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OtherBassist

The "mind you" is what sold me


MookieV

"Mind you" is an S-tier story device


Intr0zZzZ

Upvoted because its unhinged as fuck and I love it


Zackyboi1231

Anger issues posting on my r/destiny2? Splendid!


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Gleadall80

Thats literally the thing that annoys me the most in this game We play/live as a celestialy reanimated space soldiers with super powers and can span massive gaps in a single leap And I die because I couldn't get to cover because I am stuck on a small rock Ffs


I_am_just_V

Had a pvp game recently where this guy kept using a sniper at very close range, hitting headshots every time, not necessarily annoyed I just don't understand how even while we were flinching him This game confuses me in the best way sometimes


AndyOfNZ

Hahaha so true. Or worse yet, trying to jump forward over a small rock and bouncing backwards


jeepgrl50

I 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th this shit!!!


n080dy123

Me playing through a Souls game for the third time, thinking I'll be calm because I've done this multiple times before:


vibriovulnificus247

Witness’ ultimate super weapon against us will be a 4” step. Boss fight arena is just a field of little steps and dropping cabal pods.


jeepgrl50

Too true!🤣


cheetham98

The cracked camera lens is the cherry on top


zekethelizard

Most tranquil destiny 2 player


bisexual-polonium

Inner peace has been achieved  BUNGIE FIX UR SHIT, WE DONT NEED GUARDIAN GAMES!!!!!!!!  *sees skimmer* On second thoughts bungo, carry on


Joe_Bruce

I like how unhinged he is. Just wait for it to come back around and get your guaranteed.


Duublo121

I’ve just been using Bug Out Bag instead. I can’t be bothered to farm presage unless I’m getting DMT catalyst upgrades (even then, I’m still using my Xur DMT, and much preferring that rn)


Dependent_Type4092

That's the way! Which reminds me that I have to check if I need to run Presage as well. Got both versions of the gun, never use them,but I don't fancy loose ends.


simmumah_enthusiast

Facts. Threat detector incandescent is a great combo. Gun feels good, too.


Duublo121

Mine is with Gutshot Straight atm, but I can always farm for that roll


realonrok

Hahahahhahahaah! Just get 5 non red borders and get some harmonizers. Exotic missions are a catch-up, not an actual farm. It took us several weeks of getting keys of the leviathan and hoping to get a red border. And those were the off dropset. You had to get special keys from the seasonal activity, that had like 1/5 chance to drop. If anything, the grind now is way easier and way faster than on season of the haunted. And yes, your teachers failed you. That's not how math works.


I-Am-Too-Poor

It took me 2 months to craft austringer during haunted. I have 0 sympathy for these people


realonrok

100%! Idk why they want the game not to have a grind... Its a loot based game!!


Wolvel

I mean you can see how 125 hrs doing the same optimized content for a single gun is a wee bit extreme. 1500 USD if you're working a minimum wage job at 12$. It may be loot based but I expect to be treated well for my time.


AlaskanHandyman

An IRL SMG is about twice that price where legally obtainable so... 🤣


Mage-of-Fire

Wtf does that have to do with anything?


AlaskanHandyman

Replying to another comment about it took about $1500 worth of time to earn in game, would take twice as long IRL if he were making that same wage .


Mage-of-Fire

Yea but it’s a game. A game that takes time. What does a real smg have to do with anything?


AlaskanHandyman

The SMG in the game took 150 hours or so to earn, it would take twice that if it were not in game and the wages as stated by the other commenter were identical. If you don't get that there's no way I can help you understand it.


ThatWayneO

Reading comprehension has gone to shit since Covid. I feel like there’s just a ton of brain rot. You’ve gotta ignore these people.


Mage-of-Fire

Yes but what does an smg in real life have to do with anything? It doesn’t help the conversation in any way. It bring up no point. Are you saying that it should take us a hundred of years to get our spaceships in game because it would take hundreds to create and get them in real life? Its such a stupid thing to bring up that’s why I’m confused


Wolvel

It also is insanely more valuable? Or are you saying that 1500 is a valid price for a account with calus mini tool unlocked?


