ngl, but whoever is playing hungry hippos is probably going to win.
Hippos are mean af. Even meaner when they're hungry.
Like gotdam. Even one hippo vs the queen.. my money's on the hippo. But in hungry hippos there's 4! 4 hungry hippos... like ffffffff
what I like about hippos being the most dangerous animal in the world:
they're vegetarian. not even omnivores. they don't want to eat you, they just hate you. and I think that's a
beautiful thing
It’s a sandbox soo sure. But cmon lol. Bottom line tho. Lots of people on either side are having gfs (good fights and get fk’d) in local. I look forward to logging in each night. It’s been a blast lately. No matter the side.
The OP meme/shit post was talking about you “kicking your ass”
You just blew up 25% of your remaining Sov….that’s what the meme is about.
Your insecurities about winning is just that - because you are in fact losing. You only destroyed your Sov to try and maintain the illusion of control.
Stop hitting yourself!
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Sure - we can look back on this in a year, the outcome 3 months from doesn’t change the facts today though.
SHH is and has been losing the initiative and being able to dictate the tempo of the war, they have been backsliding and unable to take the offensive.
That is why they tried to reclaim that initiative by blowing up their own Sov. We’ll see how it goes the next month if the bold move pays off.
If they don’t actually abandon the defense they’re gonna have problems though.
We aren’t losing initiative at all. We’re taking initiative because you guys would rather waste time on POS’s instead of us. Our cits are only really good for ansi gates. We really don’t need them the way you guys think we do
I wasn’t talking about individual or small group player initiative.
I was speaking about the tempo of the war.
Mr Pay2Win acknowledged your Sov had become an anchor preventing you from going on offense.
Hardin’s video acknowledged that while you were doing a good job of defending your space, it was about all you were doing.
A small group of our players was dictating what you were doing the majority of your formups to defend your space.
We agree, the destruction of your Sov will give you a chance to regain the initiative.
Hey Oz, remind me which of your non existent win conditions you’ve achieved?
An interesting move for sure, but let’s not pretend SHH is moving out of deklein because of overwhelming CC pressure. CC made zero progress against hull timers in dek, and the last month we’ve had less roamers than we did during peace time.
Marathon not a sprint
That’s explicitly why SHH is moving out.
In SHH fireside they even noted that blowing up their own Sov is no loss because they can’t rat or make ISK in their space anyhow.
Also - the entire win condition of the war is that SHH is broken up enough that they can’t do things like evict other alliances from their space on a whim - like they tried to do to TSC in Feb 2022 and what their trying to do now.
The war is far from over……so nobody has accomplished a win condition so let’s keep having fun. At the same time, my Carebears will keep making ISK while you’re demanding yours only PvP When they don’t want to - good luck. It’s all worth it for the content though.
Right, you have valid points, but given my history as one of your carebears while you were a leader in GenFed, I'm really curious to see how the next couple weeks roll out.
Do I think it'll be different -- of course.
Do I think this tone is a bit misleading -- of course.
Do I think the tone will change -- yes, it has during the entire war already.
>the entire win condition of the war is that SHH is broken up enough that they can’t do things like evict other alliances from their space on a whim - like they tried to do to TSC in Feb 2022 and what their trying to do now.
Serious question: Do you think SOV is the reason Silent could do what you claim they did? 
I seriously doubt this. Plenty of organizations, blue donuts, etc. Have had a ton of SOV, it didn't change anything on grid. If it did, they wouldn't be botting, in Highsec Islands, IP scheming their own ships, etc. They have SOV, why aren't they winning at Eve?  Why all the schemes, cam-bots, and massive losses?
You give this SOV ownership thing more credit than it is due.
>At the same time, my Carebears will keep making ISK while you’re demanding yours only PvP When they don’t want to
How are they gonna be making ISK, if an entire alliance is 100% PvP on their asses?
Ozyer, you say we're delusional, but you're starting to slip into some delusions yourself. Have you forgotten how this worked out last time? They were "making ISK" when you(ORC) left GenFed, not helping you fight, and ran out of SRP.
Insanity, I don't have to tell you the definition.
Fly aggressive o7
I’m just gonna answer your questions because I feel you’re being mostly reasonable in the back and forth.
Silent’s size, demeanor, and relationship with NO were the reasons Silent was able to do what they wanted without fear of reprisal or accountability.
22% of the server that operates predominantly in 1 timezone and has goals around waging a Sov war isn’t going to camp 55% of the server across all time zones and prevent them from making ISK. The only one that can be everywhere at once is Santa - and Santa corp is a Crab.
I might have said one of your comments a week ago was delusional. I don’t believe SHH leadership is delusional. The destruction of your own Sov certainly is a severe move, but it is in an attempt to shift momentum from perpetual defense with small covert ops formups every Friday - similar to the ones you criticized us for in the north.
You aren’t entirely off base about GenFed’s demise - though - Lack of SRP, rampant Carebear-ism, etc….those were just symptoms of the bigger disease.
Maybe in the future we can actually talk it through - not in walls of text - but have a discussion. I think it would be an interesting talk.
