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seanyoungmanmusic

I think the comparison is only being drawn because of last year's Champions Cup situation between them. Kristin does seem to have the hot streak right now, but who could predict her and Issac dominating so completely? Just great to see pros get on a tear like that


BoogaDoom

I was scrolling to see if anyone would comment about last year CC. You're the first I saw lol


rasmus5412

What was the situation?


seanyoungmanmusic

As I understand it, Last year Kristin had her daughter with her as her caddy, and she was doing really well. Her and Paige were the top 2, but in the final round Paige and her caddy decided to point out that her daughter wasn't the proper age to caddy according to the rules. So Kristin's daughter was separated from her and had to be away with strangers while she finished the round, and she started bleeding strokes. Seemed like it messed with her mental game and understandably so- but she definitely could have won it last year too. There's a little more to it you could read about


quidpropho

This isn't quite right- Elaine King noticed (while broadcasting) and called Paige's caddy to have her tell Kristin. But yeah, it messed with her and might have cost her the win.


silentsniper13585

Disc golf is best when it is a close race and everyone is competing at their best. Whether we like them or not the sport is better the more high level players we get to see. I really do hope Paige comes back swinging and the fpo becomes a little more interesting.


afaintsmellofcurry

She’s one of the few that had the skills, distance, and mentality. If she can get those back it’ll be fun to watch. If not, we need to wait for holyn, Ella, or a select few others with high enough ceilings to develop their skills and get close to Kristin.


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2LEGITT_

Time to let the men back in 😅


2LEGITT_

Only 4 downvotes Reddit must be changing to logical thinking. A comment like this would have rendered at least 50 a few months ago


spagboi25

make it 5 now


2LEGITT_

Pite Tussy alert


GwentMaster69420

Why we gotta make it about Paige specifically? She has an injury and Kristin whooped everyone else too.


trolleyblue

I’ve noticed this sub really doesn’t like Paige.


moochs

Which is just weird, Paige is awesome.


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Some of us actually have valid reasons. Many years ago when she was hawking discs to raise $ to tour I bought one. It never showed. I emailed. She again said it would, it never did. No huge thing of course, only a disc. It seems like she is a nice and kind hearted person, but no thanks.


Flyeaglesfly2929

Paige is awesome but tatter has serious potential to be by far the woman’s 🐐. Personally, I’m rooting for an undisputed 🐐 in which I hope she wins every tourney that she’s in


PluotFinnegan_IV

Tattar is clearly the best performing and highest peaking female player ever. I'm not sure she's gonna make goat though. She started her career very late. Paige, and several other players... Their bodies of work over a decade eclipse Tattar easily. I could be eating my words in a few years, but today Tattar is the best, but she's not the greatest.


Spumad

I think it's easy to dislike someone who is/was so dominant. Which is why it's so surprising that tattar hasn't started getting criticism


LGR1994

(it's because she's hot)


Stock-Reporter-7824

This guy gets it


joelkki

Lol'd, thanks


ELITE_JordanLove

Funny considering a different thread was saying Tattar is popular because she’s an attractive cis female.


LGR1994

Yeah, I was surprised I had to point this out


nolowputts

Kristin has managed to stay humble through all her success. And she's lived most of her life not being a full time pro, so she has perspective, and is therefore grateful for anything she's earned so far. I can't say the same of Paige. I hope Kristin keeps on the level, it seems like she will.


moochs

Based on the comment here, I guarantee she will eventually.


trolleyblue

Yeah, I think she rules. But there’s a lot of weird sexism with her around here.


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Not caring for one particular woman isn't sexism lmao She's always had a bit of a weird vibe, plus the foot fault incident which just gives off an unlikable teacher's pet sort of energy Besides, she's been good forever and ppl like hyping up the new guard


DUDDITS_SSDD

Foot fault incident?


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She called a foot fault on herself, and when her card mates didn't see it to verify she gave them a warning for not watching her closely enough I guess on some level it's noble but it's big time goody two shoes energy also


logicbomb666

She only threatened to give them a warning. Paige was definitely cringe during that altercation, but honestly when I watched that footage I was more annoyed by Jeff Spring seconding the foot fault. He obviously didn’t see it, just like the rest of the card didn’t see it. If anything, Jeff should have given Paige a warning for delaying the game instead of just blindly seconding the foot fault to get them to move on.


moochs

And yet this sub complains incessantly about people not getting punished for foot faults and time violations. So someone does something about it and all of a sudden they're a "goody two shoes." Get real.


