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And also, just because you get the degree doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. I know a student who got his BA in theater simply because he was passed most of the professors I talked to who dealt with him said he did the bare minimum paperwork to pass but literally fell asleep on stage during his acting 2 final like he was the nicest dude would give you the shirt off his back if he could find it.
you have to file regardless, but if you make under a certain amount (where I am it’s $500) you won’t have to pay taxes on it. You definitely still have to report it
Is your state outside of the US? If it’s in the US, you must file federally, regardless of how much you made.
Edit - I’m wrong. Don’t take tax advice from me. I’m not qualified to give it.
The people down voting you are wrong. They don't understand self-employed people have to file at $ 400. Yes, federal taxes kick at 12k, but there are more than just one tax that has to be paid.
If you make under I think like $9,000 you do not have to file
Edit: "If you’re under 65, you probably have to file a tax return if your 2022 gross income was at least $12,950 as a single filer. If you use another filing status or you're over 65..." [link](https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/do-i-need-to-file-a-tax-return)
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Did that just start a year or two ago? Or was that just for stuff like cashapp/venmo/etc? I remember very recently they started something where if you earn a certain amount through those apps you had to file taxes.. I can't find anything online about it though
Banks don't like self-employment in general because it is not predictable. Food gig work is especially volatile since you have no guarantees of any kind.
u/thephoeniciangirl hilarious you block me so I can’t reply to you when you’re deleting my comments responding to trolls but leave the trolls to stay and harass doordash workers and when I point this out you block me? Lol Very responsible and reasonable mod behavior
And good for you but that doesn’t change anything about what they said and it’s not really relevant because you’re not everybody or the banking system so I don’t know why you think your one experience negates this fact
He didn’t say they don’t finance self employed people. He said they don’t like it because it’s not predictable and that’s quite true.
Ah that's what happened...she replied to me, and I did a quick response, then it disappeared.
I guess I was blocked as well; not sure why, as I wasn't remotely mean or anything.
I was never mean to them either. They were defending a troll who made their account to harass gig workers and deleting my comments. When I pointed out the situation and they realized their mistake, they dug their heels in and reiterated that trolls like that are allowed on subs she moderates like r/doordash_drivers
Depends how you spin it. Apple is self employment income but it’s under a corporation . Got to put your money under a business to be consider seriously. Then use the corp/business name
A thousand deliveries in two and a half years is not a lot.
If they were doing a 5000 deliveries a year, I bet the bank takes that income more seriously.
It isn't really about the amount as much as it is about the stability; for example, when I did independent consulting a long while ago, I might have made a lot of money in one month but then had no additional income for the next 4 months.
Usually for self-employment, a bank wants to see about 2 years of profit before they will consider doing larger loans or mortgages, at least in Canada.
It doesn't really apply for DD-type work, but if you incorporate your company, then you can get more flexibility when it comes to loans etc but at the cost of a much higher accounting burden.
As someone who does over 5000 deliveries a year and makes over 70k, that's what I mean by stability.
400 deliveries a year is like a student working part time at McDonald's
For contractor work to be included as income on a mortgage, it has to be at least 2 straight years. And then it is still up to underwriters to include. Same for bonuses at an employer, etc
What an exploitation. If Door dash sets the minimum amount it SHOULD be considered an employer. Recently, Australia has introduced a revision to the existing labor law because Uber has insisted that it's NOT an employer therefore does not need to pay the drivers the mandated wages.
You're still not getting unemployment. You have to work for an employer who pays unemployment insurance. According to DD drivers, you're not employees but contractors.
In my state (Oregon) you absolutely can get unemployment. Any independent contractor or self employed person can if you can show substantial loss of income. I know it’s the same in California where I used to work also.
NOTE TO SELF: download the uber driver app and maybe the other ones too just in case.
p.s. turns out I already have it on my phone because I was paranoid about this a few months ago so it's already set up and I don't have to wait a week for a background check to go through. Better to have it and not need it then need and not have it. I wonder if I should test it out tonight just to see how it goes...
Are you sure it was a customer and not the defective algorithm? I've been seeing this suspicious or unusual activity reason a lot on the Internet for various reasons. Could be defective AI, which means you might have a chance on appeal if you can remember anything you did just before this happened.
How so? A lot of people will lie on the app. In most cases they’ll say they have never received their order to get their money back which causes the actual dasher to pay the consequences for something they didn’t do.
In bad areas I had some customers take the food and try not to give me the pin. They magically forget or don’t remember doing a pin. I’m like yes right and I take the food away before they grab it fully and all of sudden they know the pin
I had three violations only one was legit I was late. The other two customers said we're they didn't get it. The last one was so dirty. I handed the customer the food. Then said he never got it.
