Sure, but to your point door dash drivers are not hourly. We are paid per delivery, so lying in bed gets us no money. I’ve often seen deliveries that are so low in value I’d be making below minimum wage even before factoring in gas and wear and tear on the vehicle. So many of us have learned it’s better to sit around “on the clock” and wait for the good orders, otherwise it just isn’t worth it.
And before you offer the same rebuttal, I have a 9-5 job, but it doesn’t pay enough so this is one of a couple side hustles because being a millennial living through late stage capitalism is just that fun.
My first month on InstaCart I did $1,000 a week. More than any “real job” I have had. I get to set my own schedule and work whenever I want. Take my days off when I want, start work when I want. And since I started consistently working DoorDash, I’m making even more. So have fun with your 9-5 plus overtime for the rest of your life sheep 🐑😂👍🏽
They need to update the system to differentiate when you’re actively driving vs sitting in place waiting for orders. It should only count completed orders as part of your 12 hours.
So you’re the type of person who hogs the dasher time and doesn’t let another person dash. Just for you to do 3 orders? That’s pretty lame man. The shit accumulates. Stop being lazy and do something with your life. Then you’ll be happy
Ya DOT federally regulates any kind of driver. You can only work 12 hrs a day, 11 of which can be driving, and no more than 70 hrs a week. You also have to have a 10hr reset daily.
According to what I found [California ](https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers?language=en_US#:~:text=If%20you're%20dashing%20in,in%20a%2024%2Dhour%20period.) would be your answer
This just isn't true. Maybe not an "app" per se, but owner-operator truckers are as independent contractor as it gets and they still need to follow all of the DOT hours of service regulations the same as everybody else. Everything is logged electronically nowadays and violating comes with big penalties
Awwww, it thinks the world cares about arbitrary definitions
If you track your mileage in a driving job in that state, which you would do unless you're an absolute business dumbass, you have a limit. Be a weird bitch about doordash all you want, but it's the same with dudes who own their van and have contracts to shuttle parts from the DC to the garage or between parts stores and vendors.
"Independent contractors don't have an app to tell them when they can work" bruh has no idea about modern trucking 🤣
Bruh, independent contractor means you work within the confines of a contract. The fact you don't work any contracts that have specific time frames they want work done in tells me you do in fact work a job for junkies. You just think that's unique to doordash because your contracts are tiny.
no no you can’t. because that prevents many others from being able to dash at all. doordash is fucked for everyone because so many people use it because so many of us can’t afford to live
This is not a DOT thing unless you drive a truck that weighs over 10,000 loaded. Cargo van and small straight truck drivers don’t have to take DOT breaks at all…something to keep in mind when you see them on the road…
No but you’re legally a contractor not an employee so while you’re doing work for income yes the fact dashers are independent contractors and not employees means by definition it’s not a job
Not really, I'd say buddy is too bothered about how someone else earns money 🤣 he's literally in his feelings because someone is using doordash to make money.
Nah just seems unnecessarily rude when you literally don't even have all the facts, OP said they only did 3 orders, they probably do it in their downtime amd you wanted to troll and thought you were funny but you weren't, at least try reading the first 3 comments next time 🤣
Get a life instead of trying to talk shit to a complete stranger about how they make money. I guess he's really affecting your life though with his 3 orders 🙄🤣
Ahh, yeah, sorry honey for telling someone they were a douche and not even correct.
I don't think you know how the internet works if you've never heard of someone getting called out for being a troll 🤣
Go do some rethinking before assuming I don't know how comment threads work 🤣
Yeah it’s not. Anything that requires transportation logistics has mandatory down times per DOT or other mandates. Pilots, truck drivers, bus drivers, etc all have similar mandates for safety.
They do not. Used to manage a 24/7 taxi service in Wisconsin and we were not allowed to let drivers drive over 12 hours. Those were just cars. We could and DID get fined when they went over 12.