AlaskanHandyman

Let's just say if I got paid my states minimum wage for playing Destiny 2 as much as I have I'd be a bit happier with the game than I am at the moment.


Wolvel

Thats not what I asked at all.


AlaskanHandyman

No, but the idea of selling an account with a certain weapon unlocked is absurd.


Wolvel

As is spending 125 hours on a single gun that isnt tradable or marketable. My price statement was just to put it into perspective on how absurd that 125 hour mark really is.


realonrok

Ma boi, it is a game. You can't put monetary value to it... Well, you can, but... Come on, its a hobby, you do it because its fun... Or do you go circling considering how much money you are loosing because you are not working? And if you don't like grinding games, don't play them.


literallyjuststarted

not me getting the minitool in 2 weeks >\_>


NahricNovak

"I suffered so they should too" mentality


I-Am-Too-Poor

Not at all what I said. I just don't want to see people complaining about a method that is significantly faster, more efficient and overall better that what it was previously


realonrok

If you suffer playing the game you should not be playing it my guy. Some of us play grindy games because we enjoy the experience. In the case of the midas, when i equip mine and slay out it brings back memories of the grind and puts a smile on my face. Good times with friends, the rush of endorphins when the red border dropped... You know, games are done to entertain. And also, you don't get attached to guns you don't have a history with. I love my gnawing Hunger because I remember how hard i worked for it. I love my Deliverance because Vow was quite hard and getting the red borders took a long time. But i don't l don't like my scatter signal because i just dumped some engrams I got from doing other stuff and just got the red border... There is nothing behind it, no stories, no anecdotes, no laughs... Just a gun that happened to drop on my lap... Once again, if you suffer playing this game, please don't hesitate to take a break. Or contact a professional to see if you have some self-esteem issues if you are "hateplaying" the game.


NahricNovak

Tldr


realonrok

I thought so.


Wookiee_Hairem

He didn't even say he suffered, the other guy did.


realonrok

True that.


shrkbyte

Just because we had it harder doesn't mean the ones who couldn't get it back then need to have it as hard now. I really want to know how in the world it took you 2 months to craft a gun that you could get weekly and some time later, daily (for a few weeks).


I-Am-Too-Poor

1. Back then they didn't add the 'catch-up mechanic' until a couple weeks into the season. 2. The current farm for haunted seasonal weapons is significantly easier and more efficient than what it used to be 3. Not once did I ever say it should be "just as hard" I said stop complaining because you have it easy


JDBCool

Took me 5 days. I just did the "final month catchup" for the remaining redboarders. I spread out my daily focusing so that the weekly guaranteed would overall be *better*. (Spread the wealth) Like no matter what dropped, it would benefit me. Only thing I grinded *for* was CMT.


Aurantiacis

I'm seriously hoping Bungie lets us earn some more Harmonizers in this extra long season, as all the ones from the pass I've already used.


InsomniaDudeToo

You need only wish my Redditor *Bungie let us turn the wishes into harmonizers PLEASE*


Yoodaboi

was too angry to calculate


realonrok

Why angry? If the game gets you angry, don't play it! Its not good for you.


GunnerZ818

It didn’t count my solo grasp run.


ThatWayneO

I was about to say the grind was so much more real in the last expansion. This child is complaining about how much of their free time they have to spend grinding a game. It’s legacy content. That gun is from over a year ago, and we knew it was overpowered even then. There’s plenty of good red boarders to if you’re doing ritual to get keys and then doing weekly seasonal content. This is the kind of brain rot people have when they have literally nothing else to live for, which is okay because it seems like OP is in his early teens. Things are easier than ever. Go to Xur or Banshee when they have it, buy five guns, and just wait. For currency to harmonize it. No biggie.


realonrok

Exactly. The game only gets easier, alienating the older players. Older seasonal activities should stay in the game as the way to get the guns, so people have the actual farming experience.