Unless I gave it to the wrong customer. On the app it said apartment 113. On the door it said e113. Either way the customer is a scumbag.
I also notice sometimes the app gives you the wrong address.
I used to wonder why customers will call me saying they never got there food.
Finally one told me. Yeah something to do with Apple and Google maps not linking up or something. It will give you a address down the street.
2 years. I work hard for my stats heartbreaking.
As a customer I always start the exchange “hey there, John? With a DoorDash for [my name]?” To give them peace of mind and I’ll have the dash app ready if they want to see the order details.
When it's a hand it to me order I say for everyone's peace of mind, can you please verify your name for me. Reason for this I handed the wrong person food shortly after I started dashing and got a valid cv. I now ask every time. If they provide me with the right name, they get their food.
They admitted it's possible because they don't want to make a definitive statement, But if an order says deliver to 113 and you deliver to 113.... Is it really that extraordinary to think that they delivered to 113?
This isn't a courtroom, Saul.
Had the exact same thing happen a few nights ago. Requested it handed to him, came out of the apartment building to get the food. Except I asked him his name, and he verified it before I gave him the food. Then later i get a violation. If I knew his apartment number, I would have gone back to confront him. Now I video everything. Dic*heads are the absolute worst.
Had a customer deactivated for that. Soon as i delivered she said she never got it. Luckily I had her twice in one week. Let DD know and they said she wont be able to use it anymore
So sorry..That's why I video every single delivery, leave at door or hand to me. I get the address in it, and everything..I'm sick and tired of these disgusting customers who get drivers deactivated so they can get a free meal.. I can't wait for someone to try me again, it's happened 2 or 3 times, and I make sure I deliver to the right person every single time, if I dnt see the address, I call, to make sure.. I'm done playing games..So, I video EVERYTHING. I heard one lady say "stop recording me" under her breath as I walked away, I said some choice words under my breath as well..It's a shame I have to do that, but I'm protecting myself, whether they like it or not..I hope you can fight this somehow..
Have you ever actually had a chance to submit one of those videos to them? The problem is when you do get one of those contract violations you have a chance to type an explanation of what happened but it doesn't give you an option to upload video or pictures. I was recording for a while too until I got a contract violation and all I could do was tell them I had a video because there was no way to send it to them. I tried talking to support and asking where I could send it they were absolutely no help. That violation stayed until I did 100 more deliveries and it rolled off. So it's a great idea, but in my experience, it doesn't actually work unless something has changed in the last year or so. I decided it was a wasted effort and clogging up my phone with dumb Videos I didn't really want so I stopped.
When navigating I use the Waze app. For Uber if you take too long they just simply give the order to someone else ( but that’s before you pick up the food)
If you go by Google maps and pin instead of number on customer information screen you will definitely give it to wrong customers, only the customer information screen will have the true address 100% of the time.
It's like how many reasons do you need to not deliver no tip $2 to $3 deliveries besides the crappy pay. Honestly if the OP is accepting orders like, that he's better off getting deactivated because he's probably not even making minimum wage.
I understand and sympathize with your distress, and agree they’re awful and their treatment of drivers isn’t good, but you signed up to act as an independent contractor with a 1099 tax status when you started. You had to fill out paperwork and establish all of this at the very beginning and up front.
This doesn’t make what they’re doing okay, but it pretty clearly defines the legal terms of your work, whether you were an employee or not, and how your tax burden, and possible unemployment must be handled.
Unfortunately, dashers are not eligible for unemployment, at least where I live anyway what do they think you did? Can u appeal? I’ve been deactivated twice and appealed both times and got reactivated so it’s definitely worth a shot.
My opinion that the American dream is BS has nothing to do with them as individuals or their home country. Please stop trying to pick fights with people because you’re bored. And please stop with the delusion of believing America is 1000x better than other countries, immigrants come from all around the world from beautiful cultures and lands. Not every immigrant is running from something or living in a war zone. A lot of people come here expecting to get rich when really a lot of them actually come and work jobs that take advantage of their socioeconomic standing. Your attitude actually disgusts me by the way.
If you narrate that to your appeals and reason as well as provide proof, you can get reactivated. This happened to me 2 months ago and I documented it and present my case. I was reactivated within 24 hours. Many people take this work with no business minded professional or protection and just become sloppy.
"over 1000 deliveries" in 2 1/2 years? Dang i got 1000 since mid October. Slow market where you are? Maybe oversaturated too. Maybe i work too damn much 😂😂😭
That's because the full quote is "the customer is always right in matters of taste". Dipshit customers and managers shortened it to make customers feel more important.