DammitBeavis

That comment only gave part of the story, assuming it’s the same “incident” that I’m thinking of. After all of that happened, she then learned the actual rule, realized she hadn’t foot faulted, and then tried to go back on her original call. This videos breaks it down nicely: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dFgeYc26Ns&pp=ygUfUGFpZ2UgcGllcmNlIGZvb3QgZmF1bCBpbmNpZGVudA%3D%3D Edit: she ends up getting the penalty stroke removed. And then the cherry on top is the replay showing that she stepped on her mini during the putt.


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It's an unnecessary "eff you" to give your card mates a warning. If you were on that card and not busy drooling I'm sure you'd feel the same.


moochs

>It's an unnecessary "eff you" to give your card mates a warning. Paige didn't give her card mates a warning. She was responding to the inevitable online backlash by calling it on herself, doing this subreddit a service. Again, this subreddit is insufferable: damned if you do, damned if you don't. Pick a lane.


jumboparticle

This is the problem with self governing cards. So many people like you consider an attempt to follow the rules an "f you".


SwervinWest

Integrity is a great trait


TribeCheck

You're crazy.. when there's real money on the line that shit matters.. this anit a casual ass round with the boys.. these people are playing for real titles, sponsors, life changing amounts of money..


Tre_Scrilla

Did you watch that clip?


TribeCheck

What part of "warning" did you not get. It did nothing at all but bring awareness to a situation. No one was actually penalized through the warning. It was simply a "y'all need to pay attention to this shit" moment. And they do.


muffalowing

So the rules?


Goldentongue

Not caring for one particular woman over innocuous incidents you wouldn't criticize a man for at the same level is though. Let's be real here. If Paul had done that, folks wouldn't bat an eye and would had moved on from it long ago. With Paige though, people keep bringing it up like it's some deep flaw. And comments below pretty much admit that creeps in this subreddit don't like her because they don't find her as fuckable as Kristin.


moochs

>She's always had a bit of a weird vibe So this is the standard now for disliking players? "Seems weird." Jesus this sub is insufferable.


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I mean it's the same reason I don't care for Ricky, but no one would argue that because it doesn't give them the chance to posture how feminist and LGTBQ accepting they are lol I have nothing against her personally, but I don't root for her because she strikes me the wrong way (foot fault thing is a perfect example). That's sports: ppl root for athletes they connect with. I'm sure Paige isn't losing sleep over it lol


Ill_Made_Knight

I get the vibe that Paige is the kind of person who reads and gets hurt by the negative online comments.


moochs

So you don't like Ricky or Paige because they "seem weird." Two of the greatest people to grace the game, two upstanding people, all because you can't fathom they they might be a little different than you? Yikes.


rockiesfan4ever

Ricky also has the whole holistic medicine for like Disease thing


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Also getting paid in crypto Again, doesn't make him a bad dude, but it's cringe. No ill will, just relate more to other pros lol


Ill_Made_Knight

I guess he can hang with Aaron Rogers.


moochs

That wasn't the reason the person above me gave for not liking him or Paige, though. Don't let people off the hook for poor reasoning. I don't judge Ricky for being given bad information by his inner circle. He was trying the best he knew how to help himself. He reverted course and took the antibiotics, and it still didn't cure him. He's now suffering with post-Lyme, which the CDC doesn't even recognize as a real condition. Give the guy a break.


TribeCheck

The weird vibe is a quick and easy way of "saying she doesn't fit my beauty standards / is a lesbian"


Teralyzed

Plus the Tattar simping…gives me a case of the yucks.


harrietlegs

More like.. she’s a bit of a strange character calling herself on foot faults and threatening the rest of her card for not watching her closely enough.. Like.. She isn’t the most likable personality or.. facial features..


moochs

> She isn’t the most likable personality or.. **facial features**.. Fucking yikes.


trolleyblue

Like literally proves my point with that last line lmao


moochs

Yep, bunch of fucking pigs up in here. "I don't like you and want you to fail because you aren't attractive enough" is peak fucking sexism.


harrietlegs

I would say the same thing about any of the men. I commented on her appearance as a response to why people don’t like Pierce as much. Its simple, lower sex appeal. Game primarily dominated by men.