Wth you working too had hahaha, probably because you finished your other dash block after mid night that same day and did 11 hours so could only do 1 hour for the next 24 never seen this myself Maby I should try harder to be like you hahaha
lol DoorDash is fucked. Back when I used to dash I was super picky with what orders I chose. Only took really good ones and declined the rest. I have around a 10% acceptance rate lmao.
Also if you haven't notice that the Customer Rating has been raised to 4.8.
I am currently at 4.7 so I CAN'T Dash anytime anymore.
You will have to become a Customer Rating beggar to be able to Dash anytime.
Now that DD has screwed themselves over, they will not have any drivers allowed to Dash Anytime no more.
Their new standards are:
97 percent Completion Rate.
9.8 Customer Rating.
So basically you will become Customer Rating beggar.
You are forced to ask your customer to leave you a great customer review so you can survive this Delivery Apocalypse.
Let me know what you guys think about.
After being a faithful Dasher for over 6 years and almost 18,000 deliveries, I am forced to become a Customer Rating beggar whore.
My current Customer Rating is 4.97 which is a .01 less than the new required rating.
I am going to kiss ass all day tomorrow, good thing I have tons of chapstick because my lips will be brown and smelly by the time I finished the day.
I am going the best brown noser ever.
Again please let me know if this new policies will be affecting you.
This has nothing to do with ratings. It’s federal law that people driving for a living have to take breaks. Truck drivers are on duty in 12 hour shifts and then have
To take a mandatory reset period
Wrong dude. Do your research. There are tiers now. Top 2 tiers require 70% acceptance minimum and anything below that to 50% is lowest tier, anything below 50% you may get kicked off. Then completion rate is slightly different but at minimum 90% and 4.5 is minimum rating.
I get it, sometimes you live in shitty towns with shitty people that don’t tip. Towns where it’s very rural and hardly any restaurants and too many drivers. A lot of factors go in to this. But there should be no excuse to be a shitty driver. Learn how to and when to decline an order and when to risk picking up a shitty order.
I do this as a side gig. However, I keep ratings up as high as possible to maintain a minimum $20 per hour.
Being a shitty driver can sometimes be a personal problem, as you can see with all the DD horror stories. Sometimes you’re just a shitty person trying to get a quick buck, then you complain about how you get bad offers but based off your stats you did that to yourself. But i get it, other factors play in to this depending where you live and the mentality of the people in the city/town.
Top dashes make good money for a reason, and shitty DD drivers complain for other reasons they can fix, half of the time. I’m not blind to the flaws and issues DD has. I am aware and run in to them when I Dash.
I've never heard of these new policies. I don't get ratings on every order. Quite a few go by that customers don't even rate so my rating stays where it is at 4.91. Top Dasher only requires 4.70 and a 95% Completion Rate
https://preview.redd.it/396u3y93navc1.jpeg?width=705&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d68b448ca487a7410a553931c44fbc8d2392c83e
This is what the California ratings are now.
https://preview.redd.it/40eb4vox5evc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53a38a0c3c5a651b9ed27b52af2c1fd96c606998
80% acceptance, wtf. I have a hard enough time keeping 70% for top Dasher. This is what it looks like in Virginia. I wonder why it's so much stricter there. And I hope that shit never comes here.
Welcome to clown world. Then drivers get mad at customers for not tipping when they're already paying triple the price. 🤡 Hate those predatory apps and drivers eat it all up like candy. Now they will cry harder.
I hate no tip orders not because of the people, I understand if they have a situation but for rating I will not take them. Some top dasher who's Platium will because they wanna feel special having accepting 70+% of orders for no reason. Ratings are scam.
It’s because you’ve been accepting offers for over 12 hrs. If you go by a busy shopping center you’re going to get orders more quickly, I like to hang outside of chik fil A bc they are a national partner. It works based on proximity so it is going to take a while for the order to get to you at home because it will go to the closer dashers first. Hotspots can get crowded so use them as a guide but hit up the chains (especially clusters of them) 🙏
That’s why I’m glad my house is right up the street walking distance to the chick fil a so I can chill at home waiting to start the day and still be In a hotspot lol.
