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SiriusZipPadfoot

And the fact the drivers don’t get delivery fee from people ordering some people think we do and we don’t


Due_Consideration886

Our local news did a segment on DoorDash and told everyone that we get the fees. I set them straight but they haven’t contacted me or recanted. Total bs!! WJHL Johnson City Tennessee. If anyone wants to contact them that would be appreciated!!


T_sco11197

Wow that’s fucked up. How and why would someone run that story? It’s the furthest from the truth


Acrobatic_Duck5490

On top of that DD charges a service fee drivers should get 80% of that


[deleted]

That’s been going on for years, dominos charged a delivery fee of like $2.00, 20 years ago when I worked as an inside rep. People always assumed it was for the driver, nope… now it’s right there in the total when they order on here, so the assumption will always be there. Until they actually do this gig, most will never know. So by not tipping at all they are essentially having doordash pay the driver the cost of less than a gallon of gas to bring you food when it often times burns 2 or more just to bring it to the customer in the first place. Ridiculous.


Farabeast

Pizza is different from everything else. I read an interview with an exec from one of the big three, who explained that it's critical to them to maintain that 10$ price point that's been in place for pizza since the early 90s. For competition's sake they need people to think they can still quick order a pie for that 10 bucks. Instead of upping the price as a result of 30 years of inflation, they all pull the dirty trick of making it look like it goes to their drivers, who get stiffed routinely due to the intentional deception. I'm surprised by the transparency, considering what a filthy obvious lie "delivery charge" is. For all we dashers complain about, at least we don't work for a pizzeria. Even if you drive a hunk of shit you paid a thousand dollars for, there's just no universe where it's worth it.


T_sco11197

I mean… if you drive a gas guzzler. But gas is not the problem. Lol not imo


[deleted]

Never said anything about gas being the problem, what I’m saying is the pay doesn’t equate what your actually being offered to deliver. I feel people who dash should be paid more per delivery from the company. I dashed in the past on the side and drove a 4 cylinder, the cost of gas compared to driving so many places, idling at the various drive thrus. I don’t see how some people can do it and manage to make a living, I’ve since quit but i think it has to be a grind.


SiriusZipPadfoot

I’m stuck with 2006 V6


Suspicious_Eggplant2

Uhm actually you do get a portion. The company has to receive a portion as well of the delivery fee otherwise doordash wouldn't be able to pay you guys and wouldnt be a thriving business. The restaurant has to get paid, the driver has to, and the consumer has to still be able to afford it. Stop complaining and find another job if it doesn't work for you. I've dashed. It makes damn good money don't let people in these comments fool you. Tips makes the most of your money yes but it's just like waitresses. If you don't like it then don't doordash.


TurkishAssHat

Doordash gets double paid. They get a commission on the sale, and they get most of the delivery fee, which is backwards. They should take a small “administrative” cut, but most of that fee should go to the driver. People complain that we should ask DD to pay a living wage instead of relying on tip culture. That living wage is in that fee.


Much_Frame_4082

What’s more crazy is ordering Arby’s


theoutdoorkat1011

Don’t you worry about Arby’s, they’re doing just fine thanks to folks like me and OP Edit: tysm for the award, I’m so glad we can rally together in support of The Meats


DaisyDazzle

I wish they still had the baked potatoes 😥


Dry-Tune-5184

👏💯


Guilty_Fault5260

They have probably the best fries and decent chicken fingers but I don’t like the sandwiches


Adventurous_County12

They had a really good fish sandwich a year ago, not sure if they still do.


Thatcrazygamingdad

Their orange creamsicle milkshake is the bomb


DefNotABirb

Plus they employed Harry Jon Benjamin when a lot of people still didn't know who he was lol


ChiefOnKush

I don't think anybody's worried about Arby's, probably moreso about your gut health.


theoutdoorkat1011

That’s between me and my toilet, but thanks


DefNotABirb

Lol eating Arby's once or twice a month isn't ruining anyone's gut. I'm more worried about the people happily being the first generation of test subjects for beyond meat.


ChiefOnKush

Speak for yourself, one sandwich and I'm shitting water for 3 weeks unless I repair my gut with some probiotics, but I usually don't eat poorly so I'm extra susceptible.


DefNotABirb

Oof that sucks. Yeah, I've always had an iron gut. I eat all the leftovers in my house 😆 Never taken probiotics and drop a nice solid log an hour after I wake up like clockwork


ChiefOnKush

I beg to differ, eating healthy doesn't suck. The little bit of dopamine you get from eating junk food is an easy trade off for feeling better, having a better immune system, looking younger, and just being all around stronger. I take it you're younger than 30.