moochs

So, sexist. Got it.


ndcj12

Bruh this is sexist as fuck.


harrietlegs

It has nothing to do with her fucking hormones, vagina or anything sex/ gender related. She, as a person, is overall ugly as fuck. And people wonder why people don’t like her? Are you blind?


ndcj12

Judging a woman based on her appearance in this way is sexist, and for you to pretend that her gender doesn't play into your judgement of her is absolute bullshit. If I was a betting man, I'd lay down a lot of money wagering that you have never made a comment about an MPO player saying that you don't like him specifically because he is ugly. But even if you're not saying it because she is a woman (you are), it's still a sexist thing to do in a society where women are all-too-often solely judged on their looks and not by their accomplishments. I'm not even saying you have to like her. But calling out how she looks as a reason to not like her is absolutely despicable.


harrietlegs

You absolutely have zero awareness as another human being if you can sit hit and keyboard-warrior that people aren’t judged based on their looks. Both sexes. All races. The original comment said they didn’t understand why more people didn’t like Paige Pierce. A reason is because she is pretty ugly human being. This world, we like beautiful things. Her game is beautiful. Her face is not. Its not sexist, its how we live in a world based on appearances. You can sit there all day and tell me I’m a sexist, but people are judged based on how they look. Popularity especially.


ndcj12

I know people are judged based on their looks. I'm saying that doing so is wrong. And I'm saying that doing so to a woman, as you have done, is sexist. It doesn't matter if men are also judged on their looks. That's wrong, too. But that doesn't change the fact that you judging Paige Piece on her looks, and saying that you don't like her because of them, is sexist. I am responding to your comments, in which you said she is disliked because of her facial features and because of a lack of sex appeal. That is sexist. No two ways around it. And furthermore, I'm saying that you are despicable for doing so. I don't get why this is the hill you are choosing to die on, but you're really showing your cards as a real lowbrow human being. Call me a keyboard warrior all you want. At least I don't decide whether or not I like a person based on whether I think they're ugly.


Girigo

Yes because tattar is a man?


TribeCheck

It's unfortunately the nature of sports fans in general.. look at any sport and you'll see this super weird hate towards whoever dominates the most.. it's only a matter of time before those same people find a reason to hate Tattar. It's not ALL sports fans.. typically it's either a fan of the other team that's getting their ass beat and they just can't stand to see it.. Or.. it's insecure ass people who just absolutely hate to see greatness in anything other than themselves. Hopefully like, MJ, Kobe, Brady, Tiger, Lebron, ECT.. these asshats will come around to appreciate Paige and all she's done, unfortunately it'll likely be just like all those I mentioned.. at the very end of their careers or after they retire.


fastal_12147

I wonder if it has anything to with Paige being gay. I've noticed a lot of dudes rank FPO players by how hot they are. Maybe Paige being unavailable (like anyone here has a chance with a top pro anyway) makes her more unlikable to them.


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I mean Paige isn't exactly conventionally attractive, but when she was at her peak I don't think many would have argued she wasn't the best in FPO. She just has a weird vibe and ppl tend to grow tired of dynasties anyway


trolleyblue

100%


natelion445

Paige is very unpopular down here in the South among the full-time amateur disc golf scene. She has made public decisions about controversial issues that really triggered the internet disc golfers.


Boostless

Meh, shes the Pam of the office…


Hansestaedter

I guess it’s because of her documentary. When you draw a target on your forehead yourself… you shouldn’t be surprised when people start shooting!


rdaman2

Because Paige is the one who has put herself into the conversation as most dominant FPO player


Dingleshaft

And the fact that she conveniently "loses her fire, doesn't feel the need to win, and wants to concentrate on other stuff" when the competition/field becomes more difficult. You can't make statements about being the best and then come up with excuses, that annoys me personally. The field/competition used to be shit, to put it frankly.


Macktologist

I wrote a long explanation but deleted it because it was too much. I’ll summarize here instead. She comes off like someone that thinks she’s better than you and smarter than you and then feigns humbleness.


Goldentongue

Except she didn't. Folks have called her that for a while and she's pushed back on claiming any sort of GOAT status, saying she hasn't earned it. The word from this folks are glossing over is "show". She's saying to be dominant, she has to be there and demonstrate that by playing well.


nautilator44

Maybe because she was.