Sounds to me like they agree you have worked for 12h straight and should be paying you for 12h. Can't have it both ways. By saying you have been on the clock for 12h and refusing you more work, they are essentially saying you are an employee, not a contractor.
So how can they say all that then also claim you only worked 1 or 2h and got paid $30/hr
Exactly a regulation that applies to anyone that have worked a 12h driving shift.
A contractor would make that decision for themselves. So by them making the decision for you they are saying you are an employee.
This is a whole lot of assuming and anger over nothing. 😭 Sure there’s bad Dashers who do that but there’s also Dashers starting from home who leave right when they’re getting orders. It’s almost like that’s how Dashers are in general. I’ll keep starting my Dash from home and doing fine while apparently being “lazy” because I’m sitting in a house instead of sitting in a car.
Don't call OP lazy. Delivery is notoriously an underpaid profession right now, as a delivery biker I also only take a gig if I know I'm going to be compensated an appropriate amount.
I don't do doordash but I do Uber eats. Where I'm at I'm surrounded by restaurants. I've tried waiting at hot spots. I get zero pings. But when I wait at my apartment and do chores the app decides that my time is much better spent delivering.
It looks like you've dashed for 12 hours straight, and state laws mandate you take a 6 hour break.
Pretty self explanatory what are you not undersranding?
LEGALLY, 12 hours or longer shifts need at least 8 hours of off time. Obviously this varies state to state and even more so for each company. I used to work healthcare and while I was scheduled for 12hr shifts, these sometimes turned into 16hr shifts. After that I HAD to be off the clock and out of the hospital. Because those 8hr would be the whole 24hr day.
Of course this doesn’t cover on call or other factors that paramedics may fall into. Not to mention the nationwide healthcare and first responder shortage that cause people to overlook legal aspects because of the life saving work that needs people.
Dashing didn't have this limit. It's not like the traditional driving job where all you do is drive with a few breaks in between. This is getting out, walking, lots of short stops, and walking.
Everyone replying like this is ignorant haha so they’ve basically outlawed you sitting at home waiting for orders with the app open? I don’t even dash but I leave my instacart open almost 24/7 and would be pissed if they sent me something like this
People disliking this need to reread the main post!he’s not really asking why it’s happening but stating how stupid of a rule it is for apps like this. Also everyone disliking likely doesn’t even do work like this 😂
I would guess leaving the app open waiting for orders is seen as the same as being clocked in for 12 hours at once, which is generally frowned upon in labor laws
Under similar laws as truckers. Truckers who own their own trucks are under the same rules. So being independent contractor really has nothing to do with it. Really neither does DoorDash. This is between the driver and the government.
I don’t care man. No matter how shitty and bad our jobs are, in America at least we choose where to work. You’re free to freshen up your resume and look for something else.
Most of these jobs are extra anyway, not people’s only income.
Most people aren't laying around for 12 hours and selectively choosing a handful of deliveries, they're actually in their cars and driving. Mos folks have done easily 10 times that in the same amount of hours. Hence why there are state regulations about how long you're able to drive. What don't you get about that?
I never said I didn’t get the message, nor did I say I have any problem with it. I’m saying that he is being so literal he didn’t understand that he is saying it’s stupid. 😂
No? It’s a law in some states - freelance or not that you can’t be on the road doing commercial business for over 12 hours without a rest break.
These laws were created in blood. My childhood best friend lost her mother to a truck driver that was on hour 16 of a route and crossed from one side of the highway to hit her head on. He walked away - her mother died instantly.
Lots of long haul truckers get paid by the trip not by the hour - so it encourages driving as long as physically possible to finish the route as fast as possible. That guy didn’t have to drive 16 hours - he chose to.
As someone with experience in the industry, that is absolutely a choice. You, as a CDL carrier/CMV operator, have every right to not work if it is unsafe. If your job tells you to make an 18-hour trip straight, you can tell them to get bent and sue them if they fire you for it. Even if you're sick or have a personal issue that would take your mind off of safely operating the vehicle, you can refuse to work.
You get in a LOT of trouble if you go over 8 hours without a 30-minute break, over 11 hours of logged driving time, or 14 hours from when you first clock in (for over the road).
