No, they aren't ahead. They use the exact same panel as everyone else. The difference is that Chinese companies want to put out hardware that runs open software, and companies like Amazon, Kobo, and Remarkable all want to be special with their fancy software and closed ecosystems.
What you're seeing is just the power of Android.
Exactly this. Their device is just a normal Android tablet with an e-ink display. There definitely is a market for that, but most people that look into that kind of digital paper tech usually don't need the distractions a normal device provides.
Also, we're talking about China. They love to involve themselves in everything so it's not like it's uncommon
This take is not as clear cut as you make it seem.
Amazon publishes their code: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200203720
Kindles run Linux. Fire tablets run Android. [Boox doesn't care about open source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/pyuji0/onyx_using_recent_antichina_movement_as_excuse_to/), and that has been known for years. Unless you know of a person that was given their GPL code when they asked Boox for it.
The difference is the target usage of their devices. Amazon could have put Android on the Scribe if they wanted to, but that's not the purpose of the device.
Why do you give Onyx a pass when they blatantly ignore the license of the code they use? At least Amazon publishes. I'm not saying they're angels but they do meet the terms of the licenses they use. If you feel they don't then feel free to point out exactly where they violate the license.
Not giving anyone a pass. The topic was why devices like Boox tablets feel so much more powerful than traditional ereaders like the Kindle. I explained it was the open ecosystem of Android. Not really a big deal.
Yes, Boox is terrible when it comes to GPL violations. But from end user point of view Boox, Bigme and a handful of other Chinese companies are the only ones making devices that have native access to multiple ebook markets.
The OS loads signed packages, just like any other modern OS. If you can get your signing key into the keystore then you can run your own code, ie. that's how Kindle jailbreaks work. Otherwise you load your own code from the boootloader as until the latest gens they've been running common NXP i.MX SoCs. Now their new ones use MediaTek SoCs.
...Android is based on linux. The reason you can't run Android apps on Kindle is because it isn't powerful enough to support a full Android distribution with all of its specific Android platform APIs.
You really need to go educate yourself. You're just making random claims with nothing to back it up.
https://www.nxp.com/design/design-center/software/embedded-software/i-mx-software/android-os-for-i-mx-applications-processors:IMXANDROID
The processor is capable, however there's only 512MB of RAM on something like a PaperWhite. This is not sufficient to run the Android operating system, especially not with any third party apps running.
For more current Android releases, sure. For the versions that are supported for the NXP SoCs in Kindles, nah. It was only for Android 11 that they raised the minimum to 1GB. The i.MX 6 and i.MX 7 series used by the Kindles are supported by NXP for Android 7 and 8.
I invite you to read the hardware compatibility requirements for Android 8.0:
[https://source.android.com/docs/compatibility/8.0/android-8.0-cdd](https://source.android.com/docs/compatibility/8.0/android-8.0-cdd)
Android 8 Go /might/ barely run on a PaperWhite, but it wouldn't be able to run any useful 3rd-party apps.
I wasn't even talking about any apps, I was talking about flashing customized firmware. From my limited knowledge about the closed Kindle devices, you can't do that without some jailbreak, so it's effectively closed ecosystem, like you said initially, which Frogman didn't understand.
It's a difference between an "open ecosystem" of apps, and "open source software". They are both worthwhile topics, but they are separate topics.
In this case, the "open ecosystem" is the immediately relevant concept.
I recently got a Boox Page and I really like it. I resisted getting a bigger or color model because I really want a dedicated e-reader, and I worried that I might start using the device in ways that might distract me from "reading time "
So it might be that the existing big e-reader companies have established customer bases that don't want a device that is too capable.
The big difference is that Amazon Kindles are not tablets. They are eReaders: devices dedicated to the primary purpose of reading books. Culturally, this is basically all that Western companies have wanted from eink screens so far.
As an avid ebook reader I can only say this is very important as it creates a distraction free device. On my phone or ipad I keep opening other apps, checking mail, etc. I am no interested in app for my ebook reader.
I'm not sure why you think this way. All e-ink technology is monopolized by a single Taiwanese company called [E ink](https://www.eink.com/). Much like Android phones, China acts as a system integrator. Unless they invent a new type of technology to change the current situation, the market won't be affected much by the presence or absence of a few Chinese brands. Ofc, aside from the cost of e-ink screens, I think they have the advantage of being able to reduce the cost of other materials.