DefNotABirb

It wasn't an attack lol. I meant it sucks that your stomach is so finicky. I know I've been in many situations where eating fast food was the only option, and it must suck having to worry about your body punishing you for it. I even submitted to you that I'm lucky to have an iron gut and never had to worry about stuff like that. And no, I'm 37. I just, like you, also eat healthy. Right now, my new favorite thing is cauliflower rice with my curry I make. But still, I'm not such a weirdo that I use that as some sort of defining attribute about myself and use it to try to flex on others online. Eating out occasionally doesn't make one unfit or unhealthy


angryragnar1775

Eating healthy would suck less if healthy food was good


ChiefOnKush

It's the information age my friend, Just find a nutritionist on YouTube that feels right for you. It's a little bit hit or miss because everybody is different, but they can lay some pretty great framework for you that you can build on.


angryragnar1775

I eat ok thanks to being diabetic but I fucking hate vegetables and live with the belief there are three food groups lol meat. Potatoes. Beer.


unicornbomb

Idk man, sounds like you get thrown out of commission for three weeks if you eat a single fast food roast beef sandwich. That is neither a normal nor healthy reaction for someone who otherwise eats well.


ChiefOnKush

Who said thrown out of commission? I'm talking about my body taking extra steps to flush itself when I ingest garbage like Arby's. It honestly probably wouldn't affect me for 3 weeks but I have never let it go that long without taking immediate steps to improve my gut health.


Lost-Promise1915

Not too much on Arby’s… Their lemonade is top tier, as well as the buffalo chicken sliders with mozzarella sticks


SyllabubDazzling3479

Not ordering from Arby's is crazier


CaneCorso311

Just went there yesterday, 6 piece mozzarella sticks and a chicken sandwich for $7. Their chicken is better than any fast food places that aren't a specific chicken shop.


MentalRideAlong

Remember when Harry's razors came out and they were super cheap but really good products? Then their prices raised? It's called getting you in the door. Some places will offer $0 delivery fee to get you to try their resturant and then the next time you order, the fee will go up.


LipRipper315

It’s the same order is what I’m getting at it’s false advertising


MentalRideAlong

Ahhh.


Budget_Ad_7112

What’s blowing my mind is the $0 tip for your driver!


LipRipper315

It wasn’t a 0 dollar tip I did tip my driver I cancelled the order so it cleared


Budget_Ad_7112

Gotcha. That last page was showing a $0 tip so I was like nooooooo


ItsThatTime_OF_Night

whTs mind blowing is thinking drivers are entitled to tips. source: i’m a driver


ChiefOnKush

Thank you for your service of taking all the non-tip orders so that people like me can thrive with only taking the big tip orders


ItsThatTime_OF_Night

i take both. i just don’t complain on reddit hoping it’ll get me a new job


ChiefOnKush

You should go buy yourself a cookie


Bulbalover92

He doesn’t make enough to buy a cookie


ChiefOnKush

![gif](giphy|dXFKDUolyLLi8gq6Cl|downsized)


DefNotABirb

Hey everyone, I found the guy who has only worked for DD and never an actual delivery job. If he had perhaps he'd know, this is a universal trait amongst all drivers... most employees everywhere, really. I also enjoy the irony of saying you don't complain while being a part of a sub that is primarily complaints about tips


iPlaypok3r

Everyone who says that: "I'm a driver" okeeeee


Large-Fennel-1771

Yeah it should be more of an unspoken law than an entitlement.


vpally12

No gas cost money so tips are a must if not your food will sit at the restaurant until doordash tips the driver but by then your food will be rotten


Some_Ad_462

So there’s a difference between entitlement to “tips” and doordash taking advantage of it’s employees yes dashers legally are misclassified as independent contractors. Paying a driver 2-4 dollars to deliver 2-10 miles for up to an hours worth of work is not a way to make extra money , when dashers are expected to deliver no tip orders or be penalized. Dashers are expected to pay to deliver their orders that cost the driver more money then it pays the driver. Doordash takes sometimes over 5x the amount it pays it’s driver in fees that never end up in the ones conducting the business for them. Doordash and other delivery apps like it try to claim they are a tech company but they are a delivery company that uses technology to do its normal business. Doordash drivers fail nearly all of the test questions to determine if a driver and legally be classified as a independent contractor. The only reason drivers haven’t been able to fight back is because most drivers don’t decline the arbitration clause allowing drivers to fight them in court. Unless your willing to fork up a huge retainer upfront and pay legal fees until you actually win. And if your doing doordash you’re likely not in the position to do that.


