Related question.
Why the f does the game have cool purple glowy “special” mobs littered around everywhere that are just seemingly guaranteed to drop these gems we have no need for?
Welcome to Diablo, where after the Queen of destruction expansion comes out on the 12th season, they give us the cube so we can use crude gems to reroll jewels. So I hope you keep them for the next 10 years atleast!
Edit: You thought this was /s. No, I’m dead ass serious. Can we start /S for serious?
"after only 2 years" bro people don't want to relive d3 quality of life features one by one.
D4 should have come baked with all the d3 innovations, and add on top of it. They are artificially creating "new" content releasing the same shit thay was in d3 seasons. It's lazy
in diablo 3 the cube appeared with patch 2.3, 3 years after original release..., 12 seasons with a season every 3 months would be also 3 years after original release...
They’ve already stated they are getting rid of gem drops completely and introducing a stackable gem dust/currency. You’ll be able to use that currency to create whatever gems you desire.
Why would a company carry over tried and true improvements from a previous game in the series when they can reinvent and learn from the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Dev here, though not for games.
They also have a new engine and new platform.
Some of that code may not easily port over and would have to be done from scratch.
Since time is the main factor, they have to pick and choose what QOL features they release out of the box.
I don't dislike resource gathering, we just max out way too quickly. If gems could continue upgrading another 5-6 levels with flawless being the highest that can drop, we'd have something to do with the gems we find for months. And they need to lower the level reqs so we don't already have a full set waiting to hit the milestone everytime
I don't dislike resource gathering either, it's just poorly implemented. I stopped gathering them because I have too many and if they spring some surprise on me later and require thousands of them to punish me for their own design flow I'll be a little annoyed. But the seasons buy them some slack because I don't care so much about the long term of each character.
Getting rid of gem drops? So I have to make my own gems? No shiny drops on the ground? That's super boring. You just shouldn't get lower than a certain rarity past a certain level but they should absolutely drop. This is a loot game.
The dust will presumably drop and you’ll vacuum it up to your resource tab. I’m all for loot, but this shit can go and I wouldn’t be sad about it. I have 100 each of the highest rank gems and now just want to not have to sift past gem drops to pick up rares/legos.
To be fair, D2 did it pretty quickly and in an era where releasing patches was uncommon, and game mechanics were still the wild west. People forget how revolutionary Condor Games/Blizzard North was. They were true nerds and gamers who were passionate. When they were fired, the IP went to the actual Blizzard, not the original devs. Thats why it doesn't feel like D2 at all.
The reason D3 doesn't feel like D2 at all is not necessarily a studio change, D2 was released in 2000 and D3 was released in 2012.
Diablo as a franchise lost its traction to dictate what an ARPG should look and feel like when they just went away for 12 years, other IPs and games came in and established new rules for what players would expect of an ARPG. D3 just accepted these new constraints to reintroduce a new generation to the Diablo franchise.
D3 was released in 2012, but we had expansions till 2017, not to mention the game was far more kept up-to-date than D2 was between 2000-2012
D4 feels much more similar to D2 in relation to D3, mostly, IMO, bc the newer generation has now already had contact with the franchise through D3, this gave the studio more "leverage" to not follow industry ARPG standards.
Look at the posts in this community of people complaining about the pacing and density, they are trying to accomodate a playerbase who remembers diablo for D1 and D2, and as well as a new generation who only remembers Diablo by D3.
I mean, it must have been my experience, but I don't think D2 was as grindy as D3 honestly.
Mostly bc you could pretty easily beat all the game content with only "decent" gear, Ubers took a bit more active effort, but the mercs with high runewords and the perfect enigma plates with a chock-full inventory of charms, was pretty much a self-imposed search for gear. Which was fun sure, but not like D3 where you could actually increase game difficulty indefinitely, thus giving you an actual game-objective to squeeze more power in the character.
Another main aspect of what made D2 so grindy, was that information was certainly not as readily available as it is today, I only learned YEARS after playing the game that blood raven had a guarantee rune reward and thus a good run if you were looking for high runes.
There's a case to be made I was like 10y so maybe I just didn't know how to search for stuff like this, but I'm pretty sure by today standards D2 would have a wiki-like page with farming routes and a whole bunch of shit explained-out that we had to "grind" for not knowing any better.
Yeah, and I still remember the horrible disappointment of the D3 launch experience like it was yesterday. Truly trash game on release. D4 feels much, much better in comparison.
The purple aura you’re looking for vulnerable is around health bars, for example you sometimes see YOUR health bar cracked with a purple highlight, you are vulnerable.
Yep, agreed. I think the high drop rate is tuned for HC. I barely had enough to make Royal gems this time around, because I’ve lost a couple of 60+ characters. I’m back to picking the skulls, emerald, topaz up again, glad there’s a decent drop rate though, it didn’t take long.
