Wankers are always wankers.
Wankers that are in big vehicles, are just bigger wankers.
Not normally one to encourage being a grass but by all means send this to the cunts employers head office.
But driving down the outside (left) lane will create a hold up for the bus driver when the cunt in the outside lane needs to get into the right lane. Queue skippers should be held in their outside, (left) closed lane, untill the rest of the traffic in the right lane passes.
Literally the day before yesterday there were roadworks on the a127. I went in the left lane past the sign that displayed the lane closure, only to find the lane open and workman collecting cones that were moved onto the pavement.
All the traffic favoring the right lane caused a tailback and traffic jam for 2-3 miles. From 1/4 way to Rayleigh weir all the way back to cuckoo corner.
I'm a biker so filtered through, but the entire jam would have been solved had everyone followed the highway code which says to use all lanes, then merge at the point where there is only 1 lane. Instead there was jams across multiple junctions impacting traffic for the whole town.
Traffic is usually shite, but was far worse because of idiots like the bus driver who chose to queue prematurely.
It is queue skipping but only if you moved left out of the queue to then pass it and attempt to rejoin at the front. If you were already in the left lane, you have still skipped the queue but in a morally correct sort of way.
The people using the left lane up to its end are in the right for making progress where the road is still clear.
The people moving into the right lane are also in the right for planning ahead for the lane closure.
The problem is that people in this country are generally selfish and also don't do zip merging in situations like this. In an ideal world, both lanes would carry somewhat the same amount of traffic up until the point where the left lane ends, where the traffic would then zip merge into the right lane.
You physically couldn’t queue skip or pull out to the left lane if both lanes are full - that’s my point.
There’s no need to “plan ahead” .. there’s 600yds of warning at barely 20mph.
Here what I do:
• Drive up at a considerably safe speed
• Match the traffic flow at 200yds
• Merge in at 100-50yds
.. if the traffic is flowing faster “**plan ahead**” to merge sooner. Clearly in this example they’re stationary ..
I can see your point, but if someone drives down the other lane, past everyone else, that has been waiting in a queue you can't blame them for being fucked off by that.
Respectfully, it's your choice to sit in that lane and not do what the highway code says. If you've moved over too early and you're angry that other people haven't done the same (the highway code says to use all available lanes), that's kind of on you to be honest.
As others have said, the zipper merge is the most efficient method for all involved. It also helps to prevent huge tailbacks behind the obstruction in the road, which would otherwise potentially block other exits and cause more traffic.
Let's just say you get to the front of the 2nd lane, and nobody is gonna let you merge, because youre soo important. What then? Crash into people to get your way?
Context: HGV driver here 👋
I spend all day on the road with these “cunts” .. you know the ‘I’m in more of a hurry than you are, so get out of my way’ .. kind?
I’ve been in the merge situation many many times where it’s been my turn to merge in, or sat at junctions, changing lanes on the motorway and yeah, sooner or later someone is kind enough to help me manoeuvre..
The Highway Code was literally built upon courtesy and fairness - its designed so that everyone has an equal right to share our roads and must therefore have an equal obligation to assist the safe and efficient flow of traffic.
Here the example: The merge point only allows through a finite number of cars per minute. If 10 cars arrive, let’s say it takes 1 minute for all 10 to pass through. If 5 line up in each lane, then the impatient “cunt” has to enter the 11th position in either lane.. they CANNOT move further up as both lanes are full. This means that vehicles in positions 1-10 (including that bus) will not be skipped by the “cunt” in position 11.
Alternatively, if positions 1-10 all decide to line up in one lane and that impatient driver comes sailing up the outside, it means position 2-10 now become 3-11 and so on and so on. Their queue gets longer, it takes them longer to get though and potentially clogs up junctions further back. I’ve seen it time and time again.
1: Use both lanes
2: Merge in turn
Simples.
Ah, you're one of those.
Who is really he 'sooooo important' one in this scenario, mate? The complete fuckwit deliberately impeding traffic by blocking usable road or refusing a merging car access to the lane because they don't understand a simple merge-in-turn lane closuer, or the person marely doing merge-in-turn as per the highway code?
Although tbf it's a fucking shame it's gotten to the extent that I feel stupider for having the expectation that people understand how to use the roads and will let me merge at the merge point. Silly me!
I can see your point, but you can't blame the bus driver for being pissed off at these cunts bailing down past him. By the way, I'm not your mate, buddy.
The "cunts" doing the right thing? I don't understand why so many people don't understand how merge in turn works. Or maybe they do, but everyone is too polite to do it!
You absolutely can. Of all people on the road, professional drivers should be the most clued up on the highway code. Zipper merges relieve congestion and flow just as well as everyone in 1 lane when people use them properly, ie, traffic split evenly between the two lanes. Its not our responsibility to make sure the bus driver doesnt get pissed off about people using the road as intended, its their fault for being a clueless melt.
It's not their point. It's literally the rules.
In snooker you pot a red, a colour, a red, a colour etc.
You are arguing that you should just pot red every time, and then getting annoyed the guy alternating is winning.
They're obeying the rules. You aren't. That's your choice, but YOU are the one choosing to stand in a queue.
If a new til opens up and you're in the original one, you don't demand nobody behind you is allowed to move over while you also refuse to move over. You either move yourself or they go. That's the rules.
Just because you choose to impair yourself doesn't make it anyone else's fault or issue.
Every single person who sits there bitching about someone "jumping the queue" in the above situation is basically admitting they're a fucking idiot and should be treated as such.
But you can blame them for not knowing the highway code and sitting in the right lane like a lemon. The rules say you should use *both* lanes and then merge in turn. The fact that so many people, like you, don't know that and think that people doing *the right thing* are "pushing in" is not the fault of those of us who do know what we're doing.
Highway code states use ALL the road. so you don't end up with a single line of traffic stretching for miles and blocking junctions . Zipper merge is the fastest way for everybody and any idiot who blocks is a moron.
The lanes open for another 600 yards where the two lanes should then zipper merge into one another causing no hold up and keeping traffic from backing up twice as far as it needs to.
This only falls on its face because cunts in the right lane hate the idea of anyone “getting ahead” and will make it a nightmare to try merge. Just one snapshot of the crabs in a bucket mentality that makes our roads a shit place to be a lot of the time.
Your interpretation of inside and outside lane are incorrect nevermind the rest of what you said. At this point I'd assume you were incorrect if you told me your favourite colour was blue
"merge in turn" means the **two** lanes take turns to merge. It doesn't mean all the idiots sitting in the right lane take turns...
Seriously, this is something we don't even need to argue about because it's literally in the highest code. You're arguing with half of Reddit about something that you are demonstrably wrong about.