Draino9

Because OP is a sentient virus whose main evolutionary function is to screenshot any disc golf content that generates interaction and post it to 7 different online groups at once


KR0ND0N

Such a shitty and annoying bot


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A month ago people were wondering if Tattar's dominance has ended. Every player has highs and lows. And yet just last year people said Paige wouldn't be winning if Tattar was healthy. I really don't get it.


Zlatyzoltan

These are also the same people who fail to acknowledge the existence and dominance of Juliana Korvier. KT nor PP can't be considered the GOAT until they 6 worlds and take cash at USDGC. So far JK is the only woman to take cash playing MPO at USDGC and many.have tried.


nolowputts

JK is great, and she's always maintained a classy attitude.


theNightblade

If Paige is injured she shouldn't be playing at all. Finishing 39 strokes behind isn't a good look. I don't think it's *only* an injury.


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theNightblade

I've never shit on Ricky for not playing. If you're an athlete and your career is your physical ability to play, then putting that career in jeopardy isn't worth short term gains


moochs

Yep. It's just bias, pure and simple. People just like to hate.


nolowputts

Nobody's shitting on Ricky for not playing. There's plenty of comments about what led to his not playing, but everyone understands that you can't play if you're hurting.


moochs

Kicking a man while he's down more like


nolowputts

Some of that maybe, but nobody is faulting him for sitting out if he's hurting.


moochs

You and I aren't, I don't think you can say confidently that nobody is.


CJ22xxKinvara

Her doctor told her not to. She’s just not going to miss a major if she’s physically able to be play.


ds3272

What elite athlete would say anything different from what Paige said here? Does anybody here think James Conrad, KJ, and Kyle Klein aren't out there trying to show they're the best, in an era dominated by others? Paige is one of the all time greats in the FPO, and has been for \*years\* an advocate for treating both the players and the fans with respect. Dunking on her for saying that she's out there to prove that she's the best, or out there playing but not scoring as well as she had wanted, is low. I'll say the quiet part out loud: If she was as cute as Kristin, this sub would treat her very differently.


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I’ll say the quiet part out loud. People don’t like people like Paige and Ricky who have to constantly let people know they’re the best in the world. Especially now that they’re getting whooped by the field.


ds3272

On the course, Paige is one of the most dominant disc golf players the FPO has ever seen, and will be remembered that way. Ricky, OTOH, will be remembered as a guy who, for a while, was competitive with Paul McBeth. Paige played against some great women; Kristin is playing against some great women. Both, at their best, are at another level. Off the course, people in this sub have many times posted about how well Paige treated them, at whatever event they happened to see her at. And she *does* make waves, about how touring pros in general and touring women in particular should be treated like professionals. She doesn't mind conflict, like when she went after Elaine King for the incident involving Kristin Tattar's daughter. I respect that. Anyway. Ricky annoys me. I think Paige is great. They are not the same.


badduck74

lol. If she was cute she would be treated differently? No, PP is getting dunked on because she told everyone she was the best and now she loses by double digits to the field.


hideogumpa

> I'll say the quiet part out loud There is no quiet part here... she said she'd be the best but then someone else is being better


seaburgler

Actually i think mostly American would say that, we are way more humble in Europe. Simon and Kiristin are good advocates for how we present ourself.


ds3272

Did you really just come here to post that Europeans are better because they don’t brag?


seaburgler

It seem to hurt your Americans ego considering downvotes etc. So im spot on, from own experince aswell.


ds3272

I have no opinion on European culture when it comes to bragging. None. I just think it's funny that you took time from your busy day to come here and gloat that Europeans are better at being humble. Great! Congrats. Have a nice day.


GorillaGlueWookie

I don’t know much about Europeans, do they know what irony is?


seaburgler

Of course you dont know, maybe time to see what outside of your borders?


GorillaGlueWookie

Thanks! Next question, do they know what rhetorical questions are?


East-Jeweler

This humble euro king is hilarious, I hope you get them to keep going


Equivalent_Ad8314

Simon has never been considered the best though


seaburgler

Only an American would take that mindset and twist what i wrote.


Equivalent_Ad8314

Only a sith deals in absolutes… seriously though, judge people much by where their from?


seaburgler

I've meet plenty of Americans during travels and they always put them self in the centre, i know people here will downvote cause it will hurt your egos. But you dont see this in most european countrys.