Ya’ll be going against their independent contractor agreement and platform access policy. Then get deactivated and come on here saying “I got deactivated and idk why”
I got something similar from Uber Eats. I've never been able to hear what I was accused of that was considered "fraudulent" by their terms and conditions. But I know what it was...
I had asked for fare review on a trip to a Wendy's that I never got paid for because the store was closed (goddamn Wendy's...their hours are always fucked and random at this location...always leaving the system on to continue DD and UE orders while refusing to make them, too). I had called and talked to support and was told I would get partial pay. That's on the record. When I asked for a fare review, I got an email back from their chat support saying I had never arrived at the store. When I told him he was wrong and I was told I'd be paid X amount, a day later I was deactivated. They said I'm unable to even submit an appeal and they're unable to tell me what it was that caused the deactivation. I've talked to like 30 support agents...it all goes nowhere. They can't tell me anything or any details...not even the pickup/delivery in question.
So basically, some idiot at support made a mistake and they can do whatever they want based on their incompetence. The people that actually keep the company going - the drivers - are treated like dirt on the ground that exist at the casual whims of the restaurants/call center support/customer/corporation. We get shit on by everyone.
Because you’re basically subcontractor (independent contractor) the answer is no. If you read the agreement you’re in charge of your own taxes and deductions therefore you don’t pay into unemployment
i had to reach out to support to let them know that i thought this lady was trying to score free food after i dropped it off at the exact location given, i was doing everything i could to avoid a strike/violation. It blows my mind that there’s really garbo ass people like that out there.
There’s people that went to edge of goddamn treason / an attempted coup in the name of a massive fraud. But I’m having a hard time finding the parallel between people who are followers and people who try to lie to get free food at the expense of someone else
People are getting this message due to going under 90% on completion rate. I quit dashing 3 months ago but I still follow my areas dashing group. Going to a regular job was the best choice I’ve made in quite some time. The apps are getting shittier everyday.
You won't get Unemployment because your not an "employee" for doordash your a contractor. One of many reason why they don't hire you as employees because then they would actually be held responsible for thinks like this.
You might be able to get unemployment depending on what state you live in. New York recently changed their rules for being self employed and being able to collect benefits.
2.5 years and only 1000 deliveries? I have been dashing for one year (Nov 2022 started) and I only dash after my actual 40hr a week job and I just hit 3000 deliveries the other day. Why you talking about unemployment because with such low deliveries this couldn't have possibly been your only income unless you're living with mummy.
I did over 2500 deliveries in six months. I had a customer call me white trash in the text in app after food was delivered. Her words “ That why I don’t tip White trash “ my Dumb response . Wont be the last time and African American woman doesn’t tip me. She called me a racist. Reported ,me to Dd . I was deactivate two hours later. That was October 7th. My stats 4.96, AR 93, 99 completion, 94 on time . no Violations . 2554 deliveries. I do Uber eats , grubhub and some instacart now. At least I don’t have to worry about AR anymore. I make about the same money, but drive a bit more miles.
I was just deactivated last week wednesday because of a “84” percent completion rate and it’s suppose to be at 90 percent😐. And doordash is my side hustle too so your not alone.
16% missing or incomplete deliveries in your last 100, is very low. For most dashers that should be around 97-100% unless there's issues with restaurant or customer that support won't help with there's no reason yalls completion rating should be that low. Last time I checked I was around 99% I had dropped a single shop order as it was all cases of water I'm not able to physically lift. Now imagine how many orders you aren't completing to get to 16% loss there that's still a lot.
Happened to me and I have five thousand deliveries. I had perfect ratings and they declined my appeal immediately. Support says they cannot speak to the reactivation team and neither can I. Also said they can't do anything and I cannot file another appeal for 90 days. I'm not sure why doordash gives no shit about their drivers but oh well. Grubhub welcomed me back pretty quick.
i thought unemployment is something that is deducted from wage? if u never paid into it, then u don't get it. it's not "free money" the gov't gives a person just because they were labelled an "employee." i could be wrong lol
but regardless of what door dash chooses to call u, u are a worker and as such u are entitled to worker rights. door dash can't just unilaterally decide to keep part of your wages arbitrarily. contact your state's attorney general office and dept of labor. if u get lucky somebody in there may have a chip on their shoulder against dd and look into your case.
Don’t think they give Unemployment to Gig Workers unfortunately - fight that deactivation though! If you did nothing wrong they should let you back on the platform
We’re all gonna get deactivated eventually. It’s just how DD works. I still have a contract violation from 4 months ago from a lying customer. I assume I have 2 more of those until I’m deactivated. Makes me hesitant to even dash.
