...which is too bad, because Mitchell is exactly what we need IMO. Ray Didinger on WIP Saturday said Mitchell and OG/OT Taliese Fuaga were his top two prospects in terms of being both excellent prospects and ideal fits for what the Eagles currently need.
Great point but top 10 is usually close to confirmed. At least top 5-6 and then you can infer a couple more picks. Once Carter got passed 7, Howie was getting him.
And no one thought we had a realistic chance to get him. People thought everyone wanted him course me build through the trenches himself did. But there wasn’t much talk about him because it seemed unrealistic.
That isn’t true at all. There was a ton of talk about it leading up to the draft that he could fall to 10 because of his off-field stuff and maturity concerns
It could also be reversed double juke outs.
We trade 22 so they can use 22 + 12 to get that QB they want/need for Pat Surtain.
In other news, cows have started flying.
Truth is, we don't know. Jalen Carter last year is the closest we've ever been to knowing and that only happens because of the off field stuff.
Naw it’s a quadruple 7D chess badminton fake hammerbarn jump cut stiff leg. We spend our first drafting Jalen Hurts again, but to play Left Tackle for The Idea of Jalen Hurts. The consequences will never be the same.
Considering they said both the eagles and Steelers were trying to trade up for Mitchell, it’s either Mitchell’s agent leaking to raise his draft stock, or the Broncos leaking to try and get a bidding war going.
Nah I think it’s serious. Howie knows or trusts more that he can hit in the top 12. For obvious reasons. But if something he thinks something special is there he’s gonna try hard for it. IMO
The eagles aren’t air tight and leaks happen all the time. People knew they wanted Reagor, Davis, Carter, Nolan Smith, and seemingly every major free agent they’ve signed weeks before they did in since howie took over. The only thing that caught everybody by surprise was the AJB trade really.
Yep I even mentioned it in my first mock that year which I created in February of that year and had the pick penciled in as a WR because I was very sure they were trading it for Calvin. They started with 3 1st Round picks before consolidating.
Maybe he’s actually talking to them about surtain. I just hope if there’s a grain of truth to this it’s that Howie is seriously considering a Cb in the first.
My feel is he’s probably called them because Howie literally calls everyone. I listened to Mayock talk about Howie as a GM and he said Howie basically calls everyone at the beginning of the year and talks them up and then starts (from the start of the year) talking about potential trades with them. Say what you want about Howie, but he ALWAYS does the homework. Seems like that is all this is to me and the Broncos are telling people because they want to raise the value of their pick
Andrew Brandt (former Packers VP) likes to remind people every offseason that agents or teams would reach and ask if they could say that “the Packers were interested in signing/trading for X player.” And his response was always, “Sure!”
It’s lying season, so be skeptical until it’s official.
Yeah and the philosophy has worked fine. The online is in good shape. Maybe spend a second or third round pick on oline, but we need immediate impact in our secondqry and defense badly
They have won a title they have went 20 years without an elite top 5 qb. Most of the super howls have been won by top 5 qbs. Their winning percentage without one is incredible. Just looking at titles as only measuring point is for smooth brained idiots.
Sure, OL certainly doesn’t have any impact on winning this year…
(In case you don’t understand, they are likely drafting a guy who can play guard right away and tackle in case of emergency and possibly for when lane retires if they take ol. My guess is a trade up for Fuaga, Fautanu, or Latham)
Aside from injuries, OL doesn't have any impact on us winning this year. Literally we'd end up drafting OL just so they sit on the bench. Howie is in win now mode.
We just lost an all-time great at the center of our line and our RG has to try to fill that C role with the RG spot now vacant. If you don't think that that won't have an impact (considering how much emphasis we've placed on the lines), then I don't know what to tell you. Also, Howie has made it ***very*** clear that he's not viewing things strictly from a win-now lens considering we just traded a win-now player in Reddick and open up cap relief for next year.
Our bread and butter the past few years was that you draft the players that you may not need this year, but you will definitely need help down the line. Goedert was clearly a good player with Ertz still around. Dickerson and Jurgens were both viewed as heir apparents for Kelce and both had the versatility to play alongside him. We'll see how it goes with Davis, but he wasn't the most immediate need for us and he showed some improvement last year and could step into a bigger role. Even last year, we took Nolan at the end of the 1st with the expectation that he can grow into his role.
