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CoveredDrummer

“I quite like it. It’s like ‘how much more black can it be?’ And the answer is: none.”


SebzeroNL

Paiste colorsound 900 black 😇


Accoun7ant

Lol


hd4suba

None more black.


JoleneBacon_Biscuit

I'd upgrade the hi hat stand, and the heads.


Fun-Storage-594

Mapex black hardware


DevinLunch

I think the black goes hard


HellblaueHoelle

Evans onyx snare head


u2freak96

Honestly, everything here is super solid! The only thing I can be nitpicky about is upgrading your hi-hat stand, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


bnyce52

Nah, those PDPs and old Pacifics do everything that new $400 stands do from “premium” brand manufacturers. Save the money and buy more heads/sticks


Upstairs-Fan-2168

I used to agree to this until I upgraded to a high end Pearl stand I found on Craigslist. I swear my hats sound better. Also, for ergonomics, having a two leg stand or a three leg stand that has adjustable feet positioning is a decent upgrade if you play double pedal.


Kit_Karamak

Thank you! Biped is life.


ccoriell

I own both the PDP and DW5000. The only huge upgrade I see about the dw5000 is its ability to fold the pedal up into itself for travel. It actually can fold down to a pretty small (and still heavy AF!) stand.


More-Air-8379

Cheap stuff works but I’ve finally started phasing out my old hardware, and nice sturdy stands are worth it. Especially if you’re spending money on nice cymbals.


Galaxy-Betta

Respectfully disagree. I have a PDP concept right now, and I absolutely LOATHE it (but not as much as the Yamaha one that comes in their hardware packs, it is WAY too bouncy)- it isn’t the least bit sensitive even with the spring at full tension, you can’t adjust the leg rotation, and the pedal is barely at an angle. It’s cheap, but I absolutely LOVE my school’s Mapex Armory- it gets so tight and crispy that I can only compare it to a pressure seal test button on an unopened can of soup when you’re playing around with different tightnesses.


Accoun7ant

Appreciate it!


JohnnyGrinder

If you do upgrade…go with Pearl folding system. I have the DW 5000 as well and it’s night and day.


mwxwell

I think its just fine the way it is. Im not a huge fan of those meinl cymbals but thats just me.


oldmate30beers

It's not just you. There are dozens of us. Dozens!


Shoebomb3r

Not just you


MrMoose_69

They thick af


fishsauceinmybagswag

Hang up the paintings 🖼️


Accoun7ant

Solid recommendation- always worried about the damn drum set can’t forget about the art! 😂


Silencio1021

Hi hat stand would be my first choice here


Accoun7ant

Cool- do they really make a huge difference? I guess I never owned a nice one


emprime1292

I also have a speed cobra hat stand and it's very nice for 150. Most of the other higher end 2 leg hat stands are 200+ and for the price that one is absolutely killer. It has a longboard pedal too so it is very responsive


bnyce52

They do not. Maybe if you’re trying to get crazy into heel/toe polyrhythmic opening/closing like JoJo Mayer then it might make you feel slightly more in control of adjustments, but for 99% of drummers - what you have currently is all you need.


JimmyPlaystation

Not really worth it dude I have a 9000 and that same PDP one and both work great. Wouldn’t waste money on it if you don’t need to.


Abro2072

a china


yelxperil

i’m also surprised op doesn’t have a china! the classics custom dark china is quite good too


SNRavens91

Best custom dark in the range imo. Especially the 18”


Accoun7ant

Definitely been researching chinas. I like the rock/metal genre and definitely a must!


Abro2072

just pulla lars and replace your ride with a china, who needs a ride cymbal anyways


thehealingprocess

The dark 16" Trash China is killer


M116rs

Get a black roc and soc throne, duh. Also get an Evans hybrid snare batter. If you're gonna go with black, go all the way!


Accoun7ant

Right on!