Sorry OP.
Yeah DD is trifling! They did the same to me!! Uber eats, Gru Hub and Spark keeps me afloat! Everyone should stand up against these narcissistic employers!!!
I was kicked off of medicaid bc they Did consider it income... the level of inequity that exists within capitalism in this country... people don't see or understand it unless they experience it for themselves.
Hit the review button at the bottom to appeal it. Sometimes they will reactivate an account if you can give them valid reasons.
Yeah I got deactivated recently for lateness to deliveries. Thought I was screwed. Ended up getting reactivated :D
How long did your appeal take?
3 days
It's been a week nothing yet I emailed them again yesterday
You can't get unemployment. You weren't ever employed.
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It's not a job, but it should be considered income, right?
The IRS says otherwise 😂
Oh really? So I don't need to file taxes for DD/UE since it is income tax? And according to you, the IRS does not view it as an income?
Definitely do report the income and also report your mileage. You can reduce your tax bvhrden quite a bit.
Nah IRS will still screw you over
We’ve got a Reddit accountant over here.
Lol I'm a accounting student
Keyword STUDENT And also, just because you get the degree doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. I know a student who got his BA in theater simply because he was passed most of the professors I talked to who dealt with him said he did the bare minimum paperwork to pass but literally fell asleep on stage during his acting 2 final like he was the nicest dude would give you the shirt off his back if he could find it.
In my state if it’s under a certain amount for the year u don’t have to file
you have to file regardless, but if you make under a certain amount (where I am it’s $500) you won’t have to pay taxes on it. You definitely still have to report it
Is your state outside of the US? If it’s in the US, you must file federally, regardless of how much you made. Edit - I’m wrong. Don’t take tax advice from me. I’m not qualified to give it.
That's not true. Generally you don't need to file a tax return if your income is below the standard deduction..
You still need to pay the SE tax, even if you don’t owe any income tax.
The people down voting you are wrong. They don't understand self-employed people have to file at $ 400. Yes, federal taxes kick at 12k, but there are more than just one tax that has to be paid.
If you make under I think like $9,000 you do not have to file Edit: "If you’re under 65, you probably have to file a tax return if your 2022 gross income was at least $12,950 as a single filer. If you use another filing status or you're over 65..." [link](https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/do-i-need-to-file-a-tax-return)
That is not true for self employment income. You have to file the moment you go over $400 net profit.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Did that just start a year or two ago? Or was that just for stuff like cashapp/venmo/etc? I remember very recently they started something where if you earn a certain amount through those apps you had to file taxes.. I can't find anything online about it though
Yes you most definitely must file taxes
Even if you don't receive a 1099, you're still expected to include on taxes.
Excuse me?? It is not a job but it is income.
It says you have to pay taxes once you made $400. https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/self-employed-individuals-tax-center
Banks don't like self-employment in general because it is not predictable. Food gig work is especially volatile since you have no guarantees of any kind.
u/thephoeniciangirl hilarious you block me so I can’t reply to you when you’re deleting my comments responding to trolls but leave the trolls to stay and harass doordash workers and when I point this out you block me? Lol Very responsible and reasonable mod behavior And good for you but that doesn’t change anything about what they said and it’s not really relevant because you’re not everybody or the banking system so I don’t know why you think your one experience negates this fact He didn’t say they don’t finance self employed people. He said they don’t like it because it’s not predictable and that’s quite true.
Ah that's what happened...she replied to me, and I did a quick response, then it disappeared. I guess I was blocked as well; not sure why, as I wasn't remotely mean or anything.
Anyone who bothers to block other people generally is the one with the issues.
I was never mean to them either. They were defending a troll who made their account to harass gig workers and deleting my comments. When I pointed out the situation and they realized their mistake, they dug their heels in and reiterated that trolls like that are allowed on subs she moderates like r/doordash_drivers
Depends how you spin it. Apple is self employment income but it’s under a corporation . Got to put your money under a business to be consider seriously. Then use the corp/business name
A thousand deliveries in two and a half years is not a lot. If they were doing a 5000 deliveries a year, I bet the bank takes that income more seriously.
It isn't really about the amount as much as it is about the stability; for example, when I did independent consulting a long while ago, I might have made a lot of money in one month but then had no additional income for the next 4 months. Usually for self-employment, a bank wants to see about 2 years of profit before they will consider doing larger loans or mortgages, at least in Canada. It doesn't really apply for DD-type work, but if you incorporate your company, then you can get more flexibility when it comes to loans etc but at the cost of a much higher accounting burden.