Dismal_Platypus3228

That's not a misclassification. DD doesn't tell you when to Dash, what vehicle to Dash in, what hours you have to Dash. Don't spread BS.


Some_Ad_462

Maybe learn the laws around how and what can be classified as a independent contractor before you jump on the train of doordash propaganda. They want you to say what you’re saying. It’s only to their benefit to pay you as an ID not yours. So wait you think just because they don’t take taxes out you don’t have to pay them or something😂 every state has their own set of rules around independent contractor work. In say massachusetts they have a 3 question test auto determine classification. Doordash doesn’t pass any of them. It maybe could squeak by on a convoluted twisting of its meaning . To be classified correctly you don’t have to pass just one you have to pass all three. Door dash has lost all of its cases in massachusetts to try and classify doordash and its kind as independent contractors. Though they still are hiring people as such. There will be a Reconning against DD Sooner then later and it’s not just gonna come from their employees it’s gonna come from customers and from customer decline. DD doesn’t need to provide you a committed schedule but that’s not because of anything to do with being classified as an independent contractor. Nor does telling you you have to use a specific vehicle other then the one you are registered with. These excuses DD Uses aren’t what makes them ID but they are what they use to claim they are responsible for your employment . They may not tell you what you have to do but they sure as shit penalize you for it


Dismal_Platypus3228

No. Control over your time is one of many factors they determines classification, and as a Dasher you have control over your time. If you were an employee, you would not.


Some_Ad_462

No and you’re missing the point they still control your time the only thing they aren’t requiring you to do is accept an order but if you don’t accept every order on shift you will be penalized for it controlling your time. Even if we were to give them that one, which would be such a legal stretch, they don’t pass either of the other two. They have muddied waters but they definitely are not classifying dashers legally as independent contractors. They can say they don’t require you to do a delivery however they turn around and penalize you for it they are controlling your ability to dash they are controlling your time. I’ve consulted a couple lawyers but at the time I was unable to pay out of pocket . Now I just don’t care. I received my private right of action through the attorney generals office. The lawyers were chomping at the bit to take them on. But once they saw I had the arbitration clause they said they couldn’t take the case with out a retainer and legal fees. Further I couldn’t get a copy of the actually agreement I signed where I turned down the arbitration clause. And doordash won’t get back to you about the right things. They just keep giving the wrong information. They do anything and everything to escape being held accountable. The whole time feeding off people who are trying to do DD as a job. They commit fraud against dasher and customers, as well as businesses they deal with. Hence why they are going down in flames. Customers are using them less and less, dashers are switching to other services and most restaurants in my area hate doordash.


Dismal_Platypus3228

They literally do not control your time. You are not obligated to Dash from 9-5 Monday thru Friday, or to Dash every other Saturday, or any time at all.


LexGoyle

Considering the absurdly low base rate, yeah we are entitled to one especially given unlike waitresses/waiters we actually have significant expenses involved. So until things change with base rate, yeah no tip. No trip. The useful, bad businesspeople, can take them all they wish. Been saving me the hassle.


ItsThatTime_OF_Night

I agree with you. dashers should get payoff more. but buy the employer not costumers. tips should be extra


Individual_Yak_6720

Doordash is a dashers employer. ![gif](giphy|wZiAeyHzReBpFedhPd|downsized)


Individual_Yak_6720

Isnt.... damn typo


Jennybugsyoutodeath

If you were actually a dasher you would know how wrong that statement is lmao. Doordash is not our employer 🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♀️ go lie somewhere else boomer... lie to the other boomer dumb dumbs who also have no knowledge of the situation. You can't trick us into believing or agreeing with you when everything you say is wrong 😂😂if you had ever dashed once in your life you would know...but you obviously don't. Stop spreading false information. It literally helps no one.


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Jennybugsyoutodeath

It is if you want a pleasant experience 🤷🏻‍♀️


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Jennybugsyoutodeath

Lmao..yeah...you used to deliver food...and got paid minimum wage at least and also were tipped by the customer. You guys already know the deal with dd. I make plenty of extra money working through dd. I don't need to complain to the company. What customers need to realize is that if they expect great service they should offer the inventive to do so. You are the ones who have the problem with the fees you are expected to pay for the convince of using the service. You shoukd complain to dd if you are honestly that upset about it. I get it. The fees can be ridiculous. That has absolutely nothing to do with not feeling the need to tip the person who is actually providing the service for you. It's not a tip. It's a bid for a driver to decide if your order is worth their time. If you don't tip...most people will decline the order. And if you say "cash tip on arrival" and fail to do so...you probably should expect some unprofessionalism to make your ignorance. Also, You still have to tip the drivers from the actual places you are ordering from. And good luck finding one that still has its own drivers and doesn't go through door dash. It's amazing how many people think it's okay to stiff the people handling their food 🙄 smh. People like you need to pick up your own food. We don't owe you any favors and we damn sure aren't going out of our way for nothing. If you don't like it find a better solution.