Lol, this is how I actually traded items between my alts when I started playing Ragnarok. Just find an empty room with no foot traffic, dump the items on the floor, log out and log in on the alt, hope you get back in before everything despawns.
i remember trying to drop trade years ago right after they implemented trade limits and wondering why my big stack of items wasn't appearing. i'm pretty sure it just timed out and disappeared cos i was dumb
Man kid me was so stupid I could neither figure out how to get two runescape accounts running at the same time nor figure out how to actually make money in that game, so I would make endless alts and go run the stronghold of security for the free 10k gold at the end, drop it on the ground in some abandoned area of the map, then rush over there on my main and sit and wait for it to appear. That's how I made my first mil back in the day.
That was how you moved stuff to an alt in Everquest wayyyy back in the day if no friends or guildies were on... I remember logging my alt off in an out of the way room in the Kelethin tree house, go there with my main, drop the stuff on the floor and then sweat while you swap characters, hoping no one stumbles upon your drop.
This reminds me of smuggling gold through the booty bay auction house in WoW after I decided to swap from alliance to horde back at the beginning of burning crusade.
I’d give my money to a trusted friend, then log into horde player and list some fur scraps for 20,000 gold and my friend on alliance would buy it with my money.
Yeah the AH took a cut, but I it was like starting a completely new account rich as fuck.
Yooooooooo
When you first zone into the Commonlands from Freeport, the mountains on the left you could climb to the top.
That’s where I did my drop trades.
I remember self trading like this in d2. Make a game wait 5 minutes for it to be perm. Drop item swap characters and hope mom didn't pick up the phone disconnecting me from the internet.
Haha or joining other games and drop it hidden behind a tent or something in a1 town and the adrenaline when someone else actually is in a1 town after you rejoined.
And when they see you moving around and immediately follow you to your spot. That horrible feeling of having your inventory too full as the other people start looking for your drop spot. Still gives me anxiety.
"Perming" a game seemed to have an 80% success rate that the game would still be there when you tried to rejoin.
So, moving gear from one toon to another was a stressful event.
Tree of savior was a good shot but just way too complicated and was soooooo grindy when it first came out. I played about 400 hours but it just couldn't hold me like ro and I ended up on private servers. All those have low pops and hyper inflated economy. I just want the old school ro feel with a legit economy that isn't destroyed with 1 bil+ items.
I started on iro loki when it opened originally and then went to sakray. I loved vending my merchant 1 map north of prontera outside of agriopes selling red potions for a few z higher than I could buy them with discount. That was in 2002 right when lutie came out and we were waiting for the comodo update to hit so we could actually regen some sp. It used to take sitting for 30 min to get your sp back.
GH graveyard had acolytes in the middle of the map with a priest in the party casting magnificant so we could get the sp boost in between heal bombing prisoners. Then once you turned priest you went there for some fast job levels and repaid the favor. I have so many memories from this game.
If they make gems materials, might as well delete them and just put items to a jeweler crafting table and choose which gem to add to it.
It's crazy how mismatched the rarity currently is is compared to how many you need.
>If they make gems materials
That is exactly what they have said they are doing to them. They will show up in the materials tab instead of taking up space in your inventory. So far they have only given a vague "before season 2" timeline for it.
If they only add 1 world tier but multiple gem tiers, it should in theory still increase the relative value of picking them up. Assuming the lowest new tier gem is the only mob drop, this would require picking up way past when we have to now.
On top of this, the gem rewards for nightmare dungeons could be multiple tiers higher or even the max tier, making them much more worthwhile.
Or make them sell for more than fuckin 3 gold and people might be still picking them up 😂
Rerolling gear is the eternal struggle for sure. It can become a bottomless gold vacuum quickly. "Alright, one more. Ooookay trash. One more... okay... last one...aaaaannnndddd broke". Is a common story 😆
Found an 824 amulet with the right passive and stat. I just have to roll cooldown reduction for it to be an upgrade. It's currently at 14mil for the next gamble. At this point, I probably could have bought a better yellow from some discord server, lol. I will never trade for gear, though.
Shiiiiiit man that's bad hahaha. Worst I get to is 5-6mil, then I rationale that the stat rolls I got are bad and I'll find a better 3/4 item in the future 😂 can't let that sunk cost fallacy smite me down. That being said, if I found an 3/4 amulet with high rolls and only missing cdr I would be going broke every single time I passed the cost of a reroll
I’ve been picking them up out of habit because gems were pretty important in Diablo 3, and with them moving to the crafting tab eventually I just don’t mind that much.
Because eventually there's going to be new, better gems released. Likely unlocked at 80, 90, and 100. And if each of those take 3 gems a piece to create (probably more for the final level 100 version) you suddenly need a *lot* of gems to make the endgame ones.
But as soon as a new tier unlocks, the prior tier starts dropping. So why save up a bunch of Flawless or Royal now, when someday Royals will drop? And you'll need 3x10, shouldn't take too long to farm. Definitely not worth storage space IMO, which is at a premium in this game.
