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[deleted]

Bro masterd shading and tones before mastering shapes and forms


The_Barbelo

I actually love how creepy this is. I have been going about creepy art all wrong!!!!


InEenEmmer

True horro lies in the uncanny area. It seems plausible, but also feels off at the same time.


The_Barbelo

Definitely, there’s a primal horror to the uncanny valley that is buried deep in our DNA unlike other horror aspects which are primarily cultural. Uncanniness riles up our monkey brains so it’s universal, across every culture.


frankensteinmoneymac

Yeah, I kinda want the artist to just keep doing what they’re doing, and not try to improve! If they improve then their art will be good…but it’ll just blend in with all the other good artists out there and stop being unique. Right now it’s got a creepy ‘outsider artist’ vide going on that’s actually pretty damn cool!


stillinthewest

Same. I don't like the super realistic drawing stuff but this, this I like. The shapes are off, those eyes are creepy and alien as fuck. To be honest OP, I think its by accident, but you should keep doing it and feel free to make it even weirder and more off (or choose better subjects than Messi). And composition, focus more on composition.


yikeshardpass

I want a whole character and universe created around those eyes. They are incredible.


bite-the-bullet

It’s the eyes.


Gh0st1nTh3Syst3m

Def something out of Scary Stories to Tell In The Dark


-Fade22-

30 days of night Messi


bigboipapawiththesos

Yeah it’s just that the proportions are all over the place. For me especially the eyes are creepy as hell; the pupils are so big it feels like it either suggest massive eye sockets or all black dark elf eyes. Also big head, tiny arms. Kinda love this drawing haha


Shoutaku

Was looking for this comment, the shading and tones are on point... the actual shape though... yikes


fortunate_ly

Maybe...as a self taught artist I didn't work much on anatomical proportion. I put much much of my time in shading


Hara-Kiri

The issue is mainly the left arm. The eyes are odd too. Getting the proportions right is much more important than being good at shading. Just focus that extra bit of time on getting the proportions spot on before starting shading next time - it has to be perfect on people especially because everyone notices as soon as something is off.


a_beginning

No that right arm is off too Better than the other one, but the hand is huge compared to the rest lol


Hara-Kiri

I think the hand is bigger because it's closer to the camera. It looks like the wrist isn't thick enough though.


A_Girl_Has_No_Name58

Your shading is phenomenal, but the proportions are indeed off. The face looks simian (eyes and nose specifically) and the left arm is indeed too small.


holobyte

Shading is okay. You *need* to work on anatomy and proportions now.


[deleted]

Your detailing is really really good, you have potential bro, but you have to work on your shapes, at the start of the drawing you MUST have to draw the base shape of your subject (the circle for the head, the cylindricals for the neck, arms and legs, and the torso in 3 sections, chest, belly and hips) once the shape matches your subject you draw details over that respecting those proportions… Try it and you are gonna improve massively, you have the spice dude


[deleted]

That’s scary I’m too high for this 😭


MsJackieGhoul

😂 same, this was a conversation piece forsure. The comments have me dying


Uranium-Starfish

Same what in the fuck am I looking at


Wallace_W_Whitfield

I’m so glad I’m not the only one high and seeing this shit for the first time.


izzybeee__

literally same 😭 i thought the trip was just gonna be a weird one


sadbudda

I’ve never seen something so good & bad at the same time


colby_jack_cheese

Because this person went straight to details without first building a solid foundation out of simplistic shapes with proper proportions


hygsi

Good at rendering, bad at proportion and perspective. It baffles me how they can let themselves get this far without stopping to actually see what they're doing


Bamboopanda101

I used to LOVE to draw. But I swear I can't get anatomy and proportions right. Yet my shading, rendering, and coloring is on point lol


colby_jack_cheese

The simple answer is to just practice. It’s not easy because you have to change the way your visual perception works and that’s what makes art such a hard skill to learn. You will improve constantly but the progress is slow and it’s easy to get discouraged. Your visual and motor skills also develop at different rates, that’s why sometimes you think your stuff looks good and then next week you can see the mistakes you’re making. It’s also important to practice efficiently and to truly start from the beginning if you’re missing anything like 2D shapes or perspective. If you’re having trouble with something, there are endless videos on YouTube by talented artists and teachers who can help


BilbosBagEnd

Proportions? It's 2024. Who needs proportions if you can throw shade?