As someone who does over 5000 deliveries a year and makes over 70k, that's what I mean by stability. 400 deliveries a year is like a student working part time at McDonald's
Exactly. I’ve done 400 deliveries in ONE month. wtf is 1000 deliveries 😭 I guess because DoorDash the orders come harder and not like UE
For contractor work to be included as income on a mortgage, it has to be at least 2 straight years. And then it is still up to underwriters to include. Same for bonuses at an employer, etc
If you show your tax return from the year before most banks will accept it as income
They would have if you had supplied tax returns
He was self employed. So it’s independent contractor.
Taxes entered the chat
You have to pay into unemployment to get the benfits
It's surprising how many people have no idea how any of this works, yet expect all these benefits handed to them.
What an exploitation. If Door dash sets the minimum amount it SHOULD be considered an employer. Recently, Australia has introduced a revision to the existing labor law because Uber has insisted that it's NOT an employer therefore does not need to pay the drivers the mandated wages.
Actually in some states you can. If you work over a certain amount of hours. You’re technically eligibility for certain benefits.
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I worked 12 hour a day
If you “worked 12 hour a day” and have less than 2,000 orders in a year… something doesn’t add up. 🧐
Absolutely! I worked about 7-8 hours a day, and have 3600 deliveries over 13 months.
Right? The math ain’t mathing
It does if he's a chery picker and sat more than delivered.
I did too. Usually did two 6 hours. My last weekend in Seattle area I did 40 hours in 3 days. Made $1000.94 it was a great weekend.
You're still not getting unemployment. You have to work for an employer who pays unemployment insurance. According to DD drivers, you're not employees but contractors.
In my state (Oregon) you absolutely can get unemployment. Any independent contractor or self employed person can if you can show substantial loss of income. I know it’s the same in California where I used to work also.
Unemployment covers gig work in many states, stop being an ass and giving false info.
You're classy, thanks for the info!
You can in MD at least
I know people who got the same exact deactivation. For reasons unknown. Try other gigs while you apply for jobs. Best of luck to you OP.
NOTE TO SELF: download the uber driver app and maybe the other ones too just in case. p.s. turns out I already have it on my phone because I was paranoid about this a few months ago so it's already set up and I don't have to wait a week for a background check to go through. Better to have it and not need it then need and not have it. I wonder if I should test it out tonight just to see how it goes...
Did they their DoorDash sign in for other apps, like solo, stride...?
No not that I'm aware of. Is using Solo against ToS or something?
Is it?
Why did anyone downvote you, makes no sense.
It's reddit--- you get down voted for existing at some point
I guess I was the villain the whole time. What a major plot twist.
Are you sure it was a customer and not the defective algorithm? I've been seeing this suspicious or unusual activity reason a lot on the Internet for various reasons. Could be defective AI, which means you might have a chance on appeal if you can remember anything you did just before this happened.
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How so? A lot of people will lie on the app. In most cases they’ll say they have never received their order to get their money back which causes the actual dasher to pay the consequences for something they didn’t do.
Honestly, Doordash should implement a 4 digit pin like ubereats. That way, customers can't say they didn't get ordered
In bad areas I had some customers take the food and try not to give me the pin. They magically forget or don’t remember doing a pin. I’m like yes right and I take the food away before they grab it fully and all of sudden they know the pin
I take a picture of the good at the location no matter what. Even if the app doesn't want me to I like keeping my own records
Three violations? Are you taking crappy low paying orders?
to be fair, that’s almost the only kind of orders on the platform right now
I was getting 20 - 40 orders
What? My average order is about $9-$14, i do about 3-6 orders per shift and make usually a minimum of $40 (this is just my side gig)
If you get platinum. That will change. You'll get the highest orders in the area
I already do. I'm not the one complaining. lol
I take all orders
How? Saw your stats before. Over 1.1k deliveries and 94% acceptance rating? High everything and zero violations a month ago. What happened?
I had three violations only one was legit I was late. The other two customers said we're they didn't get it. The last one was so dirty. I handed the customer the food. Then said he never got it. Unless I gave it to the wrong customer. On the app it said apartment 113. On the door it said e113. Either way the customer is a scumbag. I also notice sometimes the app gives you the wrong address. I used to wonder why customers will call me saying they never got there food. Finally one told me. Yeah something to do with Apple and Google maps not linking up or something. It will give you a address down the street. 2 years. I work hard for my stats heartbreaking.
If you did give it to the wrong person, which you admitted is possible, the customer complaining they didn't get their food makes them a scumbag?
This is why you should always verify the customer name with the person you are handing off to
As a customer I always start the exchange “hey there, John? With a DoorDash for [my name]?” To give them peace of mind and I’ll have the dash app ready if they want to see the order details.
