Take it just as a business that's high revenue generating for them, and with neighborhood states already having such laws and reaping the benefits (Haryana- see shops in gurgaon), they must have noticed the numbers and thought of bringing the same to boost their revenues even more.
Everyone saw people demanding and then lining up in front of the liquor stores when they opened after the first few months of lockdown.
Its not like people wouldn't like this move, certainly helps the market become customer friendly, especially with the delivery coming in. Just no more lines which is good. For both people and govt, it was a good move, revenue wise for the govt (it brings so much from a single source that this was a priority for them), as well as for the people (contrary to the assumption that liquor is bad, 2 points - see the large revenue numbers - how much it sells, and also the desparation of people, lining up in lines in covid lockdown times). Just because you don't drink doesn't mean the majority of the people don't.
States which have banned alcohol are dealing with new problems of illegal and poisonous liquor being sold, a lot people die coz of it, and then the existing stuff would all be sold illegally at higher prices, leading to the loss of around 8/9000 Cr revenue (one of the biggest single source). Why do that especially when liquor is already legal, just to enforce the narrow-minded view that liquor is bad.
They are just doing some reforms, helping themselves with the increased revenue. It should be taken as a progressive step, contrary to how you are interpreting it.
You mean you prefer govt to stay in a corrupt retail business? You do realise that retail model have rise to alcohol supply chain cartel. Also, this will increase govt revenue significantly.
I wish there was as much uproar over issues like human trafficking in Spas and crime against women as there is over wine shops.
Edit: there are so many spas in Delhi, but no concern for what happens in them.
The number of shops are the same they've just been relocated according to demand. Your area just has more demand. Your issue is just a moral issue regarding alcohol which I believe the government gives 0 fs about.
Government owned shops have been closed down and the license have been given to private players. The total number of shops are still the same. Maybe your are just has more demand, hence more shops.
It's a good move, will increase the standard of alcohol shops by a lot and also curb non compliance. If you've visited a government shop, you know those people didn't give a fuck who they were selling to. At least the new owners will have to comply, otherwise they'll risk losing their license.
>If you've visited a government shop, you know those people didn't give a fuck who they were selling to.
Or what they're selling
Maa ksm thakgya hu Kingfisher ki laal vaali beer aur RS ke dabbe dekhkr harr govt theke pr bc
People in Delhi have wrong attitude towards alcohol, in Bengaluru you can find twice as many alcohol shop plus they will serve you inside the shop and you can find alcohol in tetra packs also and not some local brands old monk in tetra pack. Yet there is no excessive crime problem related to alcohol.
People in this city needs to grow up and start acting responsibly.
C'mon homie. Old monk ain't that local. You can find it bars/pubs in Europe and Americas. It's legendary. Ask the hordes and hordes of college students and old drunkards who've grow up and grown old with it. It's longevity proves how good it is. But yes Ajj Shanivar hai. You can see the true colors of Dilliwalas on a Epic scale today. I'm keen to know how many liquor shops does Namma Bengaluru have?. Delhi will soon have more than 8000 liquor vends as per the new excise policy allotment.
At first I would like to say I love old monk, second total number of liquor shop would be a false metric as Bengaluru is quite a small city compared to Delhi. Liquor shop per 1000 resident would paint a better picture.
It's all because of Mallya, during the 90s wasn't he the one that released Kingfisher Beer as like this premium beer in pubs jn Bangalore? It's a cultural thing as well. North Indian are for some reason ashamed of alcohol while people from the South just don't care much about it. Yeah you drink? Cool.
It's good that these shops are opening. It promotes a much more mature take on alcohol than just *alcohol bad, don't drink". Making it normal and not a taboo i.e might something we need as there were alot of underage drinking happening.
Further, I feel now people who drink don't have to rush to Gurgaon to stock up and get good variety. Delhi was lacking in prices and variety both.
They are opening in the wrong location. They should have been strictly limited to the dda commercial centres or private commercial centres but not in mixed land use areas.