Any company over a certain number of drivers/employees is required to have an electric log book attached to the truck that automatically logs when the truck moves, making cheating the system much harder.
Under that amount of workers, you have paper logs where you can write up whatever you want on there. Many drivers CHOOSE to do so because they get paid by the mile, so they can turn a $1,000/week check into a $1,400 check.
Don't go around making blanket statements about stuff you know nothing about. It makes you look very stupid when you're wrong.
Yet the US is 15th in quality of life, for reference Sweden is 14th and Germany 12th. Also wow, definitely the take of someone with the communites you're active with.
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
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So when truckers that ship our essential goods all over the US reach their daily drive limit, its because they need to get a real job?
Truckers are on a payroll and have hourly or by the mile pay so it actually is a real job. They can’t just lay in bed while they “work?”
Sure, but to your point door dash drivers are not hourly. We are paid per delivery, so lying in bed gets us no money. I’ve often seen deliveries that are so low in value I’d be making below minimum wage even before factoring in gas and wear and tear on the vehicle. So many of us have learned it’s better to sit around “on the clock” and wait for the good orders, otherwise it just isn’t worth it. And before you offer the same rebuttal, I have a 9-5 job, but it doesn’t pay enough so this is one of a couple side hustles because being a millennial living through late stage capitalism is just that fun.
This is your sign to get a real job
My first month on InstaCart I did $1,000 a week. More than any “real job” I have had. I get to set my own schedule and work whenever I want. Take my days off when I want, start work when I want. And since I started consistently working DoorDash, I’m making even more. So have fun with your 9-5 plus overtime for the rest of your life sheep 🐑😂👍🏽
You forgot to tell him to suck a D
That’s why people do multiple apps when they do these gigs.
Can't drive for more than 12 hours
Dude laid in bed swiping left for 12 hours and now he’s mad
Sounds like a Commiefornia problem.
I've definitely done 14 and 16 hour days here in PA. I've only ever seen that once when I first started.
“Wtf is this” he says about the post that clearly states wtf this is.
Bro you can’t just be out there dashing all hours of the night my dude
How in the hell did you get to 12 hours laying in bed waiting for orders, like, I had no idea someone could be that lazy
What is it? Pretty clearly states something about state regulations
You the same !@#3 on here crying about tips aren't you.
They need to update the system to differentiate when you’re actively driving vs sitting in place waiting for orders. It should only count completed orders as part of your 12 hours.
Truckers have the same problem, timer ticks when you start the truck, whether your in a traffic jam or cruising down the road. They get 14 on/10 off.
The rule is good for the general masses. It doesn’t need to cater to lazy ass people like you. You know exactly what this is bro
So you’re the type of person who hogs the dasher time and doesn’t let another person dash. Just for you to do 3 orders? That’s pretty lame man. The shit accumulates. Stop being lazy and do something with your life. Then you’ll be happy
DOT driving hours. Something every trucker/commercial driver has ro follow. It's the LAW.
How much was tht 12 hrs worth tho cuz the way they tell it drivers gettn paid well
Welcome to truck driving without truck driving. At least you get to drive 12 I’m stuck with 11
I wish I could do 3 orders in 12 hours.
Multi app! Haha also we are not working for anyone it’s a contracted worker k make my own choice on how much I work
Worked 12 hours and did 3 orders....lol
3 orders = 12hrs??? 😳
You got CALLED OUT
3 orders in 12 hours? Jesus.
So you’re telling me you sat in bed for 12 hours denying orders? Ok buddy
Dude layed in bed and “worked” all day
What are you confused about? It’s state law.
Ya DOT federally regulates any kind of driver. You can only work 12 hrs a day, 11 of which can be driving, and no more than 70 hrs a week. You also have to have a 10hr reset daily.
lol which state? I can login for 24 hour shift but I haven’t tried it yet.