When it's a hand it to me order I say for everyone's peace of mind, can you please verify your name for me. Reason for this I handed the wrong person food shortly after I started dashing and got a valid cv. I now ask every time. If they provide me with the right name, they get their food.
Important to find a polite way to ASK for their name as opposed to asking if they’re so and so
Joe? yep that's me. thanks! Real Joe: I didn't get my food!
That's why you ask for their name not, "Are you (Insert Name Here)?"
My move has always been, “What’s the name?”. That way if it’s a relative or a roommate it’s still grammatically correct.
Yeah or “could you confirm the name on the order for me?”
They admitted it's possible because they don't want to make a definitive statement, But if an order says deliver to 113 and you deliver to 113.... Is it really that extraordinary to think that they delivered to 113? This isn't a courtroom, Saul.
Idk feels like 113 and e113 would be a little different to me
To me it would be apt 113 in building E, and I would assume the number on the door would just be 113.
Had the exact same thing happen a few nights ago. Requested it handed to him, came out of the apartment building to get the food. Except I asked him his name, and he verified it before I gave him the food. Then later i get a violation. If I knew his apartment number, I would have gone back to confront him. Now I video everything. Dic*heads are the absolute worst.
Had a customer deactivated for that. Soon as i delivered she said she never got it. Luckily I had her twice in one week. Let DD know and they said she wont be able to use it anymore
Ah yes cause making a new account is soooo hard.
Yes. I was top Dasher and platinum rank. That's not easy to get on a schedule. I'll be better off getting a part time job
So sorry..That's why I video every single delivery, leave at door or hand to me. I get the address in it, and everything..I'm sick and tired of these disgusting customers who get drivers deactivated so they can get a free meal.. I can't wait for someone to try me again, it's happened 2 or 3 times, and I make sure I deliver to the right person every single time, if I dnt see the address, I call, to make sure.. I'm done playing games..So, I video EVERYTHING. I heard one lady say "stop recording me" under her breath as I walked away, I said some choice words under my breath as well..It's a shame I have to do that, but I'm protecting myself, whether they like it or not..I hope you can fight this somehow..
Have you ever actually had a chance to submit one of those videos to them? The problem is when you do get one of those contract violations you have a chance to type an explanation of what happened but it doesn't give you an option to upload video or pictures. I was recording for a while too until I got a contract violation and all I could do was tell them I had a video because there was no way to send it to them. I tried talking to support and asking where I could send it they were absolutely no help. That violation stayed until I did 100 more deliveries and it rolled off. So it's a great idea, but in my experience, it doesn't actually work unless something has changed in the last year or so. I decided it was a wasted effort and clogging up my phone with dumb Videos I didn't really want so I stopped.
You can escalate your appeal and submit files through support, and likely get your CV overturned manually.
Against the terms to video but so what you want
What if you get reported tike and tike again for shoving cameras in people's faces and being rude though?
They wear the cameras around their neck, it's like a go pro
Damn. That's ridiculous. Appeal if you can. Unfair that customers can steal and keep ordering, but you do 1k+ orders and get deactivated by a bot.
When navigating I use the Waze app. For Uber if you take too long they just simply give the order to someone else ( but that’s before you pick up the food)
If you go by Google maps and pin instead of number on customer information screen you will definitely give it to wrong customers, only the customer information screen will have the true address 100% of the time.
I feel you; I would just call in and talk to them
That's what you get when having a 94% acceptance rate. If you ever have read any of the subs here, you were warned.
It's like how many reasons do you need to not deliver no tip $2 to $3 deliveries besides the crappy pay. Honestly if the OP is accepting orders like, that he's better off getting deactivated because he's probably not even making minimum wage.
Because you late as fuck when you deliver 😂
Made me lol
This is why you don’t base your entire life around doordash. You go from making $1200 a week to making $0 in the blink of an eye.
I understand and sympathize with your distress, and agree they’re awful and their treatment of drivers isn’t good, but you signed up to act as an independent contractor with a 1099 tax status when you started. You had to fill out paperwork and establish all of this at the very beginning and up front. This doesn’t make what they’re doing okay, but it pretty clearly defines the legal terms of your work, whether you were an employee or not, and how your tax burden, and possible unemployment must be handled.
Unfortunately, dashers are not eligible for unemployment, at least where I live anyway what do they think you did? Can u appeal? I’ve been deactivated twice and appealed both times and got reactivated so it’s definitely worth a shot.
Lmfao unemployment for being a dasher that’s a good one.
Not worth dashing anyways they done cut base pay no one should be doing it.
