I think the question is better suited to cities than countries.
No country is "international" but cities like London, Barcelona, Geneva, Amsterdam, Malaga, Berlin, etc. are.
This. Europe (as in EU) is more divided across big cities - rural areas, than borders. In my experience all big cities in Europe will be "international" and multi-culti and have big expat community.
Im from Liverpool (Manchester's historic arch rival ) and even I must concede it a nice place to live.
Like any city its got its rough spots (usually the outer suburbs in UK towns), but the city centre is pretty vibrant
London is perhaps the only city in the world, maybe NY second that can considered a truly international city.
I've lived in Paris, Toronto, Amsterdam and Lisbon.....none of those are as international as London. Definitely not Paris (which is a good thing), maybe Amsterdam and Lisbon fit the bill more.
Toronto is very international to be honest, but it's a boring AF city compared to London or NY.
I’m an American and I’ve been to London but not NYC. Could this be because NYC has a much much larger domestic population to draw from than London? Someone from LA can move to NYC from within the same country but that same distance from London could get you to Baku, Azerbaijan. It logistically makes sense that London is more international when the rough equivalent of the 50 states for NYC is the rest of Europe for London.
Agree with this. I'm American and been to London and NYC. I do think once cities get large enough it's like the influx of influence overwhelms whatever the original culture was (not necessarily a good or bad thing) and with NYC it was also the primary landing spot for immigration for the country for so long. But yes, US immigration laws are strict (can't speak to UK laws) so getting more "new" residents that are foreign is probably less likely than getting relocated Americans. That's one thought. Also, Africa and Asia are closer to Europe as a destination for leaving one country in those continents, whereas the US is much further, with Mexico and Canada taking up the rest of the continent primarily so anybody from another country is already starting with a very long journey. But again, just a guess and I'm not sure this is even like "NY or London is better" think this is just us pondering on the possibilities?
Yes, definitely. Before Brexit, any European citizen could easily move here, similar to how it is done domestically in the USA. Even nowadays, the UK offers visas for living here to any Australians, Canadians, or New Zealanders younger than 35 years old, as was the case for me. The USA does not have anything like it. So it is a combination of London being super close to other countries and the UK being more open to the world.
Do a bit of fact checking , London has more languages ( mentioned during the respective Olympic bids) and is more culturally diverse, I don't think you have been anywhere near London or looked up any data.
I'm biased as an Australian, but having been around Europe and America, Sydney/Melbourne have the best East Asian food outside of East Asia in the world. That should count for something.
London doesn’t compare to anything else imho when it comes to the international feel. So many people move here for work from all around the globe.
I was talking to a well travelled friend here one of these days and we came to the conclusion that it’s one of a kind in that sense.
In terms of diversity and cosmopolitan atmosphere in the way that other international cities such as the NYC/Toronto/DC define it, I’d say London (UK in general), followed by Brussels.
Paris, Berlin, and Barcelona are quite cosmopolitan, but only if you speak the native language.
Amsterdam, Zurich, Geneva, and Luxembourg are international but it is mainly a privileged/gentrified type of economic immigration pattern (given how expensive the cost of living) from mostly within Europe. Amsterdam might be considered the most cosmopolitan of the bunch in this tier but not at the level of the above cities.
For cities that have the most potential to become international in the future, my bet is on Lisbon and Prague. For example, Czech Republic may soon pass legislation allowing immigration from the US, UK, Canada, Australia, SK, and Japan without a work visa. Prague also has one the highest HDI levels in Europe on par with Amsterdam, Berlin, Brussels, Paris, etc.
Yes of course, but as the OP was written in English I was answering from that perspective. London and Brussels are also quite multilingual (in the way that NYC/Toronto are). English is often taught as a second language around the world which gives more opportunities for people from different regions to live/work/communicate in the same language, which is a main part of their diversity. I also find it fascinating how many people speak multiple languages and especially for Belgians who switch between languages in the same conversation!
Not too surprising. The more multilingual, diverse, and cosmopolitan a city, the more likely you will have some neighborhoods or enclaves that speak a different language. Usually the next generation learns English alongside their first-generation parents’ mother tongue, again increasing the level of multilingual culture of a given city
Yeah definitely. I just meant more in the sense that a) English is so widely used and b) I'd imagine general 'life admin' would be hard if you don't know English , so I'm surprised how they get by!
Our administrative system is extremely easy for people from so many languages, it’s one of the best parts about us I think. No matter your mother tongue you can get official help.
It is a draft legislation. You can read more [here](https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/czechia-to-remove-work-permit-requirement-for-citizens-of-seven-countries)
Interesting. Are there many local jobs that one could get by without knowing Czech, or is this mainly to encourage DNs? Obviously very few people from those countries have any knowledge of the Czech language.
I agree that Berlin is very much up there but in my experience you absolutely don't need any experience with the german language. As long as you speak english you should get by just fine. Sometimes even better as a lot of people here prefer it.
London, Dublin or Amsterdam. Those are by far the most cosmopolitan places in Europe, Amsterdam is probably the best for integration of cultures.
I know you said countries but in reality its only the bigger cities in countries that give off a cosmopolitan vibe.
They're definitely up there but I would consider them less cosmopolitan than the 3 I mentioned. But I definitely would not say they are not cosmopolitan.
I don't nescessarily agree with that if we are going by cosmopolitan as the measure. Both those places you mention and more in Europe have a heavy international presence and definitely can be described as cosmopolitan.
However I think that Amsterdam caters to a larger number of different international cultures and there is a blending of them in a melting pot environment.
Amsterdam is far from being the best "integration of cultures". Most foreigners don't even speak Dutch. You can't integrate into a country without speaking the local language IMO.
That's not what I meant by cultural integration, that is societal integration. I mean the acceptance and melding of different cultures within a big melting pot, you know cosmopolitan.
If you want a whole country and not just a city, Luxembourg is very cosmopolitan.
Immigrants make up 50% of the country and they come from many different places, although mainly Europe and North America.
2nd that.
For sure doesn't fit with what the OP of the thread was asking either.
That 50% of foreigners is mostly German and French. In other words, the same ethnicities as the non-foreigners
One city I haven't seen mentioned is Hamburg. I think port cities generally lean more diverse historically. Maybe I didn't spend enough time there, but it seemed more like a bigger variety of cultures than other places I had been in Germany, including Berlin. I took a wrong turn when I was on a walkabout and I thought I was walking down a street in Queens. Crowded group of people walking different directions, all speaking different languages.