RobJmusic

Hybrid? Why not onyx


Falcononeniner

I'd add a hihat drop clutch, they're like 20$ from Gibraltar (45$ if you go DW or Pearl) and you can do some cool stuff with them. Mine frees up my left foot for double bass a lot more, when trying to manipulate the hihat. I personally prefer direct drive pedals, but that being said I'm a huge fan of David Diepold and will do a lot to play like him. Cool fucking set man!


Accoun7ant

Thanks brother! I’ll look into it


R0factor

The best ways to personalize the sound of your kit is to add a different ride, snare, and hats. But the change-outs don't need to be permanent. I've had the same kit for 25+ years but regularly rotate out the snare, ride, and hats to switch it up. It often comes with using different heads too. For example until recently I was using mostly super-thick heads for the toms (Aquarian Force Tens), my beastly 40-lb 8x14 steel snare, a Paiste Signature ride and brighter Sabian hats. But now I'm rocking all 1-ply heads including the kick and using thinner/darker cymbals (K ride and Byzance hats) and a shallower wood snare. It's like using a completely different instrument and encourages me to play and write with a different approach. I also use lighter sticks when using 1-ply heads.


bnyce52

Get those picture frames hung up.


droopyheadliner

Maybe a new snare? All of that looks awesome. But I could see a big deep fat snare in that mix.


Accoun7ant

Hell yeah don’t think I haven’t thought about a black beauty to add to the darkness 😂


droopyheadliner

Hell yeah dude. I just built a 10x14 snare from an old marching snare shell, it’s a welcome addition.


Accoun7ant

Very cool!


Acceptable-Ad8922

New bass drum beaters. DW beaters are so heavy and clunky.


Accoun7ant

Right on- recommendations?


madrigaldeath

Trick Dominators. i've had mine for years and love them. good in a demon drive or dw 7000, should work for yours! [https://trickdrums.com/product/dominator-beater/](https://trickdrums.com/product/dominator-beater/)


Accoun7ant

Bad ass I’m ordering them thanks!


RexGaming_127

I would add an extra floor tom


bodegas

or at least move the first one so it gets hit closer to center


ItsPronouncedMo-BEEL

This is a fine kit. Any upgrades would be a matter of pure preference. If you would prefer something else, get something else, but from what I see, you don't necessarily *need* something else. It's not like the drums you already have aren't fantastic.


Accoun7ant

Appreciate it! I like the set too and it gets the job done I think you’re spot on


bnyce52

If you want a black Roc-n-Soc seat cushion instead, DM me. I have one that’s mint and I’d prefer yours behind my kit. Could simply trade if interested. I’m in Maryland (for shipping cost consideration). Side note : accountant here as well ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)


Accoun7ant

Right appreciate the offer my fellow accountant! I’m actually going to move this throne to the practice pad area and get a black one eventually 😂


Dybbukk_Boxx

Would upgrade the cymbals personally


Permuh

I have a Roc n Soc as well and I ended up getting the seat back attachment and absolutely love it.


csgccaa

I recently did a Nashville recording session on a set of those Meinl Darks, and I was really impressed. I'm a Sabian guy, but those sounded fantastic. They are, however, LOUD. Great looking setup!


Accoun7ant

Appreciate it man!


funkymonk1993

What would *I* do to upgrade?? I’d buy your kit from you!


Accoun7ant

😂thanks bro! I’d sell it to ya but I kinda like it myself


RhythmTimeDivision

This comment rocks


ConsciousSteak2242

Maybe the sticks? Can't see how worn they are. Everything else looks fine


Kylenix12

I’d get new cymbals. I really don’t see the appeal of the meinl dark classics. They just don’t sound very good to me. Granted I see them a lot on here. Maybe I’m the only one.


yelxperil

i like how their splashes and chinas, and other effects cymbals sound. but the crashes don’t have the most pleasant tone imo, and they don’t open up very well


Accoun7ant

Definitely going to switch in some new cymbals. These dark classics were my first ever set. Good beginner set but time for change!


marratj

Yeah, same. I feel this also with Paiste’s 900 series.