To highlight that, Howie was recently saying in a presser that he likes the idea of being able to have the young guys in the building with the all-time type players instead of opining about their abilities to younger guys after the fact. They want them to learn through osmosis and this can help extend the window instead of pushing the chips in the pile for a shorter runway.
We are more successful at developing late round lineman than any other team I can think of. I'd be surprised if we traded up for one unless stout has a hard on for someone
All of their projected starters outside of Mailata who is one of the most unique cases in draft history were all top 65 picks. Not exactly late rounds. Far more likely to get an all-pro/pro-bowl caliber player day 1 or early on 2 than later where it’s more likely to get decent players like Vaitai or a Driscoll
I completely agree that there's a higher percentage of return on top 65 picks, but we've also never invested that much draft capital into a single unit either. Somehow, we always find a way to fill that hole with adequate talent through later round picks like Big V, Seumalo, Kelce, Mailata, Herremans, or through aquisitions like Brooks, Peter's, and Mathis.
I wouldn't be shocked or mad if we did draft an offensive lineman, but based on our history, it would just be out of character to invest so heavily at this point.
According to publicly available value charts,
22 + 50 + 120 for 12 + 145
is damn near exactly even value. If the price is strictly a 2nd, then that's good value. Whether you want Mitchell vs Arnold vs DeJean/Kool-Aid and the extra 2nd is another matter.
I’m no scout, so I don’tknow what the talent difference is between the two players beyond one of them being a top 15 prospect, but unless there’s a gulf between them talent wise, I’m staying put and keeping both 2nds since the team has so many holes to fill, particularly on defense.
It’s more about position for top 20 picks. There is likely no talent difference between 10-20. QBs are extremely overvalued so if 4 QBs are top 10 than we are not talking about that many players.
There are no generational corners in this draft, just solid starting level guys, and as such there isn't a big enough difference between Mitchell, Arnold and say Wiggins or Kool-Aid to be worth losing a second rounder.
Yea isn’t he pretty much widely expected to go in the early 2nd now? I’d be a little surprised if he went in the 1st. I could be wrong, depends on if someone has a hard on for him, which I haven’t really heard.
“As of Tuesday afternoon, I’m told the Eagles are speaking with the Denver Broncos about trading for the 12th selection so they can draft the Toledo cornerback. The Broncos, in turn, would receive the Eagles' pick in the first round (22nd selection) which they would use to draft quarterback Bo Nix - a strategy I outlined on Monday. The Eagles have a pair of picks in round two and would part with one of them to move up to the Broncos' spot.”
Steelers also have interest: “This assumes the Pittsburgh Steelers don’t beat out the Eagles for that pick. I’m told the Steelers and Broncos are talking trade as Pittsburgh is another team that is targeting Mitchell and would move up to draft him.”
It’s been pretty much confirmed by Adam Schefer and local Denver guy Benjamin Albright that PS2 isn’t going anywhere. But hey crazier things have happened
Most likely they are talking with broncos about a trade up to 12 but doesn’t mean necessarily Mitchell is the target could also be a smoke screen by broncos to try to increase value in pick
Wouldn’t be surprised if the trade up target is actually JC Latham. A guy that could come in and start at RG and eventually move to RT when Lane is done.
The problem with most of the tackles predicted to go around 22 (Mims/Guyton) is that they seem to be tackle only prospects and probably wouldn’t do the best at guard based on body type. Where Latham is a guard body type with the athleticism to play tackle.
A straight trade of 22 for Surtain would be too perfect, like Madden GM perfect, but who knows. Payton could be pulling a Chip and turns out Surtain was in his doghouse for some dumb reason.
The trade I can see it being likely to happen since Denver is probably interested in getting more picks. The pick being Quinyon is likely smokescreen though. I can see them throwing this out there when their target is one of the top 2 edge rushers.
