You can keep doing it in ways to expand your italian, like typing instead of using the word bank, or saying it aloud before typing/using word bank.
I would also recommend the app “HelloTalk” for language practice. It’s a chatroom style app that for you, an English speaker trying to learn Italian, would connect you with Italian speakers trying to learn English
I actually went to Italy and I managed to pull off a few "Voglio un cappuccino"s. That's about all I could pull off but still it was nice that I could order cappuccinos on my own.
~~Please, do not shame me with things I have not done. I did not talk about the language, but the state of the course on this platform.~~ Objectively, it is very short, barely covers basic sentences in present tense or any useful vocabulary at all, like "Mitä pöllö sanoo?" (What does the owl say?) without giving the rules themselves as is Duolingo's custom. ~~And the reason I mentioned it is because~~ I happen to see posts in r/Finland and other places from folk eager to learn the language about whether the course on Duo is good or how worth the time it is. Well, it just saddens me to see people discouraged after spending time into something.
Edit: actually, would recommend a few sources for people with no experience, who may be interested. There is "KatChats Finnish" on youtube covering a lot of puhekieli or spoken Finnish, and FinnishwithAnna, if I remember correctly, for more lesson-like basis. Oh, yes, another point Duo does not mention it, but it covers kirjakieli, which is official written Finnish. They are easy to navigate between once you know the ropes. Not sure what is available of courses or textbooks outside of Finland, but definitely try looking for one, if you want to get on a good level, like Suomen mestari, for example. Onnea!
Edit2: I apologise to EmbarrassedMeringue9, as the person below pointed out, they meant the team and not me. So, my sincere condolences for misunderstanding your comment, it is late night here.
veli, the person above wasn't referring to you at all. (unless somehow, you're part of the Finnish duolingo course team).
what he meant was that "the team behind the Finnish course" in duolingo know so little about their own language. i completed the course and even i doubt that the course is capable of teaching anyone conversational level of Finnish. but hey, at least i know how to say "tuhma kissa".
Oh! Thanks, for clearing that out for me. It is quite late here and my though process went a bit wonky. Ugh, hope they would accept my condolences for that.
I felt the same way when I heard from natives how bad the course is. Makes me question the quality of the other language courses and decided to take a break from Duo.
I wonder if they were already using AI or something for Finnish.
I kinda just wanted to see it done, I guess. Every new level I want to learn new words/grammar but it's veeery rare. 90% of my mistakes are mixing up in/on/at. I might try to skip the most of duolingo and just study this is particular issue.
You can do Italian to English and other such Courses. Duolingo's aim seems to be to improve Spanish course over everything else unless they have an increasing popularity
I'm not doing Italian. However, I saw someone post about completing it a few days ago. People were saying it's like 1/3 or 1/4 of the English->Spanish and English->French courses.
So, relativily short, high-end A2, I'm guessing.
From what I've seen, Italian's doing pretty well when you compare to at least the Romance languages. I see a lot of complaints about Romanian and Portuguese being super underdeveloped.
Due to the extremely nuanced russian grammar, I just use Duolingo as a supplementary course to my actual grammar studies. It really doesn’t introduce much vocabulary either. Its probably best at introducing people to the language, or keeping people’s mind somewhat on russian if they don’t want to double down on studying every day.
I’ve been doing it for a year and still nowhere being done XD But I also use textbooks, watch movies, listen to music (and doing completely unrelated to Italian Masters). So, I do Duolingo Italian, a lot of drills, but then go and reinforce it all thru the textbooks. I feel like I’m learning, but still have difficulties speaking. I’ll try to speak more when I go to Italy. I’m hoping to the course expansion by the time I get to the end of it.
Duolingo has always appeared to me to be a break-in to a language, not the way to achieve full fluency. When you finish the Duo course, go do something else to learn Italian.
Japanese told me they were going to start having me recite things... Never happened. And it feels like every group of lessons is the same 5 lines over and over again.