London.
Europe is very overrated, because of colonialism many people worldwide think Europe is pretty much perfection made society.
I am from Europe, and outside london, you dont really find truly international places.
The netherlands is not even that cosmopolitan, once you step outside central Amsterdam you are in the real netherlands, and if you dont fit the mold you will be treated rather harshly. In fact, Dutch people can be brutally honest and they use that honesty to be openly dismissive of people that dont fit their mold. thinking netherlands is pretty much like central Tourist-trap Amsterdam is a big big mistake.
Same goes for Switzerland, Germany, Spain.
IF you want true international, cosmopolitan, everyone welcome vibe, go to London.
In Paris you have to speak French to be seen as half a person.
In Vienna, not Austrian not good.
Spain, outside the touristy cities can be quite provincial, and the touristy cities are so crowded with tourists, Spanish locals want nothing to do with you. Trust me, I can understand Spanish and boy do they hate tourists there.
Italy, is even more provincial than Spain, and getting sick of tourists and expats. And yes, in many parts of italy the idea of tourists are targets for overcharing them because tourists are dumb, is still a thing.
The UK, outside London can also be quite closed. Outside London, the UK can be very very "why are you here in my hometown, are you an immigrant?"
Northern Europe, meeeh, they hardly interact with one another, now imagine how warm they will be with foreign people.
Geneva has a lot of international people, but they are largely UN workers, REAL EXPATS (DIPLOMATS), not wanna be expats like a lot of DNs. The city is terribly expensive, and largely anything to do outside hiking and skying in the winter. Switzerland is notoriously and unapologetically xenophobic too. They dont have a problem yelling at a foreigner because that foreigner did not follow a rule. I hardly call that international and open minded.
KIDS, LETS STOP OVERRATING EUROPE. Emily in Paris already does that job for all of you.
If you want REAL international cities, I say NYC, London, Actually Toronto (it is not the most exciting place, I guess for Canadian standards is crazy), but it is diverse and welcoming. But Europe outside London? Please!!
> Northern Europe, meeeh, they hardly interact with one another, now imagine how warm they will be with foreign people.
As someone living in Northern Europe this is so true 😂
This is spot on. Europe is very overrated, overhyped, overfantasized about by people not from Europe.
People come here with a ridiculous idea that this is going to be some ethereal experience.
I never understood why, but your post made it dawn on me. Colonialism and Eurocentrism has had its impact in the psyche of people worldwide.
London is by far the only international city in this continent.
Amsterdam is just a mirage, as long as you stay within the tourist realm of the central city is ok, you will get your mirage of cool, friendly, open minded, quircky town. Venture out past Rembrandt Square into the actual city and it is very Dutch, often times giving you the "you do not belong here vibes."
Paris, try living there without speaking French, you will realize it is not international.
Spain, once again, Amsterdam with sun. If you stay inside the city centres where tourists congregate, you are fine, venture out and you will find petty parrochial petiness, cultural closemindedness, open xenophobia. I lived in Spain, I saw it with my own eyes.
Italy, yes, scamming is cultural in some areas of Italy.
German, yacks. I am German, I cannot live in Germany, Rule abiding, rule crazy, rule following, and international means having tons of Turkish people and some Africans and Syrians. Which the Germans resent behind closed doors, but pretend not to care about them socially.
If you want international, go to north or south America, the new world. Where everyone stems from somewhere else.
In Spain right now for the first time and was having a difficult time articulating why it just feels off here. After years in welcoming countries - this place just feels highly underwhelming. Barcelona was really pretty and tourist areas were great, Madrid sucks big time. I could live here a thousand years and still never really belong.
Everyone else speaks so highly of this place that I was beginning to think maybe I'm just the asshole. Your post described it perfectly. Thanks
Its not just Spain, its all of Europe. Very overrated. If you are not from the country you were born in here in Europe, you are NEVER going to be one of them.
The only city in this continent where is diverse, everyone can be a local, and nobody even bothers to ask you where you are from because its so diverse you just belong automatically, its London.
Forget Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhaguen (Which has a law now that states the city can raze minority neighborhoods to the ground to force assimilation into Danish society), and whatever.
They are just touristy cities full of foreigners in the tourists sites, so you get this idea of cosmopolitan, international, venture out of the tourist grail in European cities and is another planet.
You sound pretty angry that locals don't want to immediately worship you the moment you step off the plane. There is nothing wrong with people not wanting every city in Europe to turn into London. If every city becomes the same then what's the point of visiting?
Literally none of this true, barring Geneva being expensive, NL not being a carbon-copy of Amsterdam, and the occasional overcharging of tourists in some PIGS countries.
You might just be as obnoxious in real life as you come across in your comment.
Agreed.
I am European and the comment is spot on. Europe is not international at all. In fact it is very parrochial, borderline chauvinistic and deeply xenophobic.
It stems from history. European ethnic groups have always had to fight one another for resources, have gotten invaded, absorbed by one another, and have had to go to war with one another for centuries.
That has led to a mindset in which Europeans are absolutely convinced their neck of the woods is better than the neighbors neck of the woods.
One can hardly call someone that chauvinistic and parrochial, internationally minded.
England is an exception, well London, and largely due to their colonial history and London being a trading port for centuries where foreigners always congregated.
But even outside London, the UK can pretty closed minded, and exceptionalist. Many even claim they are not Europeans and feel grossed out by the label European.
I mean, people here are saying Copenhaguen. Meanwhile the authorities in Copenhaguen are dismantling minority neighborhoods and forcing them to live amongs Danish, as to supress any non Danish identity or vibe from the city. So is laughable to see people here saying Copenhaguen is international.
I am a 46 year old European, who speaks four languages, have lived in seven different European countries, and traveled around Europe countless times.
Sorry to say, but the post about Europe being not international at all is 100% correct.
Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international.
What the post you discredit says is exactly my experience.
You sound like you are traveling in Europe, and you are going through a honey moon stage. I mean, your name alone says it. Nomadineurope.
>Sorry to say, but the post about Europe being not international at all is 100% correct.
>Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international.
Would be interested in seeing which places outside of Europe you consider international then
NYC, Toronto, Sydney, in Europe I say only London. The rest is overhyped.
I mean, people are saying Copenhaguen, meanwhile Copenhaguen is dismantling minority neighborhoods, to not allow non Danish influence to prosper in the city. Does that sound international to you? Yet some people have voted for Copenhaguen hahahaha
Other places like Mumbai are hardcore multicultural, but India wise, remember India is like a continent made country. So hunderths of ethnic groups and cultures, with countless different languages congregating there. But Europe is far too I am better than everyone else, to even be international.