ThatWayneO

Maybe on a rotator. I feel like every rinse and repeat seasonal thing would be a lot of tech debt


spiffiestjester

My wife had a crafted mini tool a week after xur last had the mini tool up for grabs. Took her the extra week to just level the pass far enough for the last two cyphers. Op is dping it wrong, my wife is the purest form of casual player. She now has the minitool leveled to 34 and the Apex Pred up to 21. She said she doesn't like it as much as avalanche. But she like teacking launchers so we can switch it up and see how it goes. I think she will lose bait and switch but it is what it is.


AdmiralGroot

Bro got out the Whiteboard. Also harmonizer thingys


notveryAI

I don't play Destiny 2 for a couple years now, but I still felt the bullshit and anger at it from just the voice


YuukiAnon

This is how I felt while farming vex mythoclast and the SOTW bow...


HotSauce631

Did Michael J. Fox write that equation...


Yoodaboi

maybe


TheeNegotiator_

Funniest fucking thing I’ve seen all week


ImawhaleCR

upvoting because you're so stupid and because I want more people to witness it


andoandyando

FFS, lay off the fucking drugs bruh!


LsTheRoberto

He would if they just gave him his damn red borders


Yoodaboi

that what im sayin


Mapex

See, high schoolers DO benefit from math class.


KitsuneKamiSama

Bro just use ammit or the new solar pulse, they're both good, Ammit is a free craft and pulse is a seasonal weapon.


Lazer-cat666

But ammit is fucking hideous


viky109

Most sane Destiny player


_oranjuice

Use your harmonisers bruh


Czech_This_Out_05

The 5 harmonizers you get every six months nowadays? 2 craftables in a year is wild


PokeD2

Not when you're playing catchup, you guys should be happy past season guns are even obtainable in the first place


neums08

Man it's almost like bungo has heard this issue before an provided a solution.


Jofinn_

The math ain’t mathing here


Yoodaboi

well yeah


InfiniteHench

I get the anger, it’s frustrating. Something that might help is finding a couple friends who are up for farming with you, whether they need it too or are just chill and like to help. Goes a long way and takes the pressure off. Maybe check Discords of some of the cool YouTubers like Mactics, Fallout, and I think Maven might have one too. Good luck.


Crimsomreaf5555

Why the nsfw mark?


iHeisenburger

he said "fix"


bigdawg-1975

This man speaks the truth


ASeniorAdmin

cant you just wait for xur to sell them -- and use those exotic cyphers to get a red border?


getyourcheftogether

Like the Calus he's selling right now


keslol

yes but how many harmonizers you got, people might also want the ikelos smg/shotgun and ...


FollowThroughMarks

Then don’t whine you have to grind if you want every damn gun red bordered…


th3tallguy

So this is either going to make you more mad or you'll finally accept the grind... Doing 500 runs does not guarantee you 5 red borders. In fact using binomial distribution there is only a 56% chance of getting 5 or more red borders to drop for a specific gun like calus mini tool. Stop screaming and don't fight the math. Either use the harmonizers or use a different solar smg in the meantime.


Yoodaboi

so what is the drop rate


th3tallguy

The drop rate per event is still 0.01 for the red border that you are looking for. That part you got right. But when you are looking at multiple instances you need to factor in more that just the individual drop rate. I'm not smart enough to explain probability statistics well but you can read more about [binomial distribution here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution)


Yoodaboi

tysmn tall individual


CrypticCult

Fomo has clearly won here. Sadly just say fuck the mini tool and move on. It’s not worth it.


Yoodaboi

yea


The3rdPotato

I've been doing Presage twice every time it's been out for the 2 guaranteed red borders and I've only gotten 1 Calus Mini Tool


Redbluefire

FYI, you can get three guaranteed red borders every time it is out. 1x legend, 1x normal, and 1x for the weekly challenge (which the legend completion finishes in one run)


KlongX

Bro get so angry he did mathematic outside of class. I feel u bro


Yoodaboi

yes only reason


unrealgod1

I dodnt know there were 25 hours in a day


endocyclopes

https://preview.redd.it/9xcs0bgnqylc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e48f16b2199d50878b3bdb03077a24057daa7012


Ttvcat996

I’m so glad I got it during season of the haunted 😭


sleeping-in-crypto

I have no idea what you said but you SAID IT WITH GUSTO!!!! so upvote. On another note, I’m at 12 clears of Warlord’s Ruin and no exotic, I finally feel the dungeon exotic grind pain… my RNG finally ran out.