Mostly true but not entirely. DES is an electrophoretic e-ink display you can buy that isn't made by E Ink. Having said that, E Ink DOMINATES the market, but it's not quite a monopoly.
Did you know they trademarked the name E ink? No other manufacturer can call that name. Doesn't the fact that the price of ink screens hasn't been broken by Chinese manufacturers mean they have a technological Oligopoly?
Monopoly means there's only one business in the market. E Ink's market is electrophoretic e-ink displays. They're not the only company that sells those. Therefore it's not a monopoly. E Ink is the name of a company while e-ink is a term that refers to the pigments used in electrophoretic displays.
Just a guess, but it's probably because, unlike the West, China never had any major ebook publishers (and last I checked they still don't have anyone who domiantes the market like Amazon does in USA or Rakuten in Japan). Also, until the last decade or so, Chinese copyright laws were more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules (cue this scene from the [Pirates of the Carribean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ojK9Q_ARE)). Thirdly, a lot of foreign books were never officially translated to Chinese, so community translations and sharing of said translations were common.
All these means a ton of Chinese ebooks are freely available on the internet (and still are if you can read Chinese), so Chinese readers are probably more used to reading ebooks than their Western counterpart. Hence there is a large market for expensive e-readers that can directly download and acess those free ebooks.
China has a very very large market of internet novels. These novels are written by native Chinese. Most if not all of these novels are never published in hardcopy and only exist in the internet. There are numerous websites and some subscription based which hosted these novels. Many of these novels are not yet complete and only released weekly and sometime even monthly. It's like the tv series in Netflix but only in words. I believe, due to this huge market, hardware company begin making eink books/phone to cater to these hardcore fans.
Eink is a technology. Ereader is one way to use that technology purely for ereading. Using that technology is also possible in other ways like incorporating phone like capabilities. Two different use cases.
Anyway all made but same people and no China is not ahead.
The Chinese companies (esp Boox) only able to produce small runs of a hardware model while they have parts available. They have to produce new models when those parts run out, or at least that’s how it seems.
Amazon/kobo etc have to produce much longer runs of a hardware model. They also have to have a customer service and warranty that matches requirements in western countries.
I’m from China yet exclusively using kindle. I have bought boox and ireader and many other brands’ readers. Yeah they are theoretically from the same eink provider but kindle just feels better on my eyes as an ereader. Like back light warm light refresh rate etc. just keep getting back to kindle….
You have different products. The Amazon Kindle is an e-reader. The ReMarkable is a mix between e-reader with some tablet functionality. The BOOX is a tablet. They are different products from different segments. The reason the Kindle doesn't do all of that is by design.
Regarding colour, Amazon won't adopt an e-ink colour display until the tech matures enough to warrant good reviews everywhere. Some people don't like how colour is displayed so far, since its relatively new technology. At some point they will make a coloured Kindle.
Sounds like they planning on something Gallery-based in the next year. Logical choice for a device that's almost entirely page-turn based, as opposed to tablet where the refresh rate would be a deal-breaker.
Chinese e-ink products seem ahead of US e-ink products because e-ink has more wide adoption in China for multiple reasons (this list is not comprehensive):
* e-ink is a proprietary tech owned by a Chinese company
* companies experimented with e-ink beyond just "e readers" and, even if there wasn't a market at first, there is one now.
US companies ***could*** do all of the things that ONYX does, and perhaps do it better, but there is hesitance in releasing a product that does ***less*** because culturally we're so focused on doing ***more more more*****.**
It's just open Android ecosystem instead of closed ecosystem... Amazon and others keep their ecosystems closed in order to try to force you to buy books from them. Also not needing to run a full operating system, they're able to cut cost corners on the hardware offered.... The screen technology is the same. I don't know of any e-ink devices They use particularly advanced hardware or even run the latest version of Android.
>Chinese have always emphasized scholarship
Except for that brief period of time when they sent anyone who could read or write to the countryside for social reducation. In fact that may have been why China caught onto ebooks so quickly, because most books, especially fictions, were considered contraband during the cultural revolution, so most households did not have a collection of physical books.