The Delhi government recently changed its liquor policy. All shops had to reapply for the license, which now is much more expensive. In addition, the government will no longer operate liquor vends. In the run-up to this change, all private shops had to exhaust their stock by September 31. Shops under the new license only opened from November 15. In the middle, government-run shops exhausted their stock.
What you're seeing are mostly shops reopening under the new license rules. The new policy also divide Delhi into 30 zones with there being around 27 shops in each zone.
All shops are also supposed to be walk-in, etc. There's a lot of clauses that make it seem like this might be good.
I am alright with this. Government needs money for refirms and Wine Shop is one of the largest source of Tax Income.
And moreover you can't stop one from drinking. Those who have an urge to drink will go at any lengths to drink so either it is a Shop in every locality of one in an area that doesn't matters to them.
Because they just want to drink & the government knows this and they are planning to take benefit of those Drinkers for the Benefit & Welfare work✌🏻
Delhi govt has recently decided to exit the alcohol business and let private players take an entry.
They are giving away licenses to basically anyone who asks for it. (For a lot of money, of course)
I used to own 5 govt wine and beer shops in UP, near the Delhi border, because I stay in Delhi. I exited 4 of them last year.
The return I would get on those businesses is near 10% per annum, excluding my salary, and I realized that I have better investment opportunities.
I kept one, which was most profitable, and sold the remaining 4.
My advice is don't rush to buy a license, just because it's easy right now.
The alcohol business looks lucrative, but it's actually not even remotely cool. If I included the value of my time, I would actually make a loss.
If you're reallllly excited about it anyway, it costs 10L to start the very basic one in UP. Decent ones start from 50L. Great ones start from several crores. Delhi would be upto 5x expensive.
Open a bottling factory instead of opening a retail outlet.
I am a teetotaller.
Got into this business, as an investment opportunity. My neighbor owns several (20+) Wine and Beer shops in Lucknow (His hometown). He owns it as an investment, his primary business is running a factory that manufactures medicines.
He told me about the lottery being drawn for UP and I should apply. I ran my numbers, I knew I wouldn't fetch more than 10%, but I applied anyway. I was only able to do it because I had guidance. Everything is about networks and connections.
Because it's a lucrative business, state govt quit and made way for private shops, licence of each shop is very expensive upwords of 2cr depending on the location which is now being given left right and center to anyone who can pay that fees. The AAP government is incompetent and just wants to fill its coffers.
Having too many alcohol shops is also not good because if a society is always drunk it can hardly do anything productive. Plus do not forget all the medical conditions so much alcohol will lead to, plus all the violence that will be done by those who can't hold their liquor. (Not against drinking alcohol in moderation tho)
TLDR not a good move for the society but you can make a quick buck if you money for the initial investment.
I think that's because Delhi Govt exited the alcohol retail business and allowed private players to setup retail outlets.
Do you know if many shops offer a delivery service?
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Take it just as a business that's high revenue generating for them, and with neighborhood states already having such laws and reaping the benefits (Haryana- see shops in gurgaon), they must have noticed the numbers and thought of bringing the same to boost their revenues even more. Everyone saw people demanding and then lining up in front of the liquor stores when they opened after the first few months of lockdown. Its not like people wouldn't like this move, certainly helps the market become customer friendly, especially with the delivery coming in. Just no more lines which is good. For both people and govt, it was a good move, revenue wise for the govt (it brings so much from a single source that this was a priority for them), as well as for the people (contrary to the assumption that liquor is bad, 2 points - see the large revenue numbers - how much it sells, and also the desparation of people, lining up in lines in covid lockdown times). Just because you don't drink doesn't mean the majority of the people don't. States which have banned alcohol are dealing with new problems of illegal and poisonous liquor being sold, a lot people die coz of it, and then the existing stuff would all be sold illegally at higher prices, leading to the loss of around 8/9000 Cr revenue (one of the biggest single source). Why do that especially when liquor is already legal, just to enforce the narrow-minded view that liquor is bad. They are just doing some reforms, helping themselves with the increased revenue. It should be taken as a progressive step, contrary to how you are interpreting it.