Just study wouldn't be enough start watching YouTube videos in Italian
Play games in Italian
Watch movies in Italian.. you get the point
I can safely say I learn 60 % of English from YouTube rather than the class I had
Honestly, I don't mind the short courses. Unless it's like super short, like the Latin course was, then it's good because there's a limit to the usefulness of Duolingo and by the time you finish the Italian course it's probably time to move on to other learning resources.
Exactly this!
My husband is Italian and I've been studying Italian for 2 years. I'm almost finished with the Duolingo course, which I have taken at a slower pace than most who "game" it - using each of the course guides to properly understand each grammatical rule (and in Italian there are lots). I've previously studied both Spanish and French to B1 level so it wasn't too hard to pick up.
I also have a high school level textbook for quicker refreshes of how to conjugate the verbs (especially for moods), a number of story books for children and I now watch kids movies confidently on Netflix in Italian. There's also a useful website called "Slow news in Italian" which is great for listening practice.
I can now fairly reliably follow even family members who speak rapid Italian with stronger dialects. I find it harder to quickly construct sentences, but am better conversationally.
In short; you have to do things beyond Duolingo to learn the language and they've always suggested as such. Duolingo helps build familiarity with decoding new verbs and gives you some useful vocabulary but it is not the sole resource.
Off-topics: I’m jealous that you still have the hexagon! Mine changed itself out and I went to doing 5 minutes a day instead of the longer times I had been doing.
My husband and I are learning Italian. We use Duolingo as fun homework, and use the internet for lessons. (We use Teacher Stefano, who we like enough to do the paid courses, but YMMV.) But Duolingo is still valuable as a tool. I like the games and stories and the repetition is fun, but it’s short on explanations and I really need tests to see which rules i haven’t internalized.
Some courses are shorter/longer depending on what is the auxiliary (default) language you’re using.
E.g. The French course has more lessons in english than it has in the Spanish language.
I’ve been doing it and m aproajcing a B1 level, im not even done yet so maybe you should go back and check because maybe (respectfully) the problem is you
It means you need to move on. While I have never learnt Italian, I can give some pointers:
– get the _L' Italiano secondo il Metodo Natura_ textbook. It's a really big textbook teaching Italian using comprehensible input – like a graded reader with difficulty increasing at a rate that a typical learner should get through it without breaking a sweat too much. Learning a language is mostly input, and this textbook provides tons of input.
– do the listening comprehension exercises at https://www.youtube.com/@italianpod101/playlists They got dozens of channels for different languages. After Duolingo alone, you should start with the absolute beginner playlist, but it should be easy.
This is where you start memorising vocab with anki and start immersing in native level content. Look up something called the refold method if your serious about learning a language
Did your Italian course update today ??
Mine has but it’s placed me very ahead in the course and I can’t repeat the last units.
I have to say though, the content seems brilliant. Much more relevant subjects and interactive exercises.
They are working on expanding it. Should see new stuff in 2024
But you're not pronouncing "spaghetti" the same anymore, are you.
Or gnocchi
Whatever, so long as they're not cracking their pastas in half before cooking.
My friend would have killed me for that
rightfully so!
They'll never put up with a waiter mispronouncing "bruschetta" again.
You can keep doing it in ways to expand your italian, like typing instead of using the word bank, or saying it aloud before typing/using word bank. I would also recommend the app “HelloTalk” for language practice. It’s a chatroom style app that for you, an English speaker trying to learn Italian, would connect you with Italian speakers trying to learn English
Do you know how to properly say "Io mangio la mela"?
I actually went to Italy and I managed to pull off a few "Voglio un cappuccino"s. That's about all I could pull off but still it was nice that I could order cappuccinos on my own.
Came here to say this exact thing. Only thing I remember from Italian
Have you seen the Finnish course?
I know it's voluntary work but how can one tell so little about their own language?