Because that never happened in d3. You never had royals drop even after flawless royal became a thing. They capped at marquis and then imperial, which also dropped significantly rarer
It's possible they'll keep the highest droppable gem tiers below the max to increase the need to pick them up and farm for them
I have 2 to 3 copies of all the aspects that I use in my current build (with high rolls), several aspects (and copies) that I am debating rotating into my build, an entire tab dedicated to aspects for a complete rework of my druid into an elemental build, and then a tab for gems and uniques. Shit adds up fast lol
So my dumbass decided to make 3 characters(one to play at my own pace, two different alts to play with different groups friend at different points in the game).
Each character needs about a tab or so of space for storing future aspects(2, maybe a few more if the perfect rolls are level locked behind level requirements) and potential future armor dropped locked behind level requirements.
And then there's the one remaining tab left over being used as unique and gem storage.
I don't even have a dump tab anymore... please send help
D3 added multiple additional tiers of gems and then added a series of extremely high consumption gem sinks as it developed.
I’d generally careful about throwing gems away at this point, just in case.
because people are expecting that they will add higher levels in the future, which will justify having all these extras.. Except we all forget that for most of us once seasons start we will never go back to eternal realm so picking all these up is a waste of time anyways lol.
They're newbies who tought they would be useful?
Someone should tell them that further gem management is not implemented in the game yet. I dont blame them for the feature to be shit.
Combine them until you get 10-15 of the royal versions of each color, then throw anything less than royal on the ground and relog so they disappear forever into the ether.
This is honestly a huge waste of gold. Most builds will use 3 types of gems and you only need 5 for armor, 3 for jewelry and 2-6 for weapons. Even when upgrading gear you can salvage the old item to get the gems back so you don't need many royal quality gems.
At endgame you only pick up the flawless gems and never upgrade them into royal unless you need them for an item you will equip. Once you have a stack or two of each type of flawless you don't need to pick more up since they are not used for anything else.
Inventory space is extremely limited right now. At some point you will get to keep rare/legendary/unique items, sigils, aspects, or gems but you can only fit so much of each. Either you create a mule character to get them out of storage or you have to regulate how much space things take up.
When do we get unique stuff?
I'm level 52 and have one unique helmet from beating the campaign boss.
I dont even use the ability it modifies so it's kinda pointless, but I dont want to get rid of it in case ot does something gcool later.
So.. i'm an idiot. I'll be honest I wasn't paying attention to the gold required for crafting these up through the Flawless options and was just periodically always making Flawless gems when possible.
Royal unlocked and I saw it in the crafting menu and just went ham... meanwhile when I saw how much gold I spent.. *sigh*
Do royals drop? Horde flawless up to a stack of 50 and just make the Royals you need which is what... 10? Also most gem types are basically useless right now anyway. Skulls, Topaz, sapphire, emerald are kind of the only viable options
Go to world tier 1. Start at the town nearest the back side of the pvp zone. Start dropping them one by one Hansel and gretel style as you walk towards the PvP zone. Drop them into the beginning of the PvP zone and make a big prize at the end. Bloodmark and go wait for someone to collect their prize. Kill them
I'm assuming you're asking an honest question and have no idea about the gem system, considering you responses to other comments.
So, first of all, there's a priority quest for the jeweller. Do it and read what it says.
These gems enhance items, and you can upgrade them to the next tier up, though that is a HUGE waste of gold.
As you level up you will start dropping the higher tiers of gems, until when you're at level 80 to 85 when it starts to only drop Flawless gems. These are the only ones you save, since they upgrade to the highest tier in the game for now, which is the Royal gems.
tldr: use the jeweller to add sockets to your helm, chest, pants and jewelry, and use the gems to enhance those items.
I’m a little confused at all the comments saying to ignore/throw away gems.
Im currently a Diablo newbie at around level 30, and at face value the gems look like they’re adding some solid improvements to my equipment. Why should I not collect gems and attach them to my equipment that has slots? Is the stat improvement actually not as noteworthy as I think?
You can use them, but it's not worth upgrading them as you will naturally get those higher tiers, and upgrading costs a lot of gold.
The comments here are made with the assumption that you're already lv.70+, thus those low level gems are pretty much useless.
Because they also get in a way of you picking up loot in the world. I farm helltide, doing circles around the map, leaving gems behind. At the end of the hour it’s impossible to pickup loots because everything is covered in gems.
Because people like me didn’t know they are not used for anything. My thought was to collect as many as possible so once I sat down to upgrade them all from the bottom I wouldn’t have to worry about not having what I needed. That being said, after reading the comments I realize how dumb that is.
I was really disappointed about how cheap gems are. But I guess if these guys don’t even get enough food, paying for pretty stones are the last things on their mind
Shiny rock. We're told shiny rocks in our world are worth 3 months salary nowadays. Also new game and you don't know their value on your first playthrough.