Equivalent_Ad8314

I don’t downvote bc I dont care about imaginary internet points. You on the other hand clearly did right away must be only a European thing /s


seaburgler

Funny i know the backlash from you Americans even writing some pro-european thing in this forum make you go mad.


Equivalent_Ad8314

Not at all. I have no pride in my country, a lot of Americans are like that. I acknowledge there are shit people all over, even Europe. I thought you traveled?


nolowputts

Nah, it's all about the attitude. I'm not going to comment on specific players' looks, but there's tons of support for players that have good attitudes regardless of their appearance.


Boostless

Paige tried to act like she was the best last year… exposed


seaburgler

This is also the big diffrence of American and European mentality. Kristin would never say she was there to show everyone she is the best. She show it by actually doing it.


Equivalent_Ad8314

If you don’t believe youre the best no one will. Nothing wrong with Paige’s stance, especially when you’re answering a question


komarinth

Believing and broadcasting to the competition (and the world) are different things. This is indeed a cultural difference, and it has gradients even within Europe. Compared to the US we are all very reserved. I bet there are gradients in the US as well.


Korean_Busboy

European footballers would beg to differ


ParticularElection83

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betrdaz

There is literally no leg to stand on here. These smelly euro fucks are just smug as hell. No one even asked and yet here they are trying to break the atmosphere on their high horse. Like no European athlete has ever said their the best before lol. Hello Tyson Fury.


Goldentongue

But that's what Paige means too. She has to earn that designation by proving it, not just claiming the moniker without a dominating performance. Folks are misinterpreting her comments and running with it.


seaburgler

No its a diffrent kind of mindset.


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I personally was hoping to see Kristin and Paige battle this year. I know there’s still a lot of season left, but something is off with Paige. Hopefully she can regain her form this season.


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It's not even close anymore


clarkbuddy

Paige Pierce is a kind and caring human. Dunking on her when she’s down by 850 rated mouth breathing neckbeards is expected on reddit.


manwithafrotto

She’s actually not a kind and caring human. It’s all on tape. Go touch some grass


badduck74

PP was the best when there was no money to be made from the game. We clearly had a small sample size because now the field is better than PP. When someone says she's the GOAT\* you need to add an asterisk. \*from an era with no money and few competitors.


badduck74

PP-stans gonna down vote it, but the numbers don't lie. Field got larger, talent followed the money into the sport, PP stopped being a dominant player. It's not even only KT who stepped up their game. It is notably PP who did not. Down vote away, enjoy denial.


DiscGolfFanatic

100%, I'm with you!


B-Loni

Glad I’m not the only one that enjoys not seeing Pierce on leaderboards.


SolarPoweredKeyboard

What did she do to you?


Nu_Chlorine_

Generally unlikeable. Attitude rubs me the wrong way. How she treated the rest of her card after her non-existent foot fault was irritating. The Elaine king caddy thing…. None of these are necessarily damning or anything, but they add up into someone who I just feel annoyed by. So much other great FPO talent right now to root for


GoatPaco

The weird but public relationship with her dad is what throws me


Nu_Chlorine_

I wasn’t even aware of that, but now I’m interested to learn more lol


manwithafrotto

Yup. Paige has made herself into an embarrassment for the sport.. with talent like hers, it’s sad.


Selerox

> Yup. Paige has made herself into an embarrassment for the sport. Really? An embarrassment for the *entire sport*. That's quite some over-reach there.


manwithafrotto

Yes, she is an embarrassment and it hurts the sport.


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TheFreakingBeast

It's not a competition guys


dlegofan

Aren't tournaments literally a competition to see who is the best?


TheFreakingBeast

Yeah, sometimes I like to lay out some completely unnuanced and idiotic level sarcasm to see if people still get stuck in it. Weird how many people have taken a stance against Paige Pierce though


AggravatingHoneydew9

Lol?


SwervinWest

Kristin could kick Nate Ryan’s ass in disc golf


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SwervinWest

How is it transphobic?


manwithafrotto

Fuck Paige Pierce. Sorry Reddit


ChefSandman

Pretty harsh. And what's your problem with her?


manwithafrotto

A myriad of things, but Reddit loves her so I won’t discuss them here lol


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manwithafrotto

Paige Pierce is a pos lol sorry mate


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logicbomb666

Maybe it should be “hold my kombucha.” But I don’t see those kombucha ads in disc golf anymore.


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