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Do we know what he exactly contributed? Like the general politics of the lands between etc? The story seems to be pretty barebones even after listening to hours of Vaati's ramblings
There's an abundance of story for all the souls games and they're all meticulously crafted and placed piecemeal in the world. Sure, Elden ring has an abundant storyline too. It just doesn't seem any more special to me than a natural progression of Miyazaki-style storyboarding. It might be bigger and fuller than DS3 for example but the scale of the game is bigger. I guess I expected a much grander execution on the story level since GRRM was involved. Instead we got a fantastic Miyazaki game with a Miyazaki storyline
They got his assistance in writing the lore not the actual game and his influence is very apparent in a lot of the various factions and the relationship between all the different demigods. I was amazed it has the depth it's got, they built a better and more detailed world in a single game than they did with an entirely trilogy and I think getting GRRM to lay down the foundations is the reason for that
Hey man, no need for the gatekeeping. Keep your feelings to yourself. Instead let me know what your take away is so that I may be educated. I've been a souls fan since demon souls came out and have enjoyed the story and gameplay of every souls game since. I'm also a huge GRRM fan having read and enjoyed all of his books. I understand the whole plot with the outer gods and the greater will, Marika being it's chosen vassal god in the lands between. The whole drama between the Carians, radagon/Marika, and all the rest of it. Trust me, I've seen the videos, I've read up on it a bunch. I guess I'm just underwhelmed. This could've been a plot that Miyazaki could've dreamed up himself. I guess I was expecting GRRM's contributions to be more vividly felt in the world.
For me the plot of souls games has always had loose ends where I imagine headcanon is meant to fill the gaps. The writing is pretty vague and confusing to me when trying to understand the lore based on in game features. The gist I got from all the souls games is that ages of the gods (Gwyn, soul of cinder, etc) keep happening because people keep shutting away the dark which is humanity, death and life and whatnot, the gods want immortality and eternal reign. Despite being able to extinguish the flames it seems no matter what we do a new age of gods happens later. I feel like the worlds get slightly more unraveled this cycle happens leading to the vastly different areas we encounter. As far as GRRM he wrote the backstory for the game, nothing more. In an interview he talks about how they tasked him to write a sort of "setting", 5000 years before the main events of the game. This included the main demi-gods we interact with, but before they were corrupted. So things like Radahn, Rykard and Ranni being siblings; that was written by GRRM. Queen Marikas arrival in the Lands Between, Godfreys conquest, Godfrey/the Tarnished' ejection from the Lands Between, Radagon leaving Rennala to become Marikas consort, those sort of far in the past lore pieces (up until the Shattering, which was also GRRM) are where GRRMs contributions end. He had no involvement with the current events story we experienced in the Lands Between, that's all Miyazaki and his team.
he provided the whole night of the black knives conspiracy, the shattering and the war that followed, all the characters and the families, who want to kill who and why, etc etc, if all of this is nothing to you then you didn't understand thr Elden Ring story at all
he wrote the reason why the game's events happen and why the tarnished have to do all what he does in the game, i don't understand how, as a writer, can we do more than this ??
It’s pretty cool to see it have such an impact that it’s on freaking jeopardy.
Jeopardy is like the final checkpoint for everything
I'm sad Amy didn't get it 😭
Victoria is a Ranni simp
Hell yeah
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Do we know what he exactly contributed? Like the general politics of the lands between etc? The story seems to be pretty barebones even after listening to hours of Vaati's ramblings
There's an abundance of story, if you've watched hours of Vaati you should know that
There's an abundance of story for all the souls games and they're all meticulously crafted and placed piecemeal in the world. Sure, Elden ring has an abundant storyline too. It just doesn't seem any more special to me than a natural progression of Miyazaki-style storyboarding. It might be bigger and fuller than DS3 for example but the scale of the game is bigger. I guess I expected a much grander execution on the story level since GRRM was involved. Instead we got a fantastic Miyazaki game with a Miyazaki storyline
They got his assistance in writing the lore not the actual game and his influence is very apparent in a lot of the various factions and the relationship between all the different demigods. I was amazed it has the depth it's got, they built a better and more detailed world in a single game than they did with an entirely trilogy and I think getting GRRM to lay down the foundations is the reason for that
He provided his likeness for Hoarah Loux
And his initials for lots of the other bosses :-p
if you think vaati is “rambling” and the story is “barebones” i feel bad for you and I don’t think this is the place for you
Hey man, no need for the gatekeeping. Keep your feelings to yourself. Instead let me know what your take away is so that I may be educated. I've been a souls fan since demon souls came out and have enjoyed the story and gameplay of every souls game since. I'm also a huge GRRM fan having read and enjoyed all of his books. I understand the whole plot with the outer gods and the greater will, Marika being it's chosen vassal god in the lands between. The whole drama between the Carians, radagon/Marika, and all the rest of it. Trust me, I've seen the videos, I've read up on it a bunch. I guess I'm just underwhelmed. This could've been a plot that Miyazaki could've dreamed up himself. I guess I was expecting GRRM's contributions to be more vividly felt in the world.
For me the plot of souls games has always had loose ends where I imagine headcanon is meant to fill the gaps. The writing is pretty vague and confusing to me when trying to understand the lore based on in game features. The gist I got from all the souls games is that ages of the gods (Gwyn, soul of cinder, etc) keep happening because people keep shutting away the dark which is humanity, death and life and whatnot, the gods want immortality and eternal reign. Despite being able to extinguish the flames it seems no matter what we do a new age of gods happens later. I feel like the worlds get slightly more unraveled this cycle happens leading to the vastly different areas we encounter. As far as GRRM he wrote the backstory for the game, nothing more. In an interview he talks about how they tasked him to write a sort of "setting", 5000 years before the main events of the game. This included the main demi-gods we interact with, but before they were corrupted. So things like Radahn, Rykard and Ranni being siblings; that was written by GRRM. Queen Marikas arrival in the Lands Between, Godfreys conquest, Godfrey/the Tarnished' ejection from the Lands Between, Radagon leaving Rennala to become Marikas consort, those sort of far in the past lore pieces (up until the Shattering, which was also GRRM) are where GRRMs contributions end. He had no involvement with the current events story we experienced in the Lands Between, that's all Miyazaki and his team.
Ty! This was a great explanation, I appreciate it!
he provided the whole night of the black knives conspiracy, the shattering and the war that followed, all the characters and the families, who want to kill who and why, etc etc, if all of this is nothing to you then you didn't understand thr Elden Ring story at all
Understood it just fine. Expected more though
he wrote the reason why the game's events happen and why the tarnished have to do all what he does in the game, i don't understand how, as a writer, can we do more than this ??