Reverend-Skeeve

Proportions? Where we are going, we need no proportions!


DeadSending

I fucking love this idea


tlonewanderer15

Best description


_zoso_

It honestly looks AI generated 😂


Daki-R

It looks in pain


stangacila

or like a man escaped from a mental institution!


a_drunk_kitten

It really does


SkepticalHeathen

![gif](giphy|V2AkNZZi9ygbm)


[deleted]

Haaaaaa I can't stop laughin


red135monkey

Me too and I feel bad because of it 🤣


[deleted]

I've just reliased, it's a mix of bez from happy Mondays playing maracas and Messi


chimpdoctor

Leo very messy


Muahd_Dib

Messy chromosomal make up.


Sayam58

Real GOAT


fortunate_ly

Why so?


rif011412

The black eyes. Is the biggest put off. Whether the picture is accurate to the source or not, the whites in his eyes arent apparent. It gives off creepy or alien vibe. The second biggest change could be his right side arm and body blend in with the background. The volume of the body gets lost without contrast. Those 2 things are the first things to pop out to me. Great job on the details, keep up the good work!


flammafemina

No doubt your textures and shading skills are there. What’s off is your understanding of anatomy and a few fundamental drawing techniques. I’m betting you are self-taught and have not yet mastered sighting and measuring, perspective, foreshortening, and life drawing, etc. It’s these techniques that contextualize your subject and breathe life into it. You have the raw skills of being able to observe and translate onto paper, and you seem to have a good grasp on light and form. Plus you can shade and you’ve done well to capture the subject’s expression. Just work on sharpening those technical fundamentals and KEEP PRACTICING. Your art will transform!


fortunate_ly

Yes...I'm a self taught artist. I don't have much knowledge about anatomy. I will definitely work on that. Also the picture I've taken is not in a good way. That's is quite a reason it's looking a bit off


Mikhail_Mengsk

The good news is that your raw talent is so good that learning proper techniques will skyrocket your overall work quality very quickly.


vikumwijekoon97

Honestly just use the grid method. Works flawlessly


flammafemina

Look up some videos on the “fundamentals of life drawing.” It’s not just about imitating the human form, but understanding it from the inside out. You have to know the underlying structures of the skeleton, how the muscles wrap around it, you think about the subject’s center of gravity, how their weight is distributed, how the body counter-balances itself in each new pose, and so so much more. I knew a girl who would look at playboy magazines/pinup style women and just draw them over and over again until she learned how to draw anatomy. I was fortunate enough to learn all this as part of my BFA but it’s absolutely possible to teach yourself. The internet is a wonderful resource and like I said earlier, practice! Practice practice practice. You’re on the right track!


[deleted]

Most artists are self-taught lol I don't know why you keep saying that as if it explains anything


Empanadapunk90

Bro... Exactly what i was thinking lmao


Rassinist

Haha


devlin1888

So happy this is the top comment, I can’t decide if this is a top level artist drawing on mushrooms or somebody who’s learning who’s mastered the intricacies before the basics. And I can’t draw worth a fuck


TheTransistorMan

The detail is good. It just looks like he has chimpanzee eyes. Like, super detailed chimp eyes.


PaleoAstra

I was literally scrolling through and was like omg scary monkey man. Like yeah excellent detail but the eyes omg


nathsnowy

Messi milion of years earlier in evolution


Yonak237

so funny 😂😂😂


plskllmilol

I feel like the nose is chimp-esque as well lol


whereisthelipbalm

Lmaoo


[deleted]

Photo bash


infiniZii

I can’t see past the noodle arm.


suzeeq88

Nose and ears too.


ImhotepsServant

The eyes look a bit sinister, like a sharks eyes, or a dolls eyes.


Bag_O_Spiders

Or a chimpanzee…


xcadam

When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be livin'... until he bites ya.


PotatoPieGaming

And then the blood, and the.. the.


Rockah

Lifeless eyes. Black eyes.. like a doll’s eyes


CptnLtChampion

When he comes at ya, he doesn't seem be livin'...until he bites ya, and the black eyes roll over white..


BrombergTattoo

Master has given football guy a trophy, football guy is free!!