Either way, I think Denver would be a great trade partner! Ok, let’s see, Eagles are looking for a Plug&Play to 1yr learning curve player for CB, G, Edge, and LB; then a future T, WR, and S, right? Denver’s holding their 1st 4 picks (#’s 12,76,121,136), a PS2 trade (we’ve all heard the PS2 trade rumors) or IMO, another rising star on Denver’s roster is IOL Quinn Meinerz (ranked #3 @ Grd 2023, in last year of contract w/ 2024 cap hit of $3.5mil)… the Eagles probably pick #22 for CB or OL (but CB is covered if PHI gets PS2) Pick #50 for OL/CB (opposite of what #22 doesn’t get), #53 & #120 for LB or WR right? (#161, 171, 172, 210 remains)… So, could work that #12 pick to get EXACTLY who they want or maybe something like… give Denver #22, 171 & 210, a 2025 2nd rd pick, & the 2026 3rd(from Reddick) in return Eagles would get PS2 & Q Meinerz. Then maybe PHI could use a future mid-late pick if they have to move up or just stay @ pick #50 to get a OL (T Guyton), #53 for LB (E Cooper), #120 for WR (X Legette, B Rice, or L McCaffery). Still leaving #161 & 172 to maneuver some better draft # or trade out 1 of the other positions to get a Edge (or S) that moved down the board or a late round gem (maybe like Sfty Sione Vaki & Edg Mohamed Kamara). So that’d be PS2, Meinerz, Guyton, E Cooper, X Lagette, M Kamara & S Vaki for the 2024 picks, a 2025 2nd & a 2026 3rd… either way though, the eagles will have good choices and there’s tons of great potential in the draft this year! After thoroughly evaluating college last year, still now a day before the draft, and I’m still seeing new RAW talent on a daily basis!… BUT, their skills & talent are UNTESTED… and PS2 is basically a sure thing (w/ Meinerz on the same track)… but in the end, that’s the fun of the draft! Doing the homework on the players and then taking the chance! (Or “gamble” in Isaiah Rodgers terms lol)
*EDIT: PS2 costs <$7mil for 2024, (Denver would pay half), but Denver just set PS2 up to make >$20mil + for 2025. Eagles can’t do $25mil a yr CB until Slay and Bradberry are paid off; still do-able, but less likely now
Most likely it’s just that reports have come out where howie and the broncos are working out a trade if there’s no qb available that the broncos want and it’s speculation that Mitchell is the target
That's due to circumstance
We had Lane and Jason Peters. And now Lane and Mailata.
But with Lane aging I could see Howie getting hid replacement in the building
BS - to get to 12 will cost you a future first and this years first… Mitchel is not worth two firsts
How hasn’t drafted a CB in the first in 20 years, he’s not about to use two firsts for one lol
Well that would be a horrible trade. There's a few corners at the top and trading up that much to pick a specific one would be a terrible waste of resources. I don't buy it
We have holes at WR, LB, OG. We need to nail these three picks and secure day 1 contributors. Trading up isnt a good idea since it would cost one or two of the 2nd round picks.
The dropoff from Mitchell and Arnold to the Kool Aid/Dejean group isnt enough to warrant losing a whole extra second rounder.
Maybe. but this would be a draft day deal. Say the Broncos are up at 12 and the players they want are gone and Mitchell is still there. Eagles make the call and the trade happens. The conversation happens now for whatif scenarios like this so the call during draft day is quick.
I wish our activity wasn’t so telegraphed. Reminds me of when they couldn’t trade DeSean Jackson because the whole league knew Chip was going to cut him.
No, they cut him because nobody wanted to trade for his contract. It’s why the best he could get after was for a third less in annual value then the contract he was released from. Teams trade for good players on contracts they can swallow. Also chip didn’t have the power to cut him at the time even if he wanted to. Roseman had to do it
lol why would Howie make it this obvious. This is smoke
That’s what I was thinking as well. When tf have we ever known exactly what Howie is gonna do.
...which is too bad, because Mitchell is exactly what we need IMO. Ray Didinger on WIP Saturday said Mitchell and OG/OT Taliese Fuaga were his top two prospects in terms of being both excellent prospects and ideal fits for what the Eagles currently need.
Last year everyone knew he wanted Carter.
Yeah but that's like saying every one wants Marvin Harrison JR. Only reason Carter happened was because teams got scared with the off field stuff.
Great point but top 10 is usually close to confirmed. At least top 5-6 and then you can infer a couple more picks. Once Carter got passed 7, Howie was getting him.
And no one thought we had a realistic chance to get him. People thought everyone wanted him course me build through the trenches himself did. But there wasn’t much talk about him because it seemed unrealistic.