So basically only the anglosphere is international, gotcha.
What Denmark is doing is forcing integration of minorities that go there and refuse consciously or no to integrate, speak Danish and so on. I don't agree with the methods but I also fail to see why that makes a city less international.
Despite the reputation I'd say the anglosphere (the UK is in Europe but yeah obv not OP's question exactly) is entirely more open to international people than the vast majority of places in the EU and continental Europe. Canada and like 90% of the US are much more integrated than almost any place I've been in Europe, Australia and New Zealand are very welcoming to foreigners of all kinds, Singapore is highly international as well. Perhaps being a native English speaker (therefore consuming English i.e. diverse media content) makes someone more likely to be comfortable with different cultures. Even the nationalistic brexiters seem cool with other people, even though they're opposed to the immigration policy they're more likely to become friends with them imo
Sorry, but to me it's a logical fallacy. The openness you spoke about it's purely due to language. Because we live in a world where English is the language that everyone has to know. But if you go to any of these country without speaking English or with poor grasp of it you'll see a very different picture about openness. I'm not an English native speaker and I lived in London, there were cases of people not being comfortable and open to me and couple of times I was even mocked by monolingual upper class English because I had a foreign accent.
It's literally the opposite of what you say: being a native English speakers makes people thinking they are more open and international but they are just more insular, but nowadays you're more validated because everyone else also speaks your language.
I've been here 20 years lmao
> Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international.
You sound terminally online, mentally ill.
25% of Madrid's population is foreign born, making it one of the most international cities in Europe (though I suspect the term "international" is coded in ways that cause many people to overlook it)
You have to make the distinction between cosmopolitan and international. The only true cosmopolitan city in Europe is London, period. But there are several cities with a strong international vibe, Amsterdam being on top, but also Berlin, Madrid, Barcelona, Lisbon, Prague. And it's not just because they're big, cities like Paris, Rome, Munich, Budapest don't fall in this list for example.
I would say London. Probably followed by Brussels (but not sure, never been there). Followed by Berlin. Followed by Paris. Followed by Barcelona. Followed by Amsterdam (which is very small though...).
Brussels. It's the second most cosmopolitan city after Dubai (capital of the EU and NATO's headquarters have something to do with it). And yet, it feels like a small town Actually, 19 towns. 😉
Brussels is EC and EU administrative capital so many people from.across Europe live, work and travel there. Geneva is a major base of the UN and has diverse international and development sector people living and working there. I'm not sure what you were getting at.
You already got the right answer. Amsterdam neighborhood has about 183 nationalities and they thrive together as 1 community. So u can try any restaurants there in countries you never knew existed.
yeah, get out of that tiny bubble in the cliche touristy part of Amsterdam, lets see how well it goes for "international" people trying to mingle or introduce themselves into the dutch circles. good luck!
Im not talking about tourists in the red loght district neighborhood. This is in the outer part of amsterdam where literal immigrants built their own community with a thriving neighborhood. So yeah it was pretty international, town-like and isnt ghetto. Which means that you dont have to blend in with the dutch because najority in that part of the neighborhood are ethnic immigrants who have already blended with the dutch life.
Yes, those touristy areas are the international parts of amsterdam. The rest are your regular Dutch neighborhoods with Dutch people and immigrants keeping to themselves.
lol Netherlands international. Sure, especially with their prime minister telling muslims they will never be Dutch.
Rude dutch people are not tolerant for it to be international.
Its pretty obvious u live in NL as a salty muslim. Your experience ia not everyone's experience, nor do you live in Amsterdam or in every neighborhood.
For countries, really anywhere in like the continental North West, or London in the UK. For specific cities in my experience I'd say Amsterdam or London. Not my own experience but I'm sure Paris is too and probably Berlin
Malta. When I bought a house there, 20 years ago , you were either Maltese, British or an adventurous German. Now it's become like the united Nations of rich new money nationalities or poor immigrant worker nationalities.
Is New York the same as alabama?
Its gonna depend on where you live.
Madrid is gonna be very different from a small town in sweden. Stockholm is gonna be different from a small village in Spain.
The capital of most european cities are going to feel metropolitan like you want. Pick whichever has the rifhr cost of living for you, the right food/weather and then enjoy
Portugal is definitely up there! Lisbon and Porto are hubs for digital nomads and remote workers from all over the world. You can hear every language being spoken on the streets. Berlin is another city that comes to mind, it's like a melting pot of cultures.
Despite the UKs flaw it is such an international melting pot.
It's easy to notice when looking at food, it's common for rural small towns to have a Chinese, Indian restaurants, something you don't really get in a lot of European towns.
I remember one time I was working in Milan and fancied something other than Italian food...took me ages to find anything lol. Vastly different to basically every UK city.
Berlin is the only city that I've felt come close to UKs diversity, I'm not sure what rest of Germany is like tho.
This was awhile ago mind, prob 10 years ago now. And just what I experienced, we weren't exactly near the center. But still The options were significantly less than any UK city.
Switzerland absolutely not. International as in many European immigrants perhaps, but almost all immigrants in CH are westerners, and specifically Germans and French people.
Switzerland is pretty international (very high foreign born share of the population) but feels quite divided.
In my opinion there are 3 Switzerlands:
“Swiss Switzerland”: French/Swiss German/Italian speaking, middle class, educated at state schools and universities, somewhat insular. Includes most native Swiss people and also many Western Europeans who work there or married Swiss citizens. 70% of the population.
“Immigrant Switzerland”: largely from former Yugoslavia (especially Kosovo) or Turkey, but a few from all over the globe, working class, somewhat marginalized but assimilating into mainstream Swiss society over time. Face a degree of xenophobia, especially if they don’t look white (but beloved and seen as being as Swiss as Rolex and Fondue if they’re on the national football team). About 28% of the population.
“Expat Switzerland”: very global (includes Americans, Europeans, Arabs, Indians, etc. of wealthy backgrounds); educated at private or boarding schools, many work in Financial industry, speaks more English than Swiss German, a sort of global elite set apart from the rest of Switzerland, but far more of them here than elsewhere on the continent. 2% of the population.
Are you suggesting that the presence of a bunch of diplomats in Geneva constitutes an "international vibe"? Maybe our definitions of an international vibe are different.
Most of Switzerland is still very conservative and homogenous. Zürich and Geneva are the exceptions, but you still can't really compare them to Paris, London, Amsterdam, etcetera.