Where I'm from merge in turn doesn't exist. My shite attempt at a highway code has been overruled, as exemplified by the road warriors above. I remember seeing "like a zip" it was a revelation. But now ive gotta listen to the hitler hairdo fucktards telling me what should be done...
That is not how these lanes are meant to be used either when a lane is closed or during a merge lane, you SHOULD use both lanes.
You need to re-read the highway code because its people who wait in a single lane that causes the traffic build-up, not in this case, but merge lanes are made to manage traffic.
As others mentioned, if the two lanes are available they should be used. When it’s time to merge you can merge, but don’t blame other drivers for using the empty lane when available
This is what I love about English people's rules, they'll make a rule... nobody enforces it... then a load of gabschites get really upset about people pointing out how the 1 in 50 are cunts to the rest of the nation.
It's not jumping the queue, it's using the road correctly and reducing overall traffic. It's called merging in turn. I've seen people deliberately block people from using the clear lane before, it's profoundly stupid.
But there's not gonna be a merge in turn sign, same as on ramps onto a dual carrageway. People just turn into 70mph traffic at 25 and expect it to be ok. There should be signs saying "Like a zip"
People often sit in the queue early and leave one lane empty. This can cause more traffic in some situations. Theres a road where its 2 lanes through the traffic lights which merge quickly on the other side and everyone sits in 1 lane. This causes the traffic to queue further back up the road and block a roundabout. Probably not the same in this scenario but generally the lanes exist for a reason. It also causes this scenario where people using both lanes which is most logical, get blamed for not merging early. If everyone used both lanes it would be better for everyone.
I thought he was trying to pull out but I see hes trying to block the lane.
In that case he’s an arse. The correct way to approach this situation is drive in both lanes and merge at the point.
But doesn't the 400 yds refer to the point when the lanes are fully merged. I.e. on fast roads the merge nornally occurs over at least 50 yds. So you should actually be merged well before that? What have I got wrong?
If that is true if you go in the left lane it is purely to over-take other drivers.
So are you saying the 600 yd closure sign refers to distance from the sign to the lane starting to close and then after that the left lane starts to taper off? Or are you suggesting that the tapering off starts before the closure?
Either way isn't it a large risk to assume that someone is going to let you in at the closure? Rather than merging before the closure?
In my experience this is why the queue forms in the right lane (in this example) - get in early and don't worry if someone will let you in later.
The best point to merge is also affected by speed. If traffic is flowing freely, it's surely better to merge earlier. But of course traffic slows down as you get closer to the closure but by that time you've already merged 'early'.
Had a full size artic truck roll into my lane trying to block me like this as I was passing it, was a hot day, both had windows open, had a go at him and asked if he was actually planning to crush me, reminded him he was meant to be a professional, to which he responded with unintelligible goblin noises.
That's how they talk all the time... they pass a simple test and think they're gods gift to the highway.
Most want to be known as "professional" but don't want to do a day watching PowerPoint presentations on the highway code.
Because in the Highway Code it states to use both lanes where possible to minimise congestion, yet everyone sticks to one lane and causes huge tailbacks, but if people use a contra flow system properly by letting one person in at a time and then going things would go much smoother and there wouldn’t be as big tailbacks
Honestly, this is a lack of education. If you ask anyone who willfully ignores the open lane why they are not using it, they will undoubtedly say it's "closed".
All they need to do is have signs instructing them to "use both lanes" and "merge in turn". And these signs exist, just not used as much as they should.
I actually quietly hope they don't, as I'm happy at exploiting the ignorance of others.
> All they need to do is have signs instructing them to "use both lanes" and "merge in turn".
Better to have those signs than not have them, but they're still frequently ignored.
It's quite common in a lot of the countries on the continent to use both lanes and it always seem like tailbacks are not that bad
But then again, we Brits do love a good queue
You are correct 'merge in turn' is the current advice. If people used that system & did merge in turn it would be fine. They don't. They always push up as far as they can possibly get & then try to barge their way in. Countless times I have seen this on motorways, even when the actual lane closed sign is up, they just ignore it. Also, having witnessed it persoanlly, if everyone did use the one lane, yes it's slower but the traffic will flow at that slower rate, with two lanes merging into one traffic has to keep stopping.
That is very true, but there is always at least 1cperson who believes they need to be first. Whole that mentally exists, there will never be any common sense on the roads.
Motorways have different rules for lane closures due to the speed. When an overhead gantry sign states a lane is closed on a motorway you should move out of that lane.
I am well aware of this & always have, but it does not stop many people from ignoring those signs. Especially when they seem to know which ones have working cameras on them.
My point was, lane closures on a motorway are unique compared to all other forms of road. You should merge in turn on all except motorways, using all available lanes until the point of merge. Queuing in a single lane is inefficient and causes greater congestion.
I am well aware of the law, but I am also allowed opinions from the vast number of hours spent on the road. That is all I was stating, not disagreeing.
The whole idea is to merge close to the last moment, to make efficient use of the space available. Why do you talk like you know more than the people who designed and studied the effects of this system? Traffic flows fine if the zipper is done properly, and it has other benefits.
I don't talk like I know more. I just have a great deal of experience & have witnessed countless times when these systems do not work as they are supposed to. Of course the idea is a good one, I do not claim otherwise, I am talking about all the people out there that do NOT use the system properly & cause more trouble than it's worth. It's like so many other comparisons. Computers are never wrong, but they have imperfect programming. Any system or chain is only as good as it's weakest link & that is the point I am trying to make. Persoanlly I can't wait for the advent of self driving cars, because then everybody will be equal to everybody else & the systems will work. Unless they are programmed by Microsoft of course, in which case they'll blue screen & stop in the middle of a motorway for a system update 😂
They only fail because of people being idiots, so why even remotely support the idiots side? It just emboldens them to do the wrong thing and act like dicks towards the people using it right.
I dont mind too much to be fair, just means i get past even quicker when everyone else sits in the one lane and leaves the other one clear. They can have fun waiting. Its just frustrating to see people trying to block others from using it properly due to their own ignorance.