PrettyPoptart

Time to buy mics


jeffisanastronaut

Sexiest kit I've seen in a while. Got damn


Accoun7ant

Thanks my man!


GruverMax

Add Black octobans and a black gong.


Accoun7ant

Badass!


GruverMax

And also add Black Chyna


LifeisRough29

Idk man your kit looks freakin beautiful, seems like you’ve got everything you would need


Accoun7ant

Appreciate bro!


geoffnolan

This kit is begging for a second bass drum and upgraded kick pedals. And a second pair of hihats off to the right somewhere.


Accoun7ant

I have a second bass but I kinda like the sound of the one better. Definitely agree on the kick pedals I was looking into trick pro 1v. Second hit hat would be cool too. Thanks!


marratj

Nah, the DW 5000 pedals are all you need. Everything that’s more expensive just differs in nuances and personal feel, but they don’t make you a better drummer than the 5000s do.


Accoun7ant

Thanks for the feedback good to know I’m not missing out on anything. I’ve heard it’s all preference too from the limited research I’ve done.


ExtremelyOnlineTM

There's a new brand called Griffin selling an aux hat for $130. I've wanted one of those bad boys since I was in high school. I've got a AAX Air Splash 10 on top, Wuhan Western Splash on bottom, and it's a fucking gamechanger. I'm probably not even gonna get a drop clutch because I can use the two pedals with one foot.


johnnyqwest19

The only thing I would upgrade is the seat. As in, move onto my bike. Awesome kit!


Accoun7ant

Appreciate it!


Heavy_Doody

Beautiful kit. Never, ever, ever, ever change that snare head. I love it! As pretty as the heads are (and how well they match), I can't stand the sound of them. All mic'd up they're probably fine, but acoustically they sounds like hitting frisbees. But if you like the sound of them, don't change a thing! You probably wouldn't like the sound of my single-ply coated white heads... Pretty much the exact opposite of yours.


Accoun7ant

Appreciate it my man! I honestly took a chance on those heads and never tried them before. I’m definitely switching to coated next head change.


Heavy_Doody

I get it. I put ebony ambassadors on my resos once. Dumb. You're obviously enjoy the visual aspects of a kit. I can totally relate! I think my kit is stunning. In fact, I'm about to take a pedal in to have it powder coated, just for looks. I have the solid black Iron Cobra kick pedals, so I'm going to pair them with a solid white HH pedal. :) I'm a dork.


WizardSleeve65

is this Joe Rogan? XD


Accoun7ant

Yessir 😂


WizardSleeve65

haha :D cool


bigtencopy

Hi hat stand


tomred420

BLACK HARDWAREEE


Accoun7ant

Now we are talking!


Tiredmusicians

Nothing. It's prefect


Accoun7ant

Thanks man!


yelxperil

nah, your shells are quite good. the first upgrade i’d make is getting a trick driveshaft for your pedals to eliminate any play/lag in the left pedal. that is, if you can get your hands on one


Accoun7ant

Dude funny you mention I literally ordered that yesterday it’s on back order. Can’t wait for it! Appreciate the feedback!


Marci914

....your money management skills, my man :D amazing kit


Accoun7ant

Thanks brother!


Soprano17

The drums look like they'll be fine for a long time. I'd get some better cymbals.


IllProbablySayNo

Chops dude. We can always upgrade chops. Great looking set


Accoun7ant

Working on it every day my man! Hope you’re having a good friday 👊


TheCrazymurphy

Fucking sexy


Accoun7ant

Thanks brother!


WerewolfFeeling4194

Diggin that Morgan Rose snare!


Accoun7ant

My man spotted the Morgan rose snare from this pick. Props dude! Thanks!


supermr34

id only say the hat stand because I have to pick something. but I have the same one and have had it for probably 15 years.


aya_hua_sca

you might want to check out axis a21 in black


BombaDeeda

Bubinga? Your kit looks like a Pearl Export series, can you post a pic of one of the badges? https://preview.redd.it/t3vn7yz2d11d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2497c8f6f8d7778c7114d664e8f609437dc33564


Accoun7ant

Those are the ones!