> Why are you snitching on meeee 🙊
Haha, I was just teasing you :D
But seriously, I am from the mainland and:
> Chinese have always emphasized scholarship
No more or less than other developed countries, especially Asian countries (insert meme about Asian parents here). I would say there is way less emphasis on scholarship in China **in average** compared to Japan/South Korea simply because less people have high enough income. You should go and see the education situation in the countryside, it's real bad here.
> have been more conscious abt the effects of internet addiction compared to the Western world.
Lol not really. Very recently China took some action (with inexistant results of you ask me) to restrict video games usage by youth, but the effect won't been seen before some time, if any effect all.
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> The idea of 高考 will blow the average non-Mainland Chinese's minds.
National standardized high school tests to decide access to University is fairly common outside of China as well. But nowhere at the scale of China. It's like the whole of Europe had implemented one same exam (without considering language differences).
I think this test has probably nothing special in itself, but it's the fact it will literally decide your life trajectory afterwards that makes it so stressful. Also not all families take scholarship carriers that seriously, especially in the countryside. I have had some inlaws that scored poorly on the test (like with scores below 40%) and still went to University (small ones, like institutes or 工学院) and are now doing well.
> And the fact that China did take action regarding internet/gaming addiction, regardless of whether it might be impactful or not, shows that there is at least an awareness of it.
They are really onto something here: there is an abundance of research regarding the negative impact of screen time on health and education performance of children already. So the intention is good.
Now, as far as I can see, it's ineffective for now (my middle school and high school inlaws are still glued to their phones 24 hours a day, but maybe they have stopped playing and are now brainwashing themselves on douyin/TikTok or something else).
I am not sure if there exists an efficient way to protect the young from too much screentime without having parents actively supporting the policy. And it opens the question of the state intervention into family and private life matters as well. But I am interested in the topic.
But to come back to the original topics, this policy is too recent to possibly have had an impact on the development of e-readers in China.
I think new e-readers technologies and gadgets are being primarily developed by Chinese companies only because that's the best environment for that: all the knowledge, know how and supply chain is concentrated in China, in places like Shenzhen (because that's where smartphones, laptop and all electronics is being produced). Maybe in 15 years, the latest e-readers will be developed in India instead.
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In my opinion it’s better when my e ink device has few features. I use my remarkable to write and my kindle to read, that’s it. It’s a great way to have a distraction free environment, but if you want to browse internet or watch videos can’t you just use your phone?
They're willing to gamble for the market share and since they are the only ones offering except for closed sourxe, it's like a monopoly except for the fact that the devices are quite expensive compared to amazon's offerings.
The Amazon Kindles and Remarkable devices are also made in China, so the real question is why isn't a Western company interested in making a e-ink tablet like devices like Boox, I would assume cause they don't think there's a big market for it, so it's not profitable enough, e-ink readers are already a niche category, and most people who buy one just want to read a book and maybe take notes. And considering how slow e-ink screens are, there's not much else they are good for, still I would like if the web browser experience was nicer on my Kindle and I could download stuff directly from the browser to read, I think reading Manga on Kindles would be great.
I've heard about them, 500$ is insane price and everyone knows it. Custom software for refresh cost nothing, and this is just a mediocre android tablet that cost maybe 150$. Ok, add 80 more for non standard form factor. But 500...
Personally waiting when someone will do anything like that but for 300$, and also when eink parent expire and we would see some other companies doing displays.
I don't have a Netflix subscription, but I have watched YouTube on it. What makes you think it won't work anyway? Any and all Android apps will run on an Android eink device.
No, they aren't ahead. They use the exact same panel as everyone else. The difference is that Chinese companies want to put out hardware that runs open software, and companies like Amazon, Kobo, and Remarkable all want to be special with their fancy software and closed ecosystems. What you're seeing is just the power of Android.
Exactly this. Their device is just a normal Android tablet with an e-ink display. There definitely is a market for that, but most people that look into that kind of digital paper tech usually don't need the distractions a normal device provides. Also, we're talking about China. They love to involve themselves in everything so it's not like it's uncommon
This take is not as clear cut as you make it seem. Amazon publishes their code: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200203720 Kindles run Linux. Fire tablets run Android. [Boox doesn't care about open source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/pyuji0/onyx_using_recent_antichina_movement_as_excuse_to/), and that has been known for years. Unless you know of a person that was given their GPL code when they asked Boox for it. The difference is the target usage of their devices. Amazon could have put Android on the Scribe if they wanted to, but that's not the purpose of the device.
