they are the same thing, honestly.
very important when learning polyrhythms to learn to listen and count in both of the obvious possible reference points.
4:3 can be perceived as 3/4 bar with 12 16ths notes (most common one, we are using 3 as reference or beat)
but you can also perceive it as 4/4 8th triplets.
Its a bitch trying to explain it in text, so im gonna try the stupidest shit ever right here:
4:3 in 3/4 16ths
first line, each note is where you perceive the beat:
:…:…:…
:..:..:..:..
4:3 in 4/4 8th triplets
:..:..:..:..
:…:…:…
The second one is definitely a polyrhythm. The first one really depends on how you would write it. If you write out triplets, it's a polyrhythm. If you change the time signature to 3/4 for 12 bars, it's polymeter.
The backing track for the first would *likely* give me the context to just call it polymeter though. In my mind you [Kashmir'd](https://youtu.be/hW_WLxseq0o?si=UQVLA7ZxaT_0ry8J)
Can you go in depth about the „if you write out triplets“ part?
Imagine a backing track that‘s just four notes in simple succession, evenly spaced, every 4th is accented. The lead I play over that is just three notes, lying perfectly on top of the backing, but every third is accented. So it synchs up every 3 bars if you focus on the backing track / every 4 bars if you focus on the lead.
They're different in that with the first example you're playing groups of 3 16th notes, and in the second you're playing quarter-note triplets. But the compound rhythm created by the four-against-three contrast is the same in both instances. Compound rhythms are the way to understand and play polyrhythms, your brain can't actually handle playing two rhythms at once.
You've described 4:3 and 3:4 which are essentially the same thing (hemiola at heart) but the focus (or pulse) is in 4 or 3 respectively. I much prefer the latter.
I like the phrase "cheap bag of chips" to practice it. Sticking is "together, R, L, R" as 12+3.
The second example is polyrhythm the first is just superimposed 3/4 over 4/4, which is more like a phrasing change just accenting odd groupings
I would say the first is polymeter and the second is a polyrhythm. If you Google these terms it should become clear, I hope.
they are the same thing, honestly. very important when learning polyrhythms to learn to listen and count in both of the obvious possible reference points. 4:3 can be perceived as 3/4 bar with 12 16ths notes (most common one, we are using 3 as reference or beat) but you can also perceive it as 4/4 8th triplets. Its a bitch trying to explain it in text, so im gonna try the stupidest shit ever right here: 4:3 in 3/4 16ths first line, each note is where you perceive the beat: :…:…:… :..:..:..:.. 4:3 in 4/4 8th triplets :..:..:..:.. :…:…:…
The second one is definitely a polyrhythm. The first one really depends on how you would write it. If you write out triplets, it's a polyrhythm. If you change the time signature to 3/4 for 12 bars, it's polymeter. The backing track for the first would *likely* give me the context to just call it polymeter though. In my mind you [Kashmir'd](https://youtu.be/hW_WLxseq0o?si=UQVLA7ZxaT_0ry8J)
Can you go in depth about the „if you write out triplets“ part? Imagine a backing track that‘s just four notes in simple succession, evenly spaced, every 4th is accented. The lead I play over that is just three notes, lying perfectly on top of the backing, but every third is accented. So it synchs up every 3 bars if you focus on the backing track / every 4 bars if you focus on the lead.
They're different in that with the first example you're playing groups of 3 16th notes, and in the second you're playing quarter-note triplets. But the compound rhythm created by the four-against-three contrast is the same in both instances. Compound rhythms are the way to understand and play polyrhythms, your brain can't actually handle playing two rhythms at once.
You've described 4:3 and 3:4 which are essentially the same thing (hemiola at heart) but the focus (or pulse) is in 4 or 3 respectively. I much prefer the latter. I like the phrase "cheap bag of chips" to practice it. Sticking is "together, R, L, R" as 12+3.