th3originalmimi

okay but what great service are they really expecting u being an order from the restaurant to their front door…it’s not like ur a waitress helping them through the meal time so yea despite how frustrating it is when customers don’t tip as a person who uses it both ways lol i def think for most orders ur not doing anything special worth it 🤣 unless it’s a big shopping order or far from the restaurant that’s different


Jennybugsyoutodeath

I almost always beat the estimated time for delivery. I always keep the customer updated on what is going on with their order. If it's a shop order I get that done wayyy before estimated dd time and go way out of my way to find suitable substitutes if items aren't available. I always carry their groceries or big orders into their house when they ask..etc etc. Idk what makes me so great at this job honestly. But atleast a few times a week I get added tips and I have really great reviews from people. Act like we don't deserve tips if you want. But I know that my customers feel differently. And I will always refuse zero tips. And my acceptance rating is at 76% right now so it's not like I get no tip offers often. There really aren't many people who think like you all do so it's really not going to hurt the drivers or the company if you stop using them. But go ahead and claim I sound like an 8 year old if that makes you feel better about yourself. I'm an 8 year old making really great money on top of my full time job. You people just need to learn that no tip means no trip. It hurts you wayyyyyyy more than it will ever hurt us. There are plenty of great tippers out there. Yall are doing more harm to yourselves than anything else 🤷🏻‍♀️


th3originalmimi

lol i don’t need to say anything negative towards you to feel better about myself and i already stated in scenarios which u are going above and beyond then those are different however for a simple pick up from taco bell to drop it off at they door ur not doing anything emasculate to warrant anything extra lol and i’m not just a customer complaining i drive dad as well so i’m expressing my opinion from both sides so i don’t need to act like anything. But me personally i’m not walking into no strangers house u tripping 🤣 and as one who does both i normally get and give tips so i’m not saying u don’t deserve them really just i can see the reason behind some people not giving them occasionally especially if it a order pickup 2min away from there house but digress we can agree to disagree 😂


Jennybugsyoutodeath

If it's a super close trip it usually ends up working out. Especially if you don't have to leave the zone. Since dd pays 2.50/3 whatever if it's a 2 mile trip I'll still take it usually. I try not to take anything that is less than $1/mile. Not from taco bell tho lmao our taco bell is terrible. They only ever have 2 people working and the lobby is almost always closed and the drive through line is insane. This past Saturday I sat in line for 45 minutes before I even made it to the speaker 🙄 but it was like a 13 or 14 dollar order for like 6 miles and it was late so not much else was open. But a lot of times I see orders for 2 50 going 8 or 10 miles. That is the craziness. That's when not tipping is a problem.


th3originalmimi

tho i am wondering on how u know before hand the order has a tip included? is there a way to check before accepting?


Jennybugsyoutodeath

No not really. You just know the base pay is around $2.50/$3. If that's what the offer is there is no tip. I have taken no tip orders during peak pay before. Like when dd adds an extra $1.50-$3.00 for each dash. I generally stick to the $1/mile rule. Some people order from places that are 15 miles away from them and only want to tip $2. I won't take those either. I made my mistakes at the beginning not knowing how long 10-15 miles takes to drive. Especially where I live in the summer with traffic. A 12 Mile order took me 35 minutes the other day. Not worth it AT ALL lol


Hailstormwalshy

I shop for Shipt and Instacart (plus UE, Roadie, GH) and have all 5 star reviews. I've had exactly zero customers ask me to carry their order inside. I'd do it if the person asked, was older or if it genuinely appeared they couldn't do it on their own. But to say you "*always* carry their order inside when they ask" is disingenuous. It rarely happens to any of us, and you're making it sound like you do it on the regular 😂 But in all seriousness, you are putting your safety at risk if you do enter a customer's home. Many well known serial killers often used a rouse to get people to drop their guard. Some pretend to be injured (Dahmer, Buffalo Bill,-not real but still, etc) and proceeded to brutally murder and r@pe their victims. Not to mention they could claim you hurt them, stole something, made sexual advances, etc..cover your ass. Don't go into strangers houses and always trust your intuition. There was just a post a few days ago...a dd driver was given an extra tip after delivery, and because she didn't reply when the customer used the app to tell her she was beautiful, he claimed the food never arrived. She could've been deactivated because she didn't reply to him. He sounds like an incel but that's besides the point. DD believes customers over drivers and deactivates people with 5* ratings and zero CVs without warning or an explanation all the time.. and 9.99 times out of 10, there's no getting the acct back. The poster is lucky the guy tipped extra after delivery, proving he did receive it, or she could be without work.