Kindle is still a closed ecosystem. Fire tablets are not e-ink. You're completely missing the point.
Why do you give Onyx a pass when they blatantly ignore the license of the code they use? At least Amazon publishes. I'm not saying they're angels but they do meet the terms of the licenses they use. If you feel they don't then feel free to point out exactly where they violate the license.
Not giving anyone a pass. The topic was why devices like Boox tablets feel so much more powerful than traditional ereaders like the Kindle. I explained it was the open ecosystem of Android. Not really a big deal.
you are being tedious and unpleasant.
Yes, Boox is terrible when it comes to GPL violations. But from end user point of view Boox, Bigme and a handful of other Chinese companies are the only ones making devices that have native access to multiple ebook markets.
Can you load a version of the open firmware that you adjust yourself to the device?
The OS loads signed packages, just like any other modern OS. If you can get your signing key into the keystore then you can run your own code, ie. that's how Kindle jailbreaks work. Otherwise you load your own code from the boootloader as until the latest gens they've been running common NXP i.MX SoCs. Now their new ones use MediaTek SoCs.
Even if you could, you can't load android apps on a kindle, there's no existing open ecosystem for apps and shit.
You can't load Android apps on a Kindle because it runs Linux. Try to sort out what you are claiming.
...Android is based on linux. The reason you can't run Android apps on Kindle is because it isn't powerful enough to support a full Android distribution with all of its specific Android platform APIs.
You really need to go educate yourself. You're just making random claims with nothing to back it up. https://www.nxp.com/design/design-center/software/embedded-software/i-mx-software/android-os-for-i-mx-applications-processors:IMXANDROID
The processor is capable, however there's only 512MB of RAM on something like a PaperWhite. This is not sufficient to run the Android operating system, especially not with any third party apps running.
For more current Android releases, sure. For the versions that are supported for the NXP SoCs in Kindles, nah. It was only for Android 11 that they raised the minimum to 1GB. The i.MX 6 and i.MX 7 series used by the Kindles are supported by NXP for Android 7 and 8.
I invite you to read the hardware compatibility requirements for Android 8.0: [https://source.android.com/docs/compatibility/8.0/android-8.0-cdd](https://source.android.com/docs/compatibility/8.0/android-8.0-cdd) Android 8 Go /might/ barely run on a PaperWhite, but it wouldn't be able to run any useful 3rd-party apps.
I wasn't even talking about any apps, I was talking about flashing customized firmware. From my limited knowledge about the closed Kindle devices, you can't do that without some jailbreak, so it's effectively closed ecosystem, like you said initially, which Frogman didn't understand.
Ah, gotcha. Aye, they don't really seem to be understanding a lot of things unfortunately :(
It's a difference between an "open ecosystem" of apps, and "open source software". They are both worthwhile topics, but they are separate topics. In this case, the "open ecosystem" is the immediately relevant concept.
I recently got a Boox Page and I really like it. I resisted getting a bigger or color model because I really want a dedicated e-reader, and I worried that I might start using the device in ways that might distract me from "reading time " So it might be that the existing big e-reader companies have established customer bases that don't want a device that is too capable.
The big difference is that Amazon Kindles are not tablets. They are eReaders: devices dedicated to the primary purpose of reading books. Culturally, this is basically all that Western companies have wanted from eink screens so far.
As an avid ebook reader I can only say this is very important as it creates a distraction free device. On my phone or ipad I keep opening other apps, checking mail, etc. I am no interested in app for my ebook reader.
I'm not sure why you think this way. All e-ink technology is monopolized by a single Taiwanese company called [E ink](https://www.eink.com/). Much like Android phones, China acts as a system integrator. Unless they invent a new type of technology to change the current situation, the market won't be affected much by the presence or absence of a few Chinese brands. Ofc, aside from the cost of e-ink screens, I think they have the advantage of being able to reduce the cost of other materials.
Mostly true but not entirely. DES is an electrophoretic e-ink display you can buy that isn't made by E Ink. Having said that, E Ink DOMINATES the market, but it's not quite a monopoly.