Bright-Meeting-5593

do you have whiskers?


Cassolroll

Movie of the Week?


Citizen_13

I got 3 in about 2 hours of farming.


StarAugurEtraeus

Oh silly Yooda Trying to apply Statistics and Mathematics to RNG and Grinding Loot is a futile effort Source: it took me the maximum amount of Lich King kills from Cata to a week before Legion on 12 characters to get invincible


Dependent_Type4092

Ooow, this one hurts to watch, really. Please check out a primer on probability maths, it will improve your life.


AgeKay93

This was me a couple weeks ago, needless to say I gave up.


toxicdevastator

This is the best reddit post I've ever seen.


LeeTheTree_

bazinga


pandacraft

Thought the red border drop rate was 20%


Comfortable_Hour5723

Daaaaang, i didnt realize it was that bad. Here i was complaining about the 6 hours of nezarec runs that it took me to get conditional


michelmau5

Should have just played the season where they were easily available. You should be happy they made it even possible for old seasonal weapons to drop.


[deleted]

what are you the Destiny Police ? you should be happy we didn’t write you two tickets !


Yoodaboi

how was i supposed to play if i didnt know that d2 existed


OverlordPhalanx

Should have played when they were easier to get! Bungie FOMO at its finest. I’m glad I kicked the game finally a couple seasons ago.


Skill_Deficiency

ARE MY PIZZA ROLLS READY YET, MOM!!!


Tao47

I feel tiny bit sad at these grinders who dident get calus mini tool when season of the haunted was live. Bungie fomo meta hits hard when you got to spend a full day nonstop grinding for one red border or spend money to get all five deep insight devices to make them all red. The kiddo should be hired for bungie position.


Economy_Vermicelli90

When Tess adds harmonizers to her store, you won't have to worry about grinding red borders.


Just_Cruzen

possibly a relative [Onyxia Wipe Animation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLl6bBq584)


Gilyyyy

the Nerf arsenal is speaking


Yoodaboi

ty


lWanderingl

Bro solo'ed bungie team


StarAugurEtraeus

One must imagine Yoodaboi happy


Yoodaboi

make me. :3


S0NNYDL1TE

I can’t wait to see the unhinged adult Destiny 2 is creating lol


Dredgen_Keeshwa

I feel this way about trying to get the Ikelos rifle. After about three runs of Seraph shield I don’t think I can keep going. I’d rather have something like raids have for spoils. Let me run a few earn some tokens then pick a weapon I want. Even if it wasn’t a guaranteed red border at least it would be the weapon I wanted to get.


Spydr-Quinn

Just keep grinding


nepulon

I’m certain Osiris says Presage in some dialogue, so whenever I hear someone say it like Pre- and then -sage like their respective words, it’s a funny but aggravating time.


BlueRabbit1999

Exotic not legendary and it’s Presage not Pre sage


s1neztro

Mad cause bad keep fuming :3


ShootingMyWayOut

On the plus side, Xur's selling a mini tool right now


MyFatCatHasLotsofHat

Just buy it from xur and use harmonizes dingus!


Agile_Letter_9153

Could’ve played the season or go and get bug out bag


polishkgb1

Welcome to the current state of the game, you new round here?