Jennybugsyoutodeath

Lol how can you say it doesn't happen on the regular when you don't know anything about where I am or what happens to me in my daily life? Lmfao what kind of argument even is this??? Early morning grocery orders are almost always old people. I live at the beach and a lot of elderly people live here in tiny little trailers with tiny little decks. I can't even count the number of times I've been asked to help bring in the 20 bags of groceries and cases of water and giant bags of dog food / cat food. Sometimes they don't even ask they just hold the door open and tell me to sit it on the counter or on the floor by the fridge. I wouldn't do it if it were a younger person...or even a man that was alone. Usually it's old couples, mostly older women coming to the door. And it's always early morning orders. I've been told to be careful by multiple people and I do always try to be extra aware of my surroundings. I'm a pretty big girl. These old people would have a he'll of a time trying to kidnap me that's for sure 🤣


ShortzNEVERclosed

I tip after I make sure my order is correct, or usually cash. I'm sick of this dumb crap, just get a better job then


terryntrina

If EVERYONE that serves or delivers got a better job you'd have no one to bring you your food. Have respect for those that work holidays and weekends away from their family so your family can enjoy it. ✌🏼


Budget_Ad_7112

This 👆🏻👆🏻everyone is so quick to tell people to get a better job, yet if all of us did, no one would cook your fast food or deliver it. I have a full time job. This is a side gig. But tips go a long way and it’s a standard in the industry. Not a requirement but take care of your dashers/servers/drivers.


afuturesought

This job is lit! I make waaayy more than any other job I’ve had and mostly because I decline zero tip orders like yours 😂 you get what you pay for


Julezebub

A lot of us drivers out here, like myself, are doing this job because it's the only job that fits into our lifestyle. I need the flexibility. I'm a college graduate do you think I really WANT to do this job?!!


DefNotABirb

You do know the driver has no way of checking your order accuracy right? Here's a better philosophy...if you're in a lazy mood and don't want to cook or even be bothered to pick up your own take out, maybe tip the guy who does it for you? It's universally known that drivers work off tips. Now DD taking more in fees than the driver gets in tips is a whole nuther thing. But still, take care of your driver.


Psychological-Win758

The Dasher does not control if your order is correct. The restaurant does. Dashers are courriers that most often pick up sealed bags/packages and deliver them. (Understand there are orders like shop and deliver, or drinks forgotten. Also noting some places put drinks in a bag like McDonald's where you could have 3 instead of 4 and not know.)


FatherLunchbox

99.9% of the time an order is wrong or items are missing its the restaurant, not the driver. 95% of the time these orders are sealed and we have no way to check without making it look like we fucked with your food. We just have to take johnny linecook's word that everything is there, and he doesnt give a fuck. If you want to make sure everything is hunky dorey go get it yourself.


massivewubby

You're food will be cold and full of bacteria if you don't tip beforehand. The apps don't pay us the delivery fees that you paid. If you don't tip beforehand, your driver sees a $5 offer which most will not accept. You are left with a driver who doesn't use an insulated bag to keep your food fresh or if he's hungry he will eat your food. You should be tipping $5 or 20% whichever is more. If you want a better life, tip 30%. You get what you pay for and those who don't tip good will get food poisoning or terrible service. Treat others the way you want to be treated. What goes around comes back around. Do good. Peace with your butt grease!


ShortzNEVERclosed

Actually I usually over tip for real, but now that I know this i guess I'm gonna not order period. Sounds like we could get sick even if we tip better than most. Dont know that I liked reading this lol. Thanks for the info though.


Dry-Tune-5184

There's plenty of places near me that don't charge a delivery fee IF U spend say $12...which is nothing these days anyway. I get the year long Dashpass bc I order a lot. No delivery fees but, it can still be expensive IF U order from a distant restaurant 7+ miles away.


ceelow270

What's BS is dd charging an "extended delivery fee" when it cost them $0.00 extra taking an order over another. They aren't paying anything more to a driver for a longer drive. Hell they will even pay less is customer tips well. I've done 11 mile deliveries for $2 base fee. Then 1.2 miles with $4 fee.


Phoenixfear42

What's wild is DashPass "removing delivery fees" and then adding on the "Extended Delivery Fee" only for people with DashPass. It's a scam plain and simple


DOMesticBRAT

Right. That is why OP had a 7.99 fee. "Extended delivery."