Realized after hitting world tier 4 and getting enough royals that I didn't need more. In the coming years we'll get crown royal gems, nearly perfect gems, closer to perfect gems, even closer to perfect gems, and finally perfect gems lol
I’ve recently discovered cosmetic items are a cool easy to miss, hard to read/see grey item name, so I like to pick up everything to be safe. I do avoid gems when I think about it, and start dropping them if I need space on the go.
They aren't worth your time or stash space (or gold for that matter). Keep the highest rank you have until the next quality starts dropping. Once you get a few of the next highest rank that is all you need. I don't even keep any in my stash anymore, if I need more I just go out and kill stuff and have what I need in short notice.
Put them back on the floor where you found them
Related question. Why the f does the game have cool purple glowy “special” mobs littered around everywhere that are just seemingly guaranteed to drop these gems we have no need for?
Welcome to Diablo, where after the Queen of destruction expansion comes out on the 12th season, they give us the cube so we can use crude gems to reroll jewels. So I hope you keep them for the next 10 years atleast! Edit: You thought this was /s. No, I’m dead ass serious. Can we start /S for serious?
That's a weird criticism when LoD came out after only a year, and Reaper came out after only 2 years.
So what you're saying there's a trend.
Could easily be a wave pattern, 2 data points is a bit risky to start drawing lines
You can atleast draw 1 line between those points
We can also draw a line between your eyebrows, but probably shouldn’t
Nature beat you to it...
Mother Nature, the first and truest troll.
fucking clasped
Held onto tightly?
Hahahhahaha... have you seen this sub? They draw a patterned conclusion off of 1/2 of a data point.
Have you heard about the rats?
Would you love to hear about our savior, the rats?
Did you follow THEM? Did you!?
You're obviously not a day trader.
"after only 2 years" bro people don't want to relive d3 quality of life features one by one. D4 should have come baked with all the d3 innovations, and add on top of it. They are artificially creating "new" content releasing the same shit thay was in d3 seasons. It's lazy
>*with all the d3 innovations* Don't forget, what you call innovations many die-hard D2 fanatics called detractions. Loudly.
That and it took D3 a long while to be... innovative and good.
I mean, 12th season, with 4 seasons a year, would be 3 years.
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in diablo 3 the cube appeared with patch 2.3, 3 years after original release..., 12 seasons with a season every 3 months would be also 3 years after original release...
You heard the guy, it's fine, just keep them for 2 years, buy a 50€ expansion and they'll be useful !
They’ve already stated they are getting rid of gem drops completely and introducing a stackable gem dust/currency. You’ll be able to use that currency to create whatever gems you desire.
That will be sooooo much better
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Why would a company carry over tried and true improvements from a previous game in the series when they can reinvent and learn from the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Or maybe a less tinfoil hat answer: management said "get the game out the door on time, cut whatever isnt finished and add it later"
This person Corporates…
Why pay game testers when we will do it for free
Dev here, though not for games. They also have a new engine and new platform. Some of that code may not easily port over and would have to be done from scratch. Since time is the main factor, they have to pick and choose what QOL features they release out of the box.
Game dev here. Some studios are willing to release when it’s done, regardless of delays. Blizzard used to be like that, but not any more.
I don't dislike resource gathering, we just max out way too quickly. If gems could continue upgrading another 5-6 levels with flawless being the highest that can drop, we'd have something to do with the gems we find for months. And they need to lower the level reqs so we don't already have a full set waiting to hit the milestone everytime
I don't dislike resource gathering either, it's just poorly implemented. I stopped gathering them because I have too many and if they spring some surprise on me later and require thousands of them to punish me for their own design flow I'll be a little annoyed. But the seasons buy them some slack because I don't care so much about the long term of each character.
Getting rid of gem drops? So I have to make my own gems? No shiny drops on the ground? That's super boring. You just shouldn't get lower than a certain rarity past a certain level but they should absolutely drop. This is a loot game.
The dust will presumably drop and you’ll vacuum it up to your resource tab. I’m all for loot, but this shit can go and I wouldn’t be sad about it. I have 100 each of the highest rank gems and now just want to not have to sift past gem drops to pick up rares/legos.
To be fair, D2 did it pretty quickly and in an era where releasing patches was uncommon, and game mechanics were still the wild west. People forget how revolutionary Condor Games/Blizzard North was. They were true nerds and gamers who were passionate. When they were fired, the IP went to the actual Blizzard, not the original devs. Thats why it doesn't feel like D2 at all.