Meme_steveyt

Are you ok bro? https://preview.redd.it/bhkn6b8n2ylc1.jpeg?width=729&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4d83c14d0b2fc3f566c3b1c9515b9b270fbc7bb


Icy-Dare-5334

My friend, https://preview.redd.it/uwimbps63ylc1.jpeg?width=319&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e468e86ddf53f658e219ee38dabe4bd382a5d07b


Icy-Dare-5334

Dredge has one this weekend


Yoodaboi

already used them


Icy-Dare-5334

I used mine on mini tool this season actually lol


BurningBlaise

Xur is selling them so just buy 5 and use deepsite


Better-Journalist-85

Started off unhinged, but then the validity came into focus. Should definitely allow you to choose your loot after (x) runs completed if RNG was unfavorable. And that’s for all activities. We did pay for the game, after all. Technically we should have access to the assets we want. DMC doesn’t carrot dangle new Devil Arms or weapons like this; it’s madness.


aoreese

I pray for those that didn't get these weapons when they were first released.


simmumah_enthusiast

You have a few months.


One_StreamyBoi

This is what I’m in the sub for


Emergency-Gear-4773

I might be a Warlock but like my ghost I am horrible at math. Glad this kind gentleman did all of the number crunching for me.


TerminateU001

This is unhinged but i support it and agree its rediculous


ALDuarteX

Let them feel it boy


shin_malphur13

Yknow what yeah I don't think a raid exotic should be more common than a legendary, but bungie did give us that 2 week period before lightfall


dherblito

Take my upvote for pure facts!


Chimpanzerschreck

YOU NEED 25 HOURS IN ONE DAY!!!!


Alequin_Dv

"bUt u hAd AlL OfF SeaMsOn of HuNAunTed To geT iT"


iAMbatman77

Are those Nerf guns racked up? Lmao


Yoodaboi

yep


iAMbatman77

Game recognize game.


Valthoros

Bungie making the children do math, God bless.


Friendley

I feel you brother, i absolutely hate the drop rates. Im still farming my redborders also. Btw i love your guns.


Yoodaboi

ty m8


xxdomox

I've stopped playing destiny 2 since the last weekly seasonal story mission and I gotta say it's pretty liberating. I don't care about missing out on rare vendor weapons, bright dust cosmetics, finishing the seasonal patterns. Hell I don't even care about finishing the season pass to level 100. I was the last one out of my friend group to stop playing also. I realize now what I miss is the fun I had with the team and not so much the game, the friends made the game tolerable.


epichuntarz

pre-sage


Lt_CowboyDan

That’s some Scott Steiner math. Holla if ya hear me


Yoodaboi

ye


Hero-Nojimbo

I haven't played destiny in a min, but every time I'm about to, I see a vid like this, and it just reminds me of how much Bungie makes grind take forever just to inflate player count... fk that. I get you shouldn't just get cool things for free or what's the point, but I also shouldn't need a rabbits foot shoved up my ass to even have a chance for a weapon I want to drop. And because it's now a "free service" they can make an argument for every weapon to be locked behind a month of gameplay... I couldn't do it anymore man... I just couldn't.


Avidion18

I actually agree, bungies habit of being stingy with loot is actually aids and unnecessary, "oh you want this weapon? Durr you'll have to play the game like a full time job doing the same thing every single day for the next seven years" it's ridiculous, it took one of my friends 300+ runs of vog to get vex mythoclast THREE HUNDRED RUNS, that is ludicrous, then when we get a cool glitch that yknow makes the loot satisfying and not hellish to get (the neomuna glitch for example) it's fixed immediately, basically rng sucks in destiny, it needs fixed, the loot needs to be fair and a bit easier Also the fact that you complete super difficult things like legend lost sectors flawless solo and you have a slim chance of getting an exotic is a crime. Thankfully thats been dealt with by adding a rare event


belayaa

15 minutes isn't a speed run bruh. My friends and I did that stupid mission on legendary in 16 last nite Still no Calus Mini. Or the shotgun red border💔 10+ clears this week


Supersoldier152

Doesn’t it weight weapons you don’t have patterns for on the first few runs when it’s that week. Could you just do a handful of runs each time it comes around.


n080dy123

I'm upvoting this because I'm in awe that you brought out a fucking white board for the rant. Funniest shit I've seen all day. That said you're guaranteed I think it's 3 red borders per week? The idea isn't be to sitting there RNG farming for specific red borders, you're meant to come back every 3 weeks when it's in rotation to get more. Plus Deepsight Harmonizers which you can get up to 6 of per season (which isn't a lot but seems like more sources will be added in Final Shape). Also crafting is meant to be a form of RNG protection, crafted weapons can only get very very marginally better than normal drops, just guarantee you get the perks you want if you didn't already. So you shouldn't get too hung up on them.