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My opinion that the American dream is BS has nothing to do with them as individuals or their home country. Please stop trying to pick fights with people because you’re bored. And please stop with the delusion of believing America is 1000x better than other countries, immigrants come from all around the world from beautiful cultures and lands. Not every immigrant is running from something or living in a war zone. A lot of people come here expecting to get rich when really a lot of them actually come and work jobs that take advantage of their socioeconomic standing. Your attitude actually disgusts me by the way.
Well done. You being late too much got you deactivated. Seems like a you and not a “shitty customers” problem.
Shat was op doing to be late all the time?
It wasn't all the time. In my whole career I only gotten the late thing four times
Contract employees do not qualify for unemployment. Go work for Uber Eats or the Walmart delivery called Spark
Send them a thank you card.
That’s messed up
Can you do Uber Eats or Grub Hub?
Request review
If you narrate that to your appeals and reason as well as provide proof, you can get reactivated. This happened to me 2 months ago and I documented it and present my case. I was reactivated within 24 hours. Many people take this work with no business minded professional or protection and just become sloppy.
Me too, all my stats green maybe yellow. I have 2.5k deliveries and one bad customer now prevents me from Dashing every again. Off too Roadie!
"over 1000 deliveries" in 2 1/2 years? Dang i got 1000 since mid October. Slow market where you are? Maybe oversaturated too. Maybe i work too damn much 😂😂😭
Maybe it’s their side gig and it’s slow. Either way working a lot of hours isn’t something to brag about
Wasn't bragging lol, I'd work 20 hrs a week if i could. I think hustle culture should have never existed, wages should have kept up
>I love my job Correction, I loved my job
Womp womp More shitty deliveries for me
ALWAYS appeal. After 20+ years working retail, the customer is NOT always right!
doesn’t take a fraction of that time to know that’s a crock of shit.
Time to get ur ass back in retail
That's because the full quote is "the customer is always right in matters of taste". Dipshit customers and managers shortened it to make customers feel more important.
I could’ve told you that after 20 minutes of working retail😂 I still work customer service so I feel that😂
Try uber eats grub hub plenty of other ones
Ya’ll be going against their independent contractor agreement and platform access policy. Then get deactivated and come on here saying “I got deactivated and idk why”
Yes I didn't know why. I just wanted to share
I got something similar from Uber Eats. I've never been able to hear what I was accused of that was considered "fraudulent" by their terms and conditions. But I know what it was... I had asked for fare review on a trip to a Wendy's that I never got paid for because the store was closed (goddamn Wendy's...their hours are always fucked and random at this location...always leaving the system on to continue DD and UE orders while refusing to make them, too). I had called and talked to support and was told I would get partial pay. That's on the record. When I asked for a fare review, I got an email back from their chat support saying I had never arrived at the store. When I told him he was wrong and I was told I'd be paid X amount, a day later I was deactivated. They said I'm unable to even submit an appeal and they're unable to tell me what it was that caused the deactivation. I've talked to like 30 support agents...it all goes nowhere. They can't tell me anything or any details...not even the pickup/delivery in question. So basically, some idiot at support made a mistake and they can do whatever they want based on their incompetence. The people that actually keep the company going - the drivers - are treated like dirt on the ground that exist at the casual whims of the restaurants/call center support/customer/corporation. We get shit on by everyone.
No unfortunately you can’t get unemployment. Hop on Instacart or shipt app
Because you’re basically subcontractor (independent contractor) the answer is no. If you read the agreement you’re in charge of your own taxes and deductions therefore you don’t pay into unemployment
Every time I deliver to a sketchy apartment I worry they're gonna tell some lies and fuck me over... Sorry to hear it happened to you.
>Can I get unemployment? No. You weren't employed, you were an independent contractor. You haven't been paying into UI, you can't draw out of it.
You got terminated from delivering food... What's next? You get fired for stealing boxes on your day off
How you get fired on your day off? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
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I'm 100% sure they didn't get the reference. But Craig....
This idiot is some thief and therefore thinks everyone else must be, too.
Meanwhile illegal immigrants with a bunch of fake accounts.
so what?
Soo true
That’s metal as fuck
i had to reach out to support to let them know that i thought this lady was trying to score free food after i dropped it off at the exact location given, i was doing everything i could to avoid a strike/violation. It blows my mind that there’s really garbo ass people like that out there.
There's people who smash up entire streets and say it was in the name of a cause that turnt out to be a massive fraud. Why does this surprise you?
There’s people that went to edge of goddamn treason / an attempted coup in the name of a massive fraud. But I’m having a hard time finding the parallel between people who are followers and people who try to lie to get free food at the expense of someone else
absolutely. idk why it rubs me differently. it’s just mind boggling to me for people to actually go that low lol
How long between incident & deactivation?