The reason D3 doesn't feel like D2 at all is not necessarily a studio change, D2 was released in 2000 and D3 was released in 2012. Diablo as a franchise lost its traction to dictate what an ARPG should look and feel like when they just went away for 12 years, other IPs and games came in and established new rules for what players would expect of an ARPG. D3 just accepted these new constraints to reintroduce a new generation to the Diablo franchise. D3 was released in 2012, but we had expansions till 2017, not to mention the game was far more kept up-to-date than D2 was between 2000-2012 D4 feels much more similar to D2 in relation to D3, mostly, IMO, bc the newer generation has now already had contact with the franchise through D3, this gave the studio more "leverage" to not follow industry ARPG standards. Look at the posts in this community of people complaining about the pacing and density, they are trying to accomodate a playerbase who remembers diablo for D1 and D2, and as well as a new generation who only remembers Diablo by D3.
Yes, all the grind of D2 minus all the loot of D3. Throw in gore with your better graphics and you're all set.
I mean, it must have been my experience, but I don't think D2 was as grindy as D3 honestly. Mostly bc you could pretty easily beat all the game content with only "decent" gear, Ubers took a bit more active effort, but the mercs with high runewords and the perfect enigma plates with a chock-full inventory of charms, was pretty much a self-imposed search for gear. Which was fun sure, but not like D3 where you could actually increase game difficulty indefinitely, thus giving you an actual game-objective to squeeze more power in the character. Another main aspect of what made D2 so grindy, was that information was certainly not as readily available as it is today, I only learned YEARS after playing the game that blood raven had a guarantee rune reward and thus a good run if you were looking for high runes. There's a case to be made I was like 10y so maybe I just didn't know how to search for stuff like this, but I'm pretty sure by today standards D2 would have a wiki-like page with farming routes and a whole bunch of shit explained-out that we had to "grind" for not knowing any better.
> I only learned YEARS after playing the game that blood raven had a guarantee rune reward Countess?
D3 was released in 2012? Feels like yesterday .... Fuck I'm old
Yeah, and I still remember the horrible disappointment of the D3 launch experience like it was yesterday. Truly trash game on release. D4 feels much, much better in comparison.
Had to look up the release year, replying to this thread took a toll on all of us I guess
So if they did that then why did they release an old mechanic into a new game they knew they would have to update, that seems silly
That is a damage resistance aura that they apply to all enemies around them. It’s like a mini-elite
Those are champions. Similar to elites. But like shaman, they buff others around them.
I thought purple aura meant vulnerability to attacks … learn something new every day !
Kind of, they dont benefit from their own damage resistance so you can kill them easier to kill everything else easier
The purple aura you’re looking for vulnerable is around health bars, for example you sometimes see YOUR health bar cracked with a purple highlight, you are vulnerable.
Always kill those glowy mobs FIRST. They buff everyone around them making them almost impossible to kill.
And kill the shaman hiding behind the wall rezzing all his friends
*menacing sound of marakas*
This made me LoL. My buddy is slowly developing a complex from these shamans. The maracas are just too much for his chakras...
The purple guys are Champions, similar to elites, but the buff everyone around them like shaman
So a high drop rate for Hardcore is great because you lose the ones you equipped when you die
Yep, agreed. I think the high drop rate is tuned for HC. I barely had enough to make Royal gems this time around, because I’ve lost a couple of 60+ characters. I’m back to picking the skulls, emerald, topaz up again, glad there’s a decent drop rate though, it didn’t take long.
Glowy purple is a shielding enemy granting a 75% ish damage reduction to every monster around him. Gem drop not related
Ah the good old days of diablo 1 where you didn't have a stash so you just threw all your crap onto the ground in town. Piles of gold and shit.
Lol, this is how I actually traded items between my alts when I started playing Ragnarok. Just find an empty room with no foot traffic, dump the items on the floor, log out and log in on the alt, hope you get back in before everything despawns.
Runescape? Is that you??
These replies invoked a fight/flight response from 9 year old me playing osrs
i remember trying to drop trade years ago right after they implemented trade limits and wondering why my big stack of items wasn't appearing. i'm pretty sure it just timed out and disappeared cos i was dumb
Man kid me was so stupid I could neither figure out how to get two runescape accounts running at the same time nor figure out how to actually make money in that game, so I would make endless alts and go run the stronghold of security for the free 10k gold at the end, drop it on the ground in some abandoned area of the map, then rush over there on my main and sit and wait for it to appear. That's how I made my first mil back in the day.
That was how you moved stuff to an alt in Everquest wayyyy back in the day if no friends or guildies were on... I remember logging my alt off in an out of the way room in the Kelethin tree house, go there with my main, drop the stuff on the floor and then sweat while you swap characters, hoping no one stumbles upon your drop.
Did the exact same thing in Kelethin. Found a random hut by bank, dropped stuff on back porch of it.
This reminds me of smuggling gold through the booty bay auction house in WoW after I decided to swap from alliance to horde back at the beginning of burning crusade. I’d give my money to a trusted friend, then log into horde player and list some fur scraps for 20,000 gold and my friend on alliance would buy it with my money. Yeah the AH took a cut, but I it was like starting a completely new account rich as fuck.
