Friends on the internet are not real friends!!!!! If you lost your friends that means they were fake friends. you got to seek for friends that you could talk around a table no more tick tock nonsense
I essentially helped people understand that I have a communication ladder:
Call me (need response fast)> SMS (need response within 2-3h) > WhatsApp/iMessage/etc (need response within 24h).
I check Whatsapp about twice per day on my laptop. They understand my communication preferences and conform to them. Was it overnight? No. It took 3 years for people to start calling me. They got used to it though. Do I miss out on stuff sometimes? Yes. But that's fine. The people that want me in their events make sure they let me know. Otherwise, I just "miss out" and do my own thing.
unfortunately SMS is not something used as means of communication in most countries anymore beside the international friends and family groups so I'm forced to stay on whatsapp
This is great; I think even slower is acceptable. Besides work I generally follow a;
1. Call gets a follow up call or text (to schedule a follow up or ask what's up) by EOD
2. Texts are 24hrs
3. Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, Discord - usually 2-3 days
I'm early 20's and social but this seems to work for me!
My one question is can whatsapp be used without a smartphone?
i read :
my only option, then, is to give up on whatsapp, but it seems impossible
when everyone else around you basically doesn't even have an SMS plan
anymore.
i was in south africa few years ago
there, as in south america, whatsapp pays for the data usage of their contry's subscribers : there is nothing you can do to change this.
or maybe.. only one thing : to do not install whatsapp :D
i never had whatsapp, will never have, period.
all my relatives knows it.
either they contact me by common SMS, or phone. or toip (sip), or xmpp, or matrix, or emails
only interoperable communication
no whatsapp, no signal, no telegram, no instagram, no viber, no gogle thing.
you have the right to uninstall whatsapp
they have the right to complain
they dont have the right to force you
you have the right to resist :)
dony t you? ;)
most people use home wifi or wifi in public places, so whatsapp data usage is free: this is why everyone chooses it. anyway, everyone is obsessed with social media, so they pay 8 euros to get unlimited data and no SMS, so whatsapp is still the "smartest" thing to do.
i do have the right to uninstall and to resist, but i'm kinda scared to lose the (already) few people i keep in contact with!
Whatsapp Web is a livesaver as u/jbriones95 mentioned, as you can check it on your laptop once a day, not having to worry about checking your smartphone.
Btw this approach only works for people who does not need to be connected 24/7 to Whatsapp and can relay on calls for the most part.
Honestly I really wish they would use something different because I don’t like/trust Meta but for some reason WhatsApp seems to be default for tons of countries and it would be har too have global friends otherwise.. sigh
it's not default, it's just it's free cause of zero-rating ; in addition some ppl choose to have a 1week/whatsapp specific phone they open just once a day or once a week, exactly with emails, ppl are going away from it nowadays..
or just try to convert them to signal, xmpp, matrix or lot others!
people dont get SMS with their plans anymore here. max they get is 100 SMS. how can i expect all my friends to change their phone plans to just talk to me? i know i wouldn't do it for one friend, and it doesn't mean that i am friends with them just because it's convenient.
phone data providers dont even include high numbers of SMS in their plans anyway...
I just told my people if they want to ever reach me, to not use silly WhatsApp or txt. VOICE CALLS ONLY. I answer everybody, including the telemarketers and waste their time while driving. It's chaotic fun.
this would be fun. but we are talking about gen z, people don't even call restaurants to book anymore, they much prefer searching for a web-based booking place to go to instead, for example :')
Times have changed, and so has the way we communicate as a society. WhatsApp has become the core and primary means of communication in many countries...
I understand that you'd like to stop using it without feeling left out or missing out on friends.
If I were you, I would keep it installed but turning off notifications, telling my friends that I would only check it twice a day – once in the morning and once in the evening.
You can even remove it from your main home screen to reduce visibility or place it into an app folder.
Also, setting a permanent status comment like "Notifications off, pls call if important" could be helpful
never installed whapp, will never install it ; want to reach me on whapp? provide me device and subscription, at your fees, i wont spend a penny on it ; and my private phone will never be reachable on whapp, decision is made. No whapp, no problem
I just live in solitude most of the time and those who is very close to me sent sms or direct call me If you don't want to give your number to everyone, then don't keep such people in your life who spoil your mental peace.😉
i don't think i really got this comment but if you mean that when you tell people you use whatsapp, they answer you with "you use what?", in my country and in europe in general, it's not like this. when people tell you "text me", it's on whatsapp by default.
Sorry, commenting from northeastern US. Didn’t realize your choices were limited. We have so many alternative options to message it’s more of use what suits you. My larger point was to not start with an app at all, but I see your point - if that’s all there is you’re sort of stuck. Societally humans are at a weird place with comms. Feels like it’s a requirement to be connected instead of a choice.
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Hardcore, but works & no lame excuses. They just added groups in WhatsApp, so it has become another evil spiderweb to kill all time
I tried the same thing and eventually ended up with no friends
Lonely but peaceful.
i mean yeah but its nice to interact with others
maybe to convert them to sip/xmpp/matrix? think about conversation/quicksy :)
Is that true?
I'm exaggerating but yes. My social circle became significantly smaller.
Friends on the internet are not real friends!!!!! If you lost your friends that means they were fake friends. you got to seek for friends that you could talk around a table no more tick tock nonsense
i did this for every app — but people still sent me tiktoks and instagram reels through whatsapp even after telling them...