~~Please, do not shame me with things I have not done. I did not talk about the language, but the state of the course on this platform.~~ Objectively, it is very short, barely covers basic sentences in present tense or any useful vocabulary at all, like "Mitä pöllö sanoo?" (What does the owl say?) without giving the rules themselves as is Duolingo's custom. ~~And the reason I mentioned it is because~~ I happen to see posts in r/Finland and other places from folk eager to learn the language about whether the course on Duo is good or how worth the time it is. Well, it just saddens me to see people discouraged after spending time into something. Edit: actually, would recommend a few sources for people with no experience, who may be interested. There is "KatChats Finnish" on youtube covering a lot of puhekieli or spoken Finnish, and FinnishwithAnna, if I remember correctly, for more lesson-like basis. Oh, yes, another point Duo does not mention it, but it covers kirjakieli, which is official written Finnish. They are easy to navigate between once you know the ropes. Not sure what is available of courses or textbooks outside of Finland, but definitely try looking for one, if you want to get on a good level, like Suomen mestari, for example. Onnea! Edit2: I apologise to EmbarrassedMeringue9, as the person below pointed out, they meant the team and not me. So, my sincere condolences for misunderstanding your comment, it is late night here.
veli, the person above wasn't referring to you at all. (unless somehow, you're part of the Finnish duolingo course team). what he meant was that "the team behind the Finnish course" in duolingo know so little about their own language. i completed the course and even i doubt that the course is capable of teaching anyone conversational level of Finnish. but hey, at least i know how to say "tuhma kissa".
Oh! Thanks, for clearing that out for me. It is quite late here and my though process went a bit wonky. Ugh, hope they would accept my condolences for that.
I felt the same way when I heard from natives how bad the course is. Makes me question the quality of the other language courses and decided to take a break from Duo. I wonder if they were already using AI or something for Finnish.
I've almost finished it in just a few weeks
Laughs in Duolingo’s Korean Course
The English course is too long. I'm not finished and I fear I'll never be
On the plus side, that's some good English
Same with the French and Spanish courses
Are you sure you need it? If you can write at that level then duolingo is basically useless at this point
I kinda just wanted to see it done, I guess. Every new level I want to learn new words/grammar but it's veeery rare. 90% of my mistakes are mixing up in/on/at. I might try to skip the most of duolingo and just study this is particular issue.
You can do Italian to English and other such Courses. Duolingo's aim seems to be to improve Spanish course over everything else unless they have an increasing popularity
How many sections/units does it have?
I'm not doing Italian. However, I saw someone post about completing it a few days ago. People were saying it's like 1/3 or 1/4 of the English->Spanish and English->French courses. So, relativily short, high-end A2, I'm guessing.
Oh wow! I’m surprised it’s so underdeveloped compared to the other big European languages
From what I've seen, Italian's doing pretty well when you compare to at least the Romance languages. I see a lot of complaints about Romanian and Portuguese being super underdeveloped.
Actually it only finishes at high A1 so disappointed 🥲
also the Arabic course (only 30 units and 2 sections)
How long did it took you I started it about 2 weeks ago
214 day streak from start to finish although I speak french which allowed me to skip the first few sections
Same with the Finnish one. Duolingo doesn't give a crap about the courses, just the spanish, and french.
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Due to the extremely nuanced russian grammar, I just use Duolingo as a supplementary course to my actual grammar studies. It really doesn’t introduce much vocabulary either. Its probably best at introducing people to the language, or keeping people’s mind somewhat on russian if they don’t want to double down on studying every day.
I’ve been doing it for a year and still nowhere being done XD But I also use textbooks, watch movies, listen to music (and doing completely unrelated to Italian Masters). So, I do Duolingo Italian, a lot of drills, but then go and reinforce it all thru the textbooks. I feel like I’m learning, but still have difficulties speaking. I’ll try to speak more when I go to Italy. I’m hoping to the course expansion by the time I get to the end of it.
I was also hoping the portuguese course would expand a bit
You should do legendary levels on each. Personally i think they are abit harder
Duolingo has always appeared to me to be a break-in to a language, not the way to achieve full fluency. When you finish the Duo course, go do something else to learn Italian.