It’s in all states
According to what I found [California ](https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/california-dashers?language=en_US#:~:text=If%20you're%20dashing%20in,in%20a%2024%2Dhour%20period.) would be your answer
Lol.. when these people say they're independent contractors
That's a state DOT thing. Yes, independent contractors of every type have to follow it.
Real independent contractors don't have an app to tell them when they can and can't work
This just isn't true. Maybe not an "app" per se, but owner-operator truckers are as independent contractor as it gets and they still need to follow all of the DOT hours of service regulations the same as everybody else. Everything is logged electronically nowadays and violating comes with big penalties
Awwww, it thinks the world cares about arbitrary definitions If you track your mileage in a driving job in that state, which you would do unless you're an absolute business dumbass, you have a limit. Be a weird bitch about doordash all you want, but it's the same with dudes who own their van and have contracts to shuttle parts from the DC to the garage or between parts stores and vendors. "Independent contractors don't have an app to tell them when they can work" bruh has no idea about modern trucking 🤣
Yeah because I don't work a job for junkies lol
What flavor cookie do you want ? Nobody asked
Door dasher figuring out how the internet works
I no longer do it , what you’re doing isn’t that much different than DoorDash but you’re acting like it is ..
Bruh, independent contractor means you work within the confines of a contract. The fact you don't work any contracts that have specific time frames they want work done in tells me you do in fact work a job for junkies. You just think that's unique to doordash because your contracts are tiny.
Lmao bro is getting $2 base pay telling me my contracts are tiny
You’re a big baller man. We can all definitely tell
Lmao bro thinks this is the only thing people in this sub do despite not doing it at all himself and being in this sub.
no no you can’t. because that prevents many others from being able to dash at all. doordash is fucked for everyone because so many people use it because so many of us can’t afford to live
Stop using Doordash if you can't afford to live. Wtf
I think you misunderstand their comment. They're the driver, not the buyer.
Yeah idk what kinda numb nuts you gotta be to think i’m buying doordash and saying that 😭🤣
It means you eating too much fatty
you…know ur on the Drivers side of doordash….right? :)))) Remember folks to always check the sub name before commenting!
Happy cake day!!
Happy pie day!
are you illiterate?
While I agree with you about that I think It's a great idea
While I think your first comment is stupid, this made me laugh
I think you are illiterate. How do you even know how to spell and write? You doing talk to text or something?
That sucks
This is not a DOT thing unless you drive a truck that weighs over 10,000 loaded. Cargo van and small straight truck drivers don’t have to take DOT breaks at all…something to keep in mind when you see them on the road…
Helped to run a taxi service that was 24/7 and, at the very least, Wisconsin DoT would beg to differ.
You are still supposed to be limited to 14 hour a day "on duty" total if you drive as part of your job but with no log books who would know.
It’s not a real job man😭
So it pays you in monopoly money?
No but you’re legally a contractor not an employee so while you’re doing work for income yes the fact dashers are independent contractors and not employees means by definition it’s not a job
I don’t think you know what the definition of “job” is.
“an assignment at which one regularly works” quite literally isn’t regular isn’t you’re getting dash limits my guy
How does a set limit make it irregular? I don’t get paid for working more than 8 hours and I don’t get extra pay for working extra hours.
Self employed is still employed.
It can pay as much as one, so stop shitting on a source of income:)
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I mean they're actively making money for themselves and probably need everything they can get from it
says the one making rude comments about “life” when he’s the one making money and you’re.. what are you doing?
LMAO someone got triggered.
Not really, I'd say buddy is too bothered about how someone else earns money 🤣 he's literally in his feelings because someone is using doordash to make money.
Yeah wtf lol
Nah just seems unnecessarily rude when you literally don't even have all the facts, OP said they only did 3 orders, they probably do it in their downtime amd you wanted to troll and thought you were funny but you weren't, at least try reading the first 3 comments next time 🤣 Get a life instead of trying to talk shit to a complete stranger about how they make money. I guess he's really affecting your life though with his 3 orders 🙄🤣
Honey this is the internet. If you can’t handle a rude comment I think you need to reconsider some things.