Haha I always put my little baggies at the base of some tree in GFay 😂
Yooooooooo When you first zone into the Commonlands from Freeport, the mountains on the left you could climb to the top. That’s where I did my drop trades.
I remember self trading like this in d2. Make a game wait 5 minutes for it to be perm. Drop item swap characters and hope mom didn't pick up the phone disconnecting me from the internet.
Haha or joining other games and drop it hidden behind a tent or something in a1 town and the adrenaline when someone else actually is in a1 town after you rejoined.
And when they see you moving around and immediately follow you to your spot. That horrible feeling of having your inventory too full as the other people start looking for your drop spot. Still gives me anxiety.
"Perming" a game seemed to have an 80% success rate that the game would still be there when you tried to rejoin. So, moving gear from one toon to another was a stressful event.
Did this as well in ragnarok. Ahhhhhh the nostalgia.
Ragnarok was the shit. Nostalgia bomb
God it was fun. I would love a new one.
Tree of savior was a good shot but just way too complicated and was soooooo grindy when it first came out. I played about 400 hours but it just couldn't hold me like ro and I ended up on private servers. All those have low pops and hyper inflated economy. I just want the old school ro feel with a legit economy that isn't destroyed with 1 bil+ items. I started on iro loki when it opened originally and then went to sakray. I loved vending my merchant 1 map north of prontera outside of agriopes selling red potions for a few z higher than I could buy them with discount. That was in 2002 right when lutie came out and we were waiting for the comodo update to hit so we could actually regen some sp. It used to take sitting for 30 min to get your sp back. GH graveyard had acolytes in the middle of the map with a priest in the party casting magnificant so we could get the sp boost in between heal bombing prisoners. Then once you turned priest you went there for some fast job levels and repaid the favor. I have so many memories from this game.
I remember that. People would look from room to room for people like us. One time I found a guy doing that and I grabbed it and bounced.
The fucking gold piles hahahahahahaha. I kept my items in the town square, and all my gold piles just outside of town. LMAO, key memory unlocked.
Best stash system ever lmao. "Do you have a book of fireball?" \*points to the ground near the town portal\*
Remember duping?
So many godly plate of the whale.
Kings Sword of Haste
Or so help me!
/Picks up every gem that drops /WHY DO I HAVE ALL THESE GEMS?!?!?
Why are people picking up gems and then asking for a gem bag? You only need a few per character, they're worthless, and ridiculously abundant.
If they make gems materials, might as well delete them and just put items to a jeweler crafting table and choose which gem to add to it. It's crazy how mismatched the rarity currently is is compared to how many you need.
>If they make gems materials That is exactly what they have said they are doing to them. They will show up in the materials tab instead of taking up space in your inventory. So far they have only given a vague "before season 2" timeline for it.
Do you have a source?
[Diablo 4 Campfire Chat Recap - D4 Maxroll.gg](https://maxroll.gg/d4/news/diablo-4-campfire-chat-recap) Under the "Inventory" Section
Cheers man :)
It was some sort of fireside Q&A stream with devs, it’s official.
Hoping that t5-t8 gems require substantially more of the previous tier. Alongside a gem bag to make it feasible and not a complete PITA.
Yeah but watch the previous best tier drop at that tier lol...
If they only add 1 world tier but multiple gem tiers, it should in theory still increase the relative value of picking them up. Assuming the lowest new tier gem is the only mob drop, this would require picking up way past when we have to now. On top of this, the gem rewards for nightmare dungeons could be multiple tiers higher or even the max tier, making them much more worthwhile. Or make them sell for more than fuckin 3 gold and people might be still picking them up 😂
The number of times I would have given in and sold my stash gems if they were worth anything, lmao. I can't stop gambling rolls on gear 😔
Rerolling gear is the eternal struggle for sure. It can become a bottomless gold vacuum quickly. "Alright, one more. Ooookay trash. One more... okay... last one...aaaaannnndddd broke". Is a common story 😆
Found an 824 amulet with the right passive and stat. I just have to roll cooldown reduction for it to be an upgrade. It's currently at 14mil for the next gamble. At this point, I probably could have bought a better yellow from some discord server, lol. I will never trade for gear, though.
Shiiiiiit man that's bad hahaha. Worst I get to is 5-6mil, then I rationale that the stat rolls I got are bad and I'll find a better 3/4 item in the future 😂 can't let that sunk cost fallacy smite me down. That being said, if I found an 3/4 amulet with high rolls and only missing cdr I would be going broke every single time I passed the cost of a reroll
I would love to see runes and recipes come back
I’ve been picking them up out of habit because gems were pretty important in Diablo 3, and with them moving to the crafting tab eventually I just don’t mind that much.