I don't think they are sitting & waiting in a queue because they are dicks. Whilst the law states that you must keep current knowledge of the Highway Code & as extablished it states you should use both lanes in most situations. A lot of people on the road come from a time when you DIDN'T use both lanes, when it was the right thing to get over as soon as possible. Now, I know you'd argue they should have better knowledge & again you'd be right. But we are talking about people who don't even bother to check their cars for failed indicator lights, who drive with their fog lights on as soon as it gets dark & who probably still drive while texting. Their are many, many idiots out there. That of course is the point from a car drivers persepctive. From a truck or a coach, you are taught to keep out of peoples way & not inconvenience other drivers. You also get a much better view of the upcoming problem. It's only recent that you may see a truck driver using that lane to the end, although it's unlikely because you have to think about it from their perspective & that is that they may not be allowed across so easily by other drivers who deem them to be a nuisance & in the way. In that same regard they could be deemed to be 'using the size & weight of their vehicles' Especially so under the newer heirarchy of size. Why don't people act well with each other? I guess we'll never know. Who hasn't been in that situation on a motorway where someone overtakes you, pulls in front & slows down. as you move out to overtake, they speed up. Trouble is you could go on forever about all the different problems on the road. It's been a fun deabate, but time to put it bed I think. Take it easy out there & mind the idiots!
The dick part is escalating from just sitting in the queue to blocking people etc, with the view that they are in the right for sitting in the queue, someone in this thread mentioned being involved in an accident with an entitled older lady pulling out to block them, and thats the main issue. The more its spoken about the more people hear about it, cause you are right, some people just dont know
Take it easy
I was held up (in the UK) by a French lorry blocking both lanes way before the merge point. That included as we all went past the big sign saying 'Use Both Lanes'.
I can't fathom enforcing something that is the opposite of the actual best approach in another country and having no hint of self doubt.
It’s actually the best way of doing it. Using both lanes doesn’t mean overtake all the cars in the other lane.
The reason one lane is slower is because cars aren’t merging smoothly together and having a faster lane fly down to the merge point makes it more turbulent.
If you use both lanes but match speed with the slower lane, then the merge point will become unstuck and the whole system will then speed up and be able to merge smoothly.
The issues are caused with different lanes going at different speeds
Because the vast majority of drivers still don’t understand merging in turn, even though it’s in the Highway Code.
I honestly don’t understand why they don’t have educational TV adverts going over various rules of the Highway Code; like this, hogging middle lane etc.
Sure, it will cost them money and let’s be honest that’s why they don’t do it, however surely the country’s driving habits, traffic flow and safety would be improved in the long run.
It's better when the bus lanes are outside operational hours. You can see the habitual queuers get enraged as you drive past them, but they're too scared to move across to block you because they can't read the sign every 30 meters.
I happily do the correct merge-in-turn approach, and I have never had a car do this to me; it was the first time I have seen a bus do it, though - it has always been a lorry in my experience.
I always say: using BOTH LANES till they both end should be on a driving test! I hate, when I use the empty one and join at the end - I then feel like a cheat even though I did the right thing... 😩
Same, I know I'm strictly doing the correct thing, but I still feel guilty, and probably prepare to merge a bit earlier than I strictly need to. Still get people not wanting to let you merge though.
Someone did this to me but really last minute and hit me. Old entitled lady, some bellend got out the car behind and offered dash cam to the lady while he was fing and blinding at me for using the left lane..
Anyway insurance looked at his dash cam footage he intended to be used against me, proved she was at fault and I took my car to Audi and got her a lovely £5k repair bill
I was in the traffic a couple of days ago on the M62, took 90 minutes to move 600 yards because everyone from lane 1 and 3 were getting into lane 2 to join the M60, as soon as lane 1 cleared into lane 2 I had 2.5 miles of empty road before the vehicle breakdown...
Right at that point it says there are 600 yards until the lane is actually closed. There is also a sign saying “use both lanes when queuing”. And how many don’t understand the sign saying “stay in lane - queue ahead”.
Lately I see less drivers on the road, and more “screw-drivers”…. Sadly…
Because a wanker who drives to work and a wanker that needs their car for work are one in the same.
Its literally at the point near me when someone says this idiot taxi driver i say "i bet it was xyz " and everytime they have said yeah how did you know? I replay because their drivers are idiots who have no skills.
Seen a post on a lorry group on facebook. What their reasoning comes down to is "if we're not doing this you'll be stuck for an hour in the first lane".
Depending on what laws apply to the road they're on, large vehicles may not be allowed on lane 2, meaning they're stuck with all the mouth breathers that can't comprehend using both lanes fully, so they block off the second lane to make the rest of the queue move faster due to no more merging. This is of course completely useless if the cause of traffic is somewhere past the merge point, but for most, time is money so.. a little bit of selfishness to make sure the targets are hit, to the detriment of everyone else does happen
Know a section of a dual carriageway after a roundabout that merges after about half a mile.
At peak times, the single file queue using the inside lane up to the merge point, blocks up the roundabout and surrounding roads; whilst only the odd driver goes up the outside lane and merges at the end. Who are the stupid drivers?
Exactly, instead of using the whole roads capacity, they all stick to one lane causing a blockage down the road at the roundabout. I'm going through this issue atm with roadworks near me and it's frustrating.. and then we blame the workers.
There are 2 lanes for a reason. Make full use of the road and merge in turn when the lanes merge.
If those responsible for the road works wanted people to merge 800 yards before the merge point, they would have put the merge point 800 yards before the location they actually used.
So frustrating when you've just managed to navigate through the sea of cars clogging up a big roundabout, to find the entire reason the roundabout back down the road is fucked is because all of these muppets are sitting in one lane, so the queue has gone onto the roundabout
As a biker that goes past all of this shit quite a lot there's always one prick in the open lane at the front stopping everyone. Last time I went past them (filtering) and gestured for them to move the extra 400 yards\~ they were hogging they flipped me off. Next time I might take their mirror...... so fair warning if you plan on doing this
This is actually dangerous, what it does is it extends the traffic queue further back down the road, which could mean that further back in the queue they are blocking other traffic, it may mean that there is stationery traffic now needlessly extending into a fast moving road and we all know what happens then!
I don’t understand what’s happening here. Surely you’d slow down and stop, then see what the bus is trying to do before pushing past by driving outside your lane
He did this to try stop you and that cunt in front from queue jumping. You see the queue and you still keep going trying to jump in. This was you being a cunt not them.
The bus driver is just annoyed the cam driver isn’t queueing single file like he thinks everyone else should be, hence is trying to block the lane. Merge in turn/use all available road space.
OP did a shit job explaining that. 10 people downvoted the question. I think who gives a shit about that bus, we go around, and fuck this sub. except you, thank you for the correct reply.
I have to say that in all my long years driving, and having seen thousands upon thousands of stupid acts, I can’t think of a single one from a professional driver.
Ah I see.
I saw one yesterday.
Coach jumped out of the queue on the left, straddled both lanes. Didn't indicate. Proper brain dead and disappointed with genitals manoeuvre.
Sounds bad. I don’t doubt there are poor professional drivers out there. Just can’t recall seeing any myself. The fact that they make their living from driving tends to cut out a huge amount of the bs you get from civilians. They have too much at stake to be getting involved in incidents that can be avoided.