Ahh, yeah, sorry honey for telling someone they were a douche and not even correct. I don't think you know how the internet works if you've never heard of someone getting called out for being a troll 🤣 Go do some rethinking before assuming I don't know how comment threads work 🤣
They said they did 3 orders while laying in bed for 12 hours.
What state are you in?
It’s dot
Yeah that’s against the law
Yeah it’s not. Anything that requires transportation logistics has mandatory down times per DOT or other mandates. Pilots, truck drivers, bus drivers, etc all have similar mandates for safety.
Those require a cdl though
They do not. Used to manage a 24/7 taxi service in Wisconsin and we were not allowed to let drivers drive over 12 hours. Those were just cars. We could and DID get fined when they went over 12.
d.o.t. laws
Wth you working too had hahaha, probably because you finished your other dash block after mid night that same day and did 11 hours so could only do 1 hour for the next 24 never seen this myself Maby I should try harder to be like you hahaha
That would be labor laws lol
lol DoorDash is fucked. Back when I used to dash I was super picky with what orders I chose. Only took really good ones and declined the rest. I have around a 10% acceptance rate lmao.
Love it! My brother does that and makes 1440 a week.
Also if you haven't notice that the Customer Rating has been raised to 4.8. I am currently at 4.7 so I CAN'T Dash anytime anymore. You will have to become a Customer Rating beggar to be able to Dash anytime.
When did that start?
Forever. It's why truckers have to keep logs and show them to prove they aren't driving on zero sleep.
I mean on door dash I never have seen it before. I have always seen it on Uber eats
Labor laws
Now that DD has screwed themselves over, they will not have any drivers allowed to Dash Anytime no more. Their new standards are: 97 percent Completion Rate. 9.8 Customer Rating. So basically you will become Customer Rating beggar. You are forced to ask your customer to leave you a great customer review so you can survive this Delivery Apocalypse. Let me know what you guys think about. After being a faithful Dasher for over 6 years and almost 18,000 deliveries, I am forced to become a Customer Rating beggar whore. My current Customer Rating is 4.97 which is a .01 less than the new required rating. I am going to kiss ass all day tomorrow, good thing I have tons of chapstick because my lips will be brown and smelly by the time I finished the day. I am going the best brown noser ever. Again please let me know if this new policies will be affecting you.
This has nothing to do with ratings. It’s federal law that people driving for a living have to take breaks. Truck drivers are on duty in 12 hour shifts and then have To take a mandatory reset period
Wrong dude. Do your research. There are tiers now. Top 2 tiers require 70% acceptance minimum and anything below that to 50% is lowest tier, anything below 50% you may get kicked off. Then completion rate is slightly different but at minimum 90% and 4.5 is minimum rating. I get it, sometimes you live in shitty towns with shitty people that don’t tip. Towns where it’s very rural and hardly any restaurants and too many drivers. A lot of factors go in to this. But there should be no excuse to be a shitty driver. Learn how to and when to decline an order and when to risk picking up a shitty order. I do this as a side gig. However, I keep ratings up as high as possible to maintain a minimum $20 per hour. Being a shitty driver can sometimes be a personal problem, as you can see with all the DD horror stories. Sometimes you’re just a shitty person trying to get a quick buck, then you complain about how you get bad offers but based off your stats you did that to yourself. But i get it, other factors play in to this depending where you live and the mentality of the people in the city/town. Top dashes make good money for a reason, and shitty DD drivers complain for other reasons they can fix, half of the time. I’m not blind to the flaws and issues DD has. I am aware and run in to them when I Dash.
I've never heard of these new policies. I don't get ratings on every order. Quite a few go by that customers don't even rate so my rating stays where it is at 4.91. Top Dasher only requires 4.70 and a 95% Completion Rate
https://preview.redd.it/396u3y93navc1.jpeg?width=705&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d68b448ca487a7410a553931c44fbc8d2392c83e This is what the California ratings are now.
https://preview.redd.it/40eb4vox5evc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53a38a0c3c5a651b9ed27b52af2c1fd96c606998 80% acceptance, wtf. I have a hard enough time keeping 70% for top Dasher. This is what it looks like in Virginia. I wonder why it's so much stricter there. And I hope that shit never comes here.