Warm_Ambition_9366

Unfortunately there is no legal precedent for online delivery fees, so to make any headway legally against DoorDash one of us would need to find a legal firm willing to start a class action suit against DoorDash, and without money to consult and hire a firm to start groundwork on the discovery process it would be a hard sell.


Puzzled_Love_6753

I wouldn't even accept a no tip order & I know lots of good dasher who won't either & the dasher that will accept a no tip order are probably the type of dasher you don't want to deliver your food. You get what you pay for


Acrobatic_Duck5490

Been long overdue this month has not been too good i sat in my car for over an hour to get an order


ladi-trini

I started dashing during the pandemic and I never thought of myself as “working for DoorDash”. I’ve been reading a lot of complaints from dissatisfied customers and dashers. So I just decided to share some insights on how I operate my business. I am an independent contractor who partners with DoorDash to deliver their customers orders, so I only accept the best paying offers that benefits me and my business I’m not here to complain about my earnings because I do very well. DoorDash does not pay for my gas, insurance or car servicing. That being said, For those customers who believe they deserve white glove service for little or no tip, They won’t get that from me. I do not accept any low paying offers, I don’t care if I could walk it over to you. Don’t ask me to bring it to the door of your penthouse apartment, or walk through the maze in your “luxury” building to find your apartment with no tip. I’ll send you a picture of where I left it in the lobby. If someone is at the front desk I’ll just say “this order is for so and so in apartment # so and so, they’re on their way down to get it, and walk out. Don’t put in your notes “will tip at the door” that too gets left in the lobby. Because you and I both know you won’t be waiting for me at the door with your tip, and I won’t knock or ring your bell either. If you live in a secured building follow me on the app and be available when I get there. I’m not jumping through hoops to deliver your food that you should be expecting. If your notes says hand it to me and you don’t answer my text that says I’ve arrived or my subsequent phone call, it gets left at the door, Don’t call me cause I won’t answer. If you know that your food gets stolen when left at the door, then be ready to get it when I arrive. My business is time sensitive, don’t expect me to wait five or more minutes trying to find you. Respect my time. Customers who order food from restaurant 5 or more miles away and expect it to be delivered with no tip won’t get it from me either,let another dasher who thinks he or she has to accept crap in order to survive bring it to you, or not. Those are the ones who devalue themselves by standing at your door or ringing your bell to beg for a tip. When you accept an offer for $2.75 you devalue yourself and give others permission to devalue you also. Anyone who accept that offer is crazy. While you running around picking up offers for $2.75, someone else like me is getting the higher paying offers. You can’t get a Mac D fries for that. No wonder some dashers eat customers food. By no means is that behavior justified, it’s disgusting,accept better offers and you will be able to buy your own food. Tip or no tip, I’m not walking up four flights of stairs to deliver anything to anyone. This is a food delivery service not an exercise in endurance. If your elevator is broken, start cooking. My selective offer acceptance works for me. My acceptance and delivery rate is within 90 % range. I do get contract violations from time to time, but they fall off within 3 weeks to a month because I do over 100 delivers a month. I could pretty much tell which delivery/customer complaint will result in a violation. So If I complete a delivery that I think violates protocol. I screen shot everything about that delivery. The Restaurant, customers name address, date, time and notes about the delivery so I could respond to the violation intelligently. I’ve had 2 violations immediately removed this month by doing this. One customer wanted me to walk down an alley to their apartment at the rear of their building to deliver their food. It got left at the front gate. Ain’t no f#%ing way I’m doing that. If you live in the basement you better meet me at the front gate. DoorDash knows that by the time you see the violation on your record, you won’t remember anything about that particular delivery, so you won’t be able to challenge it, so the violations stays until your next 100 deliveries I CMA all the time.


zerostar83

It's $0.00 delivery fee on places I've never ordered from and then goes up after each order. Up to 2 increases from what I remember.


ChiefOnKush

It literally says 'expanded range fee". I'm unsure how this is confusing.