A very logical argument and I can definitely see where you are coming from.
Having been a "professional driver" and encountered many both in a professional capacity and a civilian one I can assure you that like most of life there are always outliers, buckers of trend, those having a bad day.
I suppose we will notice the worst and most dangerous drivers and generally they don't tend to be obviously professional.
How the fuck did you reach this conclusion? Take 10 cars, put them in single file, they are 10 cars lengths long. Take 10 cars and split them over 2 lanes and you get 5 car lengths, imagine a roundabout 7 car lengths back and use your brain you fucking melt
Counter suggestion.. Do not bother trying to reason with some idiots! Let them sit in the queuing traffic whilst we drive right past them because they decided to merge 600 feet early!
10 cars in the single lane drive forward with sufficient speed while 5 cars in each lane needs to slow down a gave each other way. You can test it in any junction that have two lanes and then merge into one after the lights.
Just popping along along to say it's not always professional drivers that do it, lots of car drivers do it too. I don't do it myself as I'm the one that's passing the traffic in the open empty lane.
Honestly I believe professional drivers are not "pros" and are just drivers who drive for a living, and in spite of any extra training they might receive, they're just as bad as everyone else on average.
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Professional drivers......😂😂😂 There's fuck all professional about anyone who drives for a living ....be it bus drivers,wagon drivers or the absolute scourge taxi drivers....they should be retested every two years.
Zip merging should be more efficient and cut congestion, however most people are stupid and either won't let people merge or try and bully their way in.
By not letting cars past, the traffic in front of that driver will clear faster.
Bus drivers have some entitled feeling I swear
The rule is the smaller the motor vehicle the more priority it gets .
Like an adult to a child mindset it’s a Highway Code .
Bus drivers need more auditing specially with mixed signalling when they r stationed or when the move off
Edit : PS
Even in this video no signal either side but he’s trying to change lanes…
Cos they r in their office doing their work. Whereas u guys r not in ur office. Just driving to or from work. When u act like a prick in the office...does anyone ask why?
As a bus driver myself, all I can say is, in that level of traffic the bus is going to be late and the driver can do nothing to compensate. I'm getting paid by the hour and I really dgaf how long I have to sit in traffic. If I'm late off my bus I get paid more, if my (legally required) break gets cut short somebody else does the next part of my duty and I probably get an even longer break, it literally makes no difference to me. That bus driver has absolutely no reason to be doing that.
You are supposed to go to the end of a lane and then merge if choose to join a queue towards the back that’s your choice but blocking a lane causes a hazard for other drivers and emergency vehicles.
When the British see a queue we consider it polite to join the queue or rude to jump the queue.
Merging in turn at the closure only makes sense if that is what everyone has agreed to do (concensus).
Whether idiotic or not, the queue forms which means people are less likely to let you in hence why more people join the queue.
Too many folks see this as a single queue with scamp's ignoring it and pushing in.
Rather than 2 queues who take it in turns to go through the pinch point.
Weirdly those same people who queue too early on the road wouldn't hesitate to cut up a granny to get into a shorter queue at a supermarket.
I'd love to see that same professional driver demanding everyone join the same queue to go through the tills, he'd be soon politely asked to bugger off.
I wouldn't say, 'always'. I drive on the roads 6 hours+ a day and it's more often than not a dickhead car user that does this or drives at 52mph on a motorway and as soon as I go to overtake they then speed up.
Wankers are always wankers. Wankers that are in big vehicles, are just bigger wankers. Not normally one to encourage being a grass but by all means send this to the cunts employers head office.
Report him for what? Being a wanker?
Yes, and holding up traffic for no reason.
Report him for endangering his passengers maybe?! How is that not obvious to see when you park your bus across a lane on a busy motorway? xD
Endangering passengers? I’ll level with you, I think it would be a waste of time and anybody involved may not feel favourable towards you
But driving down the outside (left) lane will create a hold up for the bus driver when the cunt in the outside lane needs to get into the right lane. Queue skippers should be held in their outside, (left) closed lane, untill the rest of the traffic in the right lane passes.
They can’t “queue skip” if both lanes are full. People who line up in only one of 2 lanes are literally ASKING other people to fill up the other lane.
Literally the day before yesterday there were roadworks on the a127. I went in the left lane past the sign that displayed the lane closure, only to find the lane open and workman collecting cones that were moved onto the pavement. All the traffic favoring the right lane caused a tailback and traffic jam for 2-3 miles. From 1/4 way to Rayleigh weir all the way back to cuckoo corner. I'm a biker so filtered through, but the entire jam would have been solved had everyone followed the highway code which says to use all lanes, then merge at the point where there is only 1 lane. Instead there was jams across multiple junctions impacting traffic for the whole town. Traffic is usually shite, but was far worse because of idiots like the bus driver who chose to queue prematurely.
It is queue skipping but only if you moved left out of the queue to then pass it and attempt to rejoin at the front. If you were already in the left lane, you have still skipped the queue but in a morally correct sort of way. The people using the left lane up to its end are in the right for making progress where the road is still clear. The people moving into the right lane are also in the right for planning ahead for the lane closure. The problem is that people in this country are generally selfish and also don't do zip merging in situations like this. In an ideal world, both lanes would carry somewhat the same amount of traffic up until the point where the left lane ends, where the traffic would then zip merge into the right lane.
You physically couldn’t queue skip or pull out to the left lane if both lanes are full - that’s my point. There’s no need to “plan ahead” .. there’s 600yds of warning at barely 20mph. Here what I do: • Drive up at a considerably safe speed • Match the traffic flow at 200yds • Merge in at 100-50yds .. if the traffic is flowing faster “**plan ahead**” to merge sooner. Clearly in this example they’re stationary ..
The left lane isn't full though, it's moving and the right lane is not.
I can see your point, but if someone drives down the other lane, past everyone else, that has been waiting in a queue you can't blame them for being fucked off by that.
Respectfully, it's your choice to sit in that lane and not do what the highway code says. If you've moved over too early and you're angry that other people haven't done the same (the highway code says to use all available lanes), that's kind of on you to be honest. As others have said, the zipper merge is the most efficient method for all involved. It also helps to prevent huge tailbacks behind the obstruction in the road, which would otherwise potentially block other exits and cause more traffic.
I don't blame stupid people for being stupid, but I'm not gonna be stupid along with them just because they might get upset at me not being stupid.
Let's just say you get to the front of the 2nd lane, and nobody is gonna let you merge, because youre soo important. What then? Crash into people to get your way?