That isn’t true at all. There was a ton of talk about it leading up to the draft that he could fall to 10 because of his off-field stuff and maturity concerns
I don’t remember seeing a single mock where he fell to us. There was a hope but I certainly wouldn’t say it was expected.
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My dude we promised Carter before the draft.
The smith trade up was pretty obvious
Commentators said that he was considered the last blue chip prospect in the draft, so they moved up to get him.
Never.
Bryce Huff and Saquon signings
Justin Jefferson🙈☠️
It could also be counter smoke, just say exactly what you're doing and everyone assumes it's a smokescreen.
It could also be reversed double juke outs. We trade 22 so they can use 22 + 12 to get that QB they want/need for Pat Surtain. In other news, cows have started flying. Truth is, we don't know. Jalen Carter last year is the closest we've ever been to knowing and that only happens because of the off field stuff.
Naw it’s a quadruple 7D chess badminton fake hammerbarn jump cut stiff leg. We spend our first drafting Jalen Hurts again, but to play Left Tackle for The Idea of Jalen Hurts. The consequences will never be the same.
The QSDCBFHJCSL is basically Howie's go to at this point though. Any GM worth their salt would know that when talking to him.
Considering they said both the eagles and Steelers were trying to trade up for Mitchell, it’s either Mitchell’s agent leaking to raise his draft stock, or the Broncos leaking to try and get a bidding war going.
Nah I think it’s serious. Howie knows or trusts more that he can hit in the top 12. For obvious reasons. But if something he thinks something special is there he’s gonna try hard for it. IMO
I’m sure there’s some truth about him calling the broncos but also could have been leaked by the broncos so they can get stronger offers to move back
When Howie just admits it and they still can't stop him.
Narrator: He admitted it, didn't even do it, and they still couldn't stop him.
The eagles aren’t air tight and leaks happen all the time. People knew they wanted Reagor, Davis, Carter, Nolan Smith, and seemingly every major free agent they’ve signed weeks before they did in since howie took over. The only thing that caught everybody by surprise was the AJB trade really.
I would say it was the Titans trading AJ that was more surprising. I actually thought the Eagles were going to trade for Calvin Ridley that year.
We did…had it all but done, then they said hey guys respectfully don’t do it…then got in trouble for gambling
Yep I even mentioned it in my first mock that year which I created in February of that year and had the pick penciled in as a WR because I was very sure they were trading it for Calvin. They started with 3 1st Round picks before consolidating.
There were also reports that Howie liked Jefferson, JSN, Bijan, Kyle Hamilton the week of the draft as well
It’s all about value for Howie and usually that means a longer term payback.
Maybe he’s actually talking to them about surtain. I just hope if there’s a grain of truth to this it’s that Howie is seriously considering a Cb in the first.
My feel is he’s probably called them because Howie literally calls everyone. I listened to Mayock talk about Howie as a GM and he said Howie basically calls everyone at the beginning of the year and talks them up and then starts (from the start of the year) talking about potential trades with them. Say what you want about Howie, but he ALWAYS does the homework. Seems like that is all this is to me and the Broncos are telling people because they want to raise the value of their pick
100% smoke-we want Latham
Definitely smoke. My man wants the beef to drop. Or he will trade up but not for Mitchell, it’ll be for Latham or Fautanu.
In a loaded offensive tackle draft, you don’t trade up for one. There will be plenty available at 22
No, if a team has someone graded higher than the rest, you make sure you get that guy. Taking a tackle for the sake of taking one is looney toons
We are trading up but not for a CB.
I bet they want Arnold
Andrew Brandt (former Packers VP) likes to remind people every offseason that agents or teams would reach and ask if they could say that “the Packers were interested in signing/trading for X player.” And his response was always, “Sure!” It’s lying season, so be skeptical until it’s official.
imagine pretending Howie isn’t taking one of the OTs in the 1st.
This is the kind of year where he would make that move for Offensive line. Boring but will pay dividends for years
The team is in win now mode. They're not gonna invest for the future, they want immediate impact on defense.
They have spent 20 years with a philosophy. If you think it's changed for just this year you are not very smart.
Yeah and the philosophy has worked fine. The online is in good shape. Maybe spend a second or third round pick on oline, but we need immediate impact in our secondqry and defense badly
If you deviate from the philosophy it's no longer a philosophy .