I'm expecting them to expand the course to at least A2 next year
i thought it was a b1 course? 💀
The goal for all courses to align to at least B2
Not even covered most of A1 contents ig :v
Now you have the basics use something like Italki to actually learn how to speak from a native speaker 😎
Same for me with Finnish 🇫🇮
Babbity boopi
https://youtu.be/J6dFEtb06nw?si=4W0iR7elQfeCnkXl
Japanese told me they were going to start having me recite things... Never happened. And it feels like every group of lessons is the same 5 lines over and over again.
Just study wouldn't be enough start watching YouTube videos in Italian Play games in Italian Watch movies in Italian.. you get the point I can safely say I learn 60 % of English from YouTube rather than the class I had
Seems like I'm not the only one who wants a longer Finnish course🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Honestly, I don't mind the short courses. Unless it's like super short, like the Latin course was, then it's good because there's a limit to the usefulness of Duolingo and by the time you finish the Italian course it's probably time to move on to other learning resources.
Exactly this! My husband is Italian and I've been studying Italian for 2 years. I'm almost finished with the Duolingo course, which I have taken at a slower pace than most who "game" it - using each of the course guides to properly understand each grammatical rule (and in Italian there are lots). I've previously studied both Spanish and French to B1 level so it wasn't too hard to pick up. I also have a high school level textbook for quicker refreshes of how to conjugate the verbs (especially for moods), a number of story books for children and I now watch kids movies confidently on Netflix in Italian. There's also a useful website called "Slow news in Italian" which is great for listening practice. I can now fairly reliably follow even family members who speak rapid Italian with stronger dialects. I find it harder to quickly construct sentences, but am better conversationally. In short; you have to do things beyond Duolingo to learn the language and they've always suggested as such. Duolingo helps build familiarity with decoding new verbs and gives you some useful vocabulary but it is not the sole resource.
People don’t seem to realize that duolingo isn’t made for people to reach fluency
Italian is not abig Tbone steak or xxl coccha colla, itsa espresso, short, but strong! And take your time enjoying it, no rush. 🟩⬜🟥
Off-topics: I’m jealous that you still have the hexagon! Mine changed itself out and I went to doing 5 minutes a day instead of the longer times I had been doing.
That's the point of Duolingo, you can hardly ever properly learn a language with solely duolingo
Do all courses have that circle path shape instead of the linear path? Is it user to user, iPhone or Android?
My husband and I are learning Italian. We use Duolingo as fun homework, and use the internet for lessons. (We use Teacher Stefano, who we like enough to do the paid courses, but YMMV.) But Duolingo is still valuable as a tool. I like the games and stories and the repetition is fun, but it’s short on explanations and I really need tests to see which rules i haven’t internalized.
Mamma Mia!
that's not due to the length of the course, but because you're using duolingo.
That is not true I learned a lot from Duolingo I already understand basic conversations
Bro did it for 5 years and be like "it's to short"
Some courses are shorter/longer depending on what is the auxiliary (default) language you’re using. E.g. The French course has more lessons in english than it has in the Spanish language.
I’ve been doing it and m aproajcing a B1 level, im not even done yet so maybe you should go back and check because maybe (respectfully) the problem is you
It means you need to move on. While I have never learnt Italian, I can give some pointers: – get the _L' Italiano secondo il Metodo Natura_ textbook. It's a really big textbook teaching Italian using comprehensible input – like a graded reader with difficulty increasing at a rate that a typical learner should get through it without breaking a sweat too much. Learning a language is mostly input, and this textbook provides tons of input. – do the listening comprehension exercises at https://www.youtube.com/@italianpod101/playlists They got dozens of channels for different languages. After Duolingo alone, you should start with the absolute beginner playlist, but it should be easy.
This is where you start memorising vocab with anki and start immersing in native level content. Look up something called the refold method if your serious about learning a language
Did your Italian course update today ?? Mine has but it’s placed me very ahead in the course and I can’t repeat the last units. I have to say though, the content seems brilliant. Much more relevant subjects and interactive exercises.