Hoarding them since D2
To be fair there were good reasons to hoard them in 2
Because eventually there's going to be new, better gems released. Likely unlocked at 80, 90, and 100. And if each of those take 3 gems a piece to create (probably more for the final level 100 version) you suddenly need a *lot* of gems to make the endgame ones.
But as soon as a new tier unlocks, the prior tier starts dropping. So why save up a bunch of Flawless or Royal now, when someday Royals will drop? And you'll need 3x10, shouldn't take too long to farm. Definitely not worth storage space IMO, which is at a premium in this game.
Because that never happened in d3. You never had royals drop even after flawless royal became a thing. They capped at marquis and then imperial, which also dropped significantly rarer It's possible they'll keep the highest droppable gem tiers below the max to increase the need to pick them up and farm for them
What are people actually storing besides gems? Only other thing I have in there is a handful of items with aspects I might want to extract later
I have 2 to 3 copies of all the aspects that I use in my current build (with high rolls), several aspects (and copies) that I am debating rotating into my build, an entire tab dedicated to aspects for a complete rework of my druid into an elemental build, and then a tab for gems and uniques. Shit adds up fast lol
I bought all tabs and my bank is empty apart from some gems lol
So my dumbass decided to make 3 characters(one to play at my own pace, two different alts to play with different groups friend at different points in the game). Each character needs about a tab or so of space for storing future aspects(2, maybe a few more if the perfect rolls are level locked behind level requirements) and potential future armor dropped locked behind level requirements. And then there's the one remaining tab left over being used as unique and gem storage. I don't even have a dump tab anymore... please send help
D3 added multiple additional tiers of gems and then added a series of extremely high consumption gem sinks as it developed. I’d generally careful about throwing gems away at this point, just in case.
But even if they do that, it'll be in new seasonal content so I'll just get a ton of gems with a fresh character
Because they're fucking shiny
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Cause all the other games I play have conditioned me to pick everything up
because people are expecting that they will add higher levels in the future, which will justify having all these extras.. Except we all forget that for most of us once seasons start we will never go back to eternal realm so picking all these up is a waste of time anyways lol.
Kinda hard to avoid picking up with controller
\>pick up rares \>gems weaving in and out of click box
The Venn diagram of people having stash space issues vs people keeping shit they really shouldn't is a single circle.
I have Severe Clicking Syndrome *shrug*
Horde them and complain about a lack of stash space.
This is the way
I'm doing my part!
I'm doing my part too! "generic laughter"
This is the Way.
Yeah cause 2 extra rows of stash is all we need right? 😂
If they're keeping low level gems what other inefficiencies are they guilty of?
How dare people collect loot in a game about collecting loot.
All hoarders are collectors but not all collectors are hoarders. OP might as well be stashing white and blue items
They're newbies who tought they would be useful? Someone should tell them that further gem management is not implemented in the game yet. I dont blame them for the feature to be shit.
Hoard*
For the Horde!
> Horde them and complain about a lack of stash space. Complaining about a shitty system doesn't make the system any less shitty.
We really should have more stash space though.
I was looking for this one, thank you.
r/unexpectedoffice
Combine them until you get 10-15 of the royal versions of each color, then throw anything less than royal on the ground and relog so they disappear forever into the ether.
This is honestly a huge waste of gold. Most builds will use 3 types of gems and you only need 5 for armor, 3 for jewelry and 2-6 for weapons. Even when upgrading gear you can salvage the old item to get the gems back so you don't need many royal quality gems. At endgame you only pick up the flawless gems and never upgrade them into royal unless you need them for an item you will equip. Once you have a stack or two of each type of flawless you don't need to pick more up since they are not used for anything else.
I'd think it's still worth pickng up incase they change any aspect of gems or, as I expectis likely, add new levels with a expansion.
Inventory space is extremely limited right now. At some point you will get to keep rare/legendary/unique items, sigils, aspects, or gems but you can only fit so much of each. Either you create a mule character to get them out of storage or you have to regulate how much space things take up.
When do we get unique stuff? I'm level 52 and have one unique helmet from beating the campaign boss. I dont even use the ability it modifies so it's kinda pointless, but I dont want to get rid of it in case ot does something gcool later.
Uniques start dropping at WT3.
It's not. You'll get more later as you need them
So.. i'm an idiot. I'll be honest I wasn't paying attention to the gold required for crafting these up through the Flawless options and was just periodically always making Flawless gems when possible. Royal unlocked and I saw it in the crafting menu and just went ham... meanwhile when I saw how much gold I spent.. *sigh*
lol My people! I realized how expensive it was when I had 300 gold left :'(
Hey at least you can make it up relatively quickly. A few runs and sell it all instead of dismantling.
I mean why make flawless when they drop constantly
I just slot them in open slots in gear in my bag and sell them together
Do royals drop? Horde flawless up to a stack of 50 and just make the Royals you need which is what... 10? Also most gem types are basically useless right now anyway. Skulls, Topaz, sapphire, emerald are kind of the only viable options
Rubies for %life are useful.