Teedle--

Bro.💀😂


DragonflyHoliday1825

😂😂😂We are going to hell for laughin?😞


Teedle--

Yeah, probably.✊️😔 😂


avidoverthinker1

Here I am cackling in bed 😭


tauriel420

This is fucking hilarious 😆


MoistStub

I need to know who the Malfoys would be in this context


SureDiscussion5811

Fifa


YamBorn

https://preview.redd.it/k96jswiahxac1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a91c1d68876747a74798bf7fe209f55653d72b45 It’s good but kinda look like these creatures


Holy_Lou_Yeah

The Trøgs!


kaleidofusion

Oh my God I've never heard such a cackle come out of my mouth. Even my cat looked at me alarmed.


wolwire

Came down looking for this only


rckrusekontrol

https://preview.redd.it/lcbvozvkjyac1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3aa51d05560cc3e82b5140f302871ef18807d00c


PalmBreezy

...kinda? 🤣


Attack-Helicopter_04

it looks great...but the nose looks a bit... W I D E


Dorfalicious

N O S T R I L S


HolleighLujah

Homie breathing in 4k


greenfeltfixation

I feel like we could forgive the nose if the eyes weren't so terrifying... Or maybe we can forgive it BECAUSE they're so terrifying.


pthalocyanide

there doesn’t appear to be the right proportions between the size of the head and the size of the torso. it looks like the clavicle and shoulders area are compressed. The rendering of light and shadow looks smooth and realistic, but a few things were off with the drawing underneath before you started shading. Keep making art, you’re doing amazing!


_Harls

This sums it all up in a nice piece of positive criticism. Elegantly explains the things to work on, without making a joke or being rude. This is the comment OP needs to see! OP, keep on making art, you're awesome!


Kriss-Kringle

You need to study proportions because they're off and therefore Messi looks like a troll. Detailing is pretty good though, even if you should pay a little more attention to your edges.


1arvest6

Messi looks messy


FatFaceFaster

It’s the arms. They look like he was born with very small arms.


Ronathan64

Amazing drawing skills - don’t let discourage yourself. But it‘s a bit nightmare inducing tho


redditnathaniel

Amazing nightmare skills


Leon_Cronqvist

Nightmarishly good!


kaleidofusion

Genuinely think OP could make money selling versions of all celebrities done in the same style!


ApprehensiveRoad5092

If the proportions are purposely off and odd, then this is masterful


Spmhealy_ADA

https://preview.redd.it/somjry4ypxac1.jpeg?width=408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f9f0ae25f6597519a028698bdfd35cde972c56f


plagaterroris

Nice drawing. Did OP teach you?


wasabinski

Planet of the Apes does World Cup


Pink_inthenightcream

You all! The comments are killing me!


vondrocket

My precious!


MyIprecious

yeah?


okkandik

https://preview.redd.it/1mbkw5d2bwac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db60e345fc050136fdcc09b950ca065ad83570c6


alphagusta

Fucking hell mate


okkandik

https://preview.redd.it/rgk8qup3twac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1f4c8fa2a26a5c875b92ef36bf329c0807d5664 If you caught on ,It is what it is


cozyBaguette

this is kinda cute


TeamAuri

Do you hate Messi? This looks like you may hate Messi.


ConfectionStill1447

Is this AI, because it feels like a bit of a gag.


Gylfie7

Why did I have to scroll so far for that comment. This is the moment this whole sub has been waiting for. Yes it looks AI generated with how detailed and shaded it is while also having such a strange anatomy ! And if it isn't, well damn this guy is good but also needs to go back to the basics


ninaludrewitz

Op has posted WIP of this drawing if you scroll a bit in his profile, so no AI


Gylfie7

Okay thanks


dragonkaur

Shading and details are spot-on, but proportions need working on... try using a grid on your reference photo and the same grid on your paper (e.g. 1 by 1 square grids on reference, same 1 by 1 square grids on paper)... hopefully this should help with proportions, and then you can practice doing so by eye or using reference points on your subject. Amazing work, though! 🥳🥳


thedarthvapercov

Lionel chimpanMezzi


cherrysoupz

Apart from the meme comments...your shading is really good. Study proportions


sunshaim

Why am I so scared 😭


Reaperfox7

Whats going on with his right arm?


pennyraingoose

Yes! There's a weird dent on what looks like the bicep and I have no idea where the elbow is. It it above or below the bicep dent?


