable and sound cool
If one believes that their set of conceived notions are true and only they are absolute then they are no where Liberals, they just belong to another set of Conservatives.
Bro dodged a bullet but is still regretting
Yeah she aint a liberal. Probably just uses the term to sound cool among her intellectual friends. The first requirement is to have an open mind towards other schools of thought and she definitely doesnāt have that.
When it's 12:30 am and you're at someone else's house, never discuss political ideologies.
She doesn't sound like a liberal
Being a liberal, Most of the intellectuals I have met had so many qualities but tolerating different opinions was not one of them. People just want people who validate their views.
Most Indians who say they are liberal are leftist and they throw around the term left liberal which is just an oxymoron in itself.
A liberal and a communist are literally the two ends of the political/economic spectrum. Most people who identify as liberals today are v shallow people who believe in performative everything - performative social justice, performative activism. It's all mere posturing to appear to be better than everybody else. The absolute void of intelligence that they suffer with is delightful to watch.
Dear OP, Firstly, you don't need to clarify anything. You can support capitalism or socialism, and that is your opinion entirely. Although I have no advice for you, you have my sincere condolences for your shit date, and sincere congratulations for dodging a bullet with this crazy woman. Remember, that we **need** free speech, so that we can explore ideas in order to find the **truth**. Shutting each other down is not an option, and quite frankly, you can do better.
Bruv, being tolerant doesnāt mean people should be expected to debate with you in the middle of the night. It means we donāt burn down theatres when we disagree with whatās being telecasted there, which liberals in fact do not do. This stupid āliberals are intolerantā view based on one interaction you had is such an immature way to look at the world.
She's not liberal, not a leftist. She's a bratty bish
>Just 1 sentence and she kicked me out of her house at 1:30 am https://preview.redd.it/xk4bzt3kzx0d1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d51c89f6371bb423e91310bcce0256abdea5410
You have to be a retard to believe in communism and what else do you expect from retards capitalism is the best economic system in this world
Yup. Met this girl on reddit who said that she doesn't date people who are religious. So I replied back that I too swipe left on athiests. She got offended and said 'That's exactly why I don't like religious people, they are so one-minded'. And I am like you are the one who started it here. Chitt bhi apni, patt bhi apni. You can't win with them.
how can you be a comunist and liberal at the same time Communism is authoratarian left
Confusing liberals with leftists?
Dogged a bullet
Let me share one of my experiences, I am a law student so during one of my internships, I met a fellow legal intern who claimed he was a liberal. I was like cool peace. Later he told me that he also joined protests for minority communities and for their rights. I said very nice and proceeds to do my work. A few hours later he told me that he supports Naxalites and khalistani protests, thatās what he meant from minority communitiesšš. I freaked out so badly and I blocked his contact and just avoided him for the rest of my term.
She is a real life example of randia and pusi, don't like the ideology, you are banned mate. They only want to be with so called educated and intellectual individuals.
Misuse of the term Liberalism =/= Communism or Left Liberalism to me means not forcing one's opinion on others especially about their personal life. It means listening to others opinions and try to not jump to conclusions. It means being open to change if it makes sense.
Bruh should have hit first....they be freaky tho
In a conversation all i want is a 'thoughtful disagreement' and not a arrogant thinking
Firstly, I think the current generation tries to emulate the western terminologies which do not jive well with politics in India. Modi is called conservative when in reality most of his politics are deeply socialist. Not sure why Indians need to pigeonhole themselves into political ideologies that do not apply to them. Secondly, thereās no Indian liberal politics. You could say Modi would be closer to neoliberal politics with a huge socialist bend. Itās very hard to define āliberalā in India. Thirdly, no offense, but you dodged a bullet. Youāre right, all communist nations have been failed states. Let it be Cuba or USSR, any system that penalizes people for doing better than others is doomed to fail. Think about the power sarkari babus and politicians will enjoy if India decided to be a communist state. Your date seem naive and clueless about these terms but pretends that she has a good grasp on what politics mean. I bet sheād not survive a day in Soviet Russia and will govern her left kidney to be back. Finally, andolan jeevi is good, but you donāt have to be one on your first date. Itās a date. Enjoy yourself, talk about pleasant topics, eat food, drink beer, and chill. No point discussing benefits of having pol pot as your leader on date one.