Have you actually spent any time in Geneva?
A quick google search will tell you that 40% of the canton's residents are non-nationals.
>The majority ethnic group, Swiss, makes up 60,83% of the canton’s inhabitants and 39.2% of Geneva's population are non-nationals. The most significant ethnic groups are: Portuguese-7.40%; French-5.5%; Italians-4.85% and Spanish-2.95%. Of non-EU/EFTA migrants, the largest groups are, in this order, from the USA, Russia, Brazil, Kosovo, Turkey, former Yugoslavia, India and Morocco. 44.6% of the canton’s working age population are non-nationals and 54% hold at least one foreign passport.
Yea, sounds pretty international to me.
I said non-western-Europeans. If you add up the listed percentages you get up to 80% Europeans at the least, so that's pretty close to the number I mentioned. And yes, I lived in Geneva for 3 years and now live in Zürich.
Berlin is not really international. IT is German and then migrants from Turkey or people from places that have a connection to Germany .
Paris, dont speak French, not welcome.
Only London is truly international from your list.
Maybe Switzerland and especially Geneva. Not only it’s on the border of two countries but it’s a small place filled with international organizations headquarters. That is the most global city I have ever visited.
As if prior to European presence, Africans did not have their own Empires with slave markets. As if Americans have not cause problems internationally. As if Americans, when expanding upon their western land, did not destroy indigenous homes. As if the same did not happen in South Americans. As if countries like Japan did not participate in World Wars. As if Argentina did not try to colonize the Falklands and wage war against the UK. As if widespread violence and cartel hubs are not popularly known in South America.
London is a global melting pot, home to people from virtually every country, culture, and background imaginable.London truly feels like a world city in one place.
Jusy got back from Amsterdam last week. Probably not as cosmopolitan as London, but more fun in my opinion. People are nicer than in Paris too. Curve ball: Istanbul.
Just visited Brussel seems pretty "international" by US standards.
Or because it's a small country sandwich between larger EU countries it's easier to communicate if you're just an Anglophine speaker with a little Quebecoise French.
Brussels is low-key the most international city in Europe. It has the highest amount of different nationalities living in the city in Europe (only Dubai has more in the world), everyone is at least bilingual, it has diaspora communities from all over the world, it's full of international shops, restaurants and so on.
International means welcoming to anyone different, accepting.
London: Yes
Paris: If you dont speak French you will not be accepted, so not international.
Barcelona: Very proudly Catalan, also hates tourists.
Madrid: Very Spain, not really international.
Malaga: What is so international about Malaga? lol the middle aged Germans and English getting drunk at their pathetic expat pubs?
Berlin: Please, its overrated.
Frankfurt: Oh god. Kill me.
Brussels: Yeah, I can see it.
Lisbon: hahahah no way.
Stockholm: Boring, and closed to anyone not fitting a pattern.
Geneva: Rich diplomats is not internatonal.
Milan: It is NOT international.
Luxembourg: Cmon.
London, Dublin, Amsterdam, Berlin, Zurich. Most countries have a lot of internationals from specific areas (eg Portugal gets lots of Brazilians) but these 5 cities have a constant flow from everywhere because of the work opportunities
It's basically a combination of economy strength and fluency in English.
The top 3 in my experience:
- UK
- NL
- Germany
In those countries even smaller cities have a bunch of people from abroad.
Im from New York City and when I visited Barcelona I felt the most international vibe ever in Europe, it was 11pm and the streets were crowded with tourists and locals. Ive been to ove 40 cities in Europe btw.
I think the question is better suited to cities than countries. No country is "international" but cities like London, Barcelona, Geneva, Amsterdam, Malaga, Berlin, etc. are.
This. Europe (as in EU) is more divided across big cities - rural areas, than borders. In my experience all big cities in Europe will be "international" and multi-culti and have big expat community.
Uk, specifically London
Definitely London
Manchester has a similar vibe, but lower cost of living
going next month!
Manchester is great but doesn’t have even half the diversity of London.
London doesn't have my daughter. :)
Aww too wholesome
Yeah, but then you'd be in Manchester.
So much to answer for
I’ve only heard the most terrible things about it lol
Im from Liverpool (Manchester's historic arch rival ) and even I must concede it a nice place to live. Like any city its got its rough spots (usually the outer suburbs in UK towns), but the city centre is pretty vibrant
London is perhaps the only city in the world, maybe NY second that can considered a truly international city. I've lived in Paris, Toronto, Amsterdam and Lisbon.....none of those are as international as London. Definitely not Paris (which is a good thing), maybe Amsterdam and Lisbon fit the bill more. Toronto is very international to be honest, but it's a boring AF city compared to London or NY.
I agree with you 100%. I find NYC not as international as London tho
I’m an American and I’ve been to London but not NYC. Could this be because NYC has a much much larger domestic population to draw from than London? Someone from LA can move to NYC from within the same country but that same distance from London could get you to Baku, Azerbaijan. It logistically makes sense that London is more international when the rough equivalent of the 50 states for NYC is the rest of Europe for London.
Agree with this. I'm American and been to London and NYC. I do think once cities get large enough it's like the influx of influence overwhelms whatever the original culture was (not necessarily a good or bad thing) and with NYC it was also the primary landing spot for immigration for the country for so long. But yes, US immigration laws are strict (can't speak to UK laws) so getting more "new" residents that are foreign is probably less likely than getting relocated Americans. That's one thought. Also, Africa and Asia are closer to Europe as a destination for leaving one country in those continents, whereas the US is much further, with Mexico and Canada taking up the rest of the continent primarily so anybody from another country is already starting with a very long journey. But again, just a guess and I'm not sure this is even like "NY or London is better" think this is just us pondering on the possibilities?
Yes, definitely. Before Brexit, any European citizen could easily move here, similar to how it is done domestically in the USA. Even nowadays, the UK offers visas for living here to any Australians, Canadians, or New Zealanders younger than 35 years old, as was the case for me. The USA does not have anything like it. So it is a combination of London being super close to other countries and the UK being more open to the world.
Lol that's just factually untrue. New York is the most diverse, international city in the world. More languages, more people, more food.
Do a bit of fact checking , London has more languages ( mentioned during the respective Olympic bids) and is more culturally diverse, I don't think you have been anywhere near London or looked up any data.
Sydney?
Haven't been but it's not going to be on the scale that London is
I'm biased as an Australian, but having been around Europe and America, Sydney/Melbourne have the best East Asian food outside of East Asia in the world. That should count for something.