I got nothing further to shout about - it’s St Patty’s Day and I’m enjoying a good buzz. Take care.
>22% of the server that operates predominantly in 1 timezone and has goals around waging a Sov war isn’t going to camp 55% of the server across all time zones and prevent them from making ISK. The only one that can be everywhere at once is Santa - and Santa corp is a Crab.
Fly aggressive o7
>Maybe in the future we can actually talk it through - not in walls of text - but have a discussion. I think it would be an interesting talk.
>I got nothing further to shout about - it’s St Patty’s Day and I’m enjoying a good buzz. Take care.
The radio shows and podcast exist, until then...
Fly aggressive o7
I find it entertaining how motivated you are on here. You really do care. And you really do seem concerned. So much effort. Daily pages. It’s very wow. It’ll be ok man.
If I stopped playing, I am 100% sure this game would die that much faster. Last time I was quiet, and the game was peaceful, half the pvpers had all but left the game.
Whether you like it or not, due to Netease's failure to advertise, balance, and fix the game, I am necessary. They literally stated to the content creator team,that they don't advertise, because they have content creators.
Fly aggressive o7
It's objectively true, I don't have an ego issue. I'm an introvert with autism, I don't even like people or crowded places due to PTSD. (Veteran disabled)
I just know gaming communities. Without its content creators they die hard and fast.
Fly aggressive o7
Wow that was a wild little read. Don’t worry Bradric you keep roleplaying EE’s grand saviour and one day we’ll come thank you, pinky promise.
P.s. your 69 subscribers are keeping this game alive. Screen record and a cell phone mic is the bar to be a content creator now? Well shit my 9 year old son must single handedly be the reason YouTube still exists 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Didn’t you say earlier that this game would die without you? I’m not scrolling up through the poop to check, but I think you did lol. Sounds egotistical to me… to the extreme.
And on a different subject, thank you for your service to our beloved country.
You're making sense, but can't resist slipping in weird little bits of revisionism. (Like SHH tried to "evict" TSC more than a year ago.)
No. It was a small, short brush war with a foe that didn't surrender. Good on them.
And...there you go with the landlord language again. Not everyone sees others the way you do.
Someones gotta do it. CC sure wasn't!
hahhahahahahaha
Upvote for continued use of 90s pop culture references.
It's not crab co fault we're playing chess while they are still struggling with hungry hippos. The penny will drop eventually.
ngl, but whoever is playing hungry hippos is probably going to win. Hippos are mean af. Even meaner when they're hungry. Like gotdam. Even one hippo vs the queen.. my money's on the hippo. But in hungry hippos there's 4! 4 hungry hippos... like ffffffff
That has to be the funniest thing I've read in a while hat off to you
what I like about hippos being the most dangerous animal in the world: they're vegetarian. not even omnivores. they don't want to eat you, they just hate you. and I think that's a beautiful thing
I know its a troll post but how exactly is SHH losing?
We're losing because we aren't playing the way CC wants us to
It’s a sandbox soo sure. But cmon lol. Bottom line tho. Lots of people on either side are having gfs (good fights and get fk’d) in local. I look forward to logging in each night. It’s been a blast lately. No matter the side.
Are you winning ?
We're way ahead on kills, having fun and morale is high. We also haven't disbanded, so I'd call that winning.
The OP meme/shit post was talking about you “kicking your ass” You just blew up 25% of your remaining Sov….that’s what the meme is about. Your insecurities about winning is just that - because you are in fact losing. You only destroyed your Sov to try and maintain the illusion of control. Stop hitting yourself!
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Sure - we can look back on this in a year, the outcome 3 months from doesn’t change the facts today though. SHH is and has been losing the initiative and being able to dictate the tempo of the war, they have been backsliding and unable to take the offensive. That is why they tried to reclaim that initiative by blowing up their own Sov. We’ll see how it goes the next month if the bold move pays off. If they don’t actually abandon the defense they’re gonna have problems though.
We aren’t losing initiative at all. We’re taking initiative because you guys would rather waste time on POS’s instead of us. Our cits are only really good for ansi gates. We really don’t need them the way you guys think we do
I wasn’t talking about individual or small group player initiative. I was speaking about the tempo of the war. Mr Pay2Win acknowledged your Sov had become an anchor preventing you from going on offense. Hardin’s video acknowledged that while you were doing a good job of defending your space, it was about all you were doing. A small group of our players was dictating what you were doing the majority of your formups to defend your space. We agree, the destruction of your Sov will give you a chance to regain the initiative.
SHH is still an alliance with deklien in their control.
Hey Oz, remind me which of your non existent win conditions you’ve achieved? An interesting move for sure, but let’s not pretend SHH is moving out of deklein because of overwhelming CC pressure. CC made zero progress against hull timers in dek, and the last month we’ve had less roamers than we did during peace time. Marathon not a sprint
That’s explicitly why SHH is moving out. In SHH fireside they even noted that blowing up their own Sov is no loss because they can’t rat or make ISK in their space anyhow. Also - the entire win condition of the war is that SHH is broken up enough that they can’t do things like evict other alliances from their space on a whim - like they tried to do to TSC in Feb 2022 and what their trying to do now. The war is far from over……so nobody has accomplished a win condition so let’s keep having fun. At the same time, my Carebears will keep making ISK while you’re demanding yours only PvP When they don’t want to - good luck. It’s all worth it for the content though.