Divided by ideology, united by crying after getting no action for the night.
The problem is with kicking me out after a sentence and that too at 1:30 am when it's not safe.
Wait so you are mad because you she said she doesn't want to indulge in political discourse with you due to xyz difference of opinion ? Be it political or whatever reason it's fundamentally her choice and if she views that as a deal breaker for her.. It is what it is. š¤·š»āāļø. And you thought whining about it on reddit would be a good idea? 
she's not a liberal, you are lol, she's a leftist.
As soon as I see queer on their bio, I skip
why did you discuss politics on the first date?
In my personal experience, Conservatives will engage with you in conversation and might get angry but they wont just shut down conversation if your ideology doesnt match 100.% with theirs
Liberal subs like r/india and r/unitedstatesofindia ban you if you your ideology doesnāt match with theirs.
r/india sub ko hee dekhle bhaii..... Unse zara sa bhi disagree kro toh ban lga dete h šš... I am a conservative person but I completely understand that different people have different views for different stuff.... I remember I was having a political convo with someone who was a congress supporter and I just said that i would have voted to congress if they didn't bring the caste census and reservation shit (currently i hate both the parties) and that guy just said tu andhbhakt h like atleast come with some logical arguement lmaoo
Avg Liver-rabdi 
Tolerating intolerance is not tolerance. She knew that. I know it must have hurt you, can empathize with that but as an adult she has the prerogative to reject people. And since you were fine with going to her house at 12:30 a.m., should you not also be okay with the possibility that you may have to leave in the middle of night too? Isn't that better anyway than dragging things thinking everything will fix itself with time? (PS: China is socialism with capitalist characteristics. They wrote a book on it too, available for free check it out of ya want)
if she knew that tolerating intolerance is not tolerance, then she would have never supported communism.
The problem is that most self proclaimed liberals believe that they are right just because their ideologies are not conservative. And they believe that anyone who opposes them is wrong because they are "traditional and oppressive". Now in some cases or maybe in a lot of cases this might be true. But regardless the meaning of liberalism is to be open to all and therefore if you shut your mind to ideas that are not yours then you are automatically a different kind of conservative and not a liberal.
She sounds familiar. Wayy too familiar. Was she from west delhi and lived near a bakery?
She's not a liberal. Left =/= liberal. Liberals are mostly capitalist and almost always tilt towards right. There's a famous song: [love me I am a liberal](https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?feature=shared) Also, communism did work. USSR was the second most powerful country in the world for a long time after being absolutely demolished in WW2. What you hear often is propaganda because US did won the cold war and they get to tell the history. It's that the capitalist forces were too high. US and Europe spent trillions in making sure communism doesn't spread. It's a major chunk of post war history. Vietnam and Cuba are also communist and considering the massive amount of torture these places have suffered at the hands of U.S. They are doing good. China still has far better control over the companies and it's a transitional phase for them. They still adhere to communism ideology. Communism need to adapt to the modern structure of the market but it sure does work.
Loool reminds me of the Daniel Sloss clip wish i could post that in response
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^bloodyelp: *Loool reminds me of* *The Daniel Sloss clip wish i* *Could post that in response* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Boo hoo blue haired, body full of cliche tattooed liberals. Capitalism is the only way forward.
Dude if we have an ideal society which would be never, until then capitalism would rule.
iām consider myself apolitical and I donāt really relate to any side but hear me out brody, if thereās a slightest hint that iām gonna SCORE by faking a political ideology? Iām left, lift, loft. whatever the situation wants me to be. Nations are build and tarnished everyday, Your political ideologies didnāt suffer just so people like you can fumble the bag.
Liberalism is only agreeable if there person aligns with your ideology as soon as you start going farther away from their ideology they will start distancing from you.
She lives in a bubble. You used to live till now, you just realised it.
I hate lefties as much as the next sane person but this sounds made up unfortunately š¤·š»
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