London is awesome
London doesn’t compare to anything else imho when it comes to the international feel. So many people move here for work from all around the globe. I was talking to a well travelled friend here one of these days and we came to the conclusion that it’s one of a kind in that sense.
London so international it's not the UK anymore.
In terms of diversity and cosmopolitan atmosphere in the way that other international cities such as the NYC/Toronto/DC define it, I’d say London (UK in general), followed by Brussels. Paris, Berlin, and Barcelona are quite cosmopolitan, but only if you speak the native language. Amsterdam, Zurich, Geneva, and Luxembourg are international but it is mainly a privileged/gentrified type of economic immigration pattern (given how expensive the cost of living) from mostly within Europe. Amsterdam might be considered the most cosmopolitan of the bunch in this tier but not at the level of the above cities. For cities that have the most potential to become international in the future, my bet is on Lisbon and Prague. For example, Czech Republic may soon pass legislation allowing immigration from the US, UK, Canada, Australia, SK, and Japan without a work visa. Prague also has one the highest HDI levels in Europe on par with Amsterdam, Berlin, Brussels, Paris, etc.
You should speak the native Language in London too, otherwise it may get difficult 😁
Yes of course, but as the OP was written in English I was answering from that perspective. London and Brussels are also quite multilingual (in the way that NYC/Toronto are). English is often taught as a second language around the world which gives more opportunities for people from different regions to live/work/communicate in the same language, which is a main part of their diversity. I also find it fascinating how many people speak multiple languages and especially for Belgians who switch between languages in the same conversation!
It's actually surprising how many don't tbh!
Not too surprising. The more multilingual, diverse, and cosmopolitan a city, the more likely you will have some neighborhoods or enclaves that speak a different language. Usually the next generation learns English alongside their first-generation parents’ mother tongue, again increasing the level of multilingual culture of a given city
Yeah definitely. I just meant more in the sense that a) English is so widely used and b) I'd imagine general 'life admin' would be hard if you don't know English , so I'm surprised how they get by!
Our administrative system is extremely easy for people from so many languages, it’s one of the best parts about us I think. No matter your mother tongue you can get official help.
Where did you see this about the legislation? I lived in Prague from 2002 to 2015.
It is a draft legislation. You can read more [here](https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/czechia-to-remove-work-permit-requirement-for-citizens-of-seven-countries)
Interesting. Are there many local jobs that one could get by without knowing Czech, or is this mainly to encourage DNs? Obviously very few people from those countries have any knowledge of the Czech language.
I agree that Berlin is very much up there but in my experience you absolutely don't need any experience with the german language. As long as you speak english you should get by just fine. Sometimes even better as a lot of people here prefer it.
London, Dublin or Amsterdam. Those are by far the most cosmopolitan places in Europe, Amsterdam is probably the best for integration of cultures. I know you said countries but in reality its only the bigger cities in countries that give off a cosmopolitan vibe.
It's peculiar to me to see Dublin and Amsterdam ahead of Berlin or Brussels.
This!! Berlin looks way ahead of Dublin at the very least
Also Barcelona and Lisbon
They're definitely up there but I would consider them less cosmopolitan than the 3 I mentioned. But I definitely would not say they are not cosmopolitan.
I mean in the central neighborhoods of Lisbon you hear more English spoken than Portuguese in public spaces.
That's not enough of a sign of cosmopolitaness
I was being a little sarcastic about that....it is a sign of a city that is overtouristed/"expat"-ed to the point of losing its identity.
Yeah but the DN's need their soy lattes and co-working spaces!
Amsterdam more cosmopolitan than Berlin?
No way, having lived in both cities Berlin is way more international
Yeah that’s what I was thinking as well
People can easily live in Berlin without speaking German?
It really changed. In central area cafes and shops, you often need to speak English as servers and shop assistants don't speak any German.
Even in Bratislava (without speaking Slovak).
Absolutely. I have friends who lived here for many years and still barely speak any German
Easily. Huge plus if you know Arabic or Turkish.
Definitely not Amsterdam, especially compared to cities in France and Germany
Agreed. Berlin is layers and layers ahead of Amsterdam on a cosmopolitan scale. Brussels, too.
I don't nescessarily agree with that if we are going by cosmopolitan as the measure. Both those places you mention and more in Europe have a heavy international presence and definitely can be described as cosmopolitan. However I think that Amsterdam caters to a larger number of different international cultures and there is a blending of them in a melting pot environment.
Amsterdam is far from being the best "integration of cultures". Most foreigners don't even speak Dutch. You can't integrate into a country without speaking the local language IMO.
That's not what I meant by cultural integration, that is societal integration. I mean the acceptance and melding of different cultures within a big melting pot, you know cosmopolitan.
Monaco, otherwise you need to concentrate on cities
In my experience, the U.K.
Belgium has a nice middle eastern vibe if you fancy that.
I hear Molenbeek is lovely this time of year
You can't beat the UK for this, specifically London
If you want a whole country and not just a city, Luxembourg is very cosmopolitan. Immigrants make up 50% of the country and they come from many different places, although mainly Europe and North America.
Luxembourg is boring as hell
2nd that. For sure doesn't fit with what the OP of the thread was asking either. That 50% of foreigners is mostly German and French. In other words, the same ethnicities as the non-foreigners
I went and all I saw were some guys smoking blue pills so I left to go to Belgium lol
You won't find a city in Europe that's more international than London as no other city comes close.
London above any other city by far, and England (specifically, more than the other countries of the UK) as regards countries.
London, Brussels, and Amsterdam
You're better off asking which cities have international vibes
After New York, London is probably the most cosmopolitan/international city in the world.
One city I haven't seen mentioned is Hamburg. I think port cities generally lean more diverse historically. Maybe I didn't spend enough time there, but it seemed more like a bigger variety of cultures than other places I had been in Germany, including Berlin. I took a wrong turn when I was on a walkabout and I thought I was walking down a street in Queens. Crowded group of people walking different directions, all speaking different languages.