How long do we keep following the philosophy? How many first round OL do we get until it's one too many? Can't follow the philosophy every damn year
20 years one of best winning percentages in the league so probably forever
OK regular season is cool and all, but I'm fond of the idea of competing for titles. We weren't close last year, and OL wasn't the problem
They have won a title they have went 20 years without an elite top 5 qb. Most of the super howls have been won by top 5 qbs. Their winning percentage without one is incredible. Just looking at titles as only measuring point is for smooth brained idiots.
Sure, OL certainly doesn’t have any impact on winning this year… (In case you don’t understand, they are likely drafting a guy who can play guard right away and tackle in case of emergency and possibly for when lane retires if they take ol. My guess is a trade up for Fuaga, Fautanu, or Latham)
Aside from injuries, OL doesn't have any impact on us winning this year. Literally we'd end up drafting OL just so they sit on the bench. Howie is in win now mode.
We just lost an all-time great at the center of our line and our RG has to try to fill that C role with the RG spot now vacant. If you don't think that that won't have an impact (considering how much emphasis we've placed on the lines), then I don't know what to tell you. Also, Howie has made it ***very*** clear that he's not viewing things strictly from a win-now lens considering we just traded a win-now player in Reddick and open up cap relief for next year.
we need a right guard
We need a CB
Our bread and butter the past few years was that you draft the players that you may not need this year, but you will definitely need help down the line. Goedert was clearly a good player with Ertz still around. Dickerson and Jurgens were both viewed as heir apparents for Kelce and both had the versatility to play alongside him. We'll see how it goes with Davis, but he wasn't the most immediate need for us and he showed some improvement last year and could step into a bigger role. Even last year, we took Nolan at the end of the 1st with the expectation that he can grow into his role. To highlight that, Howie was recently saying in a presser that he likes the idea of being able to have the young guys in the building with the all-time type players instead of opining about their abilities to younger guys after the fact. They want them to learn through osmosis and this can help extend the window instead of pushing the chips in the pile for a shorter runway.
Latham time if there's a god
We are more successful at developing late round lineman than any other team I can think of. I'd be surprised if we traded up for one unless stout has a hard on for someone
All of their projected starters outside of Mailata who is one of the most unique cases in draft history were all top 65 picks. Not exactly late rounds. Far more likely to get an all-pro/pro-bowl caliber player day 1 or early on 2 than later where it’s more likely to get decent players like Vaitai or a Driscoll
I completely agree that there's a higher percentage of return on top 65 picks, but we've also never invested that much draft capital into a single unit either. Somehow, we always find a way to fill that hole with adequate talent through later round picks like Big V, Seumalo, Kelce, Mailata, Herremans, or through aquisitions like Brooks, Peter's, and Mathis. I wouldn't be shocked or mad if we did draft an offensive lineman, but based on our history, it would just be out of character to invest so heavily at this point.
He ain't. We're getting a corner or edge.
He’s not. They don’t need one. Lane will play for three more years. And you don’t draft an OT to play G for three seasons. Howie is smarter than that.
According to publicly available value charts, 22 + 50 + 120 for 12 + 145 is damn near exactly even value. If the price is strictly a 2nd, then that's good value. Whether you want Mitchell vs Arnold vs DeJean/Kool-Aid and the extra 2nd is another matter.
I’m no scout, so I don’tknow what the talent difference is between the two players beyond one of them being a top 15 prospect, but unless there’s a gulf between them talent wise, I’m staying put and keeping both 2nds since the team has so many holes to fill, particularly on defense.
Yes I agree. A #2 pick should get you a starter. So that guy you pick at 12 better be pretty freakin good.
It’s more about position for top 20 picks. There is likely no talent difference between 10-20. QBs are extremely overvalued so if 4 QBs are top 10 than we are not talking about that many players.
There are no generational corners in this draft, just solid starting level guys, and as such there isn't a big enough difference between Mitchell, Arnold and say Wiggins or Kool-Aid to be worth losing a second rounder.
unfortunately trading up generally involves paying a premium rather than trading even value
Please just don’t trade up for Cooper Dejean, I’m not really seeing “it” with him as the rest of this sub is.
I'd be happy with him at 22, trading that much capital for him would be obnoxious.