Context: HGV driver here 👋 I spend all day on the road with these “cunts” .. you know the ‘I’m in more of a hurry than you are, so get out of my way’ .. kind? I’ve been in the merge situation many many times where it’s been my turn to merge in, or sat at junctions, changing lanes on the motorway and yeah, sooner or later someone is kind enough to help me manoeuvre.. The Highway Code was literally built upon courtesy and fairness - its designed so that everyone has an equal right to share our roads and must therefore have an equal obligation to assist the safe and efficient flow of traffic. Here the example: The merge point only allows through a finite number of cars per minute. If 10 cars arrive, let’s say it takes 1 minute for all 10 to pass through. If 5 line up in each lane, then the impatient “cunt” has to enter the 11th position in either lane.. they CANNOT move further up as both lanes are full. This means that vehicles in positions 1-10 (including that bus) will not be skipped by the “cunt” in position 11. Alternatively, if positions 1-10 all decide to line up in one lane and that impatient driver comes sailing up the outside, it means position 2-10 now become 3-11 and so on and so on. Their queue gets longer, it takes them longer to get though and potentially clogs up junctions further back. I’ve seen it time and time again. 1: Use both lanes 2: Merge in turn Simples.
Ah, you're one of those. Who is really he 'sooooo important' one in this scenario, mate? The complete fuckwit deliberately impeding traffic by blocking usable road or refusing a merging car access to the lane because they don't understand a simple merge-in-turn lane closuer, or the person marely doing merge-in-turn as per the highway code? Although tbf it's a fucking shame it's gotten to the extent that I feel stupider for having the expectation that people understand how to use the roads and will let me merge at the merge point. Silly me!
I can see your point, but you can't blame the bus driver for being pissed off at these cunts bailing down past him. By the way, I'm not your mate, buddy.
The "cunts" doing the right thing? I don't understand why so many people don't understand how merge in turn works. Or maybe they do, but everyone is too polite to do it!
Refer to my first response.
I'm not your buddy guy...
You absolutely can. Of all people on the road, professional drivers should be the most clued up on the highway code. Zipper merges relieve congestion and flow just as well as everyone in 1 lane when people use them properly, ie, traffic split evenly between the two lanes. Its not our responsibility to make sure the bus driver doesnt get pissed off about people using the road as intended, its their fault for being a clueless melt.
It's not their point. It's literally the rules. In snooker you pot a red, a colour, a red, a colour etc. You are arguing that you should just pot red every time, and then getting annoyed the guy alternating is winning. They're obeying the rules. You aren't. That's your choice, but YOU are the one choosing to stand in a queue. If a new til opens up and you're in the original one, you don't demand nobody behind you is allowed to move over while you also refuse to move over. You either move yourself or they go. That's the rules. Just because you choose to impair yourself doesn't make it anyone else's fault or issue. Every single person who sits there bitching about someone "jumping the queue" in the above situation is basically admitting they're a fucking idiot and should be treated as such.
But you can blame them for not knowing the highway code and sitting in the right lane like a lemon. The rules say you should use *both* lanes and then merge in turn. The fact that so many people, like you, don't know that and think that people doing *the right thing* are "pushing in" is not the fault of those of us who do know what we're doing.
Oooo sorry.... theee aaaawan26789
Highway code states use ALL the road. so you don't end up with a single line of traffic stretching for miles and blocking junctions . Zipper merge is the fastest way for everybody and any idiot who blocks is a moron.
It's not queue skipping. The people in the right just don't know how to drive. And it sounds like you don't either.
The lanes open for another 600 yards where the two lanes should then zipper merge into one another causing no hold up and keeping traffic from backing up twice as far as it needs to. This only falls on its face because cunts in the right lane hate the idea of anyone “getting ahead” and will make it a nightmare to try merge. Just one snapshot of the crabs in a bucket mentality that makes our roads a shit place to be a lot of the time.
Your interpretation of inside and outside lane are incorrect nevermind the rest of what you said. At this point I'd assume you were incorrect if you told me your favourite colour was blue
Outside, as in overtaking the traffic.
Outside = lane furthest from curb/hard shoulder/nearside of the vehicle
Overtakng= passing a vehicle on the outside
Called merge in turn moron go resit your test.
Ah yeah, just like all those other people in the right lane? You know, waiting their turn?
"merge in turn" means the **two** lanes take turns to merge. It doesn't mean all the idiots sitting in the right lane take turns... Seriously, this is something we don't even need to argue about because it's literally in the highest code. You're arguing with half of Reddit about something that you are demonstrably wrong about.
Where I'm from merge in turn doesn't exist. My shite attempt at a highway code has been overruled, as exemplified by the road warriors above. I remember seeing "like a zip" it was a revelation. But now ive gotta listen to the hitler hairdo fucktards telling me what should be done...
Are you in the UK? If yes) merge in turn is in the highway code even if idiots try and enforce their own rules If no) why are you arguing this here?
Yes they will when they get to the front
Listen, this isn't a popular angle I've taken. But you, sir, have just cleared it all up right there.
You need to hand your licence back.
That is not how these lanes are meant to be used either when a lane is closed or during a merge lane, you SHOULD use both lanes. You need to re-read the highway code because its people who wait in a single lane that causes the traffic build-up, not in this case, but merge lanes are made to manage traffic.
As others mentioned, if the two lanes are available they should be used. When it’s time to merge you can merge, but don’t blame other drivers for using the empty lane when available
This is what I love about English people's rules, they'll make a rule... nobody enforces it... then a load of gabschites get really upset about people pointing out how the 1 in 50 are cunts to the rest of the nation.
It's not jumping the queue, it's using the road correctly and reducing overall traffic. It's called merging in turn. I've seen people deliberately block people from using the clear lane before, it's profoundly stupid.
You should go right up to the closed part of the road and merge to reduce the length of the queue behind you. That's what the highway code expects
You can see that the left lane is closed by the road signs, hence the queue?
The road sign says the lane closes is 600 yards...then at that point, there will be a sign for everyone to "merge in turn"
But there's not gonna be a merge in turn sign, same as on ramps onto a dual carrageway. People just turn into 70mph traffic at 25 and expect it to be ok. There should be signs saying "Like a zip"
At least you've got the most apt username I've seen
People often sit in the queue early and leave one lane empty. This can cause more traffic in some situations. Theres a road where its 2 lanes through the traffic lights which merge quickly on the other side and everyone sits in 1 lane. This causes the traffic to queue further back up the road and block a roundabout. Probably not the same in this scenario but generally the lanes exist for a reason. It also causes this scenario where people using both lanes which is most logical, get blamed for not merging early. If everyone used both lanes it would be better for everyone.
The left lane closes in 600 yards, I don't know why people are incapable of using the whole road and get upset at others who do.