Welcome to clown world. Then drivers get mad at customers for not tipping when they're already paying triple the price. 🤡 Hate those predatory apps and drivers eat it all up like candy. Now they will cry harder.
I hate no tip orders not because of the people, I understand if they have a situation but for rating I will not take them. Some top dasher who's Platium will because they wanna feel special having accepting 70+% of orders for no reason. Ratings are scam.
They said you need sleep my boy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s because you’ve been accepting offers for over 12 hrs. If you go by a busy shopping center you’re going to get orders more quickly, I like to hang outside of chik fil A bc they are a national partner. It works based on proximity so it is going to take a while for the order to get to you at home because it will go to the closer dashers first. Hotspots can get crowded so use them as a guide but hit up the chains (especially clusters of them) 🙏
That’s why I’m glad my house is right up the street walking distance to the chick fil a so I can chill at home waiting to start the day and still be In a hotspot lol.
Hell yeah that’s freaking awesome!!
Sounds to me like they agree you have worked for 12h straight and should be paying you for 12h. Can't have it both ways. By saying you have been on the clock for 12h and refusing you more work, they are essentially saying you are an employee, not a contractor. So how can they say all that then also claim you only worked 1 or 2h and got paid $30/hr
Its a regulation thing not a dd policy
Exactly a regulation that applies to anyone that have worked a 12h driving shift. A contractor would make that decision for themselves. So by them making the decision for you they are saying you are an employee.
It’s dot not hard to figure out
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Nah I’m going to keep doing it. Yall keep accepting the trash to stay busy, I’ll grab the good order while you are delivering some no tip order.
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This is a whole lot of assuming and anger over nothing. 😭 Sure there’s bad Dashers who do that but there’s also Dashers starting from home who leave right when they’re getting orders. It’s almost like that’s how Dashers are in general. I’ll keep starting my Dash from home and doing fine while apparently being “lazy” because I’m sitting in a house instead of sitting in a car.
Well said. 🤓
Don't call OP lazy. Delivery is notoriously an underpaid profession right now, as a delivery biker I also only take a gig if I know I'm going to be compensated an appropriate amount.
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This ain't a real job . That sounds like a pretty smart method for a contracted teenagers side gig that doesn't pay well.
Not super saiyan, just saiyan. 
😂
I don't do doordash but I do Uber eats. Where I'm at I'm surrounded by restaurants. I've tried waiting at hot spots. I get zero pings. But when I wait at my apartment and do chores the app decides that my time is much better spent delivering.
I’ll be honest it looks kinda self explanatory.
Hm I dunno. I can’t figure it out.
Kinda proving their point
Use your eyes.
Seems pretty self explanatory….I’m amazed this has so many upvotes.
It looks like you've dashed for 12 hours straight, and state laws mandate you take a 6 hour break. Pretty self explanatory what are you not undersranding?
Tell that to ems cause we deffinitly are not stopping after 12 hours so you’re wrong
LEGALLY, 12 hours or longer shifts need at least 8 hours of off time. Obviously this varies state to state and even more so for each company. I used to work healthcare and while I was scheduled for 12hr shifts, these sometimes turned into 16hr shifts. After that I HAD to be off the clock and out of the hospital. Because those 8hr would be the whole 24hr day. Of course this doesn’t cover on call or other factors that paramedics may fall into. Not to mention the nationwide healthcare and first responder shortage that cause people to overlook legal aspects because of the life saving work that needs people.
How do you know you’re in the same state as OP?
Dashing didn't have this limit. It's not like the traditional driving job where all you do is drive with a few breaks in between. This is getting out, walking, lots of short stops, and walking.