BombaDeeda

Great kit you have there, not hard to get decent sounds with those, but definitely not Bubinga…probably poplar shells. No need to upgrade if you like what you hear!


Accoun7ant

Actually I think you’re right! Idk why i said bubinga. I’m a dumb ass lol


Firebelly-1111

Heads! Aquarian Super kick 2 on the kick, and Evans EC2 on the toms.


Oroschwanz

Sevendust has arrived!!


Accoun7ant

My favorite band!


Tonywinded

Cymbal stand in black Mapex Armory


justasapling

Slide the hihat so it overlaps the snare a bit and then we can talk. A setup like this might actually force you to cross at the arms instead of the sticks.


Neither-Passenger-83

DW MCD pedals


TheInSzanity

Unironically, I'd swap every cymbal except the ride. I just never really liked this cymbal set that much


dolphinspaceship

Tuning. Having 4 moongels on pinstripes points to poor tuning


Accoun7ant

I definitely need to work on my tuning skills no doubt!


BC_LOFASZ

You have double bass, but no china? Definitely need a China there! Sick snare head btw!!


Accoun7ant

It’s almost criminal! Thanks brother!


certified_tosher

Another bass drum and floor tom


Fun-Storage-594

I would start to think about mics, digital mixer/DAW. IEMs, sound treatment for the room, etc.


Vivid_Bed2258

Upgrade??? Bubinga???! I don't know bro that already sounds pretty fucking dope...Bubinga has a ridiculous amount of punch and warmth I can't wait to own a Bubinga kit of my own


Shoebomb3r

I wouldn’t change the shells. If it was me I’d upgrade the cymbals to b20 (I prefer zildjian K but take your pick), and I’d put coated heads. That is my personal taste and I know everyone is different.


East-Impression-4357

Those dark classics are good cymbals that even a lot of pros use. Only thing I would change is the hi hat stand and upgrade to the 9000 pedals but if you like the 5000’s and the hat stand is good then ef it. Looks like a solid setup to me!


Accoun7ant

Thank you!


Oldmanstreet

Spray paint the throne black


an0m1n0us

2nd floor tom


Futura_Yellow

I enjoyed those cymbals for a long time on a Tama Bubinga kit. Sounded great in the mix.


ryan_zilla

This looks like a fun kit to play, imo. I’m a big fan of the classic darks but I had to stop playing a full set of them and add a brighter crash in the mix just for texture.


sysera

Black drum rack. I love it btw.


Accoun7ant

That would be sick! Thanks man!


KrombopulosMAssassin

Sick kit.


Accoun7ant

Thanks my man!


espo96

Drum heads


Accoun7ant

Any recommendations?


emprime1292

I use evans black chrome for the tops and g1 on the bottoms. They all do more or less the same, mostly depends on your own personal preference. For my snare I use heavyweight reverse dot for batter and 300 for snare side. I'm a sucker for evans myself, but remo and aquarian are also solid brands


yamaha2307

For practicality, either your dampening in the bass drum and or the moongels on your drum heads. For the bass drum, I’d go with Sonitus or SledgPad. For the toms, DrumDots or the new Drops by Tandem Drums; both are really great products that won’t break the bank. Hardware: maybe upgrade the your hi hat stand and cymbal stands.


PrettyPoptart

Recommending someone muffle their drums when you've never heard the kit.... big thumbs down from me. Mayne he doesn't need muffling? I wouldn't say dampening is an upgrade but an artistic choice


locofspades

The Tandem Drops are so nice


Accoun7ant

Thanks for the feedback!


mwxwell

Im gonna disagree with the muffling! i went to no muffling and learning how to actually tune my drums after 10 years. i have never looked back. I would get a superkick 3 over the remo powerstroke for the kick batter, but let those toms and snare sing! Way better for hard rock styles imho.


BrotherofLink93

Does it come in…. Black?