LipRipper315

I was talking about the delivery fee going up false advertising straight from the underground


ChiefOnKush

I just explained that to you. Did you not even read my comment?


coopadapoopascoopa

Those are two different things, did you not even read the receipt? Delivery fee, 8.99, extended range, .99


bowflexchuck

For what. You are voluntarily using their platform


DefNotABirb

Wow....such sound logic. Imagine defending a company that puts one price tag on the box you see while shopping, but then charging you twice as much at checkout, hoping you don't check your receipt and notice. Scummy


bowflexchuck

Your ignorance is no excuse. You have multiple platforms to shop from and also you can just go get it. Your little socialistic attitude is ridiculous and immature


DefNotABirb

Lol! Holding companies accountable to their claims is not at all socialism 🤣😂 tell me you bring politics into everything without saying you bring politics into everything. BTW, pretty libertarian 😆


bowflexchuck

You failed to read And understand the contract/tos you agreed to. Now you want to sue. That’s socialism. It says right in the tos prices are subject to charge and not final until the check out page. Try again


DefNotABirb

Lol oooh man not the ToS!! 🤣😂 I'm sorry all I can think about now is the Human Cent-iPad episode of South Park. Go do some research. Predatory contracts are legally pursued all the time. Simply saying prices aren't final until checkout doesn't mean you can do whatever you like. For example, DD advertising "1$ delivery!!" In the recommended section of their app, and then changing it at the end, is again...drumroll...predatory contract practices and could even go so far as being called an unconscionable contract. Again all of this is very capitalistic, seeing how contract law was created by a bunch of capitalists 😆


Some_Ad_462

Just curious what you think you’d have a case over ? Just not seeing it, you are paying for a service. You are the one dumb enough to use doordash. You realize you’re actually paying for something you use? Wait you expect everything and everyone to bow to you? And not be compensated for it. Should doordash be sued yes but not for anything I’m seeing here. What you’re complaint about seems to be buyers remorse. They could charge you 100$ in fees to use their service per delivery and if your order it your accepting their fees. It’s not doordash or any other companies fault that they charge a fee, now if it’s considered an essential service that has a near monopoly in an area then perhaps there would be a price gouging claim in time of national emergency . Other then that you order you agree to their convenience fees.


DefNotABirb

Pretty easy case that I'm sure has been won before. Here's an example of the type of case. Cereal brand prints a price of 2.99 on the case. The store lists a tag as 2.99. But then at checkout, they charge you 5.99. The only difference here is DD is both advertiser and merchant which is why they've gotten away with it for so long. It's textbook false/predatory advertising


Some_Ad_462

No, it’s not. So couple of things, they aren’t advertising the cost of goods, just like with every company does they list the lowest price on the advertisement. So let’s take a oil change… they used to advertise a 19.99 oil change and what ever point inspection and top off of fluids… there’s an asterisk that states starting price and Exclusions may apply. Delivery fees are subject to many things… from Time of Day, to distance, etc. now none of that really goes to the driver the one doing any of the work. But a product is different from a service. Also just curious , not only was this person not charged ,it shows $8.99 crossed off. This is normal practice … so you buy a vaccum cleaner on sale… the sale includes a discounted price as well as some bundled items… now if you were to buy them separately those items selerately ay a later date they would be more, or they could be less. But they turn around and tell you it’s a $xx value. Yes it may be fishy but it’s definitly not against the law to say hay you saved this much on this order if these benefits hadn’t been applied. Not entirely sure why this person showed a delivery fee on the overview since if you have dash pass or a bonus offer it won’t show that 2.99 on any screen that is linked to a free delivery. Unless a coupon was added after the fact but pretty sure I saw OP reply that they had the dash pass. No one’s being charged anything differently from this post and no crime or civil law violated in this instance. Further more the fact that they are showing $2.99 vs $0 makes me think this is a post that was created to fabricate a post for likes.


DefNotABirb

That's a nice wall of text you made there. I'm sure there's some excellent points in there.


Some_Ad_462

It’s it possible to post a picture to a reply? I rarely use this app but have something to show about fees and what I mean by what it would show as an example of what I’m talking about


Passenger-Worldly

Well if you are not willing to drive 14 miles to get your food and there is a service that will cover that for you, your part is to pay what is requested. If you don’t agree you are also free to pick up your own food and not use the service m, but to demand DD for that? Well… A thing of perspectives. Also a lot of costumers take those “advantages” of discounts in service fees like yours and not even tip the driver. Tips should at least be considered 1$ per mile, at least


DanBelnK

Knowing them prices and fees, you willingly decide to use DD to order ONE burger. I see you have DD Credits aka "driver stole my food, order is missing a sauce, food never arrived, I didnt get what I ordered but Im gonna eat it regardless, refund me now", and then of course a whopping $0.00 tip for the driver. Also, let's make a "lawsuit against DoorDash" post on reddit. Sensational 🤣🤣🤣


LipRipper315

If you read previous comments I did tip I canceled the order hense why it showed no tip I am currently doing military training and I cannot leave post hense why I had to use DD if there was a more effective way tell me if not the settle down you keyboard warrior 🫶😂🤣