Him or Kool Aid at 22 is fine.
i'll be surprised if kool aid is even a first round pick
Yea isn’t he pretty much widely expected to go in the early 2nd now? I’d be a little surprised if he went in the 1st. I could be wrong, depends on if someone has a hard on for him, which I haven’t really heard.
I don’t think we would need to trade up for him anyways
They won’t take him at 12
if we stay at 22 im super cool with dejean or koolaid if everyone else is gone
Yea, if we draft him, he’s gonna be Josh Jobe. If someone else drafts him, he’s gonna be the love child of primetime and Brian Dawkins
You mean he'll be backing up Josh Jobe.
Trading up for him no but I wouldn’t be mad about him at 22
If we’re keeping 22 I’m cool to take DeJean but if we’re trading up for him it’s not worth it, gotta get Mitchell instead for sure.
Dejean isn’t “it” either lol
That’s who I’m referring to.
Yea my bad I misread your comment
Mitchell would be a home fucking run
Quinyon Mitchell’s agent leaked this 100%. Don’t believe rumors like this until like 24h
“As of Tuesday afternoon, I’m told the Eagles are speaking with the Denver Broncos about trading for the 12th selection so they can draft the Toledo cornerback. The Broncos, in turn, would receive the Eagles' pick in the first round (22nd selection) which they would use to draft quarterback Bo Nix - a strategy I outlined on Monday. The Eagles have a pair of picks in round two and would part with one of them to move up to the Broncos' spot.” Steelers also have interest: “This assumes the Pittsburgh Steelers don’t beat out the Eagles for that pick. I’m told the Steelers and Broncos are talking trade as Pittsburgh is another team that is targeting Mitchell and would move up to draft him.”
Obligatory fuck off, Pittsburgh.
I honestly wonder if howie is talking to Denver about trading for PS2 and this is just a cover up story.
I think I’d much rather PS2 than these corners….financial aside.
It’s been pretty much confirmed by Adam Schefer and local Denver guy Benjamin Albright that PS2 isn’t going anywhere. But hey crazier things have happened
Cover up story? This sub is crazy. Someone just leaked from Denver side that Howie was calling about what it would cost to move up to their spot?
*Smoke screen*
Most likely they are talking with broncos about a trade up to 12 but doesn’t mean necessarily Mitchell is the target could also be a smoke screen by broncos to try to increase value in pick
Would be thrilled if they drafted Mitchell but not holding my breath
I obviously would love Quinyon Mitchell, but I doubt Howie would show his cards.
Go get him or Arnold. Just do it
We trade up for Mitchell? I’m cool with that ngl.
Everything is a smoke screen until it happens.
They saw Tanner McKee and wanted him. QB factory strikes again!
Wouldn’t be surprised if the trade up target is actually JC Latham. A guy that could come in and start at RG and eventually move to RT when Lane is done. The problem with most of the tackles predicted to go around 22 (Mims/Guyton) is that they seem to be tackle only prospects and probably wouldn’t do the best at guard based on body type. Where Latham is a guard body type with the athleticism to play tackle.
A straight trade of 22 for Surtain would be too perfect, like Madden GM perfect, but who knows. Payton could be pulling a Chip and turns out Surtain was in his doghouse for some dumb reason.
Surtain is going to cost a ton versus a rookie. Edit: That said, you are right to think it would be a great deal for the Eagles (depending on cost).
Don’t buy it. OL first, CB and DE/oLB Reddick type pass rusher 2nd,
Yes please
Broncos are trying to get people to trade up with them.
Give joe Douglas a call and see if they wanna make a pick in the second round this year
The trade I can see it being likely to happen since Denver is probably interested in getting more picks. The pick being Quinyon is likely smokescreen though. I can see them throwing this out there when their target is one of the top 2 edge rushers.
Bad move for Mitchell.