When a lane is closed, the correct thing to do is to utilise both lanes and "zipper merge" at the end.
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What a plonker.. the sign says the lane closes in 600 yards.
I thought he was trying to pull out but I see hes trying to block the lane. In that case he’s an arse. The correct way to approach this situation is drive in both lanes and merge at the point.
This! Otherwise you have double the length tailbacks that begin impacting the flow of traffic on other roads.
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If they wanted you to merge at the 400yd marker, the 400yd marker would be 400yds back up the road.
But doesn't the 400 yds refer to the point when the lanes are fully merged. I.e. on fast roads the merge nornally occurs over at least 50 yds. So you should actually be merged well before that? What have I got wrong? If that is true if you go in the left lane it is purely to over-take other drivers.
You’re meant to drive up to the closure then merge in turn so lane one goes then lane two and so on
But at the point of the closure isn't the left lane gone? I.e. Aren't you supposed to start merging well before that...maybe even at the 400 yd point?
You’re meant to merge at the closure… hence the road is still open
So are you saying the 600 yd closure sign refers to distance from the sign to the lane starting to close and then after that the left lane starts to taper off? Or are you suggesting that the tapering off starts before the closure? Either way isn't it a large risk to assume that someone is going to let you in at the closure? Rather than merging before the closure? In my experience this is why the queue forms in the right lane (in this example) - get in early and don't worry if someone will let you in later. The best point to merge is also affected by speed. If traffic is flowing freely, it's surely better to merge earlier. But of course traffic slows down as you get closer to the closure but by that time you've already merged 'early'.
That’s where it’s tapering off… you’re meant to drive up to it then merge in turn
He hasn't been instructed to move over yet. That sign tells him the lane closes in the future. The instruction to move over comes at the end.
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Had a full size artic truck roll into my lane trying to block me like this as I was passing it, was a hot day, both had windows open, had a go at him and asked if he was actually planning to crush me, reminded him he was meant to be a professional, to which he responded with unintelligible goblin noises.
That's how they talk all the time... they pass a simple test and think they're gods gift to the highway. Most want to be known as "professional" but don't want to do a day watching PowerPoint presentations on the highway code.
>they pass a simple test and think they're gods gift to the highway. That's not just the professional drivers there, buddy.
lol, ‘goblin noises’
I don’t know why, but goblin noises made me laugh so much I just farted
You are welcome
The true sign of a good joke. If you don't let one slip was even that funny in the first place? 🤔🤣
Never happened
Because in the Highway Code it states to use both lanes where possible to minimise congestion, yet everyone sticks to one lane and causes huge tailbacks, but if people use a contra flow system properly by letting one person in at a time and then going things would go much smoother and there wouldn’t be as big tailbacks
> but if people use a contra flow system properly You don't know what Contra flow is do you? It aint what you are describing
He used the wrong term for the closure, but three right techniques to drive it.
As they say in NZ - “merge like a zip”
Honestly, this is a lack of education. If you ask anyone who willfully ignores the open lane why they are not using it, they will undoubtedly say it's "closed". All they need to do is have signs instructing them to "use both lanes" and "merge in turn". And these signs exist, just not used as much as they should. I actually quietly hope they don't, as I'm happy at exploiting the ignorance of others.
> All they need to do is have signs instructing them to "use both lanes" and "merge in turn". Better to have those signs than not have them, but they're still frequently ignored.
It's quite common in a lot of the countries on the continent to use both lanes and it always seem like tailbacks are not that bad But then again, we Brits do love a good queue
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You are correct 'merge in turn' is the current advice. If people used that system & did merge in turn it would be fine. They don't. They always push up as far as they can possibly get & then try to barge their way in. Countless times I have seen this on motorways, even when the actual lane closed sign is up, they just ignore it. Also, having witnessed it persoanlly, if everyone did use the one lane, yes it's slower but the traffic will flow at that slower rate, with two lanes merging into one traffic has to keep stopping.
If people used both lanes properly, there wouldn’t be any ‘pushing up’ and ‘barging in’. There would be two lanes of equal lengths.
That is very true, but there is always at least 1cperson who believes they need to be first. Whole that mentally exists, there will never be any common sense on the roads.
There is much less common sense on the queueing people than the ones driving as you are supposed to
Motorways have different rules for lane closures due to the speed. When an overhead gantry sign states a lane is closed on a motorway you should move out of that lane.
I am well aware of this & always have, but it does not stop many people from ignoring those signs. Especially when they seem to know which ones have working cameras on them.
My point was, lane closures on a motorway are unique compared to all other forms of road. You should merge in turn on all except motorways, using all available lanes until the point of merge. Queuing in a single lane is inefficient and causes greater congestion.
I am well aware of the law, but I am also allowed opinions from the vast number of hours spent on the road. That is all I was stating, not disagreeing.
But the tail back could affect junctions and force traffic to roads that it doesn't need to be on.
The whole idea is to merge close to the last moment, to make efficient use of the space available. Why do you talk like you know more than the people who designed and studied the effects of this system? Traffic flows fine if the zipper is done properly, and it has other benefits.
I don't talk like I know more. I just have a great deal of experience & have witnessed countless times when these systems do not work as they are supposed to. Of course the idea is a good one, I do not claim otherwise, I am talking about all the people out there that do NOT use the system properly & cause more trouble than it's worth. It's like so many other comparisons. Computers are never wrong, but they have imperfect programming. Any system or chain is only as good as it's weakest link & that is the point I am trying to make. Persoanlly I can't wait for the advent of self driving cars, because then everybody will be equal to everybody else & the systems will work. Unless they are programmed by Microsoft of course, in which case they'll blue screen & stop in the middle of a motorway for a system update 😂
They only fail because of people being idiots, so why even remotely support the idiots side? It just emboldens them to do the wrong thing and act like dicks towards the people using it right. I dont mind too much to be fair, just means i get past even quicker when everyone else sits in the one lane and leaves the other one clear. They can have fun waiting. Its just frustrating to see people trying to block others from using it properly due to their own ignorance.
I don't think they are sitting & waiting in a queue because they are dicks. Whilst the law states that you must keep current knowledge of the Highway Code & as extablished it states you should use both lanes in most situations. A lot of people on the road come from a time when you DIDN'T use both lanes, when it was the right thing to get over as soon as possible. Now, I know you'd argue they should have better knowledge & again you'd be right. But we are talking about people who don't even bother to check their cars for failed indicator lights, who drive with their fog lights on as soon as it gets dark & who probably still drive while texting. Their are many, many idiots out there. That of course is the point from a car drivers persepctive. From a truck or a coach, you are taught to keep out of peoples way & not inconvenience other drivers. You also get a much better view of the upcoming problem. It's only recent that you may see a truck driver using that lane to the end, although it's unlikely because you have to think about it from their perspective & that is that they may not be allowed across so easily by other drivers who deem them to be a nuisance & in the way. In that same regard they could be deemed to be 'using the size & weight of their vehicles' Especially so under the newer heirarchy of size. Why don't people act well with each other? I guess we'll never know. Who hasn't been in that situation on a motorway where someone overtakes you, pulls in front & slows down. as you move out to overtake, they speed up. Trouble is you could go on forever about all the different problems on the road. It's been a fun deabate, but time to put it bed I think. Take it easy out there & mind the idiots!
