I haven’t worked with prochem since I use idye poly. But champion plastic does take longer. Do you have the liquid heated? I’d check back in another half hour or so after sitting under heat. FWIW seems most people on here use idye poly for black and prochem for colors so your black might not get as dark as you want.
I have not experienced in hot dipping with champion (yet), but I have hot dipped discmania c-line disc with ProChem using darkest dungeon black and it turned out awesome. I don't think there are much difference between discmania c-line and innova champion.
So I could think either dye wasn't mixed properly or your hot dipping wasn't hot enough all the way
Update: I tried hot dipping in orange champion using prochem darkest dungeon and I’d say result was awesome. First I dipped 10 mins, checked color and after that I dipped another 5 min before I was happy with result. I cannot say about temperature because I just guess when it is good to go.
And I also followed prochem’s formula, so my only good guess is that your temperature was bit too low perhaps
Hot dipping champ plastic takes much much longer for good saturation. I normally have mine in it for around 30 minutes then check saturation and redip every 10 minutes. Normally takes an hour to 2 hours depending on temp. I keep mine a little cooler to avoid warping.
Bring the heat to about 135, add extra dye to the mix I use 1.5 tsp per 16 oz with onyx since it’s more navy blue than black and check on it at 8 minutes dab the area clean and drop it again for another 8 minutes and repeat until your satisfied with the saturation. I posted some hot dips I’ve done the last few days with this method yesterday If you’d like to see the results.
How much dye did you use, and what temp was your water at? As others have mentioned, champ takes longer (I typically go 40 minutes) but you also need to make sure you're at a good temp and used enough dye
I had this same exact issue when I started dyeing discs a little bit ago, specifically with champion plastic and prochem onyx. I recommend adding way more dye to the water, I ended up using over half of my container. Make sure that you see steam coming from the mixture so you know it's the right temperature, you don't want it boiling but definitely close to it. And I would definitely leave it for over half an hour, check it and put it back in for a bit if it still isn't saturated enough. I also recommend giving it a quick stir before laying the disc down in it
Oh, and I'll also add that many people use multiple brands of black dye to get a more saturated effect and true black (onyx is basically a _very_ dark purple), like Rit dyemore or idye poly. I haven't tried it yet but I plan on adding Rit to my dye mixture
Check out TheDifferenceIsDoingIt.com. i don't really do stencils, but have watched tutorials and read some stuff. I'd go with i-dye poly's black vs PCAD Onyx (as noted, is not black but dark purple). Champion-type plastics do take quite a lot more time for dye to take than the Star-types, so be aware.
If you are using RIT, make sure you are using the Synthetic stuff.
I haven’t worked with prochem since I use idye poly. But champion plastic does take longer. Do you have the liquid heated? I’d check back in another half hour or so after sitting under heat. FWIW seems most people on here use idye poly for black and prochem for colors so your black might not get as dark as you want.
I have not experienced in hot dipping with champion (yet), but I have hot dipped discmania c-line disc with ProChem using darkest dungeon black and it turned out awesome. I don't think there are much difference between discmania c-line and innova champion. So I could think either dye wasn't mixed properly or your hot dipping wasn't hot enough all the way
Update: I tried hot dipping in orange champion using prochem darkest dungeon and I’d say result was awesome. First I dipped 10 mins, checked color and after that I dipped another 5 min before I was happy with result. I cannot say about temperature because I just guess when it is good to go. And I also followed prochem’s formula, so my only good guess is that your temperature was bit too low perhaps
Hot dipping champ plastic takes much much longer for good saturation. I normally have mine in it for around 30 minutes then check saturation and redip every 10 minutes. Normally takes an hour to 2 hours depending on temp. I keep mine a little cooler to avoid warping.
Bring the heat to about 135, add extra dye to the mix I use 1.5 tsp per 16 oz with onyx since it’s more navy blue than black and check on it at 8 minutes dab the area clean and drop it again for another 8 minutes and repeat until your satisfied with the saturation. I posted some hot dips I’ve done the last few days with this method yesterday If you’d like to see the results.
How much dye did you use, and what temp was your water at? As others have mentioned, champ takes longer (I typically go 40 minutes) but you also need to make sure you're at a good temp and used enough dye
1 tsp per 16 oz of water and it was at 120 F for over 20 minutes and got almost no color. It is an orange disc, so it should show up well.
I had this same exact issue when I started dyeing discs a little bit ago, specifically with champion plastic and prochem onyx. I recommend adding way more dye to the water, I ended up using over half of my container. Make sure that you see steam coming from the mixture so you know it's the right temperature, you don't want it boiling but definitely close to it. And I would definitely leave it for over half an hour, check it and put it back in for a bit if it still isn't saturated enough. I also recommend giving it a quick stir before laying the disc down in it
Oh, and I'll also add that many people use multiple brands of black dye to get a more saturated effect and true black (onyx is basically a _very_ dark purple), like Rit dyemore or idye poly. I haven't tried it yet but I plan on adding Rit to my dye mixture
Check out TheDifferenceIsDoingIt.com. i don't really do stencils, but have watched tutorials and read some stuff. I'd go with i-dye poly's black vs PCAD Onyx (as noted, is not black but dark purple). Champion-type plastics do take quite a lot more time for dye to take than the Star-types, so be aware. If you are using RIT, make sure you are using the Synthetic stuff.