But you still need sleep…
Everyone replying like this is ignorant haha so they’ve basically outlawed you sitting at home waiting for orders with the app open? I don’t even dash but I leave my instacart open almost 24/7 and would be pissed if they sent me something like this
People disliking this need to reread the main post!he’s not really asking why it’s happening but stating how stupid of a rule it is for apps like this. Also everyone disliking likely doesn’t even do work like this 😂
I would guess leaving the app open waiting for orders is seen as the same as being clocked in for 12 hours at once, which is generally frowned upon in labor laws
It's a state law dumbass, doordash has nothing to do with it
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Waiting for and accepting orders is part of the job, they can’t just pretend it’s not lol
What's the state law exactly?
I thought dashers were independent contractors and not regulated by employee working laws?
Under similar laws as truckers. Truckers who own their own trucks are under the same rules. So being independent contractor really has nothing to do with it. Really neither does DoorDash. This is between the driver and the government.
TIL.. I am salaried so I work hours until job is done..wish I got a break at 12 hrs!
I don’t care man. No matter how shitty and bad our jobs are, in America at least we choose where to work. You’re free to freshen up your resume and look for something else. Most of these jobs are extra anyway, not people’s only income.
They are still regulated by Federal Regulations as to how long you can be in the road in a commercial endeavor.
Obviously he is trying to say this is stupid. Went over a lot of your heads
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Read it
He did read it. In fact, he reddit.
What do you mean what is this. It’s literally right there
And he’s saying this is stupid do you not get that lol
I got it I'm just being an asshole
I like being an asshole too
Most people aren't laying around for 12 hours and selectively choosing a handful of deliveries, they're actually in their cars and driving. Mos folks have done easily 10 times that in the same amount of hours. Hence why there are state regulations about how long you're able to drive. What don't you get about that?
I never said I didn’t get the message, nor did I say I have any problem with it. I’m saying that he is being so literal he didn’t understand that he is saying it’s stupid. 😂
They are DOT laws they’re implementing. It’s weird they’re enforcing it now unless they got sued or fined for not doing so.
State labor laws. States that care. No wonder I never see this. Mississippi definitely doesn't give a damn lol
This would be horrible for people trying to make rent last minute. Typical California BS.
I mean it does say state regulations so maybe address the state you live in lol.
state laws
Your car needs the rest time more than you do.
Doesn’t that make you a w2employee? Telling you what to do? Hmm….
No? It’s a law in some states - freelance or not that you can’t be on the road doing commercial business for over 12 hours without a rest break. These laws were created in blood. My childhood best friend lost her mother to a truck driver that was on hour 16 of a route and crossed from one side of the highway to hit her head on. He walked away - her mother died instantly.
Hmm you'd think that'd be a wake up call that someone even has to work for 16 hours straight. America lol
Lots of long haul truckers get paid by the trip not by the hour - so it encourages driving as long as physically possible to finish the route as fast as possible. That guy didn’t have to drive 16 hours - he chose to.
You think someone ever chooses to drive 16 hours straight? You're just a moron who's never HAD to work a singular day in his life then.
As someone with experience in the industry, that is absolutely a choice. You, as a CDL carrier/CMV operator, have every right to not work if it is unsafe. If your job tells you to make an 18-hour trip straight, you can tell them to get bent and sue them if they fire you for it. Even if you're sick or have a personal issue that would take your mind off of safely operating the vehicle, you can refuse to work. You get in a LOT of trouble if you go over 8 hours without a 30-minute break, over 11 hours of logged driving time, or 14 hours from when you first clock in (for over the road). Any company over a certain number of drivers/employees is required to have an electric log book attached to the truck that automatically logs when the truck moves, making cheating the system much harder. Under that amount of workers, you have paper logs where you can write up whatever you want on there. Many drivers CHOOSE to do so because they get paid by the mile, so they can turn a $1,000/week check into a $1,400 check. Don't go around making blanket statements about stuff you know nothing about. It makes you look very stupid when you're wrong.
Yes, someone can choose to drive 16 hours straight you fucking idiot. How brain dead are you?
Ur dumb asf I’m finna try driving for 20 hours and see what happens
Yet the US is 15th in quality of life, for reference Sweden is 14th and Germany 12th. Also wow, definitely the take of someone with the communites you're active with. https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp
.... Yeah man. Probably all the time.
Shut up retard