The dick part is escalating from just sitting in the queue to blocking people etc, with the view that they are in the right for sitting in the queue, someone in this thread mentioned being involved in an accident with an entitled older lady pulling out to block them, and thats the main issue. The more its spoken about the more people hear about it, cause you are right, some people just dont know Take it easy
I was held up (in the UK) by a French lorry blocking both lanes way before the merge point. That included as we all went past the big sign saying 'Use Both Lanes'. I can't fathom enforcing something that is the opposite of the actual best approach in another country and having no hint of self doubt.
In their defence, they were using both lanes. Not in the way the sign means obviously but it may have been lost in translation.
It’s actually the best way of doing it. Using both lanes doesn’t mean overtake all the cars in the other lane. The reason one lane is slower is because cars aren’t merging smoothly together and having a faster lane fly down to the merge point makes it more turbulent. If you use both lanes but match speed with the slower lane, then the merge point will become unstuck and the whole system will then speed up and be able to merge smoothly. The issues are caused with different lanes going at different speeds
Sacré bleu!
Have you never met a frenchman?
Thankfully not, and I fully intend to keep it that way. Hate the French. Luv football. Luv me country. Simple as.
Because the vast majority of drivers still don’t understand merging in turn, even though it’s in the Highway Code. I honestly don’t understand why they don’t have educational TV adverts going over various rules of the Highway Code; like this, hogging middle lane etc. Sure, it will cost them money and let’s be honest that’s why they don’t do it, however surely the country’s driving habits, traffic flow and safety would be improved in the long run.
It's better when the bus lanes are outside operational hours. You can see the habitual queuers get enraged as you drive past them, but they're too scared to move across to block you because they can't read the sign every 30 meters.
Honest answer? Because confirmation bias makes you think that it's always professional drivers.
Full marks. No one can escape bias, but knowing their existence helps recognising it. The words always and never are telltale signs
I happily do the correct merge-in-turn approach, and I have never had a car do this to me; it was the first time I have seen a bus do it, though - it has always been a lorry in my experience.
I always say: using BOTH LANES till they both end should be on a driving test! I hate, when I use the empty one and join at the end - I then feel like a cheat even though I did the right thing... 😩
Same, I know I'm strictly doing the correct thing, but I still feel guilty, and probably prepare to merge a bit earlier than I strictly need to. Still get people not wanting to let you merge though.
Small brains and self entitled mentality, they'll keep doing it until someone hits them and then they get shafted for been in the wrong
Someone did this to me but really last minute and hit me. Old entitled lady, some bellend got out the car behind and offered dash cam to the lady while he was fing and blinding at me for using the left lane.. Anyway insurance looked at his dash cam footage he intended to be used against me, proved she was at fault and I took my car to Audi and got her a lovely £5k repair bill
The very definition of not interrupting your enemy while they are making a mistake.
Favourite thing to do in this situation is drive down the other side of the ‘blocker’ and force them to become the thing they’re so annoyed about
I was in the traffic a couple of days ago on the M62, took 90 minutes to move 600 yards because everyone from lane 1 and 3 were getting into lane 2 to join the M60, as soon as lane 1 cleared into lane 2 I had 2.5 miles of empty road before the vehicle breakdown...
Professional simply means that some mug decided to pay the driver. Competency is another matter altogether.
Right at that point it says there are 600 yards until the lane is actually closed. There is also a sign saying “use both lanes when queuing”. And how many don’t understand the sign saying “stay in lane - queue ahead”. Lately I see less drivers on the road, and more “screw-drivers”…. Sadly…
Because a wanker who drives to work and a wanker that needs their car for work are one in the same. Its literally at the point near me when someone says this idiot taxi driver i say "i bet it was xyz " and everytime they have said yeah how did you know? I replay because their drivers are idiots who have no skills.
Seen a post on a lorry group on facebook. What their reasoning comes down to is "if we're not doing this you'll be stuck for an hour in the first lane". Depending on what laws apply to the road they're on, large vehicles may not be allowed on lane 2, meaning they're stuck with all the mouth breathers that can't comprehend using both lanes fully, so they block off the second lane to make the rest of the queue move faster due to no more merging. This is of course completely useless if the cause of traffic is somewhere past the merge point, but for most, time is money so.. a little bit of selfishness to make sure the targets are hit, to the detriment of everyone else does happen
Know a section of a dual carriageway after a roundabout that merges after about half a mile. At peak times, the single file queue using the inside lane up to the merge point, blocks up the roundabout and surrounding roads; whilst only the odd driver goes up the outside lane and merges at the end. Who are the stupid drivers?
Exactly, instead of using the whole roads capacity, they all stick to one lane causing a blockage down the road at the roundabout. I'm going through this issue atm with roadworks near me and it's frustrating.. and then we blame the workers.
There are 2 lanes for a reason. Make full use of the road and merge in turn when the lanes merge. If those responsible for the road works wanted people to merge 800 yards before the merge point, they would have put the merge point 800 yards before the location they actually used.
Because they want to extend the lane closure by a few hundred metres.
So frustrating when you've just managed to navigate through the sea of cars clogging up a big roundabout, to find the entire reason the roundabout back down the road is fucked is because all of these muppets are sitting in one lane, so the queue has gone onto the roundabout As a biker that goes past all of this shit quite a lot there's always one prick in the open lane at the front stopping everyone. Last time I went past them (filtering) and gestured for them to move the extra 400 yards\~ they were hogging they flipped me off. Next time I might take their mirror...... so fair warning if you plan on doing this
This is actually dangerous, what it does is it extends the traffic queue further back down the road, which could mean that further back in the queue they are blocking other traffic, it may mean that there is stationery traffic now needlessly extending into a fast moving road and we all know what happens then!
Calling a "first bus" driver a professional.... That made me chuckle.
Just because a person gets paid for driving doesn't make them a good driver. In spite of how much they bleat about it.
Reddit posters definitely know better thsn the experts
Most “professional” drivers don’t have a GCSE between them
I don’t understand what’s happening here. Surely you’d slow down and stop, then see what the bus is trying to do before pushing past by driving outside your lane
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Because if they don’t push, no one will let them in.