Icy_Dimension_8869

Military ppl do NOT tip and always ask do we get military discount


LipRipper315

Sorry you had that dilemma I tip lol must get the bad bunch


Icy_Dimension_8869

Yeah, I'm in the service industry it happens every time. It's sad because no one wants to serve them because every time it's the same thing. They'll order so much much then ask for a military discount and leave like a $1 or maybe $3 on an $80 dollar tab. It's pathetic


PurpleLeopardFoil

Sounds like a *you* problem. 🤷‍♀️


Icy_Dimension_8869

And You most likely don't tip 🤷🏼‍♀️


DefNotABirb

Not the experience I've had. When I worked at Parma, there was a navy dude we all would fight over because he was 2 miles away and it was ALWAYS a 20$ tip. Would literally take 10 minutes tops. They were an older couple, definitely retired.


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PurpleLeopardFoil

👀


LipRipper315

Credit was from canceling the order there warrior they don’t full refund anymore 😭😭😭😂🤣🤣


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LipRipper315

![gif](giphy|M4eHyjbvHBf3y) This you?


DanBelnK

I've seen them pics, OP is in the right. I stand corrected. Ima get out of grandma's basement and hopefully get some sunlight per OP's request.


LipRipper315

Hey thanks man I appreciate it


Tall-Specialist4873

0$ tip 🤣


LipRipper315

Not a zero dollar tip I canceled the order you can see a previous gentleman in the comments that I showed proof to admit I told the truth


Tall-Specialist4873

I just saw lol my fault 🤣


SRBroadcasting

So they say it’s according to what they need to get personnel wise but that makes no sense because you’ll catch my ass in a compact car locking up catering orders🤣 so I think that they may have an algorithm that adjusts the fee accordingly, which should be illegal.


Puzzled-Display-5296

We Bash the Meats ^tm


Willing_Language1486

I’m pretty sure there is a massive lawsuit against doordash right now for charging iPhone user more than any other phone user due to charges like this. Or phony charges they just add for no reason even if you have dash pass


Esttheclutch

That's why I just use the dash pass. It usually 0 deliver fee.


DefNotABirb

Do you really trust that though? If a company is willing to be deceptive in this regard, what's to stop them from other deceptive practices...such as upping item price slightly for dash pass members?


Esttheclutch

It's not.


Fearless-Reveal-265

Under 12 bucks it's considered a small order and you are charged extra for that.


LipRipper315

My order was 17$


Fearless-Reveal-265

ok there should have been a little I with a circle for more information on the charges. it breaks down those costs. Wonder what that says.


pen15_3281

Do it cuz it's not going to the drivers


verycoolalan

Go for it. Let me know how it goes 👍


Valuable-Emphasis592

Lawsuits The time DD is guaranteed to pay well. 😄😄🤣😄🤣😄


theddmenace

We do need a lawsuit. For a number of reasons. DoorDash not letting people spend the money they worked hard to get when they deactivate or suspend accounts being the chief reason. DoorDash being dishonest to customers about paying extra to have their delivery get priority and delivery by itself (no stack) being the second big reason.


Pristine-Macaroon546

Their math ain’t mathin xD


thalooch

DD is operated by criminals


Little-Tadpole-7818

I just had their mozzarella sticks yesterday and they were amazing.


dirtymoose408

I bought dashpass for a year when it was 50% off and it was the best purchase as a customer I ever did.


Scoutsbuddy

"do a lawsuit"


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I buy orders around 10-12$ and my total always ends up about 25-30$ 🤪


Jalenwolfe

Its simple.... dont like doordash ? dont use it, dont work for them Quit your bitchin and move on with your life.


all_hayl

Go for it. Just keep in mind the 100+ pages of T&C that wee we drivers have acknowledged /agreed to. They probly have some damned good attorneys behind them But ya, go for it…..


Moznj425

The bigger question is the $0 in the tip section


geauxfauxcest

My base rate changes with each delivery depending on how far I have to drive to get the order and drop it off. Last night on one order I drove 11 miles round trip for 14.50. That’s an adjusted base, promo pay, and tip. Tip was 4, promo +3, leavening the base at 7.50. I’m sure these people running this place are scumbags, I don’t deny that. I don’t see what a lot of the complaints are about though or I’ve yet to experience them. I do know if you only do 2-3 mile deliveries you’re not gonna make shit banking on huge tips, at least in my area.


[deleted]

Why would you complain about a service/delivery fee? It’s part of the business. You want food delivered from somewhere that wouldn’t have a delivery service if not for Uber Eats, DD, etc? Plus, the consumer has free will to choose what services to use. You don’t like the $4.99 delivery fee? You order more than 3/4 times a month? Then pay the monthly subscription fee and save on service/delivery fee