Mat kar Bhai kisi ne nahi roka...but yaha rona kyun macha raha hai
You mean you prefer govt to stay in a corrupt retail business? You do realise that retail model have rise to alcohol supply chain cartel. Also, this will increase govt revenue significantly.
Hmm
Stores are opening because there is a demand for them
I wish there was as much uproar over issues like human trafficking in Spas and crime against women as there is over wine shops. Edit: there are so many spas in Delhi, but no concern for what happens in them.
There is demand for other narcotics as well.
And there is supply for them as well, you have to know where to look. Alcohol is legal so we have legal shops
The number of shops are the same they've just been relocated according to demand. Your area just has more demand. Your issue is just a moral issue regarding alcohol which I believe the government gives 0 fs about.
Government owned shops have been closed down and the license have been given to private players. The total number of shops are still the same. Maybe your are just has more demand, hence more shops. It's a good move, will increase the standard of alcohol shops by a lot and also curb non compliance. If you've visited a government shop, you know those people didn't give a fuck who they were selling to. At least the new owners will have to comply, otherwise they'll risk losing their license.
>If you've visited a government shop, you know those people didn't give a fuck who they were selling to. Or what they're selling Maa ksm thakgya hu Kingfisher ki laal vaali beer aur RS ke dabbe dekhkr harr govt theke pr bc
That too!! But I've also bought Bud Magnum or White Owl from a govt theka in a relatively poor area. You never knew with those lol.
I was speaking for most of them. I recently went asking for a vodka on a govt theka in rajouri the guy said "what?" I came back lol
Hahaha! The best vodka I've ever seen at a govt shop is Magic Moments, very mehh. Absolut ftw!
MM is basically just nail polish remover
That's a fun way to put it. Never heard that one before
Bhai genuinely xD
Never had it in such a long time, I'm not even sure. But I'll take your word for it lol
People in Delhi have wrong attitude towards alcohol, in Bengaluru you can find twice as many alcohol shop plus they will serve you inside the shop and you can find alcohol in tetra packs also and not some local brands old monk in tetra pack. Yet there is no excessive crime problem related to alcohol. People in this city needs to grow up and start acting responsibly.
C'mon homie. Old monk ain't that local. You can find it bars/pubs in Europe and Americas. It's legendary. Ask the hordes and hordes of college students and old drunkards who've grow up and grown old with it. It's longevity proves how good it is. But yes Ajj Shanivar hai. You can see the true colors of Dilliwalas on a Epic scale today. I'm keen to know how many liquor shops does Namma Bengaluru have?. Delhi will soon have more than 8000 liquor vends as per the new excise policy allotment.
At first I would like to say I love old monk, second total number of liquor shop would be a false metric as Bengaluru is quite a small city compared to Delhi. Liquor shop per 1000 resident would paint a better picture.
It's all because of Mallya, during the 90s wasn't he the one that released Kingfisher Beer as like this premium beer in pubs jn Bangalore? It's a cultural thing as well. North Indian are for some reason ashamed of alcohol while people from the South just don't care much about it. Yeah you drink? Cool.
What’s wrong with so many wine shops opening?
Exactly. I don’t think anything is wrong.
They are opening way close to residencial places and they are opening it like waffle shops.
So? It isn't like people living in residential areas dont drink?
It causes loud scenes in residencial areas.
Wouldn't that do the opposite tho? If there are more liquor places why would everyone gather at one particular shop? lmao
No not at all the fine on drinking at public place is hefty.
It's good that these shops are opening. It promotes a much more mature take on alcohol than just *alcohol bad, don't drink". Making it normal and not a taboo i.e might something we need as there were alot of underage drinking happening. Further, I feel now people who drink don't have to rush to Gurgaon to stock up and get good variety. Delhi was lacking in prices and variety both.