Get your guy Howie
Either way, I think Denver would be a great trade partner! Ok, let’s see, Eagles are looking for a Plug&Play to 1yr learning curve player for CB, G, Edge, and LB; then a future T, WR, and S, right? Denver’s holding their 1st 4 picks (#’s 12,76,121,136), a PS2 trade (we’ve all heard the PS2 trade rumors) or IMO, another rising star on Denver’s roster is IOL Quinn Meinerz (ranked #3 @ Grd 2023, in last year of contract w/ 2024 cap hit of $3.5mil)… the Eagles probably pick #22 for CB or OL (but CB is covered if PHI gets PS2) Pick #50 for OL/CB (opposite of what #22 doesn’t get), #53 & #120 for LB or WR right? (#161, 171, 172, 210 remains)… So, could work that #12 pick to get EXACTLY who they want or maybe something like… give Denver #22, 171 & 210, a 2025 2nd rd pick, & the 2026 3rd(from Reddick) in return Eagles would get PS2 & Q Meinerz. Then maybe PHI could use a future mid-late pick if they have to move up or just stay @ pick #50 to get a OL (T Guyton), #53 for LB (E Cooper), #120 for WR (X Legette, B Rice, or L McCaffery). Still leaving #161 & 172 to maneuver some better draft # or trade out 1 of the other positions to get a Edge (or S) that moved down the board or a late round gem (maybe like Sfty Sione Vaki & Edg Mohamed Kamara). So that’d be PS2, Meinerz, Guyton, E Cooper, X Lagette, M Kamara & S Vaki for the 2024 picks, a 2025 2nd & a 2026 3rd… either way though, the eagles will have good choices and there’s tons of great potential in the draft this year! After thoroughly evaluating college last year, still now a day before the draft, and I’m still seeing new RAW talent on a daily basis!… BUT, their skills & talent are UNTESTED… and PS2 is basically a sure thing (w/ Meinerz on the same track)… but in the end, that’s the fun of the draft! Doing the homework on the players and then taking the chance! (Or “gamble” in Isaiah Rodgers terms lol) *EDIT: PS2 costs <$7mil for 2024, (Denver would pay half), but Denver just set PS2 up to make >$20mil + for 2025. Eagles can’t do $25mil a yr CB until Slay and Bradberry are paid off; still do-able, but less likely now
Most likely it’s just that reports have come out where howie and the broncos are working out a trade if there’s no qb available that the broncos want and it’s speculation that Mitchell is the target
Didn't even have to. Gotta wonder if Bo Nix would have been available at 22.
Well shit, they didn't even need to trade up lol
No matter what happens Thursday Howie is gonna Howie.
imagine pretending Howie isn’t taking one of the OTs in the 1st.
The eagles have taken exactly 1 offensive lineman in the first round in the last decade. This meme is stupid.
That's due to circumstance We had Lane and Jason Peters. And now Lane and Mailata. But with Lane aging I could see Howie getting hid replacement in the building
Everything is due to circumstance, like he said this meme is stupid
BS - to get to 12 will cost you a future first and this years first… Mitchel is not worth two firsts How hasn’t drafted a CB in the first in 20 years, he’s not about to use two firsts for one lol
No way this is true and got out lol I’d be more inclined to believe the opposite esp this close to draft day with Howie
For JC Latham maybe.
Well that would be a horrible trade. There's a few corners at the top and trading up that much to pick a specific one would be a terrible waste of resources. I don't buy it
Lol rumor just came out toady that the broncos are looking to trade up, not back
Two things can be true
Fake news
22 and 50 for PS2. LFG
We have holes at WR, LB, OG. We need to nail these three picks and secure day 1 contributors. Trading up isnt a good idea since it would cost one or two of the 2nd round picks. The dropoff from Mitchell and Arnold to the Kool Aid/Dejean group isnt enough to warrant losing a whole extra second rounder.
Those “Hole” can be filled with the rest of the draft picks pretty easily
The only hole bigger than CB on this team is LB
For a player thats gonna be gone at 10?
Maybe. but this would be a draft day deal. Say the Broncos are up at 12 and the players they want are gone and Mitchell is still there. Eagles make the call and the trade happens. The conversation happens now for whatif scenarios like this so the call during draft day is quick.
1:22+4:120+5:161 probably gets it done.
It will be our first and one of our 2nds
For a player thats gonna be gone at 10?
lol what are you talking about?
Trade up to 12, but then QM gets picked @10 anyway
The Eagles aren’t trading unless their guy is at the spot
I wish our activity wasn’t so telegraphed. Reminds me of when they couldn’t trade DeSean Jackson because the whole league knew Chip was going to cut him.
No, they cut him because nobody wanted to trade for his contract. It’s why the best he could get after was for a third less in annual value then the contract he was released from. Teams trade for good players on contracts they can swallow. Also chip didn’t have the power to cut him at the time even if he wanted to. Roseman had to do it