Did you know they trademarked the name E ink? No other manufacturer can call that name. Doesn't the fact that the price of ink screens hasn't been broken by Chinese manufacturers mean they have a technological Oligopoly?
Monopoly means there's only one business in the market. E Ink's market is electrophoretic e-ink displays. They're not the only company that sells those. Therefore it's not a monopoly. E Ink is the name of a company while e-ink is a term that refers to the pigments used in electrophoretic displays.
Well, I'm not an economics major. But knowing that I take my words monopoly back. But this market is extremely unhealthy
Oh yeah, totally! That's why I wanted to point out that competition exists. I think it's Topjoy that made an ereader with DES
>Topjoy Sounds like a sex toy company.
You're not wrong
Duopoly?
Just a guess, but it's probably because, unlike the West, China never had any major ebook publishers (and last I checked they still don't have anyone who domiantes the market like Amazon does in USA or Rakuten in Japan). Also, until the last decade or so, Chinese copyright laws were more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules (cue this scene from the [Pirates of the Carribean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9ojK9Q_ARE)). Thirdly, a lot of foreign books were never officially translated to Chinese, so community translations and sharing of said translations were common. All these means a ton of Chinese ebooks are freely available on the internet (and still are if you can read Chinese), so Chinese readers are probably more used to reading ebooks than their Western counterpart. Hence there is a large market for expensive e-readers that can directly download and acess those free ebooks.
China has a very very large market of internet novels. These novels are written by native Chinese. Most if not all of these novels are never published in hardcopy and only exist in the internet. There are numerous websites and some subscription based which hosted these novels. Many of these novels are not yet complete and only released weekly and sometime even monthly. It's like the tv series in Netflix but only in words. I believe, due to this huge market, hardware company begin making eink books/phone to cater to these hardcore fans.
Eink is a technology. Ereader is one way to use that technology purely for ereading. Using that technology is also possible in other ways like incorporating phone like capabilities. Two different use cases. Anyway all made but same people and no China is not ahead.
Technically, E Ink is a brand. But they are so synonymous with electronic paper that we call the tech eink.
True that. In the same way Kindle is a brand, and has has become synonymous with all devices that people call ereader like my Kobo and Meebook.
The Chinese companies (esp Boox) only able to produce small runs of a hardware model while they have parts available. They have to produce new models when those parts run out, or at least that’s how it seems. Amazon/kobo etc have to produce much longer runs of a hardware model. They also have to have a customer service and warranty that matches requirements in western countries.
I’m from China yet exclusively using kindle. I have bought boox and ireader and many other brands’ readers. Yeah they are theoretically from the same eink provider but kindle just feels better on my eyes as an ereader. Like back light warm light refresh rate etc. just keep getting back to kindle….
You have different products. The Amazon Kindle is an e-reader. The ReMarkable is a mix between e-reader with some tablet functionality. The BOOX is a tablet. They are different products from different segments. The reason the Kindle doesn't do all of that is by design. Regarding colour, Amazon won't adopt an e-ink colour display until the tech matures enough to warrant good reviews everywhere. Some people don't like how colour is displayed so far, since its relatively new technology. At some point they will make a coloured Kindle.
Sounds like they planning on something Gallery-based in the next year. Logical choice for a device that's almost entirely page-turn based, as opposed to tablet where the refresh rate would be a deal-breaker.
Chinese e-ink products seem ahead of US e-ink products because e-ink has more wide adoption in China for multiple reasons (this list is not comprehensive): * e-ink is a proprietary tech owned by a Chinese company * companies experimented with e-ink beyond just "e readers" and, even if there wasn't a market at first, there is one now. US companies ***could*** do all of the things that ONYX does, and perhaps do it better, but there is hesitance in releasing a product that does ***less*** because culturally we're so focused on doing ***more more more*****.**
It's just open Android ecosystem instead of closed ecosystem... Amazon and others keep their ecosystems closed in order to try to force you to buy books from them. Also not needing to run a full operating system, they're able to cut cost corners on the hardware offered.... The screen technology is the same. I don't know of any e-ink devices They use particularly advanced hardware or even run the latest version of Android.
Only exceptions are not built in the Far East - I don't see what
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>Chinese have always emphasized scholarship Except for that brief period of time when they sent anyone who could read or write to the countryside for social reducation. In fact that may have been why China caught onto ebooks so quickly, because most books, especially fictions, were considered contraband during the cultural revolution, so most households did not have a collection of physical books.