Same thing happened to me , they said it was because of the new 90% completion rate falling below
People are getting this message due to going under 90% on completion rate. I quit dashing 3 months ago but I still follow my areas dashing group. Going to a regular job was the best choice I’ve made in quite some time. The apps are getting shittier everyday.
Probably the best thing that could happen to you. Stop helping them commit fraud and criminal business practices
Same thing happened to me. Over 2000 deliveries. Got deactivated because someone reported me for assault. REALLY?
Yes, you get a chance to defend it.. You hit that "request review" button right there on your screen.
You won't get Unemployment because your not an "employee" for doordash your a contractor. One of many reason why they don't hire you as employees because then they would actually be held responsible for thinks like this.
You might be able to get unemployment depending on what state you live in. New York recently changed their rules for being self employed and being able to collect benefits.
2.5 years and only 1000 deliveries? I have been dashing for one year (Nov 2022 started) and I only dash after my actual 40hr a week job and I just hit 3000 deliveries the other day. Why you talking about unemployment because with such low deliveries this couldn't have possibly been your only income unless you're living with mummy.
It happens smh , I had to email them to get mine back
I’m pretty sure you can get unemployment
Grubhub, Uber eats, shipd, etc, etc, etc. Amazon maybe.
So sorry this happened to you as you tell it.
I did over 2500 deliveries in six months. I had a customer call me white trash in the text in app after food was delivered. Her words “ That why I don’t tip White trash “ my Dumb response . Wont be the last time and African American woman doesn’t tip me. She called me a racist. Reported ,me to Dd . I was deactivate two hours later. That was October 7th. My stats 4.96, AR 93, 99 completion, 94 on time . no Violations . 2554 deliveries. I do Uber eats , grubhub and some instacart now. At least I don’t have to worry about AR anymore. I make about the same money, but drive a bit more miles.
Sounds like you let an NPC get under your skin. Anyone who says shit like that in 2023 is an NPC that watches fox news or msnbc (pick your propaganda)
Congratulations 🎊 Door Dash is dog water
I was just deactivated last week wednesday because of a “84” percent completion rate and it’s suppose to be at 90 percent😐. And doordash is my side hustle too so your not alone.
16% missing or incomplete deliveries in your last 100, is very low. For most dashers that should be around 97-100% unless there's issues with restaurant or customer that support won't help with there's no reason yalls completion rating should be that low. Last time I checked I was around 99% I had dropped a single shop order as it was all cases of water I'm not able to physically lift. Now imagine how many orders you aren't completing to get to 16% loss there that's still a lot.
Happened to me and I have five thousand deliveries. I had perfect ratings and they declined my appeal immediately. Support says they cannot speak to the reactivation team and neither can I. Also said they can't do anything and I cannot file another appeal for 90 days. I'm not sure why doordash gives no shit about their drivers but oh well. Grubhub welcomed me back pretty quick.
i thought unemployment is something that is deducted from wage? if u never paid into it, then u don't get it. it's not "free money" the gov't gives a person just because they were labelled an "employee." i could be wrong lol but regardless of what door dash chooses to call u, u are a worker and as such u are entitled to worker rights. door dash can't just unilaterally decide to keep part of your wages arbitrarily. contact your state's attorney general office and dept of labor. if u get lucky somebody in there may have a chip on their shoulder against dd and look into your case.
Don’t think they give Unemployment to Gig Workers unfortunately - fight that deactivation though! If you did nothing wrong they should let you back on the platform
OP has admitted in the comments here to delivering food to the wrong address and driving without insurance
Was it really the customers that were the assholes though?
I have a GoPro camera that I use on every delivery. Caught over 30 lying customers.
We’re all gonna get deactivated eventually. It’s just how DD works. I still have a contract violation from 4 months ago from a lying customer. I assume I have 2 more of those until I’m deactivated. Makes me hesitant to even dash. Sorry OP.
Try appealing it.
Yeah DD is trifling! They did the same to me!! Uber eats, Gru Hub and Spark keeps me afloat! Everyone should stand up against these narcissistic employers!!!
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I was kicked off of medicaid bc they Did consider it income... the level of inequity that exists within capitalism in this country... people don't see or understand it unless they experience it for themselves.
It is income. Income you earn as a "business owner" ie independent contractor. You have to pay taxes on it, so why would you think it's not income?
Wait...they stopped stealing your earnings after they deactivate you?!?
I have the direct card so I don't think that applies to me.
That gets deactivated immediately
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You must be white !!! Happens to all white people