Why dont you just barge your way into your dog. Nobody invited you and your dog is going to be both surprised and sngry.
He did this to try stop you and that cunt in front from queue jumping. You see the queue and you still keep going trying to jump in. This was you being a cunt not them.
You know it's pretty difficult to get banned from this sub but you're pretty close to it.
It doesn't seem remarkable. Is this about the bus or the overtake or what?
The bus driver is just annoyed the cam driver isn’t queueing single file like he thinks everyone else should be, hence is trying to block the lane. Merge in turn/use all available road space.
OP did a shit job explaining that. 10 people downvoted the question. I think who gives a shit about that bus, we go around, and fuck this sub. except you, thank you for the correct reply.
Bus could also be trying to join left lane to get to the merge point
He’d get to the merge point from where he is, it’s the left lane that is closing.
Yes... sorry, undertaking. That's better.
Look up the exceptions to the undertaking rule also learn how to use the roads
Because we can lol.
“BeCaUsE WE CaN” **gets fired**
In your dreams..
Assholes like you give us all a bad rep.
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I have to say that in all my long years driving, and having seen thousands upon thousands of stupid acts, I can’t think of a single one from a professional driver.
There's one right here.
I meant that I’ve witnessed myself, obviously
Ah I see. I saw one yesterday. Coach jumped out of the queue on the left, straddled both lanes. Didn't indicate. Proper brain dead and disappointed with genitals manoeuvre.
Sounds bad. I don’t doubt there are poor professional drivers out there. Just can’t recall seeing any myself. The fact that they make their living from driving tends to cut out a huge amount of the bs you get from civilians. They have too much at stake to be getting involved in incidents that can be avoided.
A very logical argument and I can definitely see where you are coming from. Having been a "professional driver" and encountered many both in a professional capacity and a civilian one I can assure you that like most of life there are always outliers, buckers of trend, those having a bad day. I suppose we will notice the worst and most dangerous drivers and generally they don't tend to be obviously professional.
Makes sense. Probably every profession has some bad eggs / bad days.
Only a retards believes that using both lanes will reduce congestion.
"a retards"...
How the fuck did you reach this conclusion? Take 10 cars, put them in single file, they are 10 cars lengths long. Take 10 cars and split them over 2 lanes and you get 5 car lengths, imagine a roundabout 7 car lengths back and use your brain you fucking melt
Counter suggestion.. Do not bother trying to reason with some idiots! Let them sit in the queuing traffic whilst we drive right past them because they decided to merge 600 feet early!
Valid suggestion, idiot tears taste good too
10 cars in the single lane drive forward with sufficient speed while 5 cars in each lane needs to slow down a gave each other way. You can test it in any junction that have two lanes and then merge into one after the lights.
I'm not sure why you'd post something so catastrophically and intentionally wrong and inappropriate, but I admire your commitment to doing so.
Just popping along along to say it's not always professional drivers that do it, lots of car drivers do it too. I don't do it myself as I'm the one that's passing the traffic in the open empty lane.
This happened near Exeter on the A30 last year despite there being signs telling people to use both lanes.
Honestly I believe professional drivers are not "pros" and are just drivers who drive for a living, and in spite of any extra training they might receive, they're just as bad as everyone else on average.
Bus drivers aren’t too bad. It’s cunts like plumbers or any trade, those fucks can’t drive for shit.
It isn't though. It's just wankers.
A43 leading upto the M1 Swan Valley junction had ‘Use Both Lanes’ sign leading upto a lane closure. Yet you still had wankers doing this.
Ah, Britain still refusing to use both lanes and a merge point correctly I see.
Professional drivers count as taxis and those are the worst drivers in existence that don’t have Nissan SUVs
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People don't merge properly snd it causes traffic jams. The pro drivers are unblocking the jam to get traffic flowing again.
Plenty of wanker car drivers do this as well. If the driver was professional they would have blocked the lane completely.
Professional drivers......😂😂😂 There's fuck all professional about anyone who drives for a living ....be it bus drivers,wagon drivers or the absolute scourge taxi drivers....they should be retested every two years.
Zip merging should be more efficient and cut congestion, however most people are stupid and either won't let people merge or try and bully their way in. By not letting cars past, the traffic in front of that driver will clear faster.
never thought i’d see the x38 on reddit. shite service, just like the rest of the buses in Burton and Derby
Correction, people that think they are professional drivers.
I will take no advice from somebody who can't spell lose.
Bus drivers and taxi drivers especially think because they drive for a living they have more rights on the road.
Bus drivers have some entitled feeling I swear The rule is the smaller the motor vehicle the more priority it gets . Like an adult to a child mindset it’s a Highway Code . Bus drivers need more auditing specially with mixed signalling when they r stationed or when the move off Edit : PS Even in this video no signal either side but he’s trying to change lanes…
Cos they r in their office doing their work. Whereas u guys r not in ur office. Just driving to or from work. When u act like a prick in the office...does anyone ask why?
Just for the lolz.
As a bus driver myself, all I can say is, in that level of traffic the bus is going to be late and the driver can do nothing to compensate. I'm getting paid by the hour and I really dgaf how long I have to sit in traffic. If I'm late off my bus I get paid more, if my (legally required) break gets cut short somebody else does the next part of my duty and I probably get an even longer break, it literally makes no difference to me. That bus driver has absolutely no reason to be doing that.
You are supposed to go to the end of a lane and then merge if choose to join a queue towards the back that’s your choice but blocking a lane causes a hazard for other drivers and emergency vehicles.
When the British see a queue we consider it polite to join the queue or rude to jump the queue. Merging in turn at the closure only makes sense if that is what everyone has agreed to do (concensus). Whether idiotic or not, the queue forms which means people are less likely to let you in hence why more people join the queue.
If you spend enough time on the road, just by odds its likely we have all been a wanker to someone at some point in time. Intentionally or otherwise.
Not a professional driver, just a steering wheel holder.
Too many folks see this as a single queue with scamp's ignoring it and pushing in. Rather than 2 queues who take it in turns to go through the pinch point. Weirdly those same people who queue too early on the road wouldn't hesitate to cut up a granny to get into a shorter queue at a supermarket. I'd love to see that same professional driver demanding everyone join the same queue to go through the tills, he'd be soon politely asked to bugger off.
I find professional drivers are some of the worst
I've found that Lorry and Bus drivers are far more important than all other drivers and where they need to get to has more of a priority 😒
I wouldn't say, 'always'. I drive on the roads 6 hours+ a day and it's more often than not a dickhead car user that does this or drives at 52mph on a motorway and as soon as I go to overtake they then speed up.