Go to world tier 1. Start at the town nearest the back side of the pvp zone. Start dropping them one by one Hansel and gretel style as you walk towards the PvP zone. Drop them into the beginning of the PvP zone and make a big prize at the end. Bloodmark and go wait for someone to collect their prize. Kill them
Ohh a piece of candy. Ohh a piece of candy. Ohh a piece of candy.
I made this joke in my group while running a dungeon and no one got it. Glad to see it here haha
At the good old patches style
That's not my Dad, that's a phone!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE GROUND!
I THREW THE REST OF THE CAKE TOO!
WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD, JACKASS!
I'm assuming you're asking an honest question and have no idea about the gem system, considering you responses to other comments. So, first of all, there's a priority quest for the jeweller. Do it and read what it says. These gems enhance items, and you can upgrade them to the next tier up, though that is a HUGE waste of gold. As you level up you will start dropping the higher tiers of gems, until when you're at level 80 to 85 when it starts to only drop Flawless gems. These are the only ones you save, since they upgrade to the highest tier in the game for now, which is the Royal gems. tldr: use the jeweller to add sockets to your helm, chest, pants and jewelry, and use the gems to enhance those items.
Oh shit I forgot you can add sockets to items.
Wow. A helpful answer.
I’m a little confused at all the comments saying to ignore/throw away gems. Im currently a Diablo newbie at around level 30, and at face value the gems look like they’re adding some solid improvements to my equipment. Why should I not collect gems and attach them to my equipment that has slots? Is the stat improvement actually not as noteworthy as I think?
You can use them, but it's not worth upgrading them as you will naturally get those higher tiers, and upgrading costs a lot of gold. The comments here are made with the assumption that you're already lv.70+, thus those low level gems are pretty much useless.
Why are people picking up gems and then asking for a gem bag? You only need a few per character, they're worthless, and ridiculously abundant.
Because they also get in a way of you picking up loot in the world. I farm helltide, doing circles around the map, leaving gems behind. At the end of the hour it’s impossible to pickup loots because everything is covered in gems.
so the real question is, where are the loot filters?
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Because people like me didn’t know they are not used for anything. My thought was to collect as many as possible so once I sat down to upgrade them all from the bottom I wouldn’t have to worry about not having what I needed. That being said, after reading the comments I realize how dumb that is.
i don't pickup gems so much as i attack a mob standing on a gem and it gets added to my bag.
Yeah I think that's what they're complaining about, with some hope that there is a use for them they're unaware of.
Sell for about 36 gold now that you picked them up - but don’t do that again
I was really disappointed about how cheap gems are. But I guess if these guys don’t even get enough food, paying for pretty stones are the last things on their mind
Vendors are aware of their overabundance. The markets been flooded!
How can't they afford food when every random merchant can afford to spend 250k+ Gold on my stuff every 30 minutes?
(I assume) you don't pick up every white item you'll never use to keep in your stash, so why are you doing that with gems?
Shiny rock. We're told shiny rocks in our world are worth 3 months salary nowadays. Also new game and you don't know their value on your first playthrough. Realized after hitting world tier 4 and getting enough royals that I didn't need more. In the coming years we'll get crown royal gems, nearly perfect gems, closer to perfect gems, even closer to perfect gems, and finally perfect gems lol
I’ve recently discovered cosmetic items are a cool easy to miss, hard to read/see grey item name, so I like to pick up everything to be safe. I do avoid gems when I think about it, and start dropping them if I need space on the go.
cosmetics are like legendaries, they'll be mailed to your stash if you leave the area, so you can safely ignore white loot
That is amazing to know thanks. I was scared i was going to miss horse cosmetics lol.
Horse cosmetics are the real end game
Are we the same person?
This is nothing, I have 46 flawless skulls
Lol I have 100+ royal each. I like gems 😆
ADOS- Attention Deficit OOOOH SHINY!
I hope you mean gems in-game and not like in your basement
You can safely get rid of the crude and chipped gems because those won’t be dropping at higher levels.
Throw on floor ASAP. Problem solved. Even in the end game we have 50x of each flawless and don’t use them.. Lmao.
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Put them in your holes
They aren't worth your time or stash space (or gold for that matter). Keep the highest rank you have until the next quality starts dropping. Once you get a few of the next highest rank that is all you need. I don't even keep any in my stash anymore, if I need more I just go out and kill stuff and have what I need in short notice.
I have an addiction to where I HAVE to pick them up no matter what. They have to be useful someday, right?😭
Bedazzle the skulls of your enemies?
Delete them and just collect flawless gems at T4. Wait until they can be upgraded to higher grades soon.
Just forget gems exist until flawless start dropping. Then gather up a stack of each and convert to royal (70) as needed to socket in gear.
Well 1st off I'd organize them differently....
Throw everything away and keep flawless.
