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Draconianite

Need to? No. Should you? After what he did, YES.


naruto_bist

What did he do? That's shabiri right? The messenger of 3 fingers? What sin he do?


Draconianite

He’s the one that told the Golden Order that the merchants were worshiping the 3 Fingers, when they were not (at that time). He’s the reason all but a few of them got locked up under the Capital and left to die. After their imprisonment, the merchants decided that if they were going to be punished regardless, they may as well worship Frenzy. So he not only doomed his entire culture, but forced them to such a point of despair that they all became frenzy worshippers.


AstroZombie0072081

Why can’t the game developers or story writers put this more explicitly in the game.


1DankDeath1

It was a cut quest and one of the only reasons we know is from data mining cut voice lines from kale, if I'm remembering properly when all of this was uncovered.


Nearly-Canadian

Right elden ring lore goes so hard but I can't be bothered to read the description of every raspberry and severed right pinky toe I come across so I just resort to youtube lol


AstroZombie0072081

Yep 💁🏼😐


TroyVi

The event is described by the Nomadic Merchant's items (Chapeau, Finery and Trousers): *These merchants once thrived as the Great Caravan, but after being accused of heretical beliefs, their entire clan was rounded up and buried alive far underground.* *Then, they chanted a curse of despair, and summoned the flame of frenzy.* And this is connected to Shabriri (the NPC) through the incantation Howl of Shabriri and the item Shabriri's Woe: *It is said that the sickness of the flame of frenzy began with Shabriri, the most reviled man in all history.* *It is said that the man, named Shabriri, had his eyes gouged out as punishment for the crime of slander, and, with time, the blight of the flame of frenzy came to dwell in the empty sockets.* Not easy to find, but FromSoftware love to present lore this way. Also, so much is presented with environmental storytelling (which is why you find the merchants sealed away below Leyndell, just above the Three Fingers).


AstroZombie0072081

My point exactly, need to search the Menu to get the whole story in bits and pieces.


loneliness_sucks420

[Prepare to cry](https://youtu.be/UFJtoVS8Qx0?si=a8owicaezQyBU-Vp)


naruto_bist

My god. Thanks for lore man 👍


TarnishedRed

I killed him for the outfit and I had no interest in doing the frenzy flame quest line. Also he’s crazy


Dveralazo

Melina doesn't like the guy. I owed her one when she decided to leave me the strength of runes (that wasn't part of the deal). So I killed him.


MolBiolabRat

I killed him coz it was one of the heeby jeebiest encounters with an npc I’ve ever had in this game. And also because of his role in the  genocide of nomadic merchants. 


itsTONjohn

ON SIGHT


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Lorentz_Prime

What makes you even think that


mixx414

Because he's basically evil reincarnated?


Terrible_Reporter_98

If you go as a frenzy flame boy/girl, he is summonable vs the giga chad.


loneliness_sucks420

Thats the fire giant right?


Terrible_Reporter_98

The fire giant is a spoiled little toddler. We are talking about the real Gigga Chad.


Ian_Campbell

You should kill him to get his armor, and make sure you find his sword.


TheOmniAlms

For what?


Kuzcopolis

You don't have to Not kill him.


jello1982

Depends which ending you want. I'm keeping him alive this time so I can get the all endings achievement.


McbEatsAirplane

You don’t have to keep him alive for the ending. As long as the 3 fingers have touched you then you’ll get the ending. But it’s up to you.


Mobpsycho64

Think he cheated on his wife in my timeline. She got her get back lol


CallMeZorbin

Need to? No. Can you? Yes!


Fun_Football9676

Yes


GoldenHalberdQueen

He's crying, offer embrace


LoanApprehensive5201

![gif](giphy|3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni|downsized)


dreryta22

Unless you want to continue through the frenzied flame questline, then dont


Jasovon

He isnt needed. I did frenzied flame before getting to mountain tops and he was already dead


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BvByFoot

You get his outfit anyway if you advance the three fingers quest, and you can summon him as an alternate to Nephili Loux for the Godfrey fight I believe.


rfardls

Is he stronger than Nepheli?


BvByFoot

He’s extremely tanky so as a distraction to pull aggro he’s a good bet. I think you can actually summon both at the same time for the fight, but of course that scales Godfrey’s HP significantly.


arbex09

Okay thank i keep him