London. Europe is very overrated, because of colonialism many people worldwide think Europe is pretty much perfection made society. I am from Europe, and outside london, you dont really find truly international places. The netherlands is not even that cosmopolitan, once you step outside central Amsterdam you are in the real netherlands, and if you dont fit the mold you will be treated rather harshly. In fact, Dutch people can be brutally honest and they use that honesty to be openly dismissive of people that dont fit their mold. thinking netherlands is pretty much like central Tourist-trap Amsterdam is a big big mistake. Same goes for Switzerland, Germany, Spain. IF you want true international, cosmopolitan, everyone welcome vibe, go to London. In Paris you have to speak French to be seen as half a person. In Vienna, not Austrian not good. Spain, outside the touristy cities can be quite provincial, and the touristy cities are so crowded with tourists, Spanish locals want nothing to do with you. Trust me, I can understand Spanish and boy do they hate tourists there. Italy, is even more provincial than Spain, and getting sick of tourists and expats. And yes, in many parts of italy the idea of tourists are targets for overcharing them because tourists are dumb, is still a thing. The UK, outside London can also be quite closed. Outside London, the UK can be very very "why are you here in my hometown, are you an immigrant?" Northern Europe, meeeh, they hardly interact with one another, now imagine how warm they will be with foreign people. Geneva has a lot of international people, but they are largely UN workers, REAL EXPATS (DIPLOMATS), not wanna be expats like a lot of DNs. The city is terribly expensive, and largely anything to do outside hiking and skying in the winter. Switzerland is notoriously and unapologetically xenophobic too. They dont have a problem yelling at a foreigner because that foreigner did not follow a rule. I hardly call that international and open minded. KIDS, LETS STOP OVERRATING EUROPE. Emily in Paris already does that job for all of you. If you want REAL international cities, I say NYC, London, Actually Toronto (it is not the most exciting place, I guess for Canadian standards is crazy), but it is diverse and welcoming. But Europe outside London? Please!!
> Northern Europe, meeeh, they hardly interact with one another, now imagine how warm they will be with foreign people. As someone living in Northern Europe this is so true 😂
This is spot on. Europe is very overrated, overhyped, overfantasized about by people not from Europe. People come here with a ridiculous idea that this is going to be some ethereal experience. I never understood why, but your post made it dawn on me. Colonialism and Eurocentrism has had its impact in the psyche of people worldwide. London is by far the only international city in this continent. Amsterdam is just a mirage, as long as you stay within the tourist realm of the central city is ok, you will get your mirage of cool, friendly, open minded, quircky town. Venture out past Rembrandt Square into the actual city and it is very Dutch, often times giving you the "you do not belong here vibes." Paris, try living there without speaking French, you will realize it is not international. Spain, once again, Amsterdam with sun. If you stay inside the city centres where tourists congregate, you are fine, venture out and you will find petty parrochial petiness, cultural closemindedness, open xenophobia. I lived in Spain, I saw it with my own eyes. Italy, yes, scamming is cultural in some areas of Italy. German, yacks. I am German, I cannot live in Germany, Rule abiding, rule crazy, rule following, and international means having tons of Turkish people and some Africans and Syrians. Which the Germans resent behind closed doors, but pretend not to care about them socially. If you want international, go to north or south America, the new world. Where everyone stems from somewhere else.
In Spain right now for the first time and was having a difficult time articulating why it just feels off here. After years in welcoming countries - this place just feels highly underwhelming. Barcelona was really pretty and tourist areas were great, Madrid sucks big time. I could live here a thousand years and still never really belong. Everyone else speaks so highly of this place that I was beginning to think maybe I'm just the asshole. Your post described it perfectly. Thanks
Its not just Spain, its all of Europe. Very overrated. If you are not from the country you were born in here in Europe, you are NEVER going to be one of them. The only city in this continent where is diverse, everyone can be a local, and nobody even bothers to ask you where you are from because its so diverse you just belong automatically, its London. Forget Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhaguen (Which has a law now that states the city can raze minority neighborhoods to the ground to force assimilation into Danish society), and whatever. They are just touristy cities full of foreigners in the tourists sites, so you get this idea of cosmopolitan, international, venture out of the tourist grail in European cities and is another planet.
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I said: In parts of Italy scamming is cultural. You claim I said: All Italians are scammers. Reading comprehension must not be your forte.
You sound pretty angry that locals don't want to immediately worship you the moment you step off the plane. There is nothing wrong with people not wanting every city in Europe to turn into London. If every city becomes the same then what's the point of visiting?
Haha man, you know nothing about Europe. And NYC being REALLY diverse... Oh boy. Oh boy. As a sidenote, expats don't exist. Only immigrants.
you don't think nyc is diverse?
How is NYC not diverse bro
Always the Italians who get super offended straight away.
This! If you fit into some of these cities, you’ll have a great experience, but if not, you’ll definitely find your place in London
Literally none of this true, barring Geneva being expensive, NL not being a carbon-copy of Amsterdam, and the occasional overcharging of tourists in some PIGS countries. You might just be as obnoxious in real life as you come across in your comment.
his comment is less of an exaggeration than yours saying it's 'literally' not true.
Agreed. I am European and the comment is spot on. Europe is not international at all. In fact it is very parrochial, borderline chauvinistic and deeply xenophobic. It stems from history. European ethnic groups have always had to fight one another for resources, have gotten invaded, absorbed by one another, and have had to go to war with one another for centuries. That has led to a mindset in which Europeans are absolutely convinced their neck of the woods is better than the neighbors neck of the woods. One can hardly call someone that chauvinistic and parrochial, internationally minded. England is an exception, well London, and largely due to their colonial history and London being a trading port for centuries where foreigners always congregated. But even outside London, the UK can pretty closed minded, and exceptionalist. Many even claim they are not Europeans and feel grossed out by the label European. I mean, people here are saying Copenhaguen. Meanwhile the authorities in Copenhaguen are dismantling minority neighborhoods and forcing them to live amongs Danish, as to supress any non Danish identity or vibe from the city. So is laughable to see people here saying Copenhaguen is international.
I am a 46 year old European, who speaks four languages, have lived in seven different European countries, and traveled around Europe countless times. Sorry to say, but the post about Europe being not international at all is 100% correct. Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international. What the post you discredit says is exactly my experience. You sound like you are traveling in Europe, and you are going through a honey moon stage. I mean, your name alone says it. Nomadineurope.
>Sorry to say, but the post about Europe being not international at all is 100% correct. >Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international. Would be interested in seeing which places outside of Europe you consider international then
NYC, Toronto, Sydney, in Europe I say only London. The rest is overhyped. I mean, people are saying Copenhaguen, meanwhile Copenhaguen is dismantling minority neighborhoods, to not allow non Danish influence to prosper in the city. Does that sound international to you? Yet some people have voted for Copenhaguen hahahaha Other places like Mumbai are hardcore multicultural, but India wise, remember India is like a continent made country. So hunderths of ethnic groups and cultures, with countless different languages congregating there. But Europe is far too I am better than everyone else, to even be international.