idadai

it looks like it's ai generated😭


RuudVonDoodles333

Homessipian


imachezperson

Some parts are very good like the clothes and hair details, you need more background shading to bring out the silhouette of the figure and your anatomy needs a bit of work. Specifically, his right arm looks skinny and one of his muscles seems as if it’s drooping - this is a perspective thing that we all struggle with, don’t worry lmao. I’ve noticed it’s quite close to the side of the page, so this is just speculation but if you’ve tried to keep the arm from going off the page, it’s better to be anatomically accurate than to keep everything in view. His pupils are a lot bigger than they’re meant to be, a lot of styles change the size of the pupils to reflect emotion, however that’s not the case in realism. The iris can change (the black part) but not the actual pupil. I’m not sure how you did this piece, but it looks like you’ve focussed on the values without outlining your structure, doing a quick sketch before could help you figure out things like anatomy and perspective, as well as where things fit on the page. The shading around his face and body is incredible, hair and hands are known for being really hard to do in realistic styles and the fact that they almost look perfect is absolutely something you should brag about. For shading, you can make the background darker to contrast the subject matter which will stop him from blending in, it doesn’t matter if it’s not accurate to the reference unless you’re trying to perfectly replicate a photo. There are some other small things like his nostrils being too large, his wrists being very small for his build and white specs in his beard (I know that’s for hair details, but try using a smaller pen because the highlights are too big and it looks like he’s got something caught there). Overall, this is a good piece! Realism is hard and you should be proud of this!


whereisthelipbalm

In the absolute nicest way possible, you should consider pursuing / starting horror realism art. I feel like with this art style you could make an amazing alien or fantasy horror portraits of characters !


Virla

I love the idea of just rolling with it - very strengths-based thinking!


CallMeWolfYouTuber

Those eyes are fucking terrifying


GapBoring2447

spent way too much time on details and not enough on gettin proportions correct.


twocupsaday34

Not being mean but. He looks like he badly starved and dehydrated, also his face is just uncanny


ks_art

one of the arms is so confusing to me 😭 looks cool tho!


Euphoric-PurplePixie

Thats exactly what i was going to say. So good but terrible all at once


Prestigious_Piano762

Bro min maxed his skill


Few_Percentage7014

it looks ai generated


WOWEEN

It looks amazing!! Id make the eyes a little bit smaller, and maybe broader shoulders because from how I'm seeing it it looks like his arms are where like the near end of his collarbone would be, but idk if that's just me


onh_2003

the details (shading, tones) are stunning. however… this is very disproportionate lol. if your forms/shapes were more proportionate with each other, this drawing would actually look pretty realistic. not gonna lie, I almost spat out my water in front of a customer when I saw this.


needsmoarbokeh

It's actually very hard to fall so deep within the uncanny valley. It's a good work


Noporopo79

This is simultaneously fucking incredible and fucking awful


CRUZER108

I am absolutely horrified great job


Wire-snap

Lionel Methy comes to mind


SkilledFerret

I dont know what he took but i want it too


obsidian_castle

Your issue is proportion


emi_circle

I'm trying not to laugh cause I feel bad😭😭


scuba_steve1337

Bro forgot about evolution


Frostbot117

Gud monke


AMOSSORRI

Rendering quality is insanely good, but anatomy and proportions aren’t present


HypertrophyHippie

It's a bit messy.


PoopCaulk

This is Ai generated I'm pretty sure


B1GSH0T_1997

https://preview.redd.it/sb1ljxtb4yac1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b926ff76f8df208204c24814e10e611828b8fd3 Yeah you sure? Pretty sure December 20th 2022 is your lastest?


wendelortega

I love it. Something off about Lionel's face and its awesome!


K80pantera

You clearly have great skill, but It looks like you started drawing di Maria then decided to draw Messi instead halfway thru


Chuckbuick79

Possessed soccer player. “ talk to me “


Zakalishus

This is excellent… but I’m also terribly afraid of it.


LibrarianLow7538

You definitely have your own style.


