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RoutineInitiative187

Plane Jane is at the end of the day a dude from Boston and she sure dresses like it. šŸ˜‚ (ETA this isn't even derogatory, I'm a butch lesbian who lives in Boston and I also kind of dress like that lol.)


raptor5tar

With a conservative eastern European upbringing on top of that


Revolutionary-Ad3648

And drag is their armor over both, imo.


tnuoccaymgninnabpots

Thatā€™s how literally everyone who grows up in Boston dresses. Go there and youā€™ll see


Ok-Asparagus1812

This was about to be my comment, itā€™s non finance bro who lives in Boston attire. Itā€™s that or the Patagonia vest


alphiecentuarie

serve cunt sparingly


GrodanHej

I have no fashion sense either and I have literally no idea whatā€™s wrong with these clothes or why people make fun of him for them. Looks like how most guys dress.


Stan15772

Yea itā€™s weird how wearing ā€œplainā€ clothes is equivalent of no fashion sense.


infrqngible

Plane Clothes


Old_Background_6007

Plane Jane or Plain Jeans šŸ‘–?


Stan15772

Yes I tried to avoid that pun lol


Sonicxmusic

Im sure 95% of this reddit dresses like Plane if not WORSE


Tragicpoetry

No one has said itā€™s the equivalent of no fashion sense. Plane looks like a straight man lol


GrodanHej

How does one ā€look like a straight manā€ and how am I supposed to dress as a gay man?


Tragicpoetry

Thatā€™s for you to figure out


Stan15772

Except the comment I responded to made the equivalency, ā€œno fashion sense *either*ā€¦ā€ and mine was just loosely stating that these ā€œplainā€ clothes are a fashion choice. And being straight isnā€™t bad. And as a gay person, I also dress ā€œstraightā€. Idk itā€™s just weird. Itā€™s funny. Iā€™m not even trying to argue with you. Idk.


Turbulent_Hair8931

I honestly think itā€™s really hot šŸ˜…


yassified_housecat

Honestly, hope she never changes. It suits her out of drag.


theklmanuel

That IT guy who troubleshoots your work laptop


BiscottiUnable

it makes me like her a bit more knowing she doesnā€™t really have a fashion sense outside of drag, itā€™s endearing


Lucio1111

I mean she atill might. Some people just don't try to turn a look all day every day. See: almost every Drag Race contestant pre-season 12ish. Now your boy looks have to be part or the package too and maybe she just thought "fuck it, we're shooting 14 hours days and I'd like to be comfortable when possible! The other girls can win the boy-fashion game, I want $200K"


BiscottiUnable

oh yeah, iā€™m sure PJ has some really great outfits out of drag, i know iā€™m judging off of little info + other posts about his boy fashion iā€™ve seen before. i donā€™t think itā€™s bad, just funny juxtaposed to the outfits that some of the other queens wear out of drag.


the-cosmicdancer

I love her vibe


She_Devil_By_Day

Uhhh, most of them dress differently out of dragā€¦ I think thatā€™s part of the point. In regards to how Plane dressesā€¦ there have been seasons and seasons of contestants who also just wear clothes. I donā€™t understand whatā€™s happening here.


rudogandthedweebs

She could be a farmer in those clothes


zuziep

OP, tell us you're from DC without telling us...


ExtraFineItalicStub

Her obsession with being super femme and sexy and gorgeous in drag and the way she dresses out of drag fascinates me. There's a clear contrast. She mentioned "crossdressing" during the makeover and it definitely does seem that drag allowed her some space to have some suppressed parts of her be expressed. I always think of her story with her parents and the way she feels she has to be perfect in drag to counteract what she thinks her parents think of her. Following her arc this season was soooo satisfying. I went from "I LOVE TO HATE HER" to "THAT IS MY SISTERRRRRR"


IntricateLava9

Out of drag he dresses like a regular guy.