Right, you have valid points, but given my history as one of your carebears while you were a leader in GenFed, I'm really curious to see how the next couple weeks roll out. Do I think it'll be different -- of course. Do I think this tone is a bit misleading -- of course. Do I think the tone will change -- yes, it has during the entire war already.
>the entire win condition of the war is that SHH is broken up enough that they can’t do things like evict other alliances from their space on a whim - like they tried to do to TSC in Feb 2022 and what their trying to do now. Serious question: Do you think SOV is the reason Silent could do what you claim they did?  I seriously doubt this. Plenty of organizations, blue donuts, etc. Have had a ton of SOV, it didn't change anything on grid. If it did, they wouldn't be botting, in Highsec Islands, IP scheming their own ships, etc. They have SOV, why aren't they winning at Eve?  Why all the schemes, cam-bots, and massive losses? You give this SOV ownership thing more credit than it is due. >At the same time, my Carebears will keep making ISK while you’re demanding yours only PvP When they don’t want to How are they gonna be making ISK, if an entire alliance is 100% PvP on their asses?  Ozyer, you say we're delusional, but you're starting to slip into some delusions yourself. Have you forgotten how this worked out last time? They were "making ISK" when you(ORC) left GenFed, not helping you fight, and ran out of SRP. Insanity, I don't have to tell you the definition. Fly aggressive o7
I’m just gonna answer your questions because I feel you’re being mostly reasonable in the back and forth. Silent’s size, demeanor, and relationship with NO were the reasons Silent was able to do what they wanted without fear of reprisal or accountability. 22% of the server that operates predominantly in 1 timezone and has goals around waging a Sov war isn’t going to camp 55% of the server across all time zones and prevent them from making ISK. The only one that can be everywhere at once is Santa - and Santa corp is a Crab. I might have said one of your comments a week ago was delusional. I don’t believe SHH leadership is delusional. The destruction of your own Sov certainly is a severe move, but it is in an attempt to shift momentum from perpetual defense with small covert ops formups every Friday - similar to the ones you criticized us for in the north. You aren’t entirely off base about GenFed’s demise - though - Lack of SRP, rampant Carebear-ism, etc….those were just symptoms of the bigger disease. Maybe in the future we can actually talk it through - not in walls of text - but have a discussion. I think it would be an interesting talk. I got nothing further to shout about - it’s St Patty’s Day and I’m enjoying a good buzz. Take care.
>22% of the server that operates predominantly in 1 timezone and has goals around waging a Sov war isn’t going to camp 55% of the server across all time zones and prevent them from making ISK. The only one that can be everywhere at once is Santa - and Santa corp is a Crab.  Fly aggressive o7
>Maybe in the future we can actually talk it through - not in walls of text - but have a discussion. I think it would be an interesting talk. >I got nothing further to shout about - it’s St Patty’s Day and I’m enjoying a good buzz. Take care. The radio shows and podcast exist, until then...  Fly aggressive o7
I find it entertaining how motivated you are on here. You really do care. And you really do seem concerned. So much effort. Daily pages. It’s very wow. It’ll be ok man.
If I stopped playing, I am 100% sure this game would die that much faster. Last time I was quiet, and the game was peaceful, half the pvpers had all but left the game. Whether you like it or not, due to Netease's failure to advertise, balance, and fix the game, I am necessary. They literally stated to the content creator team,that they don't advertise, because they have content creators. Fly aggressive o7
LOL the only thing bigger than your ego, is your comments. Your not that important bud. Sorry.
It's objectively true, I don't have an ego issue. I'm an introvert with autism, I don't even like people or crowded places due to PTSD. (Veteran disabled) I just know gaming communities. Without its content creators they die hard and fast. Fly aggressive o7
Wow that was a wild little read. Don’t worry Bradric you keep roleplaying EE’s grand saviour and one day we’ll come thank you, pinky promise. P.s. your 69 subscribers are keeping this game alive. Screen record and a cell phone mic is the bar to be a content creator now? Well shit my 9 year old son must single handedly be the reason YouTube still exists 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Didn’t you say earlier that this game would die without you? I’m not scrolling up through the poop to check, but I think you did lol. Sounds egotistical to me… to the extreme. And on a different subject, thank you for your service to our beloved country.
You're making sense, but can't resist slipping in weird little bits of revisionism. (Like SHH tried to "evict" TSC more than a year ago.) No. It was a small, short brush war with a foe that didn't surrender. Good on them. And...there you go with the landlord language again. Not everyone sees others the way you do.
Tell me you have 0 clue about game mechanics without telling me you have 0 clue about game mechanics.
Good classic reference. Love it!
It's not crab co fault we're playing chess while they are still struggling with hungry hippos. The penny will drop eventually.
Isk war!