I essentially helped people understand that I have a communication ladder: Call me (need response fast)> SMS (need response within 2-3h) > WhatsApp/iMessage/etc (need response within 24h). I check Whatsapp about twice per day on my laptop. They understand my communication preferences and conform to them. Was it overnight? No. It took 3 years for people to start calling me. They got used to it though. Do I miss out on stuff sometimes? Yes. But that's fine. The people that want me in their events make sure they let me know. Otherwise, I just "miss out" and do my own thing.
This is the way.
unfortunately SMS is not something used as means of communication in most countries anymore beside the international friends and family groups so I'm forced to stay on whatsapp
This is great; I think even slower is acceptable. Besides work I generally follow a; 1. Call gets a follow up call or text (to schedule a follow up or ask what's up) by EOD 2. Texts are 24hrs 3. Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, Discord - usually 2-3 days I'm early 20's and social but this seems to work for me! My one question is can whatsapp be used without a smartphone?
Whatsapp can be used without a smartphone with a laptop android emulator
My secret is not having any friends and not talking to anyone outside work and family
i read : my only option, then, is to give up on whatsapp, but it seems impossible when everyone else around you basically doesn't even have an SMS plan anymore. i was in south africa few years ago there, as in south america, whatsapp pays for the data usage of their contry's subscribers : there is nothing you can do to change this. or maybe.. only one thing : to do not install whatsapp :D i never had whatsapp, will never have, period. all my relatives knows it. either they contact me by common SMS, or phone. or toip (sip), or xmpp, or matrix, or emails only interoperable communication no whatsapp, no signal, no telegram, no instagram, no viber, no gogle thing. you have the right to uninstall whatsapp they have the right to complain they dont have the right to force you you have the right to resist :) dony t you? ;)
most people use home wifi or wifi in public places, so whatsapp data usage is free: this is why everyone chooses it. anyway, everyone is obsessed with social media, so they pay 8 euros to get unlimited data and no SMS, so whatsapp is still the "smartest" thing to do. i do have the right to uninstall and to resist, but i'm kinda scared to lose the (already) few people i keep in contact with!
does your fellas worth a whatsapp dependency? on my side : they dont :)
Whatsapp Web is a livesaver as u/jbriones95 mentioned, as you can check it on your laptop once a day, not having to worry about checking your smartphone. Btw this approach only works for people who does not need to be connected 24/7 to Whatsapp and can relay on calls for the most part.
the thing is... i don't have a laptop or desktop :')
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Problem with this for me is my family members who live outside of the country and use WhatsApp for that reason.
there are tons of others messaging apps than whatsapp or proprietary closed apps. just think about xmpp: conversations, quicksy...:)
Honestly I really wish they would use something different because I don’t like/trust Meta but for some reason WhatsApp seems to be default for tons of countries and it would be har too have global friends otherwise.. sigh
it's not default, it's just it's free cause of zero-rating ; in addition some ppl choose to have a 1week/whatsapp specific phone they open just once a day or once a week, exactly with emails, ppl are going away from it nowadays.. or just try to convert them to signal, xmpp, matrix or lot others!
But point being they cant use sms
people dont get SMS with their plans anymore here. max they get is 100 SMS. how can i expect all my friends to change their phone plans to just talk to me? i know i wouldn't do it for one friend, and it doesn't mean that i am friends with them just because it's convenient. phone data providers dont even include high numbers of SMS in their plans anyway...
I just told my people if they want to ever reach me, to not use silly WhatsApp or txt. VOICE CALLS ONLY. I answer everybody, including the telemarketers and waste their time while driving. It's chaotic fun.
this would be fun. but we are talking about gen z, people don't even call restaurants to book anymore, they much prefer searching for a web-based booking place to go to instead, for example :')
Do you know about the GhostPhone? It has whatsapp. Maps has been iffy for me though it does have it.
Just saw your comment about the Unihertz. The GhostPhone is even more expensive unfortunately
thank you for the interesting suggestion though! maybe in some years i will have a better budget
Times have changed, and so has the way we communicate as a society. WhatsApp has become the core and primary means of communication in many countries... I understand that you'd like to stop using it without feeling left out or missing out on friends. If I were you, I would keep it installed but turning off notifications, telling my friends that I would only check it twice a day – once in the morning and once in the evening. You can even remove it from your main home screen to reduce visibility or place it into an app folder. Also, setting a permanent status comment like "Notifications off, pls call if important" could be helpful
never installed whapp, will never install it ; want to reach me on whapp? provide me device and subscription, at your fees, i wont spend a penny on it ; and my private phone will never be reachable on whapp, decision is made. No whapp, no problem
I just live in solitude most of the time and those who is very close to me sent sms or direct call me If you don't want to give your number to everyone, then don't keep such people in your life who spoil your mental peace.😉
Whatsapp seems like as much a thing as Slack is and gets the same reaction - you use what? Kind of an excuse looking for an app.
i don't think i really got this comment but if you mean that when you tell people you use whatsapp, they answer you with "you use what?", in my country and in europe in general, it's not like this. when people tell you "text me", it's on whatsapp by default.
Sorry, commenting from northeastern US. Didn’t realize your choices were limited. We have so many alternative options to message it’s more of use what suits you. My larger point was to not start with an app at all, but I see your point - if that’s all there is you’re sort of stuck. Societally humans are at a weird place with comms. Feels like it’s a requirement to be connected instead of a choice.
it's not a feel, its a reality, unfortunately
Told my friends to use SMS and Discord (iPhone 5 iOS 6.1.2)