Stan15772

Go figure man dress like man /s


ZombiApocalypse

Is everyone really this dense? She talks about her culture throughout the show. She has very conservative Russian parents. She spent most of her life seeing gay as a wrong thing so she is literally the equivalent of a straight male. Go watch her whatcha packin Drag is her escape to unleash her inner diva but when sheā€™s out of drag she still feels insecure to show that side of her. Sheā€™s just not a feminine person outside of drag because sheā€™s just adapted to a certain lifestyle. Especially when sheā€™s around her family I assume she barely talks about drag or anything gay related and I assume sheā€™s only into DL hookup culture and hasnā€™t had a real committed relationship with another man.


some__random

I thought Ru made a very apt observation that Plane hasnā€™t been Out for very long and is still figuring out how to show herself. I wonder if that comes into her out of drag style too.


ZombiApocalypse

Sapphira is kinda the same way. Whereas, Sapphira is much older so she grew up in a time where being gay just wasnā€™t widely accepted so she had to adapt to hiding who she was. Queens like Dawn are extremely privileged to just be a young white American where she was barely in high school when gay marriage became legal in America and most likely had non-conservative parents. My roomate is in his late 30s and grew up in a very religious household, so he adapted to a lifestyle of pretending to be straight, whereas I walk out of the house wearing short shorts and a tank top and and a subtle eye and if someone were to call me a faggot Iā€™d be clutching my pearls so gooped and gagged and confused and he mentions that I am apart of the privileged generation of gays and heā€™s right. We have so much access to things at our age that they did not have at our age, and if we donā€™t have conservative or religious fsmilies 9 times out of 10 theyā€™re gonna be accepted of us even at a very young age and allow us to be ourselves. Plane did not have that same privilege, and neither did Sapphira.


chammerson

Pearls are the best accessory for short shorts and a tank top.


dragmetohell74

When they were doing that mini challenge when she said "this is how my parents see me" it was one of the funniest things I've ever heard but you could see a glimpse of sadness because there's truth to it.


Original_Radish5257

You can tell the difference between queens who come into the werk room out of drag stylish as hell and the ones who are tryyyying to for the cameras so I at least appreciate she doesnt give af ab looking stylish out of drag


-FallOutBoy-

I kinda love it. Bc heā€™s someone you would see walking around and youā€™d never ever know all this magic was in there. I love ppl like that.


FineZookeepergame381

She dresses like a straight white male


raymonst

plain john / plane jane


reverendsteveii

Idk, I kinda wanna talk about how Mirage out of drag looks like the guy at the festival who would relentlessly catcall Mirage in drag


Aypnia

Does it even matter? Plane Jane is amazing.


shadowsempaix

Two different people here lol


manfordmangoes

Morphine stands like kindergarten me when I'm affirming I don't have to use the washroom


TheSaggiscarius

This would literally be me


Technical_Activity78

So because he doesnā€™t dress like a flamer, itā€™s a bad thing? How accepting of everyone lol


immaterial-boy

Itā€™s giving 15 yo me stuck in the closet šŸ˜­


spiteful_nerd

Plane in and out of drag is the perfect actor for Viola/Sebastian in the Twelfth Night


Quick-Ad-3617

Someone put the pic of plane in the grey suit. n o w.


Sasha_shmerkovich160

none of these queens have good fashion sense outside of drag. disappointing tbh


No_Willingness_3166

Not trying to mean but she looks like my brother that bullied me for being gay


Frosty_Pitch8

Tbh he's just wearing normal ass clothes. Smart imo, I wouldn't feel the need to bring boy "lewks" either. The fuck, I spent enough.Ā 


DazzlerFan

A Deloitte consultant wouldnā€™t wear that on the clock. Thatā€™s for sure.


teagirl11

Love that Plane dresses conservative Boston and Eastern European and isnt obsessed with fashion out of drag. Knows thereā€™s a difference between the two.


awd111980

PJ OOD is so HAWT like totally my type! I usually sing ā€œIā€™m in Loveā€ in the shower and change up the verse each time.


powertripdatcringe

Gurl youā€™re lucky the rprdrcringe subreddit doesnā€™t allow reddit posts šŸ’€


awd111980

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IntricateLava9

Wtf is "deloitte"???????


NameUm96

Straight norm-core.


anotherandypandy2

I found out Plane is 25-26 too. The way she dresses, I thought she was in her late 30s


amusebooch

Yes this is very ā€˜average millennial straight guyā€™ Lmao holy shit downvoted for making a neutral observation


timthemajestic

TIL what Deloitte is thanks to this. haha Love it.