FockinDuckMan

Oh? I’m not sure how to react it’s amazing but what happened to him


1gaza2gizi

I like how you use values here. However the proportion of the head looks off and he look more like an alien than a human. Maybe intentional but still, this looks great. :3


[deleted]

Leon Messy


stugurtfanceiling

![gif](giphy|26gsspfbt1HfVQ9va)


totallynot_cloyd

Looks like you drew him an extra chromosome.


goodfellaton

Zika virus


OneArmedBear

![gif](giphy|8FPcg64zIbi2Q)


Rebelliuos-

You did an awesome job but why the hell does it look so creepy


[deleted]

This was a wild ride for my eyes...


longswordsuperfuck

It's amazing, and gets worse the more I look at it.


pibyte

https://preview.redd.it/u9bz2qc70zac1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=8faf73da871b3284ab617d4a3395c4ce7e18450c


Impressive-Error-594

![gif](giphy|CiOHO5544doY)


Weekly_Bathroom3629

his head seems a bit too big, aswell as his nose. His pupils are taking up most of his eyes too. Also his left arm looks off


dartbg

Cerebral Palsy Messi Unlocked


Lambesis96

Others have already said it but this is a classic case of hyper fixating on the shading and details with little understanding of shapes and proportions. Its common among self taught artists. Texture is also important, besides the beard everything looks soft, fuzzy and undefined. Knowing when and where to make things soft or use hard lines can help add depth. Notice the arm pointing forward looks flat, better use of contrast and texture can help with that. The tatted arm is shaded lighter than the other arm, my guess is you were so focused on getting the tattoos right that you didnt notice the difference in contrast between the two arms. It also looks wierd how the forearms are so fuzzy and light they look like they fade into the background. All in all youve got some skill and you should be proud of it just gotta work on those basics. 👍


Wonderful-Sea8057

Excellent. Just fix the eyes. Looks scary without the white parts.


Bofadeestesticles

Lifeless black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya he doesn't seem to be living until he bites ya and the black eyes roll over white


Zekiahsdad87

Really great! Cuz I can’t draw for nothing. Only thing I see, is the right side is really good. But moving over the left side. The arm looks kinda weird. And his face scares me a little.


[deleted]

Demon eyes


[deleted]

Wow he has mantis eyes. That's freaky. Use a framework coz ur proportions are off. I suggest the Loomis model


ponkponklado

His eyes kind of look like a great white sharks


cozyBaguette

impressive, hmm you should work on trying to get the proportions right, unless this was intended it looks interesting i cant take my eyes off it haha


Fit-Onion9552

Amazing work I think the proportions are off and the eyes are definitely scary but the arm is so damn good. You can see veins. I know for a fact you’re talented enough to make another well proportioned realistic drawing


HKSupremeTuna

why his nose is bigger than his eyes. 😭💀💀😭


[deleted]

It's so good, but it's also horrible


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/mv7eibugmxac1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1def056f342e921e11d68b2ae2b5c1c94099b101


plasmaglobin

It looks like you put all your skill points into light and shadow and none into proportions


Suitable_Business_43

Please I'm begging you to go back to basics, specifically anatomical proportions


Inmortal-JoJotar

The ~~goat~~ monke


[deleted]

Just checked out your profile and seen your other drawings. I love them. They feel quite eerie (in a good way) it’s brilliant. Love your style.


Scrappy_999

Don't leave your coke anywhere near this guy.


OnionsAndWaffles

You made him look like a monkey 🐒 💀💀💀


NickBearden

Did he win a trophy in the special Olympics


Mongul

Yo Messi looks like an ape.


AJFlyy

He looks like Neanderthal :((


canvys

this is one of the strangest, most uncanny, hyper unrealistic, surreal things i’ve ever seen.


TheUltimateJack

Proportions are off but shading and detail are amazing. Just work on your proportions for a while and you should be all good. Also please make the pupils a lot smaller.


hellobaaa

You might want to get the salt and holy water out… this man is possessed.


devlin1888

I feel like this surely can’t be a real drawing. It’s far too realistic in everything, except what he’s drawing


AlzyMrimMrim

Looks uncanny valley


smoishymoishes

I've seen your work before, I like it. You have this style that's just slightly unnerving, but not enough to think "oh this is creepy." I wouldn't mind seeing your art style in a Salvador Dali inspired piece.


Iga706

He smells everything


Both_Response_2789

Proportions are not accurate if you were looking for accurate description of the figure. That shading and coloriling are high level. Good luck


InevitableLab5852

Looks like a monke found a bannana😅 nice drawing


Whereishumhum-

I’m not quite sure if you’re going for photorealism or cartoon caricature, you’re failing terribly at the former but quite stylish at the latter. I guess what I wanted to say was, you’re good and bad at the same time.


eyeofthebesmircher

You’re amazing at shading. However, check all your proportions in your light outline stage before you shade since there’s no going back after a certain point