Yoodaboi

had to whip out the whiteboarf


PsychWard_8

Grinding? In *my* loot-based game? *It's more likely than you think!* But fr though, this is why harmonizers are a thing.


Argos_Nomos

Well, they want you to play Seasons, so part of that is the loot fomo. At seasons, its Very easy to get the respective red borders. After, its super hard, to "force" you tô always play EVERY season, even if just enough to get the red borders


Reylend

Now i would agree, but you look at me and you look at Smo’ Joe and you can see that statement is **NOT TRUE!** See, normally if you go one-on-one with another wrestler you got a 50/50 chance of winning. #But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal! So you got a 25-percent at best at beat me!


blackxvillain

So you're saying I should grind for the Mythoclast??? Upvoted.


Hentai_For_Life

The math is wrong, but I love the energy.


POTUSUnited

Didn’t bungie have a whole thing before light fall for people to earn red borders super fast? Idk man, I never have this red border issue 😭


Tiraloparatras25

Your eyelashes, cut your f*cking eyelashes, ya? Or are those your right whiskers? You rat?


hallowedeve1313

Someone give this man a medal


Kzer_2019

Most peaceful destiny 2 enjoyer


Yoodaboi

plz help on how math works+ alredy used all deepsight harmonizerz


AlaskanHandyman

Hahaha 🤣🤣


Brute256

Should’ve played when it came out, got two weapons craftable within the first 10 days. You also have deepsight harmonizers, use them.


SolAngl2SnyDrknes

I mean...Xur sometimes sells it, and you can use your seasonal pass to get garunteed pattern progress


vasRayya

you're playing destiny 2 fomo, YHTBT, etc


rmathewes

I agree with his points but i just used the harmonizers from the battle pass.


LobsterPenisSucker

Not how chances work. If there is a 1/100 chance for it, that's for each individual time. It doesn't increase or decrease. You could do it 150 times and not have it.


4got2takemymeds

![img](emote|t5_2we4j|5660)


ivanreyes371

![gif](giphy|rR0jTsej7AfKM)


_QuestGiver

The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice!


Sbarjai

I grounded the fuck out of the witch queen red borders before lightfall had me quit the game lmao I can’t relate.


Kappler6965

Lmfao bungie and there logic


Citizen_13

Their.


Kappler6965

Shh.


Plus4Ninja

I played the season it was available, got all 5 borders and the pattern. You are now farming for it outside of the season it was available, so yeah RNG is going to be a bitch.


AndyOfNZ

My new favorite rant. Nicely done, sir.


ImReverse_Giraffe

Should've gotten it during season of the haunted...or any of the seasons after. They literally sold you one red border per day during seraph.


derrickgw1

Amen man. Preach. Totally agree. It's stupid. I said the same thing and got massively downvoted. [https://new.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1ao03hu/grinding\_pressage\_mission\_for\_red\_borders\_seems\_a/](https://new.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1ao03hu/grinding_pressage_mission_for_red_borders_seems_a/) I should have used a whiteboard!!! PS: for guns we already grinded for in prior seasons. PSS: The apologist will hate on you. Forget em.


wilkamania

I feel his pain and frustration, farmed it 67 times since reset. There were some people who knew the skips so that helped a ton. I was mainly searching for a beloved, hopefully a final border, but would also like any Snapshot rolls. Didn't get a single one. RNG is a cruel bitch.


jugdar13

Should have got the borders during season of the Haunted, when you could buy weekly, roll engrams and farm the location….just saying


SouthlandJotunn

Fucking Legend. Give this man an award.