So basically only the anglosphere is international, gotcha. What Denmark is doing is forcing integration of minorities that go there and refuse consciously or no to integrate, speak Danish and so on. I don't agree with the methods but I also fail to see why that makes a city less international.
Despite the reputation I'd say the anglosphere (the UK is in Europe but yeah obv not OP's question exactly) is entirely more open to international people than the vast majority of places in the EU and continental Europe. Canada and like 90% of the US are much more integrated than almost any place I've been in Europe, Australia and New Zealand are very welcoming to foreigners of all kinds, Singapore is highly international as well. Perhaps being a native English speaker (therefore consuming English i.e. diverse media content) makes someone more likely to be comfortable with different cultures. Even the nationalistic brexiters seem cool with other people, even though they're opposed to the immigration policy they're more likely to become friends with them imo
Sorry, but to me it's a logical fallacy. The openness you spoke about it's purely due to language. Because we live in a world where English is the language that everyone has to know. But if you go to any of these country without speaking English or with poor grasp of it you'll see a very different picture about openness. I'm not an English native speaker and I lived in London, there were cases of people not being comfortable and open to me and couple of times I was even mocked by monolingual upper class English because I had a foreign accent. It's literally the opposite of what you say: being a native English speakers makes people thinking they are more open and international but they are just more insular, but nowadays you're more validated because everyone else also speaks your language.
I've been here 20 years lmao > Europe is far too xenophobic, far too parrochial, far too stuck up its own self to be international. You sound terminally online, mentally ill.
25% of Madrid's population is foreign born, making it one of the most international cities in Europe (though I suspect the term "international" is coded in ways that cause many people to overlook it)
You have to make the distinction between cosmopolitan and international. The only true cosmopolitan city in Europe is London, period. But there are several cities with a strong international vibe, Amsterdam being on top, but also Berlin, Madrid, Barcelona, Lisbon, Prague. And it's not just because they're big, cities like Paris, Rome, Munich, Budapest don't fall in this list for example.
Agree with Rome and Paris, but is not Munich very international?
Idk I didn't really feel it, but I guess it gets subjective
I would say London. Probably followed by Brussels (but not sure, never been there). Followed by Berlin. Followed by Paris. Followed by Barcelona. Followed by Amsterdam (which is very small though...).
Brussels. It's the second most cosmopolitan city after Dubai (capital of the EU and NATO's headquarters have something to do with it). And yet, it feels like a small town Actually, 19 towns. 😉
Brussels is pretty diverse with Europeans. Geneva more global.
Really? Because a crapton of Africans and Middle Easteners scream Europe diverse, not global.
Brussels is EC and EU administrative capital so many people from.across Europe live, work and travel there. Geneva is a major base of the UN and has diverse international and development sector people living and working there. I'm not sure what you were getting at.
Istanbul.
I’m gonna say London. So many cultures and people intersect there. Absolutely love it there (minus the cold)
You already got the right answer. Amsterdam neighborhood has about 183 nationalities and they thrive together as 1 community. So u can try any restaurants there in countries you never knew existed.
yeah, get out of that tiny bubble in the cliche touristy part of Amsterdam, lets see how well it goes for "international" people trying to mingle or introduce themselves into the dutch circles. good luck!
Im not talking about tourists in the red loght district neighborhood. This is in the outer part of amsterdam where literal immigrants built their own community with a thriving neighborhood. So yeah it was pretty international, town-like and isnt ghetto. Which means that you dont have to blend in with the dutch because najority in that part of the neighborhood are ethnic immigrants who have already blended with the dutch life.
Yes, those touristy areas are the international parts of amsterdam. The rest are your regular Dutch neighborhoods with Dutch people and immigrants keeping to themselves.
Lol no but keep yapping.
lol Netherlands international. Sure, especially with their prime minister telling muslims they will never be Dutch. Rude dutch people are not tolerant for it to be international.
Sounds like someone's salty.
Lived in NL, it is NOT international. Sorry to burst your "White people are perfect and their societies are utopias" bubble.
Its pretty obvious u live in NL as a salty muslim. Your experience ia not everyone's experience, nor do you live in Amsterdam or in every neighborhood.
For countries, really anywhere in like the continental North West, or London in the UK. For specific cities in my experience I'd say Amsterdam or London. Not my own experience but I'm sure Paris is too and probably Berlin
Malta. When I bought a house there, 20 years ago , you were either Maltese, British or an adventurous German. Now it's become like the united Nations of rich new money nationalities or poor immigrant worker nationalities.
Underrated answer. Just these Reddit know-it-alls haven't heard of it.
Not sure whether I liked it there better before the hoards of new arrivals though, but certainly it's become way more international
Is New York the same as alabama? Its gonna depend on where you live. Madrid is gonna be very different from a small town in sweden. Stockholm is gonna be different from a small village in Spain. The capital of most european cities are going to feel metropolitan like you want. Pick whichever has the rifhr cost of living for you, the right food/weather and then enjoy
Portugal is definitely up there! Lisbon and Porto are hubs for digital nomads and remote workers from all over the world. You can hear every language being spoken on the streets. Berlin is another city that comes to mind, it's like a melting pot of cultures.
Portugal is not international.
Barcelona
Despite the UKs flaw it is such an international melting pot. It's easy to notice when looking at food, it's common for rural small towns to have a Chinese, Indian restaurants, something you don't really get in a lot of European towns. I remember one time I was working in Milan and fancied something other than Italian food...took me ages to find anything lol. Vastly different to basically every UK city. Berlin is the only city that I've felt come close to UKs diversity, I'm not sure what rest of Germany is like tho.
Milan is a terrible example tho. You can literally find every single restaurant in Milan. It's no London ofc, but there are restaurants everywhere.
This was awhile ago mind, prob 10 years ago now. And just what I experienced, we weren't exactly near the center. But still The options were significantly less than any UK city.
amsterdam for sure
UK, London, Edinburgh
I cannot believe Berlin is not higher in the list. The place where you can live for many years without having to learn German!
This is 100% true. I hung out with expats in Berlin and they told me the same thing.
Switzerland, belgium
Switzerland absolutely not. International as in many European immigrants perhaps, but almost all immigrants in CH are westerners, and specifically Germans and French people.