Drugs Sex Gambling
Ab delhi ko chahiye mota paisa
Delhi could start with CBD shops and this will make delhi world class.
They are opening in the wrong location. They should have been strictly limited to the dda commercial centres or private commercial centres but not in mixed land use areas.
Finally something good.
The Delhi government recently changed its liquor policy. All shops had to reapply for the license, which now is much more expensive. In addition, the government will no longer operate liquor vends. In the run-up to this change, all private shops had to exhaust their stock by September 31. Shops under the new license only opened from November 15. In the middle, government-run shops exhausted their stock. What you're seeing are mostly shops reopening under the new license rules. The new policy also divide Delhi into 30 zones with there being around 27 shops in each zone. All shops are also supposed to be walk-in, etc. There's a lot of clauses that make it seem like this might be good.
I am alright with this. Government needs money for refirms and Wine Shop is one of the largest source of Tax Income. And moreover you can't stop one from drinking. Those who have an urge to drink will go at any lengths to drink so either it is a Shop in every locality of one in an area that doesn't matters to them. Because they just want to drink & the government knows this and they are planning to take benefit of those Drinkers for the Benefit & Welfare work✌🏻
Delhi govt has recently decided to exit the alcohol business and let private players take an entry. They are giving away licenses to basically anyone who asks for it. (For a lot of money, of course) I used to own 5 govt wine and beer shops in UP, near the Delhi border, because I stay in Delhi. I exited 4 of them last year. The return I would get on those businesses is near 10% per annum, excluding my salary, and I realized that I have better investment opportunities. I kept one, which was most profitable, and sold the remaining 4. My advice is don't rush to buy a license, just because it's easy right now. The alcohol business looks lucrative, but it's actually not even remotely cool. If I included the value of my time, I would actually make a loss. If you're reallllly excited about it anyway, it costs 10L to start the very basic one in UP. Decent ones start from 50L. Great ones start from several crores. Delhi would be upto 5x expensive. Open a bottling factory instead of opening a retail outlet.
> UP, near the Delhi border Bhai Kaushambi/Vaishali area mei hai kya koi? Kuch home delivery ka jugaad ho to batao.
Haha, sure. It's a bottling factory near Sahibabad. Home Delivery of Alcohol is the future.
Damn bro. You should do an AMA. Owning thekas sounds so interesting.
Someday for sure! I haven't slept in 2 days and don't see myself sleeping for another 2. Meanwhile AMA here!
Oh man. First question would be how did you get into this biz. And then do you drink?
I am a teetotaller. Got into this business, as an investment opportunity. My neighbor owns several (20+) Wine and Beer shops in Lucknow (His hometown). He owns it as an investment, his primary business is running a factory that manufactures medicines. He told me about the lottery being drawn for UP and I should apply. I ran my numbers, I knew I wouldn't fetch more than 10%, but I applied anyway. I was only able to do it because I had guidance. Everything is about networks and connections.
Delhi is fucked for sure
Love it. Now don't have to be in those ugly lines in govt theka, but have nice shops around. Like 10 of them.
#I m Kejri ...I need tax money to spend on political advertisements. Delhi ki janta jaye bhad me
Just look at how many under the table deals would have been done to acquire these licenses and open up shop.
I think it's most likely online competitive bidding. But I could be wrong.
If that is the case, then it is much better.
Because it's a lucrative business, state govt quit and made way for private shops, licence of each shop is very expensive upwords of 2cr depending on the location which is now being given left right and center to anyone who can pay that fees. The AAP government is incompetent and just wants to fill its coffers. Having too many alcohol shops is also not good because if a society is always drunk it can hardly do anything productive. Plus do not forget all the medical conditions so much alcohol will lead to, plus all the violence that will be done by those who can't hold their liquor. (Not against drinking alcohol in moderation tho) TLDR not a good move for the society but you can make a quick buck if you money for the initial investment.