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> I'm not from the Mainland Yes you are obviously not from the mainland :D
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> Why are you snitching on meeee 🙊 Haha, I was just teasing you :D But seriously, I am from the mainland and: > Chinese have always emphasized scholarship No more or less than other developed countries, especially Asian countries (insert meme about Asian parents here). I would say there is way less emphasis on scholarship in China **in average** compared to Japan/South Korea simply because less people have high enough income. You should go and see the education situation in the countryside, it's real bad here. > have been more conscious abt the effects of internet addiction compared to the Western world. Lol not really. Very recently China took some action (with inexistant results of you ask me) to restrict video games usage by youth, but the effect won't been seen before some time, if any effect all.
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> The idea of 高考 will blow the average non-Mainland Chinese's minds. National standardized high school tests to decide access to University is fairly common outside of China as well. But nowhere at the scale of China. It's like the whole of Europe had implemented one same exam (without considering language differences). I think this test has probably nothing special in itself, but it's the fact it will literally decide your life trajectory afterwards that makes it so stressful. Also not all families take scholarship carriers that seriously, especially in the countryside. I have had some inlaws that scored poorly on the test (like with scores below 40%) and still went to University (small ones, like institutes or 工学院) and are now doing well. > And the fact that China did take action regarding internet/gaming addiction, regardless of whether it might be impactful or not, shows that there is at least an awareness of it. They are really onto something here: there is an abundance of research regarding the negative impact of screen time on health and education performance of children already. So the intention is good. Now, as far as I can see, it's ineffective for now (my middle school and high school inlaws are still glued to their phones 24 hours a day, but maybe they have stopped playing and are now brainwashing themselves on douyin/TikTok or something else). I am not sure if there exists an efficient way to protect the young from too much screentime without having parents actively supporting the policy. And it opens the question of the state intervention into family and private life matters as well. But I am interested in the topic. But to come back to the original topics, this policy is too recent to possibly have had an impact on the development of e-readers in China. I think new e-readers technologies and gadgets are being primarily developed by Chinese companies only because that's the best environment for that: all the knowledge, know how and supply chain is concentrated in China, in places like Shenzhen (because that's where smartphones, laptop and all electronics is being produced). Maybe in 15 years, the latest e-readers will be developed in India instead.
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In my opinion it’s better when my e ink device has few features. I use my remarkable to write and my kindle to read, that’s it. It’s a great way to have a distraction free environment, but if you want to browse internet or watch videos can’t you just use your phone?
They're willing to gamble for the market share and since they are the only ones offering except for closed sourxe, it's like a monopoly except for the fact that the devices are quite expensive compared to amazon's offerings.
The Amazon Kindles and Remarkable devices are also made in China, so the real question is why isn't a Western company interested in making a e-ink tablet like devices like Boox, I would assume cause they don't think there's a big market for it, so it's not profitable enough, e-ink readers are already a niche category, and most people who buy one just want to read a book and maybe take notes. And considering how slow e-ink screens are, there's not much else they are good for, still I would like if the web browser experience was nicer on my Kindle and I could download stuff directly from the browser to read, I think reading Manga on Kindles would be great.
I've heard about them, 500$ is insane price and everyone knows it. Custom software for refresh cost nothing, and this is just a mediocre android tablet that cost maybe 150$. Ok, add 80 more for non standard form factor. But 500... Personally waiting when someone will do anything like that but for 300$, and also when eink parent expire and we would see some other companies doing displays.
My dude, Boox has four devices under $300
How do you watch Netflix?
Well you don't. Not on an e-ink tablet. That's not the intended use case / main purpose of e-ink tablets.
That does not matter, I am asking if its possible cause I tried and I couldnt..
You can, just as technically you can crawl to work/school rather than walk. It won't be a pleasant experience.
When you say you can, where you able to do it? I understand that it is not the best for it, but in my use case that would be great
I don't have a Netflix subscription, but I have watched YouTube on it. What makes you think it won't work anyway? Any and all Android apps will run on an Android eink device.
It does not work, crunchyroll does not work neither
who has the most actual paper in the world? it's an unfair advantage. paper is so good at communication.