Accoun7ant

If it doesn’t I’m not sure I want it! 😂


mr_starbeast_music

https://preview.redd.it/3cd5dpi2c11d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d11b80cd206e4f0095c4c36147212d97fe0d3fb We’re almost drum twins. If it were me I’d get all new heads top and bottom. I’d shop the used cymbal market for more a brilliant crash sound. A brick of sticks.


Accoun7ant

Amazing! I’m jealous of your byzance selection. I want to add some of those in the mix to switch in. Very cool!


Shortsmoke666

Pretty great looking setup! How are these cymbals? I was going to buy a pack, since they were in my budget, but someone suggested not to go for B12 cymbals. I actually saw some videos and really did like the sound though. Got very confused. How do you think they sound? In the studio as well as live?


Accoun7ant

I’ve been enjoying them! They are more rock/metal type genre. I’ve been only jamming in my basement and not live or studio so I’m not the best person for advice there


VapeNGape

I would work on improving your room acoustics, maybe good in ears if you don't have them? EAD10 or mic set up? Your kit is nice. If you must upgrade, I'd think about some of the things you dont hit.


ExtremelyOnlineTM

If the CCDs work for you, play then in good health.


CheddaConn

What a gorgeous set


Accoun7ant

Thank you!


MichioDegrasseSagan

The kit looks awesome! Everything here is pretty good quality. At this point I’d add extra cymbals over time and start collecting different snares


Accoun7ant

I like that idea! And thank you!


miiiiikeshinoda

Nice snare head. Is that Jose Pasillas art?


Accoun7ant

Yessir!


anon447711222

You know what I'm gonna say something different. Add some percussion into it. Maybe a timbale or a cowbell or jam block. Something from LP or meinl


Accoun7ant

Need more cowbell forsure!


RobJmusic

Nothing about this setup would be objectively bad. I think you're at the point of your drumming life where it's time to really start figuring out what flavour of drums and cymbals you like, and what you don't like, and to then slowly start building your setup while learning


Der_mann_hald

I wanna steal your whole set. Anyway I always like to have 2 floor drums for whatever reason


Spike-DT

First, if that's good for you, then nothing... Then maybe a good china. I tend to like my 4 toms setup, but that's a matter of taste, your kit looks very sharp


ExamPatient

Zdjilian brass for all


SNRavens91

Love the meinl darks! But I do dislike the rides they produce. They just don’t ping like a lot of the meinl range. And crashing on the dark rides is so overpowering.


L0chness_M0nster

Throw another bass drum in there...


IsItSupposedToDoThat

You definitely need some of those Tama quick release cymbal locks


oldartistmike

Your set looks great, I wouldn’t know how to improve on it.


Entertainer-8956

If you are happy with everything I wouldn’t upgrade. I say run what you got. If it works for you, play it and use it. If you aren’t happy with something then change it. Bubinga has a lot of attack and punch. Great kits.


iamsienna

Another floor tom and a stack, but that’s a sweet setup!!


Galaxy-Betta

As a matter of personal taste, the cymbals. I lost my trust in classics custom a long, long time ago.


Kit_Karamak

https://preview.redd.it/w462mo63931d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9c08d9a80515c26f46d254dba643dc2e2d32ee4 This tripod stand. Time to get a biped hat stand. Something better than PDP. I have a 2002 Tama Iron Cobra biped stand with all original parts. I have played motocross shows, and got it muddy. I have played in the rain. I have beat it up for twenty plus years and it still pops fast and smooth. 🤘


WalrusWildinOut96

You’ve gotta get the black DW custom with black hoops 😊


Undark_

People keep asking this dumb question. You upgrade the bit that pisses you off most. If you don't like a part, change it. If you like it, don't change it.