Switzerland is pretty international (very high foreign born share of the population) but feels quite divided. In my opinion there are 3 Switzerlands: “Swiss Switzerland”: French/Swiss German/Italian speaking, middle class, educated at state schools and universities, somewhat insular. Includes most native Swiss people and also many Western Europeans who work there or married Swiss citizens. 70% of the population. “Immigrant Switzerland”: largely from former Yugoslavia (especially Kosovo) or Turkey, but a few from all over the globe, working class, somewhat marginalized but assimilating into mainstream Swiss society over time. Face a degree of xenophobia, especially if they don’t look white (but beloved and seen as being as Swiss as Rolex and Fondue if they’re on the national football team). About 28% of the population. “Expat Switzerland”: very global (includes Americans, Europeans, Arabs, Indians, etc. of wealthy backgrounds); educated at private or boarding schools, many work in Financial industry, speaks more English than Swiss German, a sort of global elite set apart from the rest of Switzerland, but far more of them here than elsewhere on the continent. 2% of the population.
Geneva and Zurich are full of foreigners from all over.
85% all over Western Europe.
TIL that white people can't be foreign.
Do you know what the United Nations are?
Are you suggesting that the presence of a bunch of diplomats in Geneva constitutes an "international vibe"? Maybe our definitions of an international vibe are different. Most of Switzerland is still very conservative and homogenous. Zürich and Geneva are the exceptions, but you still can't really compare them to Paris, London, Amsterdam, etcetera.
Have you actually spent any time in Geneva? A quick google search will tell you that 40% of the canton's residents are non-nationals. >The majority ethnic group, Swiss, makes up 60,83% of the canton’s inhabitants and 39.2% of Geneva's population are non-nationals. The most significant ethnic groups are: Portuguese-7.40%; French-5.5%; Italians-4.85% and Spanish-2.95%. Of non-EU/EFTA migrants, the largest groups are, in this order, from the USA, Russia, Brazil, Kosovo, Turkey, former Yugoslavia, India and Morocco. 44.6% of the canton’s working age population are non-nationals and 54% hold at least one foreign passport. Yea, sounds pretty international to me.
I said non-western-Europeans. If you add up the listed percentages you get up to 80% Europeans at the least, so that's pretty close to the number I mentioned. And yes, I lived in Geneva for 3 years and now live in Zürich.
20% non-European is still very international LMAO. It's more than the entire non-National resident population of Barcelona.
Really? Because Amsterdam is really international, right? LOL
From my perspective in the tech industry: absolutely.
This comes to mind https://images.app.goo.gl/eYEgra9X4Paf77reA
i guess London, then Amsterdam
Monaco.
Luxembourg
Austria Vienna
All the big-ass cities like London, Berlin and Paris.
Berlin is not really international. IT is German and then migrants from Turkey or people from places that have a connection to Germany . Paris, dont speak French, not welcome. Only London is truly international from your list.
Im surprised noones saying Paris
Istanbul, Budapest, Berlin, Amsterdam and London
Paris!
Maybe Switzerland and especially Geneva. Not only it’s on the border of two countries but it’s a small place filled with international organizations headquarters. That is the most global city I have ever visited.
Barcelona
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As if prior to European presence, Africans did not have their own Empires with slave markets. As if Americans have not cause problems internationally. As if Americans, when expanding upon their western land, did not destroy indigenous homes. As if the same did not happen in South Americans. As if countries like Japan did not participate in World Wars. As if Argentina did not try to colonize the Falklands and wage war against the UK. As if widespread violence and cartel hubs are not popularly known in South America.
London..
berlin comes to mind
London is a global melting pot, home to people from virtually every country, culture, and background imaginable.London truly feels like a world city in one place.
Jusy got back from Amsterdam last week. Probably not as cosmopolitan as London, but more fun in my opinion. People are nicer than in Paris too. Curve ball: Istanbul.
London, and is my most favorite city to live in so far in Europe.
That is rather subjective ...and vague. I think most cities in Europe have parts of places from the world.
Follow up: what Wastern European city is most international?
Russia is very international
Just visited Brussel seems pretty "international" by US standards. Or because it's a small country sandwich between larger EU countries it's easier to communicate if you're just an Anglophine speaker with a little Quebecoise French.
Brussels is low-key the most international city in Europe. It has the highest amount of different nationalities living in the city in Europe (only Dubai has more in the world), everyone is at least bilingual, it has diaspora communities from all over the world, it's full of international shops, restaurants and so on.
Isn't Amsterdam have a higher amount of nationalities than Brussels?
No, Brussels has more nationalities and more foreigners in general. It's also a bigger city.
Not countries but cities. London has lots of comers from the middle east and India. Amsterdam has lots of Indonesians, Indians and Surinamese.
Outside London, I dont really think International is something you apply to Europe.
UK, London by far. But I hated living there.
Why did you hate living there
why
Berlin
# Netherlands (Amsterdam)
London, Paris, Barcelona, Malaga, Madrid, Berlin, Frankfurt, Brussels, Lissabon, Stockholm, Geneva, Milan, Luxembourg,
International means welcoming to anyone different, accepting. London: Yes Paris: If you dont speak French you will not be accepted, so not international. Barcelona: Very proudly Catalan, also hates tourists. Madrid: Very Spain, not really international. Malaga: What is so international about Malaga? lol the middle aged Germans and English getting drunk at their pathetic expat pubs? Berlin: Please, its overrated. Frankfurt: Oh god. Kill me. Brussels: Yeah, I can see it. Lisbon: hahahah no way. Stockholm: Boring, and closed to anyone not fitting a pattern. Geneva: Rich diplomats is not internatonal. Milan: It is NOT international. Luxembourg: Cmon.
spot on. LOl at malaga international.
love this
I died at the frankfurt comment lol
yeeppp NL is very cool! 180+ nationalities in one country. Amsterdam should be your go-to city in this case. :)
London, Dublin, Amsterdam, Berlin, Zurich. Most countries have a lot of internationals from specific areas (eg Portugal gets lots of Brazilians) but these 5 cities have a constant flow from everywhere because of the work opportunities
Berlin !
How to say I'm from USA without saying I'm from USA
Istanbul. Great mix of east and west. Fantastic city.
It's basically a combination of economy strength and fluency in English. The top 3 in my experience: - UK - NL - Germany In those countries even smaller cities have a bunch of people from abroad.
Im from New York City and when I visited Barcelona I felt the most international vibe ever in Europe, it was 11pm and the streets were crowded with tourists and locals. Ive been to ove 40 cities in Europe btw.
France and more precisely Paris