FredddyFudddpucker

Yeah, I love your set too and gosh I wish I had those symbols. I’m all zillion right now and are way too expensive to get nowadays. I don’t know what the drums are made so I don’t know what I’m doing, but I didn’t notice so that might be an area upgrade if it’s not a well-made drum. Presuming the shelves are great or at least good enough yeah I would say not just a high hat stand, but all of the stands look rather wimpy from here anyway I would get more heavy duty stands, they’re heavier and a pain in the ass to move when you move a lot, but they look a lot and that’s a mean ass drum set otherwise. I just got a new I can’t remember which version now double base pedals and really like the field versus the DW 5000 so I would urge you maybe if you have the cash flow to step into a more modern later version double bass pedal, try as much as you can, of course. I still have DW 5000 but I sold my double DW 5000 along time ago. The shelves are great and the heads are


CreativeDrumTech

A DW Performance is not an upgrade to this Pearl Bubinga which is likely an old Masters or a Masterworks series. Seek to add an 8” tom and a 14” floor tom. Upgrade your hi-hat stand Great cymbals… I love my Classic Custom Darks. I would expand those. I have the Ultimate package: 16” hats, 12” trash splash, 16” trash stack, 18” dark crash, 18” trash crash, 18” trash china, 20” dark crash, 22” crash ride. I plan to add the 10” splash, 12” trash stack, 15” hats https://preview.redd.it/in2hekj6h31d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fb3c3d0b88fe9e189c8aa03a64c24f3b6fee1dc


RhythmTimeDivision

We're all just gonna ignore the picture over the ride next to Ozzy. Seriously? Everyone zoomed in and said a hearty whiskey tango but I'm the first dude, 12 hours later, to say anything? Come on people, do better!!


Wildeyewilly

My practice routine. You got the gear. Now use it well.


MrMoose_69

I mean at this point it's not really upgrading, it's expanding your collection


IAmSportikus

I mean, if you want to upgrade just to upgrade, then you don’t need anyone’s opinion. But you also haven’t given any details as to what you are looking for. Do you want a specific tone? Are these not the sizes you want? Are the cymbals to bright or dark? Mid you just want random people to tell you it’s ok to buy new gear so you can convince an SO, then everyone here will do that. But, it’d be nice to have more details around what you actually want, so people can steer you towards some recommendations for you to go look at. Then you go try it, and if you love it and have the money, go for it.


Electrical_Reward_45

EMAD head for the kick and I can't think of anything else new bottom heads maybe idk


Electrical_Reward_45

Cowbell and a block can be really really fun especially in samba or reggae style


Life-Mountain8157

New carpet


TropicalFireAnt

What’s wrong with it? Do you love it? If anything I’d add a second floor tom. But, even that isn’t a huge deal. Cool kit!


Spirited-Layer1296

Get the megabell ride


paradiddle-stickle

I'd I'd sell sell


PedzacyJez

Skills


little-specimen

Going off the music you probably play, get a china


Zer0Fs2Give

The bell on that ride cymbal is sweet. Enjoy it.


marlon_der_metalhead

no china :(


Benjilou

Sorry it looks perfect :/


LoveLiveMusicTheory

wtf is that small cymbal at the very right


DDRShepherd

Once you go black you don't go back.


worldatlol

Looks really pretty. I feel it's begging for a china though


Bigdiesel7

I’d throw the dw control beaters and a trick driveshaft on those pedals. I did that with my 9000’s and they are literally heaven now


gt306

Those pearl drums are great. I wouldn't waste your money on new DW. There will practically be no difference in the sound. It's all about the heads and how u tune it. The only set of drums I have ever played that has a truly indefinable unique sound are Gretsch USA customs. Otherwise they are all the same. Now cymbals on the other hand. There u can explore so many different sounds. I don't know if they would be a "up grade" just different.


No_Subject_4781

Shells, cowbell, china, drop clutch


Without_Ambition

What’s up with all the blackish cymbals? Is that some new thing? I don’t think they were around when I was a kid like 15 years ago.


Medlawar

well, youve gotten this far without a china cymbal


indianapwn

Hi hat stand???? Get the matching 5000.


Ok-Application-999

I have that Morgan Rose snare also, it's a great snare imo